Pattaya Reports

[Myrrh]

Besides appearing a bit angry, what's your point?

Yes our resident Mr. Egoternational.

I just walk up to a woman I see in Pattaya, any woman, and tap her on the shoulder and simply say 'Let's go' and 9 times out 10 they will go. Straightaway without hesitation. No need for any eye contact before hand.

The only exceptions are if they are on a friends night out in which case we will exchange numbers and arrange to meet up the next night.

As for price? That is even simpler. I just toss her a solitary brown note in the morning. No negotiations or discussions beforehand. Not needed or even necessary and no exceptions.

These are the times of course when I do happen to decide to pay.

[Dan D Dick]

Little traffic in Pattaya for 19th April? 18 and 19 are usually the 2 days more crowded for Songkran in Pattaya. My advice is to avoid the transfer on 19th and go to Pattaya the day after. I tried Songkran once, and I'll never go again in Thailand during Songkran.

I agree 100%. Unfortunately, I have an opportunity to stop off again (3rd time this year) after a visit to Helsinki (leaving tomorrow). That'll put me in Pattaya Sunday morning around 9-10 AM on the 17th. I'm guessing two difficult and one miserable day dealing with all the water at least until dark. But then I'll have a week to enjoy Pattaya correctly. Avoid Songkran if at all possible; if you want to experience it, plan to arrive on the last day.

/ dddick.

[MusicalToM]

I'd like to posts my share of experience since a huge talk is going on the price tag.

I personally feel what Mr. E says is the truth which everyone has to accept. Five different people can buy the same product for five different prices and this is a fact not only in mongering world but everywhere else. It clearly depend on one's negotiation skills. And I feel this more true for FLs seating at FL bars like iBar / Insomnia / Red Car and of-course gogo girls. But this can be less promising when it comes to Beach Road girls, they all quote the price what they deserve and one can't negotiate on a low price like that.

For example let's take my experience. I saw this petite babe in iBar and our eyes matched. After all initial formalities "How much" question came and she asked me to quote, however I repeated the same question to her and she quotes 3 k. I knew she was quoting more, but considering her petite body, looks and my attraction towards her I quote 2.5 k, we settled for 2.7 k. Paid her 3 k the next morning which included a 0.3 k tip, total 3 k she got.

Now later I connected with couple of friends who already have used her service before and after me and to my surprise they all have paid 2 k for her. For them, they quote 1 k /1.5 k and she quote 2 k which was final. You can say that I was inexperienced to pay an extra 1 k but for me it was okay since in my experience she was deserving 3 k. I'm sure this exactly is what Mr. E trying to say.

As a monger tourist one can't deny what Breadman says. You can't accept this easily but it's true that everybody wants to bring a girl as quick as possible which results in spending more time with her, may be more fucks. So for me if I see a stunner quoting me 3 k, I'm already attracted to her and she is ready to leave right away with me then may be I'll pay her that amount even if knowing the fact that others pay her 2 k. It's just that I think what I'm paying is relevant to me and if the next morning I'm happy then I believe it's VFM for me whereas it might not be VFM for someone who pays 2 k. "Time is money" is damn true everywhere.

There are multiple reports where an experienced monger makes a deal at a lower price with a gogo stunner and waits for 1-2 hrs for her to make money from LDs which she earns from other punters but not go with them mentioning anonymous reasons. Don't you think here "Time is money" for this punter, he is ready to spend less time with the lady by paying a lesser amount. If I would have a situation like this I simple would have paid the amount quoted with a slight negotiation and have taken the lady right away.

The facts mentioned by Mr. E and Breadman are like to parallel lines going in one direction and the whole world is discussing how these two line are going to intersect each other. Different persons, different perceptions however everybody is right in their perception which is true as a matter of fact.

[SiriusDog]

Warning: Do not visit Pattaya if you black. At most a mamasan hook you up with the biggest, "worker" working at that beer bar, ago go or etc. Warning if you are black stay out of Pattaya.

This is ridiculous, I'm black and I have an incredible time in Pattaya. There's 2 hip hop clubs with pretty much all black guys and Thai chick's that love hip hop and black dudes. If the Mamasan is trying to give you her biggest broad it's only cause most blacks dudes go looking for the thickest chick and they want to accommodate you, they are not being discriminatory they just think that's what you want, you can easily choose another. Anyway I'll be in Pattaya tomorrow getting wet hope you broaden your scope Bruh. Try 808 and then go to Flexx after that they love brothas there.

[Christian G]

I will be making my 3rd visit to Pattaya next week. Thinking that Songkram was from April 13-15, I figured I would totally miss it, but now I see that in Pattaya it runs until at least the 19th (next Tuesday). I will arrive BKK at about 11:30 AM next Tuesday, then will take the Bell bus to Pattaya, probably arriving at around 3:30 PM. Bell has indicated that they will not offer hotel transportation on that day, so I will need to get a taxi I presume, as I will have a large bag. Anyone know what the approximate taxi fare should be to Soi 13? I understand Beach Road will be closed.
I presume there will be relatively little traffic heading in to Pattaya on the 19th, as Bell was showing around 30 open seats.

Little traffic in Pattaya for 19th April? 18 and 19 are usually the 2 days more crowded for Songkran in Pattaya. My advice is to avoid the transfer on 19th and go to Pattaya the day after. I tried Songkran once, and I'll never go again in Thailand during Songkran.

[Mogwai]

First off, go down to the 1st floor in the airport and right outside the food court is where the Jomtien bus leaves from hourly. Bell goes to the North road bus station. YOU WILL BE BETTER OFF GOING TO JOMTIEN because the connection back to Pattaya is better. A taxi is about 200 be.

Plan on getting WET unless you are in an ENCLOSED TAXI. Water water everywhere shot at you poured on you BUY A NECK WALLET (large ziploc bag) for 50 be or so or risk getting your phone soaked. Swim trunks mitigate the wet clothes issue.

To FLHawk,

Or simply stay in Bangkok the first night and catch a bus from Ekkamai to Pattaya the next day when Songkran is all over.

[LittleBigMan]

First off, go down to the 1st floor in the airport and right outside the food court is where the Jomtien bus leaves from hourly. Bell goes to the North road bus station. YOU WILL BE BETTER OFF GOING TO JOMTIEN because the connection back to Pattaya is better. A taxi is about 200 be.

Plan on getting WET unless you are in an ENCLOSED TAXI. Water water everywhere shot at you poured on you BUY A NECK WALLET (large ziploc bag) for 50 be or so or risk getting your phone soaked. Swim trunks mitigate the wet clothes issue.

There is three ways as far as I know to getting to Jomtien?

1. Sukhumvit.

2. Railroad Track secondary Road parallel to Sukhumvit.

3. By boat.

The first two will be wall to wall cars and people. The railroad Track road isn't as bad but when you get to all the major junctions, Soi Siam, Soi Nernpludwan, Soi Khao Noi, Soi Khao Talo, it will be pretty much dead stop. And the only way to get to Jomtien from this road is turn right and head to Sukhumvit and once you get to this road it most likely will be wall to wall people and cars. On the 19th, Sukhumvit is the problem? Starting at about Noon and until Dust, Sukhumvit is packed with vehicles going up and down both direction. Maybe this year will be different? Good luck.

[Lefeu]

...If anyone here says money doesn't matter regarding the quality level of P4P pussy they're just plain living
in another world...

No kidding! So easy for some folks to hide behind a keyboard and write nonsense. It's all about the money, and if a chick thinks her pussy can Command a higher price, you can be sure she will ask for that.

[Dinghy]

I will be making my 3rd visit to Pattaya next week. Thinking that Songkram was from April 13-15, I figured I would totally miss it, but now I see that in Pattaya it runs until at least the 19th (next Tuesday). I will arrive BKK at about 11:30 AM next Tuesday, then will take the Bell bus to Pattaya, probably arriving at around 3:30 PM. Bell has indicated that they will not offer hotel transportation on that day, so I will need to get a taxi I presume, as I will have a large bag. Anyone know what the approximate taxi fare should be to Soi 13? I understand Beach Road will be closed.

I presume there will be relatively little traffic heading in to Pattaya on the 19th, as Bell was showing around 30 open seats. And my hotel has been showing a cheap rate, which makes it appear that Pattaya will be in the low season even if Songkran won't yet be officially over. I would not mind a day of Songkran as I have never experienced it before, but I think one day would be plenty!

I will be in Pattaya a week, then will return to BKK for a week to see my "GF" again (a real life, super sweet, old fashioned Thai girl, still a virgin I met online a few year back), after which I will go, alone, to Phuket for 4 days, then either back to Pattaya for a few more days or possibly back to BKK to see the GF (if I manage to break through that kevlar hymen this time).

Looking forward to it, but hope the last day (s) of Songkran won't mess things up.

First off, go down to the 1st floor in the airport and right outside the food court is where the Jomtien bus leaves from hourly. Bell goes to the North road bus station. YOU WILL BE BETTER OFF GOING TO JOMTIEN because the connection back to Pattaya is better. A taxi is about 200 be.

Plan on getting WET unless you are in an ENCLOSED TAXI. Water water everywhere shot at you poured on you BUY A NECK WALLET (large ziploc bag) for 50 be or so or risk getting your phone soaked. Swim trunks mitigate the wet clothes issue.

[Dilwala]

Hey guys,

Any suggestion of jacuzzi rooms in any guest friendly hotel on beach road.

Thanks.

[Wolvenvacht]

In business this is known as price discrimination. Price discrimination is a pricing strategy that charges customers different prices for the same product or service. In pure price discrimination, the seller will charge each customer the maximum price that he or she is willing to pay. This says absolutely nothing towards the quality of the product is my point.

By now I would have thought that it is trite knowledge that price bears no relationship to:

* attractiveness.

* type of services provided.

* quality of services.

The only thing one can be sure of is that the same girl will charge you more for LT than ST, everything else is up in the air and open for negotiations. "Caveat Emptor" as already the Old Romans knew.

The best one can hope for is to know the average prices, set yourself a budget and trust your instincts when negotiating and closing the deal.

[Mr Enternational]

But what is equally as important as price? Its 'time'. For 99 percent of the mongers on this board 'time' is a very important part of the negotiations. I'm not talking about the length of time but the time each monger has on the ground in Pattaya. What's it cost you to be turned down on a lowball offer? Nothing because your living there on a permanent basis. What's the cost to almost everyone else when the girl walks away from a lowball offer?

In this case we are not discussing specific instances of someone living in Pattaya vs someone who does not paying different prices. We are dicussing if a girl who will go for 1000 baht is less attractive than a girl who will not accept that amount. What we are disussing not only holds true for Pattaya, but any freelance market place on the planet. And it is not only for women.

Say me, you, and Tomas went to bumfuck China looking at the same souvenir in a shop one person 20 minutes after the other. I walk in first and see a posted price of $20. I ask the owner for a discount and he tells me no, the price is as marked. I decide to buy or not buy. You walk in next and see a posted price of $20, but the shop owner says he will give it to you for $17. You can buy or not buy. Tomas comes in last and sees the posted price of $20, but he tells the owner he will give him $15 for it. The owner accepts. Is the souvenir beautiful? There is no way to tell. What we do know is that 3 different strangers were able to secure 3 different prices for the same souvenir. Tomas would have you to believe because the owner was willing to sell it to him for $15 ($5 below the marked price) then the souvenir was not as attractive as the other souvenirs in the shop (eg. The girl who accepts 1000 is not attractive).

It is the same as last May my friend bought a pack of Kamagra for 200 baht. One guy the other day posted that he bought Kamagra for 100 baht. I replied to his post and said dude Kamagra is only 30 baht. Another poster came along and said he bought a whole box of 50 Kamagra from 800 baht (16 baht each). Because we are all buying the same Kamagra for 4 different prices does not mean that the person who paid the least didn't actually receive "quality" Kamagra.

In business this is known as price discrimination. Price discrimination is a pricing strategy that charges customers different prices for the same product or service. In pure price discrimination, the seller will charge each customer the maximum price that he or she is willing to pay. This says absolutely nothing towards the quality of the product is my point.

[Breadman]

As I said before, different mongers can get different prices from the same girl, so it says absolute jack shit about the attractiveness of the girl. So when a guy comes on and reports he paid a low amount it makes zero sense to assume the girl was not attractive, the same that it would be stupid to assume a guy who paid a girl 3000 baht must have had a model. This was my original point. Some guys will get beautiful women for cheap while others will pay a handsome amount for an ugly chick. Price has no correlation to the attractiveness of the girl.

But what is equally as important as price? Its 'time'. For 99 percent of the mongers on this board 'time' is a very important part of the negotiations. I'm not talking about the length of time but the time each monger has on the ground in Pattaya. What's it cost you to be turned down on a lowball offer? Nothing because your living there on a permanent basis. What's the cost to almost everyone else when the girl walks away from a lowball offer? Time is money. Every opportunity that walks away from a lowball offer takes some of my precious time. The value of my time depends on the hotness of the girl, the hotter she is the less I'm worried about spending a few bucks more.

Your viewpoint is exactly like the viewpoint of a guy living in Germany visiting the FKK clubs every weekend, he can't understand why you want to fuck 6 girls a day. You know you might never see that girl again when you return next year, he knows he'll see her again next week. You can lowball a girl, she might turn you down the first time but eventually she might accept if business is slow. We 'I' don't have that time.

[Mr Enternational]

Kind of waiting for you to login...

I don't think most BM's need to be lectured about their confidence, or level of attractiveness from someone they have never met and who was not there at the time. I have not had to pay with several very cute girls in Bangkok this winter and last. I get the feeling that you always pay.

Besides appearing a bit angry, what's your point?

People on this board that know me personally know I am not angry at all. I am very relaxed and laid back. And if the girl is a hooker then yes I always pay (although the amount varies) because when I met her I knew it was her job to sleep with men for money. I am not trying to cheat her out of her services. Women who are not hookers, I do not give money to.

My point now is that you are killing your own argument. In one post you assert that girls who accept a "low" payment of 1000 baht are not as attractive as girls who insist on more. Then you turn around and tell me that BMs should not be lectured on attractiveness by someone they have never met and who was not there at the time. Yet it is perfectly okay for you to say that girls who guys are paying 1000 to lack attractiveness when you yourself have never seen the girl and was not there at the time.

To top that off, you say that you got several very cute girls for free in Bangkok. It would stand from your own reasoning that the free girls were not as attractive as the 1000 baht girls because they accepted 0 baht, which is even less than 1000. Or is it that only your low cost girls are attractive and everyone else's are hideous?

As I said before, different mongers can get different prices from the same girl, so it says absolute jack shit about the attractiveness of the girl. So when a guy comes on and reports he paid a low amount it makes zero sense to assume the girl was not attractive, the same that it would be stupid to assume a guy who paid a girl 3000 baht must have had a model. This was my original point. Some guys will get beautiful women for cheap while others will pay a handsome amount for an ugly chick. Price has no correlation to the attractiveness of the girl.

[Leisure Dude]

Warning: Do not visit Pattaya if you black. At most a mamasan hook you up with the biggest, "worker" working at that beer bar, ago go or etc. Warning if you are black stay out of Pattaya.

I just got back from Pattaya, I'm a black guy from the US, I was concerned about this idea as well before my trip. Once I got there I had no problem finding ladies in Pattaya willing to go with me from massage girls calling out "massage" as you pass their shops, to go-go bar girls and beach road ladies as well.