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  1. #6924
    Quote Originally Posted by Amjeck  [View Original Post]
    See everyone is different.

    I could never be ok with an ugly in the dark. If you want hot young girls in Pat nowdays, you have to work at it and be very strategic on where you hunt and know how to deal with competition. Speaking Thai helps tremendously also. Pattaya is more competitive then ever and quality versus prices is messed up. Is it still worth visiting? Sure, but just don't expect everything to fall in your lap.
    Agreed. No matter how dark it is I just can't handle grabbing hold of large amounts of flesh. I bought a Thai language DVD from Mike Shopping Mall. I hope to learn a few basic sentences that will help me next time.

  2. #6923
    Quote Originally Posted by Amjeck  [View Original Post]
    See everyone is different.

    I could never be ok with an ugly in the dark. If you want hot young girls in Pat nowdays, you have to work at it and be very strategic on where you hunt and know how to deal with competition. Speaking Thai helps tremendously also. Pattaya is more competitive then ever and quality versus prices is messed up. Is it still worth visiting? Sure, but just don't expect everything to fall in your lap.
    I agree. I couldn't go all the way to Pattaya just to bang uglies when I can do that here in NY. I like them cute not ugly and not gorgeous. The gorgeous ones are usually the most problems cause they think they can walk over you and hope you quiver. Fuck that. We are the ones with the money so we are the bosses as long as there is respect on both sides.

    Just off topic a bit, what are the going prices now for BF, LT AND ST. I see alot of crazy amounts. Is it because now is the high season. I will be heading out there in May which according to hotel rates is Low Season.

  3. #6922
    Quote Originally Posted by LukeSkyWanker  [View Original Post]
    ok quality is limited but they all look good in the dark and a sterling performance is what matters.
    See everyone is different.

    I could never be ok with an ugly in the dark. If you want hot young girls in Pat nowdays, you have to work at it and be very strategic on where you hunt and know how to deal with competition. Speaking Thai helps tremendously also. Pattaya is more competitive then ever and quality versus prices is messed up. Is it still worth visiting? Sure, but just don't expect everything to fall in your lap.

  4. #6921
    Quote Originally Posted by lucky lukey  [View Original Post]
    honestly, i'd rather stay in america than travel half way across the world and pay thousands of dollars for airfare just to fuck 7s. you don't have to leave your home country to do that lol.
    you need to relax, lucky lukey.

    your approach to pattaya is all wrong. you're missing out on all the fun. i've read your reports. you sound desperate. it's like you have a sign tattooed on your forehead that says: victim. girls are picking up bad vibes from you. they put up with a lot of bad vibes from young guys who play mind games and expect too much from them. that's why most of them prefer to deal with relaxed older guys like me.

    your first mistake was looking for long time gfe with 8's and 9's from the moment you arrived. what you should have done first thing after checking in to your hotel was a visit to [CodeWord901]'s for a blowjob from a girl whose only professional purpose in life is to give blowjobs to horny farangs. granted, they aren't 8's or 9's, but they will happily take the edge off for you right now; no bullshit, arguing, chit-chat, shopping, or other nonsense, for 700baht. many of them even swallow. you won't get that on craig's list for $23. and you don't get long time gfe from 7's on craig's list for $100.

    once you got the edge off, you can slow down, relax, and take your time to discover all the delights pattaya has to offer. there are thousands of attractive young girls here. almost all of them are available; even waitresses and shop girls. getting good sex from girls you want in pattaya is like ordering pizza in the usa. here the girls approach you. you can't walk down the street without getting lots of smiles and invitations for more.

    go to a massage joint for an oily with happy ending in the afternoons. that will cost you maybe 500 baht for 2 hours, and take care of your desperation so you can visit the go-go bars at night and take your time looking for stunners who show interest in you. don't chase girls who aren't into you. you can usually tell if a lady is interested or not.

    never take a girl long time until you've experienced her short time. that's a cardinal rule of successful mongering. most of the nightmare reports i've read about on this forum have involved guys getting stuck long time with starfish or psycho's they didn't bother to get to know before making the deal.

    this is paradise on earth compared to the usa when it comes to pretty young girls and sex for peanuts. all you need to have is a good relaxed attitude and a little money to enjoy them.

  5. #6920

    Indecision for Lucky Lucky

    Sounds a bit like what happens to me sometimes when I am in Pattaya, I look around for the "perfect girl" for me and pass by on some good ladies, when I go back I am too late. I would suggest don't try too hard just let things happen and they will, certainly in Pattaya. Try hunting a little bit off the beaten track, there are some bars on 2nd road in between soi Diana and soi 8 which are always quiet and the girls are desperate for a bar fine, ok quality is limited but they all look good in the dark and a sterling performance is what matters. I am in Pattaya in 10 days so try not to fuck it up too much.

    May the force be with you.

  6. #6919
    Question: with the crazy *****, was she lying when she said that if she's supposed to start at 3 and comes at 6 then she has to pay the barfing for 3-6 herself if she's late because of LT the night before? Also if in the future I LT someone and they're still here in the morning, should I tell them right away that I'm not paying LT for another day? Because this chick wanted to stay fir the day again and surely a big part of her getting mad was that I politely said no to another 1500.

  7. #6918
    Quote Originally Posted by Beaverhunter  [View Original Post]
    I agree totally with mouse 1. If you get the bad vibe early abandon ship quickly and look elsewhere their are plenty out there if your willing to compromise alittle. My suggestion to lucky is to talk to the mammasans first for what you are looking for and expect and she will point you in the right direction out of the girls she has working. Even buy her a drink to get on her good side. This way if there is more problems maybe she will rectify the problem with the recommended girl. Remember the gogo girls do have to answer the mamasan.

    Good luck the rest of your trip Beaverhunter
    Thanks. I'll update you guys tomorrow!

  8. #6917
    Quote Originally Posted by Chachi420  [View Original Post]
    Lucky Lukey, just remember Pattaya is a buyer's market.

    As soon as a girl shows attitude, or a compulsion to control proceedings, just calmly and politely decline her company and move on.

    I would much rather waste a barfine, than humour an arrogant hooker.

    As for the screamer. What a nutjob!

    I've had a couple of close shaves with these types, but have managed to pick-up on the signs and ditched them before getting to the room.

    Don't give up, you've just been unlucky.

    Remember to be polite and friendly, but most importantly remember YOU are in control.
    Thanks man, I'm sure tomorrow will be better. .

  9. #6916
    Quote Originally Posted by Opebo  [View Original Post]
    You're exactly right Lukey, the rational for travel to Thailand is nothing compared to what it was years ago as prices have come down in the USA and rocketed upwards in Thailand, and perhaps more importantly as quality has plummeted in the LOS. Its all the process of development. Just follow what happened in Korea over the last decades, or Japan long before that. Our days of fun in this country are essentially drawing to a close right now.

    Your report about the rude girls sounded familiar to me. Not that the girls I engage are ever rude to me (I speak Thai a bit, am 'localized', and only deal with 5s or 6s) , but I have often witnessed girls speaking incredibly rudely and disrespectfully to their farang victims. I could never put up with that.
    .

    That sucks but I think you're right. What country has still got?

  10. #6915
    Quote Originally Posted by Mouse1  [View Original Post]
    All this 7, 8.9 stuff is garbage really, and one man's 5 is another man's 9. In my opinion there is either a 'yes' or a 'no', and for me it is usually about figure and physique rather than face. But more important is attitude.

    The reason I come to Thailand is to have sexual experiences with nice girls who offer a GFE. For the cost of a short visit to Thailand I can probably have more sexual acts with bored hookers in the UK who make it very clear that it's a business transaction. Fine if that floats your boat. In Thailand I can (usually) find someone who gives every impression of enjoying sex and wanting to be with me. Yopu can have a laugh and a joke with them, they're not watching the clock, and a few little gestures of kindness can make a big difference.

    Sounds like you had some pretty bad experiences there, and I guess you were just plain unlucky. Hopefully things will improve. The only advice I can give is that if things start to go wrong, cut your losses and cut loose. If you start off with a bad vibe then you won't enjoy it. And that means finding a girl relatively early, so that if things don't work out then you have enough time to go out and look for another.
    Thanks, good advice man.

  11. #6914
    Quote Originally Posted by Amjeck  [View Original Post]
    When you break it down like that I'd have to agree with you.

    What is even more mind boggling is that guys spend $120 / night in hotel in Pat only to bring take a girl back who is a 4-6. Why not switch it around? Stay in a cheaper place and spend the rest on a 8 or 9?
    Insane, man. I see some decent looking dudes paying for girls who are uglier than ones they could get at home for free, and without having to pay for hotel, flight, etc. Insane, just insane.

  12. #6913

    Advice for Lucky

    I agree totally with mouse 1. If you get the bad vibe early abandon ship quickly and look elsewhere their are plenty out there if your willing to compromise alittle. My suggestion to lucky is to talk to the mammasans first for what you are looking for and expect and she will point you in the right direction out of the girls she has working. Even buy her a drink to get on her good side. This way if there is more problems maybe she will rectify the problem with the recommended girl. Remember the gogo girls do have to answer the mamasan.

    Good luck the rest of your trip Beaverhunter

  13. #6912
    Lucky Lukey, just remember Pattaya is a buyer's market.

    As soon as a girl shows attitude, or a compulsion to control proceedings, just calmly and politely decline her company and move on.

    I would much rather waste a barfine, than humour an arrogant hooker.

    As for the screamer. What a nutjob!

    I've had a couple of close shaves with these types, but have managed to pick-up on the signs and ditched them before getting to the room.

    Don't give up, you've just been unlucky.

    Remember to be polite and friendly, but most importantly remember YOU are in control.

  14. #6911
    Quote Originally Posted by Lucky Lukey  [View Original Post]
    I mean 7s are on Craigslist etc for $100 ST so you could nail 20 for the price of airfare, and probably 40-50 for the total cost of airfare, hotel, etc.
    You're exactly right Lukey, the rational for travel to Thailand is nothing compared to what it was years ago as prices have come down in the USA and rocketed upwards in Thailand, and perhaps more importantly as quality has plummeted in the LOS. Its all the process of development. Just follow what happened in Korea over the last decades, or Japan long before that. Our days of fun in this country are essentially drawing to a close right now.

    Your report about the rude girls sounded familiar to me. Not that the girls I engage are ever rude to me (I speak Thai a bit, am 'localized', and only deal with 5s or 6s) , but I have often witnessed girls speaking incredibly rudely and disrespectfully to their farang victims. I could never put up with that.

  15. #6910
    Quote Originally Posted by Lucky Lukey  [View Original Post]
    Honestly, I'd rather stay in America than travel half way across the world and pay thousands of dollars for airfare just to fuck 7s. You don't have to leave your home country to do that LOL.
    All this 7, 8.9 stuff is garbage really, and one man's 5 is another man's 9. In my opinion there is either a 'yes' or a 'no', and for me it is usually about figure and physique rather than face. But more important is attitude.

    The reason I come to Thailand is to have sexual experiences with nice girls who offer a GFE. For the cost of a short visit to Thailand I can probably have more sexual acts with bored hookers in the UK who make it very clear that it's a business transaction. Fine if that floats your boat. In Thailand I can (usually) find someone who gives every impression of enjoying sex and wanting to be with me. Yopu can have a laugh and a joke with them, they're not watching the clock, and a few little gestures of kindness can make a big difference.

    Sounds like you had some pretty bad experiences there, and I guess you were just plain unlucky. Hopefully things will improve. The only advice I can give is that if things start to go wrong, cut your losses and cut loose. If you start off with a bad vibe then you won't enjoy it. And that means finding a girl relatively early, so that if things don't work out then you have enough time to go out and look for another.

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