Pattaya Reports

[OlderMan4U]

Nice report by Ricflairt.

I am curious though about his experience with the shoe sales girl.

I'm not sure what he meant by good girl, but I assume someone that was nice and friendly and had a regular job outside of the bars.

Anyways, I wouldn't mind asking out a girl who worked outside of the bars for a change, someone you meet working in a shop or service job. But I feel uncomfortable about it because I would be asking her out on a regular type of date such as going to a movie or just hanging out like on dates back home. Not necessarily just for sex. So after I spend time with her, am I obligated to ask her how much?

For one thing, I have read before that some girls who worked in non bar type jobs would be offended if you ask her the cost, implying that she's a working girl. But I am also aware that some girls who work at regular jobs may supplement their income with an occasional sex here and there with customers. So I wouldn't want to stiff such a girl no matter if she appears good or not.

I also wouldn't want to spoil the girl either. If she never had any intentions of wanting money and only wanted companionship that she may not get in her own life, then am I spoiling her by offering her money? And spoiling it for other guys?

One of those things where the lines can be blurred and you have to be careful I think.

[FL Hawk]

Nice report, Ricflairt.

One thing I have not attempted is to try to pick up a normal girl from a shop. No idea how old you are, but with my graying hair, I feel that to try to pick up a youngster from her day job would be futile as well as foolish. I take my laundry to Porn Laundry on Soi 13/1. There is a young woman in there who is cute who I thought of asking. There used to be a cute woman working as a waitress working at Bay Watch restaurant, or maybe Bay View, there on BR not too far north of WS, as well. Well, for that matter, there are cute shop girls all over! I know, the worst that will likely happen is they will say no, and at best I will have a wonderful time like you, so I suppose I need to man up and ask anyway.

But glad it all worked out for you. I will be back in 3 weeks. Can hardly wait.

[TomSf]

From DMK Airport took A1 bus to Mochit bus station. Took about 45 minutes to 1 hour. From Mochit took bus to north Pattaya (117 baht).

From north Pattaya baht bus can take you to your place.

Day 1:

Landed at Pattaya at 12 noon. Had a shower and some food and off to a massage parlor for an oil massage. Massage was good and worth a try. Evening just walked around Soi 6 good girls around including some beautiful ones but none was so appealing to me.

Got a contact from massage parlor. Called her on for the night and banged her - 2000 baht.

Day 2:

Off to see sanctuary of truth...

Ricflairt,

I don't know why you would be surprised a beautiful girl ask for 1000 baht. In Pattaya for short time which can be 3 hours it is always 1000 baht or less sometimes 500-600. Maybe this is your first trip to Thailand. If you act innocent like you don't know what to pay the girl senses it and will try to get as much as they can. Also you can negotiate with these girl. Now if you go to a gogo place then short time will be from 1500-2500. The price can very and the service with a gogo is usually rushed and crap. Their goal is to finish as fast as possible and get back to the club to find another customer.

[Perolav]

Hi,

Short status from yesterday In Pattaya.

My hotel served alcohol no problem all day. All shops had sign saying alcohol sale starts 17 Oct.

Around half the Gogos was not open but Whats app was closed which I found strange since Baccara and Peppermint was open. Half volume on music was actually pleasant. Alcohol sales started 24.00 due to Buddha day. Everyone closed at 02.00. I visited Baccara (girls looked bored as usual, hardly moving-I still don't understand why it is popular) full house, Fahrenheit (decent line up) full house and Alcatraz (best line up and atmosphere of these 3 yesterday).

Ibar including upstairs open. Also the others discos in WS. Restaurants open. Bath buses, moto, taxi driving as normal.

Word of mouth is that Gogo's are hoping that they can do full day until 04.00 from today Monday.

For everyone worried if they will travel or not, nothing to worry about. My guess, based on yesterdays experience is that things will be back to normal from today, latest Wednesday. I think there is bigger chance that it will take longer time in BKK for things to normalize.

[Gin And Tonic]

I hope the new king doesn't try to clean up the Pattaya we all know and love.

The go-gos and girls are the only reason I go there.

If they leave, so do I.

Read up on him. Not likely to happen. But then it is not a sure thing he will be the monach.

[Old New Guy]

Brits and Euros can't go to Muslim beaches like Tunisia, Egypt, Morocco, Turkey, anymore because the Muslims want to kill them with M 15's nd bombs. So they go 10 hours to Thailand.

By this comment I guess you're the type that summarize the meaning of life as "everybody dies". Get a life instead.

[Ricflairt]

From DMK Airport took A1 bus to Mochit bus station. Took about 45 minutes to 1 hour. From Mochit took bus to north Pattaya (117 baht).

From north Pattaya baht bus can take you to your place.

Day 1:

Landed at Pattaya at 12 noon. Had a shower and some food and off to a massage parlor for an oil massage. Massage was good and worth a try. Evening just walked around Soi 6 good girls around including some beautiful ones but none was so appealing to me.

Got a contact from massage parlor. Called her on for the night and banged her - 2000 baht.

Day 2:

Off to see sanctuary of truth.

Evening had another oil massage. Very beautiful lady in Soi bukhao. She offered sex for 1200 baht but I declined as they did not have separate room just curtained inclusions. Now off to another massage parlor near Pattaya central and had a good massage. The girls were very co-operative and never asked for any tip. And thai massage for 150 baht. At night I was off to walking street Tony disco. I was a bit nervous there so called upon our member jak patel for help. A girl I met in restaurant brought me a good girl for 2000 baht a night. She had big boobs and was drunk: Think1: Had a good time with her.

Day 3:

I was into a foot wear shop to find a pair of slippers for beach and found a good girl there. Approached her. She declined. Again after few hours approached her. She gave her number and said she will be free only after 12. So called on another girl who helped me find a girl in disco. She came over with her bike and took me to jometian beach. We drink, dance and sing in beach and it was the best moments I had rather than sex, that too free of cost. At around 11.30 it started raining and on our way back dancing in rain was super fun. Just loved the girl. Now at 12 I called upon the foot wear shop girl. After work she came to my room. Beautiful girl. Never asked her the rate. Banged her. She said she wanted to leave at 5 I agreed. When leaving I asked how much she wanted. She said 1000 baht. I was surprised just 1000 bhats for this good girl. Any way this was the best day in Pattaya. Total expense 1000 baht and 2 beer and 2 girls one for banging and other for fun at beach.

Day 4:

Visited under world Pattya.

Evening again called upon the beach girl. Got a couple of beer bottles. Roaming around city in her bike. Sat on beach for few hours. Had a nap on her lap. Got back. She dropped me to my hotel and said she would come back after a little work. She works as a manager in a shop. She got back at 10. Had a street dinner with her. Got her to room. WILD GIRL. Not a prostitute type girl. Managed to get her activated in a couple of hours.

Day 5 :

Had a massage and left Pattaya at 12.

Total expenses for me: 2500 baht for hotel.

2000+2000+1000 = 5000 baht for girls.

And 600 baht for massage.

1400 baht for food.

Misc expenses extra.

Total expenses including flight:16000 Baht.

[Banana Boi]

Phil, you have clearly been to Pattaya before. You really shouldn't need to ask if there is any place better. If you took the top 1% of girls in BKK vs. Pattaya, BKK likely has the edge but the pure quantity available in Pattaya makes it a better option imo.

[Sunlover2]

Hi All,

I will be in Thailand for about 5 days in early November. Wondering where to best spend the time for some R & R fun. Bangkok vs Pattaya vs Phuket. First time here in Thailand. Thanks for any advice.

- DD Phil.

First of all you cross-posted the same question in the Bangkok forum. No need to do that really.

Second thing is you posted this rather lengthy ISG report on your visit to Pattaya in 2011. Is it really your "first time here in Thailand" or do you just have a short memory? Or possibly you recently hit your head really hard?

So took my first trip to Thailand last week. (I usually travel in Latin and South America and parts of Europe). I stayed in Pattaya for a week.

I went during their New Year celebrations. I figured it would be over by April 15 or 16. So I arrived on the 16th. But the festivities ended up going on until April 19. So walking down the streets in Pattaya during this time means getting soaked with water. Its their tradition to have water guns and squirt / soak passers by. Everyone was doing it everywhere, including the tourists. Its all good fun, but I wished it only lasted one day!

Pattaya itself is basically a party city with beach. Its somewhat crazy. There literally hundreds of bar-hotels (and some with restaurants). All these bars have girls that are available. In addition there's all the Go-Go bars in the Walking district area and the area around Areca hotel. There's probably more go-go bars, but I had enough fun in these two areas and not enough time to explore other parts.

There's also lots of guys from northern Europe here on extended holiday stays of 1-3 months or retired. Came across several of them in the bars during the day and had good converstaions with them.

Beers prices are fairly cheap at $2 (60-70 Baht) at most bars and in the Go-Go bars around $3-4. Drinks for ladies seems to be set at around $4 everywhere.

Food was also cheap. Most decent meals were costing me around $5-7 including a non-alcoholic drink. Breakfast was included in my hotel, but otherwise costs around $4.

I did some research on this forum first and decided to stay at Penthouse and booked for 2 nights. I think it was a mistake and I am so glad I only booked 2 nights. They have a policy of you paying up front and in the event you change your mind and want to leave earlier. Well tough luck..

SL.

[Adrena]

I hope the new king doesn't try to clean up the Pattaya we all know and love.

The go-gos and girls are the only reason I go there.

If they leave, so do I.

[OlderMan4U]

The shophouses in Cowboy are individually owned. If there would have been own owner of that land, it would have been gone a long time ago, probably when Interchange Tower was developed. Nana is one owner. When he thinks he can make more money from a sale; he will. Patpong will continue as tourist "Disneyland" or sorts. Kind of like Bourbon St in New Orleans is today. The bars in Pattaya are really not what they were even a decade ago. Beers bars have just about died out and really only a few GoGos bank. Soi 6 is still doing ok, but overall Pattaya does not really need to monger any more with more and more mainstream tourists.

I think it's reached sort of a balance, with pay for pleasure on one side, and mainstream tourist atmosphere on the other. I'm sure it's not the same as before, nothing ever is, life is always about changes. But I don't think they have to be mutually exclusive.

Why would anyone prefer not to go in December? Peak Season? December has the very best weather in Thailand in normal circumstances (balmy warm but not so hot and sticky). If you want beautiful beaches, the Andaman side of Thailand is more beautiful in December, e. G. Phuket.

Bangkok is very quiet when getting close to new year. I guess Pattaya may be quieter too. Girls go back to their provinces for New Year.

I go to Thailand any time of the year, since I live there part time. I don't see any great issues.

I am just not a big fan of crowds, and I've been before during that time period. Not a huge deal but just prefer relatively lighter crowds. I'm not sure how things will be this year if the New Years celebration is going to be curtailed.

I am currently in Pattaya and was wondering how the bars will handle the passing of the King. As expected, after a first shock, the business sense prevailed for quite a few. Imagine all the tourists and all the girls. The tourists came here for fun and not for mourning. The girls (and the families they support!) can only survive a few days without income and, hence, the business must go on. This was then also my impression when I was in WS around 10 PM. Quite a number of bars were open at that time. However, they had no lights outside and only briefly opened the doors to let customers in and out. Inside it was close to normal. Most of them just tuned down the volume a bit (which I appreciated anyhow! Some of the open bars, however, even had somewhat louder music, which you could hear in the whole WS. Altogether, perhaps about 40-50% of the bars in WS were in operation. Only did the girls not dance topless or nude. They were all covered like "coyotees". Nevertheless, you could barfine and take them out as normal. At least if you were fast enough. Due to the pressure by the police (and one mama mentioned the military), they closed at midnight sharp. So, you were on the lucky side if you had made your catch by then..

The last part is the same way I feel also.

[DD Phil]

Hi All,

I will be in Thailand for about 5 days in early November. Wondering where to best spend the time for some R & R fun. Bangkok vs Pattaya vs Phuket. First time here in Thailand. Thanks for any advice.

- DD Phil.

[Knobrm]

What he say is that.

1. visible events like concerts are off, and sound level of music playing places needs to be reduced or even turned off.

2. people can go meet each other as before (mourn together).

Think like Asian...There is no conflict...

It is a bit confusing but it never surprises me? Here you have the Governor of Chon Buri, saying Entertaining is okay Makes you wonder who is actually running the whole picture. A law is created for the entire country but each province can choice to deviate from it?

Good that the Bars and Go Go can go on as before but I think what they are referring to are the concerts etc. That have been plan. Current one is coming up is the Big Moon festival, I before that has been cancelled. Not sure of the big fireworks competition is on that list. It was rumor events like Loy Krothong, New Years Celebration has been cancelled in Pattaya. No lost for me maybe they can extend it for Songkran?

[LittleBigMan]

It is a bit confusing but it never surprises me? Here you have the Governor of Chon Buri, saying Entertaining is okay Makes you wonder who is actually running the whole picture. A law is created for the entire country but each province can choice to deviate from it?

Good that the Bars and Go Go can go on as before but I think what they are referring to are the concerts etc. That have been plan. Current one is coming up is the Big Moon festival, I before that has been cancelled. Not sure of the big fireworks competition is on that list. It was rumor events like Loy Krothong, New Years Celebration has been cancelled in Pattaya. No lost for me maybe they can extend it for Songkran?

[Knobrm]

Guess it just means that they let the meat market to run just the facade a bit cleaner, i.e just with lower noise and dimmer lights and / or doors closed if such exist.

As before, crackdown just means market will go a bit deeper in shadows for a period, but continues to operate. China is the same. For sake of official face they need to say entertainment is forbidden, however what actually happens behind the scenes is another thing. Asian way. Entertainment (like concerts etc) is reduced or even banned , but normal human interaction between genders is let to run i.e boys and girls can still meet.

After a midnight session with my regular went out to check WS clubs last (Friday) night and contrary to our expectations 808, iBar and Insomnia were open. Ibar sound level maybe 60-70% of normal, not many people either. Insomnia maybe 90% vol level, almost normal. 808 open but doors closed to reduce noise to street, inside sound level normal but very few people. When leaving asked the familiar guard if they open on Sat and he said yes.

My girl (who works in bar in evenings) told bars are allowed to run just no music or bright lights. Many girls relieved after initial concern of no money for a month.

I would expect from mongering perspective bars and clubs run as before after couple of days, maybe with doors closed or sound level a bit lower. Girls also likely to co back work after couple of days of mourning, as my girls said yes they love (d) the king but they need to eat too. Agogos seemed to be mostly closed. No issue for me as would not go anyway, actually better for me as closed agogos mean more pretty girls in clubs 555.

So in short. Most probably mongering continues, just maybe a with a bit lower sound and light level.

Alcohol sales not impacted at all.

Pol Col Apichai Krobpetch, chief of Pattaya police, revealed that the governor of Chonburi already declared that entertainment venue can open as usual; however, any kind of entertainment would be totally cancelled.

http://pattayadailynews.com/official...ent-cancelled/

Huh? WTF? Entertainment venues can open as usual but entertainment is banned? So the go-go's will be open as usual but it will be like going to the library.