Pattaya Reports

[MrManGuy]

I know girls right now struggling to make even 200 baht per day during low season. Only a very small percentage of girls are able to pull in the 5000 LT Japanese customers on a nightly basis.

Very true but they forget not all falang are poor. If they treated falang costumers better they would get more barfines. All I see night after night is a bunch of Japanese men hogging all the girls.

[ParkVille]

Thailand's GFE advantage is fairly close to slipping away. Just about 5-10 years ago, every second hooker was sweet (and cheap! These days, it's every 10th, and given the prices, those odds are no longer fun unless you're truly desperate for that Thai GFE hooker experience which was more or less the norm before.

Well put, it's like every 10 nth or 20 nth depending on how picky you are. I felt like a junky on my last visit to Pattaya, just walking the hot and polluted streets, looking for my fix but unable to find a hooker that suites my fancy in the daytime (too many old and fat woman, let's be honest here). Yeah sometimes it's great, you don't have to look far. But sometimes, it's dry there and that doesn't help if one is thirsty.

[Womaniszer]

Statistics are almost useless. Just sum totals. Would include family in isaan with buffalo and metropolitan girl in Bangkok. You want to live USA quality off life then Thailand is more expensive.

I 100% agree with you. Things have changed in these 10 years. Thailand is been expensive in Food but still accomodation is cheap. The attitude of girls has changed a lot. All have become money minded. Well A change is always seen in whole world with the time.

I been visiting Thailand from a long time. I speak Thai even but things are still hard for me sometimes.

So I just skipped my holidays from 4 Times in Thailand to 1 time in a year.

I have started new destination which is Jakarta.

Girls still don't know how to drag money from customers. The cost of food, accommodation & girls is cheap.

People respect here a lot.

[Kerrstar]

I know girls right now struggling to make even 200 baht per day during low season. Only a very small percentage of girls are able to pull in the 5000 LT Japanese customers on a nightly basis.

I think what people forget is that whilst some girls might have some good patches where they have customers paying a lot, during the low season or when there is a coup / other political problem and there are no punters around the girls make almost no money. They don't have steady income.

If you go back 20 years, for us old enough to have been going to Thailand back then, I think a lot of the girls who were out on weekends were regular girls who were supplementing their income. Back then a 25 year old With a degree working in a bank would have made an ok salary but not enough to splurge on new shows, handbags, etc. These days, a girl in the same position probably has a much higher real salary compared to back then. The Thai economy has grown a lot and the demand for quality staff, especially those who speak a second language, has seen salaried increase a lot for some sectors. The middle class in Thailand, especially Bangkok is much better off than 20 years ago, but the lower classes not so much.

[Banana Boi]

I know girls right now struggling to make even 200 baht per day during low season. Only a very small percentage of girls are able to pull in the 5000 LT Japanese customers on a nightly basis.

[Crocodilexp]

Your 200 USD is nothing to Thai people now.

Your claims of Thai people being suddenly rich, living costs in Thailand being higher than US and such, is well beyond ridiculous.

There has been growth in Thailand, but income inequality is still vast, and most Thais earn not much more than the minimum wage, which is $10/ day, meaning $300/ mo. $200 goes a very, very long way here with ordinary people, albeit perhaps not with a small group of overpriced hookers. Compared to the minimum wage, offering $200 in Thailand is the exact equivalent of offering $1000 in the US. Not a life-changing amount, but not something many people would sneer at.

[HorneeFalang]

Your 200 USD is nothing to Thai people now.

$200 US nothing to Thai people?? 6,640 THB. Dear MrManGuy, Money is everything to Thai people. Learn it.

[MrManGuy]

Thailand's GFE advantage is fairly close to slipping away. Just about 5-10 years ago, every second hooker was sweet (and cheap! These days, it's every 10th, and given the prices, those odds are no longer fun unless you're truly desperate for that Thai GFE hooker experience which was more or less the norm before.

They are all sweet to me. So sweet. Maybe YOU changed.

[MrManGuy]

You Americans just need to accept the average America no longer has a lot of money. Your 200 USD is nothing to Thai people now. There are many many families in Pattaya now. Gogo bars are barely brothels with most girls masking a salary and drinks beónus and need only 1 or 2 customer short time per week.

In pattaya you either settle for average girls (who are still decent but the main reason to hire them is their personality) or you play the GoGo game of buy 10 drinks fight for scraps of japanese men. Maybe next time don't vote for idiot republicans with economic policies that only make sense for a minority. If you are in they minority then you have no problem paying 6 k LT. She is a lovely girl and an extra 2 k baht is just $60. Stop being tight wad.

[MrManGuy]

I do not agree with your comment that Thailand is more expensive than USA for a good quality of life. Here are some statistics pulled from Numbeo.com:


Indices Difference Info
Consumer Prices in United States are 58.16% higher than in Thailand
Consumer Prices Including Rent in United States are 78.31% higher than in Thailand
Rent Prices in United States are 141.16% higher than in Thailand
Restaurant Prices in United States are 206.96% higher than in Thailand
Groceries Prices in United States are 43.87% higher than in Thailand
Local Purchasing Power in United States is 305.72% higher than in Thailand

With respect to your comment about some Thais character, I could not agree with you anymore. Many Thai people as noted by others on this board and my opinion are racist, rude, and some men can be violent. They really don't welcome Farangs into their culture and embrace them even over time. If you get in a fight with a Thai man, be prepared to have many other Thai men jump in and help their fellow comrade beat the Farang, no matter if we are right or wrong. Also, lets not forget Lewis and Rosemary Owen from Wales, both grandparents in their 60's on vacation with their son who got beat up mercilessly by several Thais in Songkran because their son accidentally bumped into a Thai man causing him to spill a drink of beverage.

If it were not for the nice girls, I would not come here, so true.

Statistics are almost useless. Just sum totals. Would include family in isaan with buffalo and metropolitan girl in Bangkok. You want to live USA quality off life then Thailand is more expensive.

[DrifterMan]

I'm thinking of spending New Years Eve in Pattaya. What is the general scene like? I suppose everywhere will be in party mode and full of people.

[Blanquiceleste]

In fact Ultra Happy's post and analogy about the coffee bean buyer was flat out brilliant and he is clearly a man of wisdom. And you respond to him that it is useless banter to discuss prices (which many mongers apparently agree its good information to review prices) , and then you state there is no point coming to LOS if "one hole is as good as another. " (You really are being condescending here, again. )

Now, lets just move on.

If you think that analogy was brilliant, then perhaps he should run for Chief of the Federal Reserve and you could apply for the position of his secretary.

On second thought, ya. Let us just move on. Because this banter is really a waste of time. Too many Ferraris to bang out there.

[StudBucket]

I ain't takin' away that right, I am just sayin' its useless. Your world in the present is what is in front of your eyes. One has to respond to that present moment in a way that maximizes what you are after. Carpe Diem. Anything else is a waste of time.

There is a reason why people from world over come to Thailand. And that reason is what you get in Thailand isn't available anywhere else. Now if its a hole you are after at the end of the day, then your argument is valid. To extend that coffee analogy, paying $10 for a latte at Starbucks in Thailand is undoubtedly stupid when you can get the same back home. No contest.

Peace Love Empathy mate! If you care to notice I did not start the attacks. Write about your adventures all you must and we will read with rapt attention.

Boy Blanquiceleste, you sit here and state you did not start the attacks. If you look at my original post, I merely stated that in my opinion paying 6 k for top quality girls in Thailand is too much and you replied with a very smug remark "You want a Ferrari for a price of a Toyota. " That is why I responded with my comment about "guys like you ruining the market". So, if this is not insulting to you, then you really need to wake up. Then, other posters come along, and tell you it is okay to compare prices. In fact Ultra Happy's post and analogy about the coffee bean buyer was flat out brilliant and he is clearly a man of wisdom. And you respond to him that it is useless banter to discuss prices (which many mongers apparently agree its good information to review prices) , and then you state there is no point coming to LOS if "one hole is as good as another. " (You really are being condescending here, again. )

You should toss out more of your funny remarks, as that is all they are good for.

I never stated I hate Pattaya, nor suggest that mongers should question coming here. In fact, I continue to rank it up there with Angeles City as my favorite places to monger and recommend it to all. I simply agree we all have choices and other top girls can be found in Pattaya or other countries without paying the high prices of these gogo bars. Now, lets just move on.

[Crocodilexp]

There is a reason why people from world over come to Thailand. And that reason is what you get in Thailand isn't available anywhere else. Now if its a hole you are after at the end of the day, then your argument is valid.

Thailand's GFE advantage is fairly close to slipping away. Just about 5-10 years ago, every second hooker was sweet (and cheap! These days, it's every 10th, and given the prices, those odds are no longer fun unless you're truly desperate for that Thai GFE hooker experience which was more or less the norm before.

[StudBucket]

5 k LT is excellent price. Thailand more expensive than USA for a good quality of life.

The problem is the GoGo bars themselves have rude out of control staff who are incredibly pushy and rude. Never seen anything this bad anywhere in the world. Just had a 2 k bill inc barfine shoved on my face. Like literally shoved. Thai people are horrible. I don't mind the price it's the poor service and thai violence I can't stand. Most racist country ever. Luckily Thai women are wonderful hookers.

I do not agree with your comment that Thailand is more expensive than USA for a good quality of life. Here are some statistics pulled from Numbeo.com:


Indices Difference Info
Consumer Prices in United States are 58.16% higher than in Thailand
Consumer Prices Including Rent in United States are 78.31% higher than in Thailand
Rent Prices in United States are 141.16% higher than in Thailand
Restaurant Prices in United States are 206.96% higher than in Thailand
Groceries Prices in United States are 43.87% higher than in Thailand
Local Purchasing Power in United States is 305.72% higher than in Thailand

With respect to your comment about some Thais character, I could not agree with you anymore. Many Thai people as noted by others on this board and my opinion are racist, rude, and some men can be violent. They really don't welcome Farangs into their culture and embrace them even over time. If you get in a fight with a Thai man, be prepared to have many other Thai men jump in and help their fellow comrade beat the Farang, no matter if we are right or wrong. Also, lets not forget Lewis and Rosemary Owen from Wales, both grandparents in their 60's on vacation with their son who got beat up mercilessly by several Thais in Songkran because their son accidentally bumped into a Thai man causing him to spill a drink of beverage.

If it were not for the nice girls, I would not come here, so true.