Pattaya Reports

[Streetlooker]

One of the perennial hazards of the Pattaya Visit, whether it be a three-day jaunt from Bangkok or other parts of Thailand, or the two-week sex-fest coming from the Bad Place, is the dreaded Pattaya Disease. Retarded (or Delayed) Ejaculation.

I for one almost never experience this problem in the upcountry, having sex perhaps 3 times a week, but in Pattaya, having sex 2-3 times every day, it does happen sometimes. You know the feeling. You resolve 'tonight I'll just go for a stroll, have a bite to eat, some internet, and save it for tomorrow'. But then some cute girl tempts you, and you think, damn, in a few days I'll be back where there just aren't all these choices, and so you go for a short-time, but at the end of 45 minutes or an hour of intensive boom-booming, you have to give up unrelieved.

I suppose its in the nature of our condition. Living in places where life is dull and visiting the Good Place only rarely. Feast or Famine tests the limits of our physiology. Does anyone here have stories or advice regarding the predicament?

I call it fucked out you only produce so much cum and the older you get to longer it takes to fill back up. What I do is get the rest of my body taken care of with a massage let JR rest a bit

[Opebo]

One of the perennial hazards of the Pattaya Visit, whether it be a three-day jaunt from Bangkok or other parts of Thailand, or the two-week sex-fest coming from the Bad Place, is the dreaded Pattaya Disease. Retarded (or Delayed) Ejaculation.

I for one almost never experience this problem in the upcountry, having sex perhaps 3 times a week, but in Pattaya, having sex 2-3 times every day, it does happen sometimes. You know the feeling. You resolve 'tonight I'll just go for a stroll, have a bite to eat, some internet, and save it for tomorrow'. But then some cute girl tempts you, and you think, damn, in a few days I'll be back where there just aren't all these choices, and so you go for a short-time, but at the end of 45 minutes or an hour of intensive boom-booming, you have to give up unrelieved.

I suppose its in the nature of our condition. Living in places where life is dull and visiting the Good Place only rarely. Feast or Famine tests the limits of our physiology. Does anyone here have stories or advice regarding the predicament?

[Wanderlust]

hey gents. it's been awhile. you youngsters do so well with your reports that i only now need to "chip in" when there is something un-usual to report. something not generally discussed here. something completely and utterly. well. normal. something devoid of. dare i say it? yup. sex!

i have often thought that this forum could use a section devoted to old men. we could talk about all sorts of things not easy to locate by doing a search of our forum. things like food. sleeping. the rising cost of mush and oatmeal.

in this case i'd like to talk about a really good thai massage i had last week off pattaya south road. no sex just good straight up old fashion bone crushing and muscle ripping as only the thai can do. now it is true that one can get a few "extra's" at about half the traditional thai massage joints if you just ask and pay a nice tip but in this case, at this particular shop you wouldn't want to do this. on account of the old broad is about 70 or so. but i got to say guys that this old gal can still make you wimper! even cry, it feels so good. i ain't jokin'.

just so we are clear (sometimes with one track mind perv's one must repeat themselves) i am talking about a legitimate thai massage. all you guys should at least try one, and this is the place becuase she is really talanted and cheap and easy to find. but bear in mind it's just one-two old lady s so you should be prepared to wait your turn if she already has a walk in client. but again it is worth the wait. as an alternative i have included her phone number. please don't delete this just becuase i have included a number. look at my prior posts and you will easily see i am not a spammer. i am just bringing to the attention of members a really good deal on an excellent massage. also when you see this gal you'll know i couldn't possibly be involved with her in that way. hopefully this post will remain for others who love thia massage to try out. i personally get a massage nearly every day so i have been to a hundred or more massage shops over the years and this gal really excells. she even fixed a cronic back ache which only one other has been able to do before.

ok, so the price is 120 baht for 1 full hour. thats $4 folks. most massage ladys are given a tip as well if they do a decent job. usually in the range of 40-80 baht per hour.

location: soi 24 off of pattaya south road. go about 50 meters up the soi and you will see the small shop on the right. next to a small laundry shop. this place is directly west of (beach side) of the famous soi bowkua market. also on the same soi that goes into the parking lot of condo central condo's. it's easy to find, really.

going down beach road continue to the point where walking street starts. go left. this is the only way you can go in the evenings when walking street is closed to car traffic. you are now one a road called "pattaya thai" or as it is commonly known "pattaya south". continue straight ahead through the next traffic light and alittle further you come to a big thai temple what on the left side. go just past this temple to the next small soi (soi 24) and turn left. walk 50-60 feet and you are there. there is always a motor bike taxi at this small soi. also the cucumber restuarant.

tele number is 087-783-1899. the lady speeks very good english as well.

enjoy. and remember not to zip your pants up on your tool when you leave. hehehahahahe.

[Priamos]

I wouldn't know. Perhaps it's just poor maintenance, in that case? The fact is, neither the rooms, nor the pool, nor the breakfast restaurant, looked particularly appealing when I was there. I assumed that this was because the hotel, whilst well maintained, was a bit dated. But perhaps it's the other way round? Perhaps the hotel is relatively new, but sloppily maintained? In that case, the tropical heat and humidity quickly take their toll.

Sorry, I correct myself: my negative throughs about maintenance was about LK Metropole. Not LK Renaissance. I'll be staying Renaissance for the first time next week. I'll keep you posted.

[Jgm005]

I very much agree with your take on Super Baby. Never been into Super Girl. I use to 'date' one of the Super Baby girls and all her friends where so stand offish. I had befriended her when she first came to Pattaya when she started working at dump of a beer bar on Soi 13-1. I knew she would not last long there for she was very well endowed and after a few months moved over to Super Baby. A sponsor has her now.

As for Silver Star on Soi 7. It is my regular haunt. Not the best lookers but a fun place.

Comments from last week. Note that things change. Also, the best girls might have already been barfined.

I thought the best looking girls were at Super Baby and Super Girl Go-Go bars. A few 8s (in my personal scale; that's the best you get in Pattaya). But they're disappointing. I have never barfined anyone from those 2 bars in the past several years. I asked several, and all of them do not do CIM or lesbian. Example: I thought number 44 at Super Girl go-go is very cute. She said she is 20 and she has been there for 2 years. She seem cold (or was it the Thai shyness?). She said she doesn't do CIM. But then she wouldn't even let me touch her breast. Geez, most girls will at least let us touch their breast. Skinny and with small breast, but has a very cute face.

Previously Happy go go was one of the top bars, but I was there 2 times, and the girls were just marginal. I think it went downhill.

Entertainment is not just good, but fantastic. Love the nude dancing; jacuzzi shows. Of course you have to tip or buy them a drink to fondle them (majority will alow you to do it).

Silver Star at Soi 7 or on walking street IMO is the most "funniest". It's raunchy and the girls on the jacuzzi show seems to be having fun. If you want to lick their pussy (OK) or ass (disgusting, but to each his own) go to silver star on soi 7. Don't put your bottle on the jacuzzi if you don't want that girl to stick it up her pussy. LOL!

[GreenBud]

Comments from last week. Note that things change. Also, the best girls might have already been barfined.

I thought the best looking girls were at Super Baby and Super Girl Go-Go bars. A few 8s (in my personal scale; that's the best you get in Pattaya). But they're disappointing. I have never barfined anyone from those 2 bars in the past several years. I asked several, and all of them do not do CIM or lesbian. Example: I thought number 44 at Super Girl go-go is very cute. She said she is 20 and she has been there for 2 years. She seem cold (or was it the Thai shyness?). She said she doesn't do CIM. But then she wouldn't even let me touch her breast. Geez, most girls will at least let us touch their breast. Skinny and with small breast, but has a very cute face.

Previously Happy go go was one of the top bars, but I was there 2 times, and the girls were just marginal. I think it went downhill.

Entertainment is not just good, but fantastic. Love the nude dancing; jacuzzi shows. Of course you have to tip or buy them a drink to fondle them (majority will alow you to do it).

Silver Star at Soi 7 or on walking street IMO is the most "funniest". It's raunchy and the girls on the jacuzzi show seems to be having fun. If you want to lick their pussy (OK) or ass (disgusting, but to each his own) go to silver star on soi 7. Don't put your bottle on the jacuzzi if you don't want that girl to stick it up her pussy. LOL!

[Edward M]

[QUOTE=Lone Punter; 1101569]

Very good report.

"I am a decade plus long fan of Rio and the wonderful Brasilieras, but pricing has gotten out of control with the strong real and local inflation. If money was unlimited I would still take the Rio termas over any other place in the world. They are just amazing places to meet young, attractive and sexually skilled ladies."

Basically Rio is a top destination but for me the most important reasons not to return is not money but safety. I took a stunning mulatta out of Help disco, in the appartment she started to argue about money. Throw her out but then she hammered against the door with her killer high heels from the out side, I was holding against from the inside so that not all the door with its frame would loosen, her heels perforated the door multiple times before she left. That was in the middle of the night, a guard arrived with a big colt but she had left already. But she was certainly on coke and turned very aggressive. In Thailand, crime is almost absent and thats why I prefer it to any other destination even if I would love to enjoy again exceptional ethno sex with terrific providers in Rio or other destinations in South America.

LP

That is the main reason I avoid FLers wherever I go. I do not mind paying a bar fine or termas fee in order to have some accountability. That and for the health checks. Even if they are spotty and easily faked they are still better than the nothing you get with a FLer. In Rio 90% of the girls I took home were girls I knew well from the termas and occasionally a friend of theirs. In the rare occasions I pulled a stranger from Help or Balcony I always felt better if I knew they worked in a termas.

[Lone Punter]

No! Crime is not "almost absent" in Thailand, perhaps a different level or type of crime exist here as opposed to Rio but crime is 'present and accounted for' in Thailand. Setting aside the countless victims of love who come here and end up killing themselves and or their lovers over their broken hearts, there's an extended line of hapless victims stretching from the airport to BKK and other cities who can tell you their war stories and or show you their wounds. Then there are others who will never tell because they were not fortunate enough to survive their encounters or are in the BKK Hilton. You've probably not seen much crime in Thailand because like any other destination, if you use common sense and stay out of local politics in Thailand, you can be safe as you would anywhere else even with the criminals at work.

http://www.pattayapeople.com/default.asp?Folder=2089

Of cause I can't disagree with you, thanks for your specifications. My main point was the violent crimes, in that sense Thailand is pretty safe. At least on the surface and on the main spots.

LP

[Run Mann]

In Thailand, crime is almost absent and thats why I prefer it to any other destination even if I would love to enjoy again exceptional ethno sex with terrific providers in Rio or other destinations in South America.

LP

No! Crime is not "almost absent" in Thailand, perhaps a different level or type of crime exist here as opposed to Rio but crime is 'present and accounted for' in Thailand. Setting aside the countless victims of love who come here and end up killing themselves and or their lovers over their broken hearts, there's an extended line of hapless victims stretching from the airport to BKK and other cities who can tell you their war stories and or show you their wounds. Then there are others who will never tell because they were not fortunate enough to survive their encounters or are in the BKK Hilton. You've probably not seen much crime in Thailand because like any other destination, if you use common sense and stay out of local politics in Thailand, you can be safe as you would anywhere else even with the criminals at work.

http://www.pattayapeople.com/default.asp?Folder=2089

[Lone Punter]

[QUOTE=Junior; 1101443]Very good report.

"I am a decade plus long fan of Rio and the wonderful Brasilieras, but pricing has gotten out of control with the strong real and local inflation. If money was unlimited I would still take the Rio termas over any other place in the world. They are just amazing places to meet young, attractive and sexually skilled ladies."




Basically Rio is a top destination but for me the most important reasons not to return is not money but safety. I took a stunning mulatta out of Help disco, in the appartment she started to argue about money. Throw her out but then she hammered against the door with her killer high heels from the out side, I was holding against from the inside so that not all the door with its frame would loosen, her heels perforated the door multiple times before she left. That was in the middle of the night, a guard arrived with a big colt but she had left already. But she was certainly on coke and turned very aggressive. In Thailand, crime is almost absent and thats why I prefer it to any other destination even if I would love to enjoy again exceptional ethno sex with terrific providers in Rio or other destinations in South America.

LP

[Junior]

i have been to rio de janeiro, brazil many times over the last 6 years and i thought that it was heaven on earth. i loved the food, the termas, taking girls home, etc and when i first went there it was fairly cheap ($40 / termas session, $60 take home). over the years though rio has had massive inflation and the dollar has collapsed against their currency. for example 60 minutes at 4x4 went from r150 to r240 and the dollar went from 3. 15 to 1. 65 so in us$ prices have basically tripled from $47 to $145. i have always thought about going to asia (either los or pi) but had heard some bad things from guys that had been there. girls too shy, girls too small, no variety in ethnic types, flight too long, discrimination against farangs, etc. i also had spent a lot of time and money teaching myself portuguese and did not know if i wanted to make the effort to learn another language (or languages since the providers in asia tend to come from the provinces with their own dialects different from thai or tagalog).

finally this year i bit the bullet and went out of my comfort zone and booked a trip to thailand. i had a hard time at first because i was solo and the rules here seem to be different than brazil but by the end of my week i was loving this place and already trying to figure out when i can come back.

i took girls from walking street beer bars, walking street go gos, and soi 13/2 go gos. i also made a trip to devil's den. other than dd i exclusively went lt. the beer bars are an interesting phenomenom to me. i like the fact that basically everyone is available. i had often wanted to bang waitresses, counter girls, etc in the rio termas but that was not allowed. taking girls home from termas was also not allowed although often done in secret. it was refreshing to go to the thai system that is basically designed for takeout.

like i said i had some issues in the first few days. i would go to a go go and try to talk to a girl and few flat out refused saying "i have period!" i estimate the 40% of the girls i spoke to those first few days had their period. obviously some of them were lying but i could not figure out what the problem was. in all my trips to mexico and brazil i never had any sort of rejection like that at all. as it happened in order to find a taker i had to bar-hop to 3 or 4 bars before i found a mutually compatible girl. i also found it frustrating that when i took a girl they did not want to go straight back to get down to business but they wanted to go to the disco or another bar first to have a few drinks. pricing was reasonable though. the go go bar fine was either 500 or 600 and the girls went lt for 1500-2000. i had thought that the girl fee was totally up to she and the client but some bars actually had a piece of paper with the girl fee written on it. 2000 for st and 3000 for lt, for example but i found that i could just say to the girl or mamasan,"no. that is too much," and get significantly less.

i also got some frustration with pictures. i would ask girls if it was ok for me to take some. some allowed naked shots with face, one allowed an underwear shot, some clothed. that was the girls that i took home. in the bars, however, one go go and one beer bar girl refused to talk to me any longer once i brought up the subject. note i assured them no internet (sorry fellas) and even offered that they could leave their face out or remained clothed but the deal was off at this point.

i pulled my first beer bar girl a few nights into the trip. it was not from one of the screaming beer bars that seem designed for bar fines but a restaurant where they did not explicitly advertise that they wanted barfines. she wanted 1500 but i managed to get her out for 1200+300. we went to my hotel and she was very shy. she came out of the shower and into bed with a towel on. when i asked her to "smoke" (bj) she flat out refused saying she did not do that. it took me at least a half hour to get her to kiss me. however once we got going it was very nice. we got off a session and then fell asleep. she cuddled very tight and did not mind me seeing her naked now even when we pulled off the blanket when it got too hot. we woke up in the morning and had round 2. i even got her to do a little female superior in that round. we laid around cuddling for a while and then did round 3. i was feeling very good. when she finally left at 4pm she asked for 1300. i happily gave it to her and considered giving her her initial offer of 1500 but she was very happy with the 1300.

to straighten myself out a bit i went to devil's den one day. that place was pretty good although pricey for pattaya at 3600 for 2 girls and 90 minutes. this is actually significantly less than the price for 1 girl for 40 minutes in a rio termas. it was the closest thing that i could find like a rio termas although it was missing the element of being able to mingle with and feel up the girls for an hour or so before a session. i took 2 girls for a session and they were excellent. no shyness at all, both did anal, lesbian show, cim, load swapping, etc. dd has a nice set-up. although it is not an every day place for me i will definitely go back as maybe a once or twice per trip luxury.

my trip improved after the dd visit. when i went to the beer bars and go gos the girls seemed to start liking me and i was able to get some good sessions to finish the week. i paid between 1200 and 1500 + 300 barfine for beer bar girls and between 1500 and 2000 + 500-600 barfine for go gos with the closer to walking street ones getting more. it was some pretty good gfe and they usually stayed until quite late in the afternoon. i also starting picking them up later so there was less ability to bar-hop.

overall by the end of my trip i was in a good groove and enjoying the place.

my thoughts about why it is better than rio:

1) price. hotels a third the price of rio apartments. girls half the price or less.

2) lt option. rio has no real lt option. termas and agencies are basically st. to get lt you have to get freelancers. i don't like freelancers. i like to have some accountability and some health checks.

3) safety. see #2. also, the streets were full of people 24 hours per day and walking distances less. i never felt in danger. even the stray dogs were polite. rio, however, sometimes resembles a war zone. muggings and carjackings are common. petty thievery, especially on the beach, is rampant. there have been several publicized hostage situations in copacana hotels, a restaurant, and on buses in the last few years.

4) go gos. these were great. although i missed the groping ability of termas the go gos were a close second. buy a girl a drink and you can grope her all you want. i had some that refused to leave me alone after one drink. i had to send forcefully send them away. note i came into this bar with another girl so they knew they weren't going to be barfined. these were just having fun, giving me lap dances, letting me feel them up, etc for 20 minutes or more all for a 110 baht lady drink.

5) beer bars. a nice cheap alternative to go gos. the girls were only slightly less attractive than go gos but much shyer. sometimes shy is nice.

6) along with #5 it is nice that almost everyone is available.

7) numbers. are there hundreds of go gos? thousands of beer bars? i don't know. it seemed that way. and all in walking distance to each other. rio has about 8 main termas. 2-3 main freelance bars, and dozens of low level termas that i have never been to because i like quality in my vacation. plus in rio these venues are spread out and require transportation to reach.

8) niceness. the thai girls were truly nice and aimed to please in every way only limited by their shyness. a 20 baht tip usually brought a big smile and a wai. as of late the rio girls have gotten spoiled a bit.

9) no shirtless brazilians. that is the biggest annoyance in the biggest termas in rio. 4x4. it is full of loud, drunk brazilians walking around with their robes down. i do not go to a termas to be rubbed up on by shirtless men. there seems to be more space in the go gos too and people where regular clothes.

10) very few beggars. copacabana is full of beggars.

11) although i do find the double pricing annoying no one short-changed me that i am aware of. that happens all the time in rio. in fact the last brazilian i dealt with in the usa short-changed me $1 as well. and this was after we had a long conversation entirely in portuguese.

things worse than rio:

1) no termas. this is only a minor criticism because most of the elements of a termas are available. go gos replace the groping. devil's den replaces the sexy incall. st and soi 6 (which i never did so i can only speculate) replace the aspect of a quick shot.

2) territoriality. most of the bars are small. when i hang around a small bar the girls grow on me. once i pulled a girl from a bar her friends would often refuse to go with me. the opposite usually happens in rio. girls will recommend their friends, sisters, cousins, etc. this is also a minor issue as well since there are so many bars and it was not universal. sometimes girls did recommend their friends or friends wanted to have me barfine them. this problem was the biggest in the restaurant where i got the very shy girl. unfortunately the next day a very attractive friend of hers showed up and flat out refused me out of respect for her friend.

3)"period". early on i got a lot of refusals from girls on their "period". this was not an issue later in the trip though. i think the girls were already spoken for or had other issues or maybe even had their period. i was able to mitigate this later on by not just picking girls by their appearance but by how they reacted to me and by talking to the mamasans. in rio, however, you can do quite well picking girls by their appearance because mostly they are trying to maximize their clientelle and duds are rare.

4) shyness. sometimes shyness can be cute but i did miss the open sexuality of the brasileiras. almost every one of them is a gamer from the start. they dance sexy, dress sexy, fuck sexy, and genuinely seem to enjoy their jobs. their word for bikini is the same as dental floss. i took a sexy thai girl to the beach one day and she wore a suit that had a skirt on it like she was a fat old woman.

5) performance. continuing #4, in rio anal and cim are commonplace. they also give as good as they get. rio girls are masters at combining gfe with pse. the only girls i met that would entertain anal and cim were from devil's den. performance-wise too the dd girls were close to the brazilian standard.

5) smallness. i had a few girls complaining that i was too large and was hurting them. i even let one girl go early (with a discount of course) because she was grimacing the entire time we were screwing. she was about 4 foot 10 and 90 pounds. after her though i got a tube of ky and no one complained after that so hopefully i solved the problem.

6) stickiness. a few times i would call a girl over and buy her a drink but then on closer inspection i decided not to take her but another girl in the bar. sometimes it was very tough to get the first girl to go away. some demanded another drink or tip. rio girls usually take this rejection better and go away without a fuss.

7) bar hopping. since the bars are small i often had to hit a few bars to find a mutually compatible girl. i assume that it is frowned upon to enter a bar and not order a drink so i always did. i do not like to drink much when i am mongering but since draft beer is cheaper than water i drank the beer. hitting several bars this can add up monetarily and physically.

8) double pricing. i know locals often get a discount in many places but thailand is the first place i have been that actually codifies it. i went with a girl to lucifer's one night and they actually have 2 menus. local's beer cost 90. farang's 170. 170 is outrageous for a beer in the us let alone thailand. i won't be going back there or at least i won't drink. a girl alerted me to this and she wanted to get her own beer but since they saw her with me they charged her the 170. then they wanted a tip on top of that too.

9) racial variety. in rio you can get white, black, indian in every combination and even the occasional half-japanese. in pattaya it was either asian or overpriced uzbek.

10) ladyboys. mostly they kept away but occasionally they were annoying.

11) indian tailors. no. i do not want to buy a suit. stop asking me.

bottom line, will i go back to pattaya? hell yea.

will i go back to rio? only on someone else's dime or if the real collapses which is unlikely before the 2014 olympics and 2016 world cup.

very good report.

i am a decade plus long fan of rio and the wonderful brasilieras, but pricing has gotten out of control with the strong real and local inflation. if money was unlimited i would still take the rio termas over any other place in the world. they are just amazing places to meet young, attractive and sexually skilled ladies.

about two years ago i went to pattaya for a few days as i was passing by thailand on the way to australia and have been back a few times since. your experiences are very very similar to mine. gogos & bars are very much hit and miss for finding a great lady. my pet peevee in the gogos are that the ladies are too often very unreliable with regards to services offered and time spend. most if not all will try to change the deal once you get back to your hotel.

as you mention devils den is the only place that comes anywhere near the brazilian standards we all love and crave. for my upcoming trip to pattaya i have decided just to stick to dd for all my lady needs. the only thing they miss is the pre session interaction you get in the termas. few things in this world can beat having a few dozen scantily clad young ladies competing for your attention.

while in pattaya i do miss the ethnic diversity of brazil, the churrascos, the sexually demanding ladies etc, but the pattaya ladies are starting to get a hold of me too.

[Fon Tok]

Yep, Pattaya hands down. I wouldn't say the girls are prettier there but the action is more concentrated and convenient for mongering.

Yep, Daddy knows the score better than most.

Pattaya is also relatively cheaper than Bangkok, right on the ocean, and a lot easier going than Bangkok. There's even some pretty white eye candy here and there.

Read the forum, ask a few specific questions, and prepare for a sweet time!

[Edward M]

Very Interesting report, And really professional analysis.

But I have one question. The smile. In Pattaya everybody smile to you (your wallet of course not your face) all the time, So what about Rio? And I am talking generally not just bars and clubs.

Good question. I don't remember. Probably not as much as Thailand but the girls always smile big for photos.

[Daddy07]

On January I will be one week in Thailand. I know already Bangkok but have never been in Pattaya before.

From the reports it seems to be the better place for mongering. Cheaper girls and more pretty. Is it correct? What would you recommend?

Yep, Pattaya hands down. I wouldn't say the girls are prettier there but the action is more concentrated and convenient for mongering.

[Hallodri Love]

On January I will be one week in Thailand. I know already Bangkok but have never been in Pattaya before.

From the reports it seems to be the better place for mongering. Cheaper girls and more pretty. Is it correct? What would you recommend?