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  1. #19388

    Viper Bar, Pratumnak Hill

    I read Viper Bar, the old Sapphire Lodge, got raided a couple weeks ago and they found nothing. Now I hear they're shut down for 5 years. There were some ok girls there so hopefully they hopped over to nearby Kinnaree Place. I'm looking for this girl. If anyone knows where she went it would be much appreciated.
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  2. #19387
    Quote Originally Posted by Haven123  [View Original Post]
    Not yet Mr ENT. But I will in the next couple of days and let you know. From VT 6 I saw Soi 9 was real close and then 8 and so I thought Soi 6 was just a bit further ahead! So, I am wondering how far Soi 3 actually is from Soi 6. ?
    LOL. Same thing happened to me my second time in Pattaya. I met a chick online who worked in an internet cafe. She told me it was Jomtien Soi 5. I didn't know what a Jomtien was then, but I knew I was staying on Soi 8. So I walked toward Soi 7 and kept walking. And kept walking. Then I was like fuck this. Don't remember how I eventually found out that Jomtien was another part of town. Maybe the hotel reception told me. And I ended up taking a motorbike taxi there only to find out the girl was on vacation and had gone back home. We did end up getting together on my next trip though.

    In your case, Soi 3 is not far from Soi 6. I think it is at the corner where the Sabai Soapy Massage is.

  3. #19386
    Quote Originally Posted by MrEnternational  [View Original Post]
    Did you ever get over to Soi 3? If so, how did that turn out for you?
    Not yet Mr ENT. But I will in the next couple of days and let you know. From VT 6 I saw Soi 9 was real close and then 8 and so I thought Soi 6 was just a bit further ahead! So, I am wondering how far Soi 3 actually is from Soi 6. ? Will have to discover. I actually liked Soi 6 but did not get to see the other Soi's as I was with Uncle V and OLDNEWGUY, since Uncle V is leaving early AM.

    I did get a taxi with AC to take me to the Santuary of Truth earlier today, wait for me and come back for 600 Baht, so I'm thinking even if Soi 3 is pretty far up from Soi 6 I should be fine getting there soon enough. In my first few days, until this afternoon, all my travels had been exclusively in the direction of Walking Street and I stayed out until 7 am on 3 consecutive nights! LOL.

    Tonight, I will spend some decent time, at least 1. 5 hours each at Mixx and 808, and I'll let you know how I do.

    Soi 3 later this week. Also, need to check out the other Sois between VT 6 and Soi 6. BTW, I finally figured out where I stayed on my last visit in 2002! It was at the Dusit Thani for just 2 nights and I remember in those days having found a nice girl I took LT from one of the beer bars on Naklau road (seems like most of those bars are now gone) and another Go Go place, but still have not figured out which one. I know I never made it to Walking Street on my last trip, so I don't know, and I'm sure it's gone by now (and I found a nice go go girl there then for LT but don't recollect where that was, but it was a corner one and there were many gogos in that area then. . In other words, I still have a lot to discover and even more to learn, particularly about how sensitive Thai women can be ( I am just not sensitive and don't care much for sensitive women and even less about jealous women ). Partly why I like Latin girls since they are ( relatively) cool and OK with it, and I never discuss dineros with them ahead of time. Here it is different ball game for me, and one I need to learn to deal with within my head. !!!

  4. #19385
    Quote Originally Posted by Haven123  [View Original Post]
    And headed now to Central Festival at 1020 am. And from there to Sanctuary of Truth (part of the reason I did not want to go out last night) and will return to visit the Soi 6, 7 and other Soi bars which I have never seen (the other reason I wanted to be able to do day time activities rather than sleep all day after going to bed at 9 am for 3 straight nights).
    Did you ever get over to Soi 3? If so, how did that turn out for you?

  5. #19384
    Quote Originally Posted by MumbaiGuy  [View Original Post]
    No my friend it is way too expensive. The typical LT rate in Pattaya is 2000 B (60 US $). Max 3000 B (85 US $) if she is a young spinner.
    I am talking about the prices for the top gogo girls at the top gogos.

    You are quoting him FL prices.

    Apples and oranges.

  6. #19383
    Quote Originally Posted by MrManGuy  [View Original Post]
    What is that? $180 USD? For an entire night. I assume it includes BBBJ? What about CIM. If she is young enough and decent looking, that is bloody cheap is it not?
    No my friend it is way too expensive. The typical LT rate in Pattaya is 2000 B (60 US $). Max 3000 B (85 US $) if she is a young spinner.

  7. #19382
    Quote Originally Posted by MrManGuy  [View Original Post]
    What is that? $180 USD? For an entire night. I assume it includes BBBJ? What about CIM. If she is young enough and decent looking, that is bloody cheap is it not?
    Not cheap for Thailand, especially in Pattaya. As discussed many times: you can't take your home market VFM prices and transfer them here. Different market, different pricing scale. If you overpay the girls will not see you as generous; they will perceive you as a chump farang and a potential mark who is unfamiliar with the local scene.

    SL.

  8. #19381
    Quote Originally Posted by UncleVolodya  [View Original Post]
    Fucking hell. She sounds amazing! She certainly was not there last night after 2 AM. Maybe she got snapped up by some lucky SOB? A lot of guys were out last night it seemed.

    I will be on the lookout for her. Though I prefer my ladies petite.

    There is a girl that sounds just like her at What's Up. She is one of the models that does the shows. A real stunner. But I am sure she'd cost a fortune. And no guarantee of GFE.

    BTW: IMHO there are some serious lookers at What's Up these days. 3 or 4 of the models are just stunning. And from the regular girls numbers 26, 28 and 48 are gorgeous too.

    But prices are steep. I was quoted 1500 BF and 3K ST, 5K LT by #48. And for LT she said she only would stay till 6AM!. Outrageous. I did not even counter offer.
    What is that? $180 USD? For an entire night. I assume it includes BBBJ? What about CIM. If she is young enough and decent looking, that is bloody cheap is it not?

  9. #19380

    Pattaya Trip Report, Take 2 – Day 2

    Pattaya Trip Report, Take 2 Day 2.

    Got up, collected my dirty clothes from Phuket and took them to my favorite spot on Soi 13/1, Porn Laundry. It was freaking hot at 10:30 in the sun. Went on down and over to Bay Watch for a real breakfast. On the way back to my hotel I got solicited by an older lady. No thanks. Worked on yesterdays' report and did some work, then it was time for Soi 6.

    Went to Soi 6 at about 3 PM. There was the usual afternoon traffic backup on 2nd road. The weather is nice at least now. Cloudy and cooler, and it looks like it is raining to the Northwest. I plan to simply walk down Soi 6 until I find a reasonably attractive woman and not be too worried about not getting the best one and walking back and forth in a vain attempt to find her. So, I start walking and it seems the quality is a bit higher this time. I get about halfway down and I see a spinner with long hair with a nice face and smile at Smoke and Mirror, I believe it is. I go to her, and she seems almost surprised. But she is happy and takes my had to go inside. Her name is Ploy. As I look more closely I see that perhaps she is a bit older than I first thought, but she is thin, nice legs, curvy for a skinny girl, with obviously A sized boobs. Her hair is down to her waist, a little on the thin side unlike many girls who have such rich and luscious hair, and is slightly bleached to be a dark blonde or brownish color. I hesitate and think that I can do better, but with her cute face and cute smile, I continue one with her. She seems happy. The bar fine there is the standard 300 with 1000 for the girl.

    I buy my soda water and buy her a drink, then we go upstairs. We have to go up the third floor, but in this building the stairs, though steep, have a handrail, so it is not too big a problem. We halfway undressed each other and, with the final shedding of clothes, she led me to the shower and washed me. In bed, she asked what I wanted and I said to go slow, and to not be worried if cannot not release. We started touching and she revealed that she actually had 2 kids! There are no stretch marks I can find on her, and her boobs, while quite small, don't appear to have been sucked on. She said she tried to breast feed them, and her breasts were big for a while, but I guess both babies preferred the bottle. She also said she was 28. She guessed my age and was off by over 10 years. Maybe being nice, but she seemed really surprised that I was at an age once called elderly. Also nice was she said my manhood was large. It isn't, but always nice to hear. I do keep hearing I am a good size for Asian women, which is another way to say I am average for a western guy I suppose. But average is fine with me.

    After the touching with some light kissing, she proceeded with a BBBJ. It really wasn't all that good. Then the cover (we used hers, as I had forgotten to take mine). She was wet and even with two kids, she felt pretty good inside, all things considered, but she certainly didn't have to wiggle to get me in. We started in cowboy, then switched to missionary until I got tired, then to doggy. I really tried to pound her, and she was moaning and gave me the thumbs up sign several times. Later she told me I did it like a young man. We switched back to missionary and engaged in some FK, and there were a few times I thought I might be able to release, but I didn't push it. I stopped when the feelings stopped being so good. We cuddled and talked some more. She is leaving tomorrow to go home to Isaan to visit her family. She says she does this every month. Got to be hard to leave your kids to go screw men for money. But with no men to screw for money, she would be in a world of hurt.

    But she was nice, caring and accommodating. I think I could have found someone else better looking, but she was a good choice. I have no real regrets.

    I did consider stepping into another place for a second round, but decided not to. I instead had a late lunch at Subway on the way back. Tonight it will be WS, and I have to decide if I will do Bell tonight or skip out on her again. I don't know. I still have that gut feeling it will be a disaster, but I really need to get with her just to see. She might be amazing. If she had a softer voice or was easier to understand I might be ready to jump on her. I don't know.

    Was late to WS, not arriving until 10 PM. I took the baht bus down and I must say I have never seen so may SWers on BR. From Soi 13 down to Bay Watch, dozens and dozens of them, many appearing to be halfway decent and most of them actual, real girls. Arriving at WS, I was hungry so back the New York Diner for more fried rice. I had their 12 baht chocolate mousse which was frozen solid. Forget it. Better to McDonald's and get an Oreo blizzard.

    I left and saw the young girl who does the gymnastics. I remember her from last year, and my has she grown!

    I go in to Bliss, asking about Fon. The gal I speak to has no idea who Fon is. I leave without buying a drink. I later message Fon asking if she is still in town, and she answers yes. I reply that I came to see her, but no more bar fines! No response yet.

    Went to Sky Fall. A lot of reasonably nice women here. My soda was 120. But I was not really feeling it. This techno music is grating on my ears. Then went to Iron. Didn't like their music either! Haha Talked to several girls, both doable. I bought one a drink. A friend came over and sat next to her and asked for a drink, too, but I declined. Some girls sat on the other side of me and one started talking. She later asked for a drink, but I decided I was going to leave. I instead gave her 40. That was cheaper than a 180 LD.

    I stopped into the read Red Car disco. This was around 12:30 AM I guess. It was full but not packed. Interesting, but I didn't stay. I then decided to go to Light House and see Bell. She was there and excited again to see me. After a bit I bar fined her, curious as to how she would turn out. I had a gut feeling it would not be that great.

    At the hotel in the light, I could tell she was older than I may have first thought, certainly being over 30, though it really is not that obvious. Her body looks young and is quite toned. I was surprised that her breasts were enhanced up to a see. I couldn't really tell from the outfits she wears. But she needed the enhancement as she had large nipple and they need a see size. So, this was my first clue that she was a mommie. You can barely tell from her stomach that she is however. The enhancement looks ok but was not well executed. You can feel the bag, which is a slight downer. Anyway, contrary to my gut, she gave one awesome BBBJ. Truly outstanding. She worked hard, had my entire rod wet with her saliva, and she kept at it for a long while. It was as good as a GF hoping for that engagement ring might provide. Then the cover. She felt nice inside, and not super tight that may seem nice in theory but I am not so sure in practice. We did various positions and she was active an energetic the entire time. And yes I released with her. I was exhausted and dripping in sweat, but I got the job done. I gave her 2000. We never talked price, but I figured a base of 1500 was fair, and she earned the 500 tip. So, yeah, I can recommend Bell at Light House. I may now never see her again, but I am glad I finally consummated our relationship.

    I went to bed exhausted. I am again having problems sleeping, and my skin is still itching.

  10. #19379
    Quote Originally Posted by Haven123  [View Original Post]
    2. Re throwing up, I just did not think she was that drunk. And if indeed she was to a point where she would need to throw up, it would be a huge turn off for me and it would have resulted in zero action on my part in bed. So, given that, maybe if she was indeed going to throw up, her leaving was probably best for both of us. I myself have only thrown up thrice in the last 11 years and I sure would not want anyone to be around me for at least 48 hrs after that. I thoroughly detest myself when I do it to myself and I'm very sure I did not have a single drink after that, on each occasion, at least for a week, because after I throw up, just the thought of drinking alcohol is a huge turn off for me. So, how I feel about that is consistent in both instances / or directionally.
    No offense mate, but you are to serious. Those line's show enough.

    We all here understand your point, but you line out very strict limit's. Don't overstep those, otherwise I'm out of the game! Right?

    Hell, you partying in the nightlife area of Thailand until SUN rises again! What do you expect from a 40 kg girl at this stage of day?

    If those written principles are so important to you, why not rebalanced your own approach? 7 am in the morning won't get you a sober girl which is not throwing up. You may find out a better time by yourself.

    You may find sober girls at this time, but those won't be very intriguing for the punter's, as they are themselves not very sober at the moment. Old vice versa problem haha.

  11. #19378
    Quote Originally Posted by OldNewGuy  [View Original Post]
    Spot on, I had been using that nick also! Then switched because of a lost password or something.

    Just back from another night on the prowl.
    Both you guys are something else! Hats off! As for me, after the previous night's epic fail, I actually did not sleep well until after almost 4 pm. Woke up at about 1230 and did not feel like going out. Even though I was hungry and had only had yogurt, fruits water, strawberry milk and Doritos all day to clean out my system. LOL.

    Super hungry now. And headed now to Central Festival at 1020 am. And from there to Sanctuary of Truth (part of the reason I did not want to go out last night) and will return to visit the Soi 6, 7 and other Soi bars which I have never seen (the other reason I wanted to be able to do day time activities rather than sleep all day after going to bed at 9 am for 3 straight nights).

    Also, been researching the Tiger Zoo in Sriracha and will definitely check that out later this week, when I need a rest day. LOL.

    Won't be drinking though until I head towards Walking Street around 1230 tonight. Will surely visit IBar and spend some extended time 808, and maybe Mixx too tonight, as suggested by Mr ENT.

    BTW, for those newbies like me, Soi Diana has some decent accomdations with a good location. Such as LK Renaissance, Areca Lodge and a couple others (just seeing the view from the outside and many bars and LK Metro nearby). Whitehouse Condotel (mentioned by some here looked quite poor from the street and I'm glad I never gave that much time. Bay View Hotel looks great as well and anyone wanting a hotel may want to consider that. However, no Pattaya beach view. So, I think I made the right decision with View Talay 6, beach view balcony and really nice apt and service from DanceWatchers. Having Central Festival mall right next door also a huge plus, and being on 2nd road, of course, and around the corner from the Hilton.

    Maybe I'll see you both (Old New Guy and Uncle V) around later. In Walking Street? Won't be checking here until late afternoon.

    Ciao and cheers.

  12. #19377
    Quote Originally Posted by Haven123  [View Original Post]
    Yeah, she checked the phone number and said to herself, he's the " Old New Guy " ????
    I know him from before. " he's the New Old Guy ".
    Spot on, I had been using that nick also! Then switched because of a lost password or something.

    Just back from another night on the prowl. Engaged a slim looker at the Red Car, the sophisticated type with good English and silicone. Semi-friendly at the beginning, she said it was her first time there, whatever! Request 3K, but she was unhappy with my location (did I said that Naklua was OK? And passed a ton of attitude. No deal, actually she quickly turned unpleasant. My loss two drinks, which are quite cheap at RD.

    The petite from my first night covers the pillar nearest to the bathrooms, if she could just deliver par to the look of her hotpants, legs and lips I would take her out 9 times out of 10.

    Moved to Ibar, UV was doing his thing with Miss Hot Pattaya, drunk girls zonking out, massive young foreigners dragging their 1000 Bt special fare hos. The usual.

    Next stop Marine. But I had no much energy left. Doing nothing all the day is fatiguing. Did not wanted to repeat a slim one from yesterday.

    Unable to tell myself apart from the other leftovers, wrote off the night and took home Bt 10 of fried dough. Satisfaction guaranteed.

  13. #19376
    Quote Originally Posted by OldNewGuy  [View Original Post]
    None of these 3.
    Yeah, she checked the phone number and said to herself, he's the " Old New Guy " ????

    I know him from before. " he's the New Old Guy ".

    😜

  14. #19375
    Quote Originally Posted by UncleVolodya  [View Original Post]
    When you are going together with another person they charge double. At least that is what I have been paying. So 100 sounds about right. That is what they charged me last night when we left the restaurant and I live a little closer.
    That's cause you got the " The Good Looking, Most Interedting Guy in the World " discount!

    And, I got the " Old Man Discount ".

    Haha!




    ( think about it ...you'll get it sooner or later )

  15. #19374
    Quote Originally Posted by David2  [View Original Post]
    She wanted your phone number in her phone in case something bad happened to her and the authorities would have a record of who she was communicating with?
    Yes. Only since a recent time Thai SIMs are registered with an ID.

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