Pattaya Reports

[Marcos]

Visited Rasputin massage today in the afternoon. Perhaps was a bit early in the day because there were only around 20 girls in the line up. Selected a girl with good racks and paid the 2000 BT fee. She led me to the room which was clean and she started preparing the tub for soapy. Nice rub but strangely she did not allow me to fondle her much and kept my hands away. Not a good sign and anyways I enjoyed the soapy. Moving on to the bed, she gave a mechanical BBBJ and even here was resisting my hand when I tried to touch her boobs! Did cowgirl, missionary and doggy when I finished. The girl had good tight body but the attitude was crap and that spoilt the pleasure. I think most of the girls in soapies have the same attitude as I had experienced the same in Honey's massage in my previous trip.

Try this next time, at the very first sign of attitude get up and get dressed, demand another girl or refund.

It will teach fhe girl a lesson and renew your chances of a normal session.

[Viking17]

Visited Rasputin massage today in the afternoon. Perhaps was a bit early in the day because there were only around 20 girls in the line up. Selected a girl with good racks and paid the 2000 BT fee. She led me to the room which was clean and she started preparing the tub for soapy. Nice rub but strangely she did not allow me to fondle her much and kept my hands away. Not a good sign and anyways I enjoyed the soapy. Moving on to the bed, she gave a mechanical BBBJ and even here was resisting my hand when I tried to touch her boobs! Did cowgirl, missionary and doggy when I finished. The girl had good tight body but the attitude was crap and that spoilt the pleasure. I think most of the girls in soapies have the same attitude as I had experienced the same in Honey's massage in my previous trip.

[Marcos]

Hobbyst2, your is a well written report with good information. I had never knew about breakfast time barfines, but then again I don't know squat about bars. You have also paid very little. Good that Pattaya has worked for you.

Irony just as I had finished writing, the lost nympho unexpectedly called, we'll see if she can deliver a solid farewell. If not, mai pen rai.

[Hobbyist2]

I usually don't try to rationalize Thai logic, but I have asked some of the ladies what they want in a boyfriend. My take in most cases from what they tell me is the boyfriend to some BGs means you take care of me and I take care of you. The boyfriend provides the financial part. That would include her kids if any and maybe even the parents. The lady provides sex and cooking and cleaning. That is about all she has to offer. Whether there is real love or not on their part is another issue. Especially when a twenty something lady hooks up with a guy pushing sixty or even older. How long it lasts is another issue.

Every time I am in the P4P scene, I notice the ladies situation. Many times begging for customers. Most of the time going with complete strangers they have no interest in and doing all kinds of sex acts with them. The better looking ones have more choices, but the older ones usually get stuck with the less desirable customers. Of course there are exceptions. With that for a life and to look forward everyday to that, it doesn't surprise me that a BG would want a "boyfriend" who she may barely know. They are not looking at it the way westerners do. Of course not every man they meet is one who they would want for a boyfriend.

I was writing the above post while you guys posted yours. I think we are on the same page.

[Hobbyist2]

With all respect for the legitimate wishes of those ladies (any lady would like to get out of the P4P scene unless she rates the sex side of it as a priority) I think they are looking more for an escape route and a financial set down routine, rather than a boyfriend.

How can one think to hook up as boy / girl friends after a couple of hours of mutual knowledge in the bed (reached through money being paid and received). Doesn't have to be a love book romance, but usually a boy / girlfriend relationship happens after sometime the two know each other. Not after a BF and LT affair. With difficult communications too.

I usually don't try to rationalize Thai logic, but I have asked some of the ladies what they want in a boyfriend. My take in most cases from what they tell me is the boyfriend to some BGs means you take care of me and I take care of you. The boyfriend provides the financial part. That would include her kids if any and maybe even the parents. The lady provides sex and cooking and cleaning. That is about all she has to offer. Whether there is real love or not on their part is another issue. Especially when a twenty something lady hooks up with a guy pushing sixty or even older. How long it lasts is another issue.

Every time I am in the P4P scene, I notice the ladies situation. Many times begging for customers. Most of the time going with complete strangers they have no interest in and doing all kinds of sex acts with them. The better looking ones have more choices, but the older ones usually get stuck with the less desirable customers. Of course there are exceptions. With that for a life and to look forward everyday to that, it doesn't surprise me that a BG would want a "boyfriend" who she may barely know. They are not looking at it the way westerners do. Of course not every man they meet is one who they would want for a boyfriend.

[BionicMan]

In short, when a Thai hooker (and many regular Thai women) says she wants a boyfriend she means a guy to take care of her. If you keep going and ask what does taking care of them entail they will tell you making sure they and their family have everything they need. So, to them a boyfriend means some guy who gives them money on a regular basis. It has nothing to do with the western lovey-dovey sense of girlfiend-boyfriend.

Exactly, you summed it up!

[Mr Enternational]

In short, when a Thai hooker (and many regular Thai women) says she wants a boyfriend she means a guy to take care of her. If you keep going and ask what does taking care of them entail they will tell you making sure they and their family have everything they need. So, to them a boyfriend means some guy who gives them money on a regular basis. It has nothing to do with the western lovey-dovey sense of girlfriend-boyfriend.

[BionicMan]

I recently returned from a 2 1/2 month stay in Thailand.

She told me she was looking for a BF. I told her I am too old and she says no, I like older men.

One thing I noticed this trip more than before was the number of ladies looking for boy friends. They want to get out of the bar thing.

There is a Lab in Pattaya I used that does various blood tests.

With all respect for the legitimate wishes of those ladies (any lady would like to get out of the P4P scene unless she rates the sex side of it as a priority) I think they are looking more for an escape route and a financial set down routine, rather than a boyfriend.

How can one think to hook up as boy / girl friends after a couple of hours of mutual knowledge in the bed (reached through money being paid and received). Doesn't have to be a love book romance, but usually a boy / girlfriend relationship happens after sometime the two know each other. Not after a BF and LT affair. With difficult communications too.

Good info on the lab.

[Hobbyist2]

I recently returned from a 2 1/2 month stay in Thailand. One month was living with a Thai lady in her home in Bangkok, but that's another story. I was inspired to write after reading Marcos' report. I am not going to write every detail, but will add a few experiences.

My time in Pattaya was great. I had many ladies and not one on this trip was a disappointment. The only thing I did not like was the weather. The worst I have experienced in Thailand in all my trips. Keeping in mind that I arrived about mid Sept and left near the end of November (Sept & Oct being the months with most rain).

One day I was walking down 2nd Road and saw this lady with beautiful legs. This was about 8:30 am. I believe the bar was Irish Rover. If you walked up soi 12 from Beach Road and crossed 2nd Road you would be close to the bar. I went to Au Bon Pan for breakfast and then walked back to the bar with legs in it. When I arrived she was sitting at the bar eating, so I got a drink and when she finished eating she walked around and I asked if she wanted to play pool which she did. The lady behind the bar asks me if I want to bar fine her. This is before 9:00 am. I said maybe and kept playing pool. The lady I'm playing pool with speaks very little English, so communicating is difficult at best. The other lady keeps trying to get me to bar fine this gal and I'm planning to do it, but it is early. I then ask how much for bar fine and she says 300 B. She then tells me that some pay 1000. 1500 for LT with the lady. Now this lady has on a mini skirt and those legs just keep getting my attention so I said that I would give her 1000 for LT and if she did a good job I would tip her. I pay bar fine and legs (I don't remember her name) and I head for my room.

Get back to the room and after cleaning up hit the bed for some very fine sexercise. This lady can't speak much English, but she made up for it in the sack. I was not at all disappointed with her. Now I had her for the rest of the day and all night. Slept for awhile and went to C. F. To MK for lunch and killed some time in there and back to the room. She had a Thai / English phrase book with her and she was reading it and using it to communicate with me. To make this shorter, there was more activity in bed and again the next morning and when she was ready to leave she opened the book and showed me where it said "it was very nice to meet you". The feeling was mutual. What a sweet lady.

Was walking down soi Buakao and one lady standing out front of her bar was asking me to come in. I decided to check her out. She was kind of young maybe 24. She wanted me to bar fine her and I was not really sure if I wanted to, but in the end I did. The problem was she couldn't speak much English either. Oh well. 300 B bf and 1000 LT and back to the room we go. Same same, clean up and into the bed. She was another fine choice as she took care of me with nice BBBJ and good sex. No issues with kissing and no attitude at all.

She told me she was looking for a BF. I told her I am too old and she says no, I like older men. She is using her phone to translate as she doesn't know much English and I don't know much Thai. I think she really thought I would be interested, but in the morning after another great session, I just walked her to the door and handed her the money as she left.

One thing I noticed this trip more than before was the number of ladies looking for boy friends. They want to get out of the bar thing. I met a lot of ladies and not just the ones I took to my room who either hinted or outright asked if I was looking for a girlfriend. Maybe since it was toward the end of low season and a dry spell for them as there were fewer customers or maybe I really am a hansum man. It really was brought up more than any previous trips.

I took numerous ladies from Beach Road and other bars, but one B. R. Lady really stood out. She was not the most beautiful, but was attractive and was hot in bed. Her name is Jane. Maybe some of you ran into her. She said she is from Bangkok and said she was on vacation. She also told me what she does for a living, but no way could I verify it or did I even care. She also told me something I didn't know and that is there is a pool on the roof of Mike's Shopping Mall. She said you can use the pool all day for 100 Baht. If you have a room with no pool and you want to swim, there is an option.

Now Jane is a hot lady. I usually don't cum quickly. Of course there are exceptions to that. However I sometimes just quit cause the lady had enough and I know it will be awhile before I can finish. With that I was banging away on Jane and she finished and then I finished and I was thinking of going to sleep soon and then Jane starts playing with my dick and then starts going down on me again. This was within 15 minutes of me just banging her. This lady is 40 years old and has an 18 year old son in college. I was dead tired from walking all over Pattaya as I usually do, so I just wanted to sleep. She was really disappointed and I said in the morning and I rolled over and went to sleep. In the morning Jane was ready to go. She is playing with my dick and sucking it and of course I was ready to go as I love morning sex. That is why I do mostly LTs.

There were more ladies and also trips to Philippines and Cambodia for visa runs. I even took my Thai lady from Bangkok to Cambodia with me. That was an experience. I also have come to like Bangkok much more than before as I had a great time there before and after my time with the Thai lady I was with for a month. I may write a report later on those experiences in the other forums.

There is a Lab in Pattaya I used that does various blood tests. You can get cholesterol testing and many other tests including STD tests. If you are thinking about a GF, you may want to go there to get her tested or get yourself tested if you are concerned about anything. They even do the HIV DNA by PCR test for 3000 B. I would assume cheaper than the hospital and more private, but never had any tests done at the hospital. Although they send out those samples. Much more expensive here for that.

The lab is between 2nd Road and Beach Road. If you are on soi 6 and walking towards 2nd Road go left and at the 7/11 go left. Follow that little alley until you come to an opening where you will see what once may have been a water fountain. Keep left and you will see a number of shops on the left. Go to the last one and that is the lab. From there you can continue down to Beach Road.

The only thing they ask for is your name and age and they don't ask for any kind of verification. You can also call for results or email (I wouldn't). They will also give you documented results if you want. Syph and Gon cost 100 B each and results are in an hour. I think the HIV quick test is 400 B. Herp, I think is 700.

[Member #4698]

Things have dramatically changed from only two or three years ago. [snip] most mediocre, with all the variations, from the blowjob refusal, to the analphabet yaba taker, all that within the strict bounds of modest looks, despite my efforts. What must be remarked is that apparently even ugly fat old women do not have too much problem in getting a customer. I will spare the details, no story is really worth to be told. The most I paid was 1500 to a girl that really did her best.

The only alternative way that I can think of would have been to visit a different gogo bar every night as early as possibls (good ones get barfined quickly) , making no issue of money, and hoping to find a repeatable one to stick with. Unfortunately I cannot see myself betting some thousand dollars on such an experiment, even if in hindsight it would have made more sense.

Conclusion, it's time to move on. I'm not bothered by having to go home this time.

Wow! This is a real gloom and doom report. I hope you don't mind if I remain skeptical. I always seem to find fun girls in Pattaya. But then I am willing to pay the market rate which is now 2000bt ST for a Go Go girl and considerably less for a Soi Six bar girl. I was never much interested in Coconut FL's although I like to walk Beach Road every night to see who is out and about. Anyway, I will be back in LOS in mid March so I will see for myself what is going on. By the way, the Bhat keeps falling which is good. I see it is now 32. 35 per dollar. When I was last in Thailand it was 29. 85 per dollar. Every little bit helps.

Marcos, the only thing I can say to you is, if you are unhappy with things in Thailand, maybe it is time for you to consider a trip to the PI. I started going to the PI in 2011. It was great. I now make it a regular part of my itinerary every time I swing through South East Asia. The girls are not quite as pretty as Thai girls (on average) , but they sure are friendly as in GFE. It is remarkable and palpable their difference from Thai girls. And Makati excepted, prices are very user friendly. Yeah, don't hesitate. Check it out. But remember, in order to receive great service you have to treat the girls nice and make them feel good to be with you. Another bonus to visiting the PI is that their beaches are better and less touristy than Thai beaches. I am talking about places like Sabang, Port Barton, and El Nido, Palawan. It's simple; find a good girl in AC or Subic and take her with you to the beach for a little holiday.

NB

[Goatscrot]

I still have three nights before leaving but the balance can be seen and is grim. I stayed a total of six weeks interrupted by a business trip, during this entire time I had nothing that really worth it. Things have dramatically changed from only two or three years ago. Peak experience was two shags with the isaan nympho before her new guy, owner of a very popular night club, found out. All the rest was at most mediocre, with all the variations, from the blowjob refusal, to the analphabet yaba taker, all that within the strict bounds of modest looks, despite my efforts. What must be remarked is that apparently even ugly fat old women do not have too much problem in getting a customer. I will spare the details, no story is really worth to be told. The most I paid was 1500 to a girl that really did her best.

The only alternative way that I can think of would have been to visit a different gogo bar every night as early as possibls (good ones get barfined quickly) , making no issue of money, and hoping to find a repeatable one to stick with. Unfortunately I cannot see myself betting some thousand dollars on such an experiment, even if in hindsight it would have made more sense.

Conclusion, it's time to move on. I'm not bothered by having to go home this time.

You have summed up P4P in Thailand, not just Pattaya.

[Member #4698]

What do you mean by "agogos [that] are well known ripoffs"? If you mean high price bars that's one thing, but if you mean bars where bills are padded or where girls have a history of not performing that is entirely different. For example, Whats Up is a very expensive Go Go, but I don't consider it a ripoff bar because they do not conceal their prices and the place has some very beautiful girls and a good party atmosphere. I like What's Up and when I chose to go there I know it is going to be an expensive night, but I also know it is going to be a great night. On the other hand, rippoff bars where something shady is going on, sorry, I can't help you because I do not know of any.

Here is a short list of quality Go Go's. Prices vary as well as quality of the girls. I am not saying you are going to like every one of these bars. Your tastes and my tastes probably differ. Great girls leave bars and new girls are always being added to the lineup. I suggest you conduct a barhop on your first couple of nights in town and discover for yourself which bars you like the best. The thrill is in the hunt.

Baccara, Airport, Babydolls, What's up, Happy, Sapphire, Heavens Above, Angelwitch, Super Girl, Living Dolls Showcase, Windmill, Queen Club, and Champagne

[Awesome Man]

Going to Pattaya for the first time, and I know that the city is packed with agogos. Everbody has its own favourite, but which agogos are well known ripoffs to been avoid?

[Marcos]

I still have three nights before leaving but the balance can be seen and is grim. I stayed a total of six weeks interrupted by a business trip, during this entire time I had nothing that really worth it. Things have dramatically changed from only two or three years ago. Peak experience was two shags with the isaan nympho before her new guy, owner of a very popular night club, found out. All the rest was at most mediocre, with all the variations, from the blowjob refusal, to the analphabet yaba taker, all that within the strict bounds of modest looks, despite my efforts. What must be remarked is that apparently even ugly fat old women do not have too much problem in getting a customer. I will spare the details, no story is really worth to be told. The most I paid was 1500 to a girl that really did her best.

The only alternative way that I can think of would have been to visit a different gogo bar every night as early as possibls (good ones get barfined quickly) , making no issue of money, and hoping to find a repeatable one to stick with. Unfortunately I cannot see myself betting some thousand dollars on such an experiment, even if in hindsight it would have made more sense.

Conclusion, it's time to move on. I'm not bothered by having to go home this time.

[Johnthescot]

Funny thing is they never have a problem paying for said drinks and on many occasions girls I know buy me drinks as well. Don't forget there are farang / Thai prices for certain drinks too. A friend of mine called herself buying drinks for me and a wingman a couple of months ago. She was shocked when the bill came with the farang price. That is why if I want to buy a girl a drink I slide her 100 baht and let her order it and pay for it herself.

Good call. I've had girls tell me to do same. Give them the money and they order their own drinks. Can't really get them to do yours too though as that will really [CodeWord140] bar off. Cool when you get a girl like that that's trying to look after you. Guess if you are a decent guy and look after them then a lot of them will do the same back.

JohnTheScot