Pattaya Reports

[Mr Enternational]

If you really want to test your true love, go home one day and tell her you don't have anymore allowance money.
Best just to enjoy the ride and not take anything to serious.

A couple of months ago I reported on a chick who rents apartments and when I met her she said she wasn't like all the other girls and that she doesn't go with men for money. Well one morning I was leaving her house and she held her hand out and asked for money for shopping. I told her no. Haven't heard from her since.

On the other hand there are chicks who I have known for years who have still not asked me for 1 baht. I don't get too attached to anybody. I know women come and go and sometimes they even come back. (Just recently started back talking to a girlfriend from 30 years ago in 8th grade.)

If you are about money let me know up front. But don't portray yourself as one thing and turn out to be another.

[MarcoStraight]

And again, I don't understand people paying a Thai prostitute for LT. What the hell you want to do with a Thai working girl more than a couple of hours? Why should I let her sleep with me after an hour of sex? Probably I'm an old school dirty monger but I don't give them money for socialize but for them to leave afterwards. No conversation with them. Don't need to fuck the same girl 10 times in one day. They're so boring.

[Uncle Volodya]

Yes I believe you had great time. In May. Try to go there during the high season, (December to beg. Of April) , situation might be different. You said you fucked a girl 6 - 7 times in one night and she didn't asked you money for. So, unless your name is Superman, I believe you must be a good looking young fellow. This can happen, and it's exactly what I was talking about. Insomnia could be a perfect place for a young guy expecially if he looks good. You can find girls having a big sponsor already so they can choose customers and refuse many others. The typical Insomnia's customer consists of:

1) Wannabe young thai boxer (mostly french / algerians).

2) Wannabe muscled tattoed gangsters (north europe -Australia).

3) Wannabe cool DJ's look like (UK / Europe).

All these folks got in common one thing: They think ages and good look will protect them from the formula "no money no honey".

You can find a girl deciding to fuck a guy just for pleasure but this is very rare and can happen just one time. Most of the time (100 %) "don't asking money " is just tacticts. They are investing in the guy. Once he'll be in love, non chance for him to survive. I saw so many.

Well I will be there in high season (end of December) so I will have a chance to test your proposition out.

Yes he guys at Insomnia are mostly douches and I try to stay as clear of them as I can. I am not much into clubs for that and other reasons. When I do go I go in there in hunt mode. I I'd a girl. Approach. Buy a drink or two and warm her up and then have her out of there and back to my pad ASAP.

I am under no illusions that I am some kind of Brad Pitt look alike an that the ladies are in love with me. The only thing I have in common with Mr Pitt is that I am closer in age to him than to the guys you describe. But I do try and take care of myself: appearance, hygiene, the way I dress so that I am attractive to the girls also. I also have an outgoing and friendly personality and try to enjoy my time with them beyond just sex: laughing joking and just plain having fun.

I know this is not why they are going with me. But I think it does lead to better service if they are not revolted by the guy that is on top of them humping away. LOL.

No money no honey is the iron law and it applies to most girls everywhere, not only Pattaya. I know that the girl who did not ask money was expecting some, and that if I did not give it to her she would either be pissed or assume that I was in for a longtime relationship and she'd get a bigger payday later on down the road.

Stay horny my friends.

Uncle-V.

[TellAll]

Yes I believe you had great time. In May. Try to go there during the high season, (December to beg. Of April) , situation might be different. You said you fucked a girl 6 - 7 times in one night and she didn't asked you money for. So, unless your name is Superman, I believe you must be a good looking young fellow. This can happen, and it's exactly what I was talking about. Insomnia could be a perfect place for a young guy expecially if he looks good. You can find girls having a big sponsor already so they can choose customers and refuse many others. The typical Insomnia's customer consists of:

1) Wannabe young thai boxer (mostly french / algerians).

2) Wannabe muscled tattoed gangsters (north europe -Australia).

3) Wannabe cool DJ's look like (UK / Europe).

All these folks got in common one thing: They think ages and good look will protect them from the formula "no money no honey".

You can find a girl deciding to fuck a guy just for pleasure but this is very rare and can happen just one time. Most of the time (100 %) "don't asking money " is just tacticts. They are investing in the guy. Once he'll be in love, non chance for him to survive. I saw so many.

I am always amazed at guys who think these young Thai girls are in love with them and have been waiting for their old ass all their lives.

If you really want to test your true love, go home one day and tell her you don't have anymore allowance money.
Best just to enjoy the ride and not take anything to serious.

[MarcoStraight]

Marco, I respectfully disagree. I'm sure there are a lot of girls there that meet that description. But I've had a great time there. I had an amazing threesome with some girls from there in May and hooked up with two great girls form there during my August trip. One I must have fucked 6-7 times and she stayed with me until 5 PM the next day (and never even mentioned money. Though I paid her 1500). The other was among the top 3 hottest girls I have ever bedded and gave great GFE including CIM. Check my past reports for details.

Does that mean the place is a sure thing? Of course not! I've also had nights there where I haven't been able to find anyone I liked or clicked with. But its easy to just move on and there are so many other options close by if you strike out.

Stay horny my friends.

Uncle-V.

Yes I believe you had great time. In May. Try to go there during the high season, (December to beg. Of April) , situation might be different. You said you fucked a girl 6 - 7 times in one night and she didn't asked you money for. So, unless your name is Superman, I believe you must be a good looking young fellow. This can happen, and it's exactly what I was talking about. Insomnia could be a perfect place for a young guy especially if he looks good. You can find girls having a big sponsor already so they can choose customers and refuse many others. The typical Insomnia's customer consists of:

1) Wannabe young Thai boxer (mostly French / Algerians).

2) Wannabe muscled tattooed gangsters (north Europe -Australia).

3) Wannabe cool DJ's look like (UK / Europe).

All these folks got in common one thing: They think ages and good look will protect them from the formula "no money no honey".

You can find a girl deciding to fuck a guy just for pleasure but this is very rare and can happen just one time. Most of the time (100 %) "don't asking money " is just tactics. They are investing in the guy. Once he'll be in love, non chance for him to survive. I saw so many.

[MarcoStraight]

Sorry I'm completely a newbie but when you say "groups of Indians have almost no access" could you elaborate on that please? I'm an Indian American wanted to plan my first trip to Thailand so I'm just wondering.

Thanks in advance.

Don't worry my friend, basically thai people hate everybody not only indians. Together with japanese are the most racist in the world. There are body massages in Bangkok (Pertchburi road) where "only Asian are allowed" . Many regular places in Pattaya like Crocodile Farm or Pattaya Park etc. Etc. Got two prices, one for thai and one for "farangs". "Thai rak Thai" ("thai loves thai") was the name of the political party leading the nation for years. No chance to have any normal relationship with locals that is not a matter of money.

About Indians, if you go to Bangkok there are places like CM2 Discoteque or Spasso fully loaded with Russians chiks and Hi-so local prostitutes, they seem to prefer Indians, Arabs and Russians. Maybe they got some skills about new economy, they know where the big money is.

[ActionOriented]

This is not only the case in Thailand. I have been coming to Indonesia since 1991 ..
Regards,

Ko.

I am surprised to learn the situation is the same in Indonesia (Jakarta), because whilst I was in Bali, I noticed that the locals quite like Indians and I attributed that to them being Hindu (just like a majority of Indians) and having similar religious practices. May be I just saw it from one perspective. I do understand what you mean, a group of Indians tend to become a rowdy bunch soon and they will make it a point to be loud and disrespectful towards non-Indians (and this happens in many countries).

So, as a holiday venue for the "decent" monger, pattaya is heaven, if you are a VIP where it matters. Ignore the bars with the policy, move on, enjoy the music, food and build up your contacts- I am ready to give you a head start, PM me.

NM.

I think this topic gets done to death every time someone reports that they were denied entry at a particular place, I report on that quite often but only to warn ISG brethren. But being denied is no secret (I too attribute it to management and not to the girls) and like you said you just move on and build your contact database by hunting in places that are fine with us.

[NuMonger]

Yea man, totally get it, I was thinking of short trip end of Jan as well since a girl I met randomly (she gave me a lift) and works in a salon is trying to sweeten the deal. But then again can't decide and might just be stuck with just one girl for the 3 days that I am there which would be horrific.

You will understand the moment you get onto walking street / beach road. So if you are an Indian (from America or wherever) and travelling with Indians in a group let's say anything more than one will only hurt your case (fly solo), you aren't going to be allowed into most Go-Gos and a few bars. However, if you travel alone or with 'falang' friends, it should be no problem and you won't even notice the discrimination.

Yep, happens all the time and some of the local girls have picked up the typical Indian greeting and a few lines of our local cinema and make it a point to sing it out. Not sure if its them just being funny or making fun of us. Anyways, doesn't matter much, it is a fun place nevertheless, lots of options even when denied.

Guys,

I have returned to 16 " happy" trips with the LOS, in spite of being shown the palm, and the occassional cold stare at the door. I have realized that the thai people are very friendly and not racist. It is" management policy" that has been framed over many undesirable incidents involving our countrymen. Any flight in has at least one boisterous group who will surely leave a bad taste in some mamasans mouth soon, adding another red flag to the above policy!

Yes, the "decent" monger is conspicuous by travelling solo. And sought after too, but only if he is considerate and generous.

Over the many trips the phone nos in my mobile secret folder has grown, reference by ref, and the go-go crawl is only a formality.

So, as a holiday venue for the "decent" monger, pattaya is heaven, if you are a VIP where it matters. Ignore the bars with the policy, move on, enjoy the music, food and build up your contacts- I am ready to give you a head start, PM me.

NM.

[LittleBigMan]

Before someone beats me to it and I'm sure there are a few that have the urge to say it?

Can we start a " Indians in Thailand " thread?

Just joking fellas!

Enjoy!

[Member #4410]

That's very unlikely to happen, because for every "decent" Indian monger that turns up in LOS, there are 2 more of the "crap" variety that lands up due to relatively cheap airfare and package tours. Relating one instance, I had just had a session at soi 6 and hailed a baht bus to go back to my hotel and found 5 fellow country men occupying the bus, all of them as it turns out were from the same city as I was and they were being extremely loud and boisterous (and they were drunk as well). They made it a point to make the few minutes weird by imitating the thai sing-song voices and generally making fun of the locals (and they couldn't care less). Needless to say, I got off some distance from soi 13 where I was heading and walked the rest of the way. That's when I realised we are a long way from being granted unrestricted access like the 'falang' into all establishments in Pattaya. Even though groups of Indians have almost no access (except at Tony) to any of the shops on WS, they just go to Pattaya in hordes to drink themselves silly, hit on beach road girls and creating a scene wherever possible. I am looking for the silver lining in all of this, but it's hard to find one, therefore the stereotype must go on for the greater good of the locals (not that I like it one bit).

P.s. It just makes the "decent" monger have to up his game, visit alone, overpay (buying unnecessary drinks after the required 1/2) at times because people expect you to act cheap, and generally hope for the best.

This is not only the case in Thailand. I have been coming to Indonesia since 1991 and every time I have seen groups of Indians (including the very recognisable Sikhs) trawling the Jakarta bars and discos. They were not behaving very nice towards other people.

A few simple examples from my own experience:

- Check-in time at Atlet Century; guests line up to check in at a number of staff. In walks an Indian family, barges past the lines and wants to check in. The staff managed to remain polite and sent them back to the start of the line;.

- Check-in at Atlet Century; an Indian family checks in and wants to pay a deposit with some extremely decrepit dollar bills. The staff does not accept these bills (hotel policy) whereupon the Indian matron asks "Do YOU have a problem with these bills?" No, the lady did not, but hotel policy did.

I started to understand why people dislike Indians.

Regards,

Ko.

[JesseJames]

Buddy where are welcome?

Most of the places hate us, Europe, USA, Asia.

For the few bretheren, we all face hell and havoc.

Indians always seem to stroll around in groups of 4. Why don't you guys try splitting up and try going around alone?

[Wandere]

Being an Indian myself I'm not surprised why we get discriminated in Thailand! I have seen how we Indians behave and I have learned my lessons now I travel alone to Thailand!! So far never faced any issue entering clubs planing a trip this Jan!

Buddy where are welcome?

Most of the places hate us, Europe, USA, Asia.

For the few bretheren, we all face hell and havoc.

[ActionOriented]

Being an Indian myself I'm not surprised why we get discriminated in Thailand! I have seen how we Indians behave and I have learned my lessons now I travel alone to Thailand!! So far never faced any issue entering clubs planing a trip this Jan!

Yea man, totally get it, I was thinking of short trip end of Jan as well since a girl I met randomly (she gave me a lift) and works in a salon is trying to sweeten the deal. But then again can't decide and might just be stuck with just one girl for the 3 days that I am there which would be horrific.

Sorry I'm completely a newbie but when you say "groups of Indians have almost no access" could you elaborate on that please? I'm an Indian American wanted to plan my first trip to Thailand so I'm just wondering.

Thanks in advance.

You will understand the moment you get onto walking street / beach road. So if you are an Indian (from America or wherever) and travelling with Indians in a group let's say anything more than one will only hurt your case (fly solo), you aren't going to be allowed into most Go-Gos and a few bars. However, if you travel alone or with 'falang' friends, it should be no problem and you won't even notice the discrimination.

I asked one of the ladies at our bar what is going on and she said, "Men No Good".

Yep, happens all the time and some of the local girls have picked up the typical Indian greeting and a few lines of our local cinema and make it a point to sing it out. Not sure if its them just being funny or making fun of us. Anyways, doesn't matter much, it is a fun place nevertheless, lots of options even when denied.

[Feelz Good]

FYI. Just two weeks ago a buddy and I were sitting at one of the 10-12 bars that back up to the water, I think one of bars facing walking street says Frog something across from Sugar Babies. Anyway, we were enjoying our beers and having fun watching all the girls scream at that the guys walking in trying to get them to come to their bar. They held up signs like, "Free Blow Job", "Fuck me tonight pay me tomorrow", etc. As the guy or group of guys walked in these ladies would scream their lungs out to try to get the attentions of the new prospective customers walking in. Well, we watched this for well over an hour laughing with girls and watching the reaction of the prospective new customers. Then, a group of 5-6 Indians walked in and you could hear a pin drop, every girl in all the bars, I guess about 80-100 ladies, ignored the Indians like they were not even there. I asked one of the ladies at our bar what is going on and she said, "Men No Good".

That's very unlikely to happen, because for every "decent" Indian monger that turns up in LOS, there are 2 more of the "crap" variety that lands up due to relatively cheap airfare and package tours. Relating one instance, I had just had a session at soi 6 and hailed a baht bus to go back to my hotel and found 5 fellow country men occupying the bus, all of them as it turns out were from the same city as I was and they were being extremely loud and boisterous (and they were drunk as well). They made it a point to make the few minutes weird by imitating the thai sing-song voices and generally making fun of the locals (and they couldn't care less). Needless to say, I got off some distance from soi 13 where I was heading and walked the rest of the way. That's when I realised we are a long way from being granted unrestricted access like the 'falang' into all establishments in Pattaya. Even though groups of Indians have almost no access (except at Tony) to any of the shops on WS, they just go to Pattaya in hordes to drink themselves silly, hit on Beach Road girls and creating a scene wherever possible. I am looking for the silver lining in all of this, but it's hard to find one, therefore the stereotype must go on for the greater good of the locals (not that I like it one bit).

P.s. It just makes the "decent" monger have to up his game, visit alone, overpay (buying unnecessary drinks after the required 1-2) at times because people expect you to act cheap, and generally hope for the best.

[OfficialKnight]

That's very unlikely to happen, because for every "decent" Indian monger that turns up in LOS, there are 2 more of the "crap" variety that lands up due to relatively cheap airfare and package tours. Relating one instance, I had just had a session at soi 6 and hailed a baht bus to go back to my hotel and found 5 fellow country men occupying the bus, all of them as it turns out were from the same city as I was and they were being extremely loud and boisterous (and they were drunk as well). They made it a point to make the few minutes weird by imitating the thai sing-song voices and generally making fun of the locals (and they couldn't care less). Needless to say, I got off some distance from soi 13 where I was heading and walked the rest of the way. That's when I realised we are a long way from being granted unrestricted access like the 'falang' into all establishments in Pattaya. Even though groups of Indians have almost no access (except at Tony) to any of the shops on WS, they just go to Pattaya in hordes to drink themselves silly, hit on beach road girls and creating a scene wherever possible. I am looking for the silver lining in all of this, but it's hard to find one, therefore the stereotype must go on for the greater good of the locals (not that I like it one bit).

P.s. It just makes the "decent" monger have to up his game, visit alone, overpay (buying unnecessary drinks after the required 1/2) at times because people expect you to act cheap, and generally hope for the best.

Sorry I'm completely a newbie but when you say "groups of Indians have almost no access" could you elaborate on that please? I'm an Indian American wanted to plan my first trip to Thailand so I'm just wondering.

Thanks in advance.