Pattaya Reports

[Rob Jones]

Hey,

Don't apologize for being long winded. If anything thanks for such great reports. I thought I could bring it pretty well for 55 but at 57 you are putting me to shame! I am going to have to up my game!

Thanks Steve.

Towards the end I was blowing dust but with the help of vitamin V and knowing after only 5 days of surviving on minimum sleep I can rest at home. The saving grace is that my wife started her period the day before I got home so I get some respite. LOL.

One thing I forgot in the report was the twins that me and Lew Ashby scored from TF! I made original contact with one for a dinner date and sex he was at loose ends and I noticed a girl with her in her Line timeline and asked if she could her friend for my friend? Her friend turned out to be her 1 minute younger twin.

Rob.

[Nounce]

But, be warned, my fellow punters in Pattaya and Bangkok, there are forces at work trying to move the system into that horrid "pay upfront" model for go-go bars as well as other types of venues rather than put any effort into explaining, training and assuring the girls that they will rarely get a disgruntled customer refusing to pay an agreed upon rate after the deed is done IF they would just do their job better in the first place.

Baccara in Pattaya is already doing that. I was asked to pay first last time I BF from Baccara in Bangkok.

[Jrealyo]

Do you mind sharing the info on the Kenyan tall lady?

Nope not her.

[Rick Rock]

I would like to know about the LT and ST price at Gogo Bar and Beer Bar in Pattaya as I am the newbie here.

I see many website such as Thailand Red Cats says the LT price for the girls is around 2000-3500 B. Is it that right?

It depends on you, the girl, and the bar. There's a lot of variation. For example you can find a girl in a bar like Heaven Above who might do a short time in the hotel right next door for 1000 Baht. Or you might walk over to a bar like Palace where one of the so called "models" on stage will ask for a 3000 Baht barfine and another 3000 for herself for the same kind of activity! At the same time there are girls working in some of these expensive go go bars that will go bang a guy after work for as little as 500 Baht or even for free, believe it or not.

A lot new guys with little experience seem to get hit with the highest quotes, and from what I've seen they usually pay them too. That's what those cards with "5000 Baht" or whatever written on them that some of the aggressive mamasans carry around are for.

[Crocodilexp]

taking chicks back, then springing the "now fuck my friend too" on them gives you a bad reputation.

Why not? They made a proposal, she agreed, they paid her a fair rate. Don't forget, these girls are hookers and 2 paying clients are better than one paying client. Most are on their cock #2000, not #10. Sure, this might break our white boy fantasy, but it's perfectly fine.

I actually have a regular on Beach Road who prefers Indian clients, precisely because she can do 5 guys in a row for 5 x the money, they tend to have modest-size dicks and are not too demanding sexually compared to Farang.

We're talking hookers here, not charming the pants off a naive village girl looking for marriage.

[Mr Enternational]

When I tell you that I love this place with all my heart. Met a chick on WeChat last year. But she would never meet in person. She always had excuses and most of the time would not answer my messages. She lived in Soi Buakhao so I was beginning to think maybe she was a ladyboy and did not want to be exposed. I finally deleted her from my Line.

Last week I was using Tinder and ran across the same chick. She asked for 2000 LT but I told her 1200, which she quickly accepted. She came over and I asked her why she was bullshitting me on WeChat. She said something about she is leary of meeting guys that live here because many may just want a girlfriend and not a woman to pay. And she is in it for the pay.

We had a great time and she didn't want to leave. I dropped her home and she was blowing me up that night trying to come back.

Now she just hits me up saying how horny she is. I wanted to blow her off so I told her that I didn't have any money and was she still horny. She said yes and agreed to 500 LT tonight. I love this fucking place.

[As Faq]

Is it the girl in the picture?

Nope not her.

[As Faq]

Sorry, but this is an exact example of why a lot of Thai chicks don't like Indian guys. I know you guys did give these Kenyan chicks extra money in the end though. But taking chicks back, then springing the "now fuck my friend too" on them gives you a bad reputation. Thousands of chicks in Pattaya, why do you have to fuck the same chick your friend brings for himself?

Because the shorter sister was asleep the whole time and gave just one fuck for the full LT? Because in all fairness then we should have paid the shorter sister only for ST?

If you mean that every time 2 Indian guys bring 2 girls back for LT, one is asleep the whole time, so the guys try to get return on investment from the single girl actually working- and this is exactly why Thai girls don't like Indian guys, then on behalf of such Indians let me tell you we're fine, thank you.

On all occasions otherwise where we brought two girls, we have private one on ones and no designs of anything else. I think you're being quick to pull on the judgment here.

[EihTooms]

Generally confused by this thread. Is this "pay first" a Pattaya thing or with a certain dollar value girls? When I've done takeout from the gogos in Bangkok or Phuket you pay the barfine with your drinks but Never pay the girl till afterward. In what situation is it OK / required to pay up front?

You have indeed read posters here and you will occasionally read in the Bangkok thread that a punter "unwisely paid the mamasan the full amount in advance" in reference to Pattaya and/or Bangkok go-go bars. Speaking mostly for Bangkok since I rarely partake of Pattaya go-go bars anymore, I don't know of any Bangkok go-go bars where the so-called "official" method is to pay the mamasan the full amount agreed upon by the girl upfront instead of paying the girl directly afterwards. But it is definitely tried many, many times in the go-go bars here in Bangkok these days. It is up to the girl and the mamasan if they want to try to pull that little trick.

And it isn't just with newbies. In some cases, the mamasan will even have a handwritten post card size note with "ST = 3000, LT = 5000" prices written on it and then she'll stick out her palm as though everyone does it this way. LOL. You can assume at least 500 baht of that if not 1,000 baht of it will stay in that mamasan's pocket and the remainder going to the girl at some point. The girl might or might not be a pro-active participant in this little scam. It could be that she just doesn't want to rock the boat by cutting the mamasan out of the rewards for trying it. But if you politely refuse to be scammed this way, your girl will generally not fight on the mamasan's behalf. She'll just go with your decision. Generally. If my chosen girl ever did fight on the mamasan's behalf for such a thing, I would bail out of that deal asap. And probably out of that bar.

I just look at the paper or hear their little pitch about paying all of it "upfront", smile, shake my head no and then take that as my cue to wave off the mamasan, talk discretely with the girl about the money, how much I will pay her and for what, all subjects we might not have talked about at all had it not been for the mamasan interjecting her outstretched palm and that silly rate card. And I have never agreed to the amounts listed or mentioned by a mamasan just because she said so or because it was handwritten on a piece of paper.

To try to put a more benign face on this issue, perhaps some go-go bar mamasans do this at the girl's request because the girl just doesn't have the confidence or language skills to "negotiate" or merely ask for a certain amount of money for her time, it goes unsaid upfront or any other time and she has wound up getting 500 baht or some such nonsense from a few customers even after giving it her best. That is possible in some cases I suppose.

But, be warned, my fellow punters in Pattaya and Bangkok, there are forces at work trying to move the system into that horrid "pay upfront" model for go-go bars as well as other types of venues rather than put any effort into explaining, training and assuring the girls that they will rarely get a disgruntled customer refusing to pay an agreed upon rate after the deed is done IF they would just do their job better in the first place.

[Mr Enternational]

Went out after that for another smoke to find my friend having a beer, his lady asleep still. I described my experiences to him, so when he said he wanted to have a go with my lady I understood. I went back to my room and asked her plainly if she was okay if my friend joined her for a bit. She was clearly tired but bless her, she agreed. So while my friend had his go I went to his room and checked up on the shorter sister. Tried to wake her up, but no cigar.

Sorry, but this is an exact example of why a lot of Thai chicks don't like Indian guys. I know you guys did give these Kenyan chicks extra money in the end though. But taking chicks back, then springing the "now fuck my friend too" on them gives you a bad reputation. Thousands of chicks in Pattaya, why do you have to fuck the same chick your friend brings for himself?

[Mr Enternational]

A lady on ThaiFriendly intrigued me quite a bit, as her photo indicated she was African and not Thai. She replied with her Line ID, and on Line she confirmed she was Kenyan. Her photos on Line looked quite good, so I called her to the hotel for ST, 1200 Baht.

Is it the girl in the picture?

Lots of discos obviously targeting just Indians. An annoying byproduct of this- random Indian guys looking to get you into these clubs feel no compunction in physically stopping and trying to pull you into the clubs if you're Indian. They'll start speaking in Hindi, put their arms around you, and if you're from Delhi / Gurgaon etc. They seem to find nothing wrong in doing this. Obviously, you won't find them doing this to non-Indians,.

I am American and they do me the same way. Not really annoying to me because I am usually going there anyway. And I always bring ear plugs to the discos.

[Aviator12]

Generally confused by this thread. Is this "pay first" a Pattaya thing or with a certain dollar value girls? When I've done takeout from the gogos in Bangkok or Phuket you pay the barfine with your drinks but Never pay the girl till afterward. In what situation is it OK / required to pay up front?

It seems you might misunderstood; Mr. E is refering to AC. That is Angeles City in the Philippines. So it is a different country with a different system of payment. The most important difference beeing that the girls fee is included in the "barfine" in AC. The problem in AC is actually to get the girls to leave! Most of them are desperately looking for a guy for boyfriend / sponsor. Very different from the Thai girls who are more "business oriented" in my experience. Runners are everywhere; it is part of the monger experience and can have many reasons. In Pattaya one girl dissappeared after I had barfined her and on the way to hotel after she reveived a call. Maybe from a regular or a boyfriend. Some others tell you they need to go pick up something from their apartment and will come back. They never do. Some time the chemistry is just not there or the girl do not like you, so she will make up excuses to leave. Popular girls can pick and choose so they will find ways to escape if they want to. If it is really bad you should report it to the mamasan, but do not expect something will be done about it. General rule in Thailand; never pay upfront. It is understood by most.

[Macho Dik]

Dear All,

As I writing this message, I am start packing my luggage and concluded this short 3 nights in Pattaya.

Yesterday after visiting Soi 6 for my nice pop with a stunner, then in the evening I Bar hoping Crazy house & light house. Kind of fun And less girl than happy agogo and others Bar. But fine!

I spotted a cutie at light house and when she went dancing other customers immediately ask for her! Sh*t but when I keep sipping my beer, I saw that customer keep buying drinks for her, I counted about at least 6 LD! After I feel no chance for me to stay, I pay my bill and I spotted the customer pay the bill too but it seems he did not BF her? Anyway, left light house almost 00:30 pm, I proceed to Insonmia to find some girls there, encounter a cute face skinny girl name Am, as I was tired and wish to go back hotel so I skipped my initial plan to back Light house for that girl if I can BF her. A mistakes as this girl I met in Insonmia have a silicon boobs, I already feel it when we on our way to take baht bus taxi. Anyway, I still honoured what we agreed and do our deeds. Other than silicon boobs generally speaking she is ok, nice, attentive And give a long deep BBBJ, since she do yoga when I fuck her she can widely spread her two legs which really get me too crazy as I can penetrate her without any obstructions. And she like it too. She came so much even during when I licking her pussy. We do again one time this morning before I send her away.

Well this concluded my short three nights in Pattaya. Kind of shame, total pop: 6 , total girl encountered: 4. By the way in BKK for 2 nights, total pop: 4, total girl: 2 .

Cheers,

MD.

[Steve 9696]

I posted last week in the AC thread that when I was there I was going to take a chick. She was all happy. I told her to go tell the mamasan that I will send the money with her the next day. The girl said you can't do that. I said bullshit; go tell her. Mamasan came back over and said of course and confirmed the amount ($47). Then they started speaking in Tagalog. The mamasan then asked me short time or long time (there it is the same price for both). I said why long time of course. The girl then refused to come. If I had paid first she was going to do a runner and I could not have done anything about it.

Generally confused by this thread. Is this "pay first" a Pattaya thing or with a certain dollar value girls? When I've done takeout from the gogos in Bangkok or Phuket you pay the barfine with your drinks but Never pay the girl till afterward. In what situation is it OK / required to pay up front?

[Mr Enternational]

It happened again from a What's Up girl in Pattaya, where I had unwisely paid the mamasan the full amount in advance, thus losing any and all bargaining power (sorry Mr. E. bad thing to do).

I posted last week in the AC thread that when I was there I was going to take a chick. She was all happy. I told her to go tell the mamasan that I will send the money with her the next day. The girl said you can't do that. I said bullshit; go tell her. Mamasan came back over and said of course and confirmed the amount ($47). Then they started speaking in Tagalog. The mamasan then asked me short time or long time (there it is the same price for both). I said why long time of course. The girl then refused to come. If I had paid first she was going to do a runner and I could not have done anything about it.