Pattaya Reports

[WildBillLewis]

She says you bar fined me last year and we had fun and you were a gentleman. I said I don't want to pay the bar fine. She said OK, lets meet after we close. Then she says would you mind if I bring my girlfriend I told her you are nice guy. Now needless to say I had a great time with two cuties. I am surprised to say the least with all the wagging dicks that walk in and out of the Windmill over a years time that she remembered me. The moral of my story I think is treat the girls with some respect but fuck the shit out them.

Wise words. Great story too: seems like a real "win win (win)".

In a posting a few days ago, Uncle V suggested a blueprint for success that involved building a stable of contacts over This particular girl seems to have adopted Uncle v's approach and apparently you're on her list. What nice surprises this world can sometimes offer up!

[WildBillLewis]

Abridged:

I went to Sensations, and there's this girl dancing who smiles and says we were together before. I have no recollection, but since she has big tits it is at least plausible. I told her I just wanted to drink my beer quietly and she left me alone. Another girl half-flirted with me even though I did not buy any lady drinks, so I thought this was going to be a good night.

I ended up at Insomnia, and on my first tour around the club I notice this girl. Her name is May (rhymes with eye). I guess her age as 27 but she is 31. Quite tall: very well kept. She negotiates the price upfront. I bring down her initial asking price, and we walk out. This was to be a test of WildBillLewis' theory that the older ones are better in the sack.

Suffice to say that she was really good in the sack, so that's one more data point in favor of the theory.

It's nice for once to have a girl who knows her way around a cock.

First off, congratulations on what sounds like a great night. It does a man's ego good to have girls approach them like they approached you in Sensations. Sure, we all know that the thing they really want to get hold of is the money in your pocket. But here's another thing we all know: most of the men in Pattaya bars have money in their pockets (except for me that one time) and not all of them get approached like you were, and you were approached by two! No wonder it seemed like it was going to be a good night.

Congratulations on landing May, who looked 27 but was actually 31. She combined a still-youthful appearance with the experience that the younger ones so often lack. I'd be curious, as I'm sure others would be too, what the difference was between what she initially asked for and what you eventually agreed upon.

Your last point is an interesting one. It is nice to have a girl who knows her way around a cock. Isn't it surprising, though, that skilled practitioners of the art of sex are a bit hard to find in Pattaya? After all, the entire Pattaya sex industry revolves around that one legendary pole. The way bar girls swap stories with one another, you'd think they'd have this stuff down pat, but many (and perhaps even most) of them don't. It would be like going to the Kentucky Derby and finding that many of the jockeys were not very skilled when it came to riding horses, or discovering that many airline pilots were confused by all the knobs and dials in an airplane cockpit. It would come as a surprise I think. Anyway, it seems you landed one of the good ones.

[Eric Swiss]

I put my lucky shirt on and headed out to Walking Street. I went to Sensations, and there's this girl dancing who smiles and says we were together before. Obviously I have no recollection, but since she has big tits it is at least plausible. Anyway I told her I just wanted to drink my beer quietly and she left me alone. Another girl half-flirted with me even though I did not buy any lady drinks, so I thought this was going to be a good night.

I went to The Pier but it was too early, there was nobody. Predictably, I ended up at Insomnia, and on my first tour around the club I notice this girl with a classy dress and fake Chanel bag. I approach and strike a conversation. Her name is May (rhymes with eye). I guess her age as 27 but she is 31. Quite tall: 1 m66. One child but very well kept. This time she negotiates the price upfront. I bring down her initial asking price, and we walk out. This was to be a test of WildBillLewis' theory that the older ones are better in the sack.

The BBBJ was really good. She went on for a long time. It was so good that instead of lying on my back, as I normally do, I knelt on the bed to watch her from above sucking me. Very nice view!

Suffice to say that she was really good in the sack, so that's one more data point in favor of the theory. I remember specifically one moment when we were doing missionary, and she folded back her knees to put her ankles around my neck, then she passed both her forearms around her knees in what I can only describe as the Brace! Brace! Position (see attached picture). I nearly made an emergency landing right there and then!

Towards the end, I still had trouble coming due to beer-induced decreased sensitivity, so I told her she could finish me off with her mouth. For some reason she insisted I finish off pounding her pussy instead, so the burden was on her to find a position that would make me irresistibly go over the edge. Here's what she did: starting from a regular doggy-style, she oriented herself so she would face the mirror on the side of the bed, and lifted her chest up and placed her hands on the mirror. She was basically looking at herself in the mirror getting pounded by me. That turned me on so much that I shot my load immediately. Mission accomplished!

It's nice for once to have a girl who knows her way around a cock. Why don't all of them make a bit of effort to learn, it's not difficult, dammit?

[Eric Swiss]

The moral of my story I think is treat the girls with some respect but fuck the shit out them.

Good motto!

[FL Hawk]

<snipped> I don't know but all I can think of is I treated her decently the year before. I am surprised to say the least with all the wagging dicks that walk in and out of the Windmill over a years time that she remembered me. The moral of my story I think is treat the girls with some respect but fuck the shit out them.

How some of these providers remember the things they do is beyond me. Is it something innate in women that allows them to remember what they do, or something innate in males that allows us to forget the things we do?

But great for you! Had you been a dick head with her, she would have avoided you and this wonderful experience you had would not have happened. Good to hear that some of these ladies are not so jaded that they remember and appreciate good men who treat them with respect.

[FL Hawk]

Shitty advice. What you propose is a great way to create new strains of antibiotic-resistant bacteria. They are already prevalent, and Gonorrhea is on average more difficult to treat now than 10 or 20 years ago. Do not take antibiotics without checking with a doctor first, don't take them when you don't need them, and take the full course prescribed.

Resistance sets up when you don't complete a course of antibiotics. In this case, you take a single dose and you are done and, if you have a bug, it gets killed.

I certainly agree it is not the ideal way, but it can take a few days for an infection to show up on the tests. If he is leaving Friday and he gets tested on Thursday, but he caught a bug on Wednesday, his test will be negative. So, he goes home and has sex with the wife on Saturday thinking he is clean, only to wake up Sunday to a painful dick. Oops. His wife may now have the clap!

If he takes the full dose maybe 12 hours after his last P4P activity, it will kill any bacterial bugs if may have picked up and he will go home clean. It is people who are, say, prescribed 7 days of doxy and quit after 2 or 3 days, who cause resistance.

And doctors treat patients this way all the time. You go to the clinic and, just to be safe, they give you a prophylactic treatment of Zithromax or doxy or whatever as they know it is difficult to get people back in for treatment should they test positive.

Ideally, of course, he refrains from sex with the wife for a week before being tested, but if he wife is expecting sex when he gets home, what can he do? He can use the "too tired" excuse only so long. And, ideally, he should wait even longer to have sex with her to see if HPV or HSV shows up, and continue to refrain for another couple of months and then go back for an HSV panel and HIV test. These are the risks.

So, I think my advice is quite logical and is based on actual medical practices. Again, he can test clean in Thailand but still come home with a bug, and the only way to ensure he does not bring back gonorrhea or Chlamydia is either refrain from sex for a week to see if a bug develops, or by taking a prophylactic treatment two days or so before having unprotected sew with someone else. My shitty advice could possibly save a marriage.

[Feelz Good]

You can never be sure that it will be reciprocated but ie. Last Nov I go back to the Windmill, one of my favorite spots for a few beers, I am sitting there and this cutie runs over and jumps on my lap. I think OK here comes the the Lady Drink request. To my surprise she says, "don't you remember me?" I look at her but do not have a clue. Probably my Alzheimer's disease but I said no I am sorry. She says you bar fined me last year and we had fun and you were a gentleman. I was in Windmill the year before and I did a couple take-outs but do not remember this doll. Anyway, long story short she says lets get together again. I said I don't want to pay the bar fine. She said OK, lets meet after we close. Then she says would you mind if I bring my girlfriend I told her you are nice guy. Now needless to say I had a great time with two cuties. My total cost was 2500 Baht. Yes I did do this girl the year earlier because I found a photo of her on my computer that I took the year before. Now the moral of my story is I am over sixty, not good looking, overweight, not a porn star by any means and my weiner is below average. Why did this young lady remember me? I know I didn't overpay last year or this year for two cuties that rocked my world. All she said on leaving is call me anytime, you nice man. Her girlfriend pipes up and says me to. I don't know but all I can think of is I treated her decently the year before. I am surprised to say the least with all the wagging dicks that walk in and out of the Windmill over a years time that she remembered me. The moral of my story I think is treat the girls with some respect but fuck the shit out them.

I'm seeing two more theorems to add to my list here: 1) show a little respect; 2) pay-as-you-go and pay cash! I agree with both, of course. The only thing I would add is that the first theorem is always a bet, because you can never be sure it will be reciprocated, so you've got to work the odds. But the second one is a slam dunk.

[Crocodilexp]

To deal with bacterial infections, I would just go to the pharmacy and get 4-250 MG pills of Azithromycin and take them as a single dose right after you said goodbye to the last girl. Do that, and bye bye any potential chlamydia or gonorrhea infections. At the clinic, they would probably want to swab inside your penis. I would rather take the drugs to be safe than do the swab.

Shitty advice. What you propose is a great way to create new strains of antibiotic-resistant bacteria. They are already prevalent, and Gonorrhea is on average more difficult to treat now than 10 or 20 years ago. Do not take antibiotics without checking with a doctor first, don't take them when you don't need them, and take the full course prescribed.

[Eric Swiss]

That said, if you have had the pleasure (and enjoyed the illusion) of having "seduced" the girl over the course of a couple of hours at a night club like Insomnia or Marine or The Pier, you get the benefit of an extended (but still illusory) GFE-like experience.

Third, one of the risks with the night club pickup is that, with it being late and with the girl having gyrated on the dance floor for a couple of hours, the girl can tire (and so can the guy, for that matter). If you're dealing with a clock watching "short time" girl and / or a room that you have for only an hour, this can be a problem. If. As you did. You've got a little more flexibility, then you can take a chance, accommodate the girl, and let her rest. You probably know that researchers in the field of sleep patterns talk about "first sleep" and "second sleep", and how, before the Industrial Age, it was not at all uncommon for our ancestors to wake up in the middle of the night and do things. Of course one of the favorite things to do was fuck the person who'd been sleeping in your arms. From that perspective, the risk you took was well judged and, clearly, it paid off. On my most recent trip to Thailand, I only had a couple of liaisons that involved the play / sleep / play / sleep / play scenario, but on the trip prior to that, I found myself in that scenario quite often and really, really, really came to like it. Sounds like you had a great experience. I'm glad for you, and envious.

Thank you for the list of clubs, I'm always going to Insomnia, but I've felt the need to broaden my horizon lately.

I am familiar with this sleep research. Lek comes from a long family tree of women who have been genetically selected (in part) for their willingness to have sex in the middle of the night, because the unwilling ones had fewer offspring (all else being equal), so I hoped there was some of that left in her.

While you may be envious that I am in Thailand, I am envious of what you could achieve in 28 days in Thailand, so in the big scheme of things it is all square!

[Eric Swiss]

You finally got what you wanted and a little respect paid off. You cannot get to attached no matter what it seems like because it is almost always, 99.7% of the time, Pay for Play, period. When money isn't mentioned it is always quietly implied. So knowing that, and keep on reminding yourself of that, when experiencing all the different venues, your mind will be setup for a good time. It is a lesson learned by all successful mongers in Pattaya.

I'm seeing two more theorems to add to my list here: 1) show a little respect; 2) pay-as-you-go and pay cash! I agree with both, of course. The only thing I would add is that the first theorem is always a bet, because you can never be sure it will be reciprocated, so you've got to work the odds. But the second one is a slam dunk.

[Eric Swiss]

She is a cheap working girl and you are the customer of a cheap working girl- we all are.

Maybe its just me but I find it more fun dealing with reality. Thinking they want to be my GF is silly and downright a downer. Hahaha!

I was not thinking that Lek wanted to be my girlfriend. She just wanted to be treated like one until the sun came up over Walking Street.

[FL Hawk]

Hi all,

Anyone know a good private clinic where I can get some tests done. Just want to be sure I'm not going home with some uninvited guests LOL.

Has anyone had one before? What's the drill?

How long does it take to get results? I will only be in Pattaya for 4 nights.

Thanks in advance.

Red

From my research, there is an STD clinic on Soi Buakhao when turning left from Soi Diana onto Buakhao. But I could have that mixed up with a pharmacy.

Or course, if you happened to catch HIV, HSV or HPV, tain't nothing much you can do. But, too late now. To deal with bacterial infections, I would just go to the pharmacy and get 4-250 MG pills of Azithromycin and take them as a single dose right after you said goodbye to the last girl. Do that, and bye bye any potential chlamydia or gonorrhea infections. At the clinic, they would probably want to swab inside your penis. I would rather take the drugs to be safe than do the swab.

[WildBillLewis]

It's a good opportunity to gauge the chemistry if you can read women. I have never had a bad experience when the chemistry was on in the bar. Only when I forced it and taken a girl home despite the magic not being there in the bar.

And if you hit it off you can always repeat. Call the girl and have her come to you for a nice relaxing evening. Hitting the bars till all hours gets old for me after a while and I don't want to do it every night. The key is to build up a little stable of ladies that you can repeat with, adding and subtracting girls over time.

At least this is my blueprint. LOL.

I agree 100%. My first visit to Pattaya, two years ago lasted only three days: the rest of that month-long visit to Thailand (my first) was spent touring around elsewhere. Live and learn they say. After a disappointing month-long visit to the Philippines a year ago, I decided that if when I returned to Thailand, I wasn't going to waste my time touring in search of what I knew with certainty I could find with ease in Pattaya, namely women, especially of the wanton variety. My recent 28 day trip represented an investment on my part in getting to know Pattaya. Of course there is so much of Pattaya to get to know that, in 28 days, I really only scratched the surface. With more visits under one's belt, one could start to put Uncle V's excellent blueprint into action (building up a little stable of ladies that you can repeat with, adding and subtracting girls over time), but as the last two words in that sentence make clear, it would take time.

So there it is in a nutshell: I love the blueprint, but I need more visits to put it into effect. LOL.

Now if only I could work some of that "fishes and loaves" magic on my bank account so I could afford to take more of those trips. Bigger LOL.

[Uncle Volodya]

the thing I like best about the discos is that it can sometimes approximate the experience of having seduced a girl in night club. It isn't that at all of course because the girls are there to catch you every bit as much as you are there to catch them, but it can sometimes feel like that. It certainly offers more of the illusion of a GFE than paying the bar fine for a girl or picking her up on the street. Once you're alone with the girl, the two of you will either have a GFE-like connection or you won't: it depends on chemistry and not the location of the pickup. That said, if you have had the pleasure (and enjoyed the illusion) of having "seduced" the girl over the course of a couple of hours at a night club like Insomnia or Marine or The Pier, you get the benefit of an extended (but still illusory) GFE-like experience.

It's a good opportunity to gauge the chemistry if you can read women. I have never had a bad experience when the chemistry was on in the bar. Only when I forced it and taken a girl home despite the magic not being there in the bar.

And if you hit it off you can always repeat. Call the girl and have her come to you for a nice relaxing evening. Hitting the bars till all hours gets old for me after a while and I don't want to do it every night. The key is to build up a little stable of ladies that you can repeat with, adding and subtracting girls over time.

At least this is my blueprint. LOL.

[WildBillLewis]

After shower we started f*cking. Money was not even mentioned once. But then Pattaya threw me a curve ball. Lek was tired and didn't want to fuck anymore. I hadn't even come yet. I did a quick computation in my head how to handle this, and the key fact was that the room was ours for 2 hours. So I let her sleep in my arms. It was very GFE. Then after half an hour I woke her up and started fucking her again.

I've never had a working girl sleep in my arms before making me cum during a short-time session. But I guess it's all about how you handle the curve balls in Pattaya! All in all a pleasant experience, because we had a good connection and it was as close as seducing a girl in a night club as it can possibly be.

First off, congratulations on what sounds like it was a great experience.

Second, the thing I like best about the discos is that it can sometimes approximate the experience of having seduced a girl in night club. It isn't that at all of course because the girls are there to catch you every bit as much as you are there to catch them, but it can sometimes feel like that. It certainly offers more of the illusion of a GFE than paying the bar fine for a girl or picking her up on the street. Once you're alone with the girl, the two of you will either have a GFE-like connection or you won't: it depends on chemistry and not the location of the pickup. That said, if you have had the pleasure (and enjoyed the illusion) of having "seduced" the girl over the course of a couple of hours at a night club like Insomnia or Marine or The Pier, you get the benefit of an extended (but still illusory) GFE-like experience.

Third, one of the risks with the night club pickup is that, with it being late and with the girl having gyrated on the dance floor for a couple of hours, the girl can tire (and so can the guy, for that matter). If you're dealing with a clock watching "short time" girl and / or a room that you have for only an hour, this can be a problem. If. As you did. You've got a little more flexibility, then you can take a chance, accommodate the girl, and let her rest. You probably know that researchers in the field of sleep patterns talk about "first sleep" and "second sleep", and how, before the Industrial Age, it was not at all uncommon for our ancestors to wake up in the middle of the night and do things. Of course one of the favorite things to do was fuck the person who'd been sleeping in your arms. From that perspective, the risk you took was well judged and, clearly, it paid off. On my most recent trip to Thailand, I only had a couple of liaisons that involved the play / sleep / play / sleep / play scenario, but on the trip prior to that, I found myself in that scenario quite often and really, really, really came to like it. Sounds like you had a great experience. I'm glad for you, and envious.