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  2. #36353
    Quote Originally Posted by StinkySquid  [View Original Post]
    Thailand is a shit place,
    I think we got your point of view.

    Quote Originally Posted by StinkySquid  [View Original Post]
    These girls are lazy. And sure you can put a good spin on this, of course they are smart.
    Lazy? Some of them are.

    But smart? Not really.

    I could think of lovely, cute, good looking, sexy, service oriented, interested, disinterested, opportunistic, stupid, crazy, funny, dirty, but smart? No sorry.

    Quote Originally Posted by StinkySquid  [View Original Post]
    My point is here they are somehow spoiled to the max. This place is worthless. Sure you can squeeze out some mechanical sex.
    What are you expecting from them? Porn moves?

    Quote Originally Posted by StinkySquid  [View Original Post]
    This place is shit.
    Time for you to leave if you've ever been there.

    Quote Originally Posted by StinkySquid  [View Original Post]
    I can't even get off on vanilla sex, and hey, it's not mish position that sucks, its doggy style.
    You finally got it. You are the root of your disappointments, not they.

  3. #36352
    Quote Originally Posted by StinkySquid  [View Original Post]
    Axel is getting the gist. It's not just me.
    Axel is not even on the ground, just like you.

  4. #36351
    Quote Originally Posted by TimTimms  [View Original Post]
    Just watch you tube. I've rarely seen accosters on Soi6.

    Again Soi 6 is full of 1,000 baht girls. Just not an attractive bunch. If they were just a bit attractive they wouldn't be Happy with 1,000 baht.
    Yeah make assumptions from Youtube videos instead of listening to the guys that are experiencing it on the ground.

    Who knows what the stinky guy talks about, his post are complete nonsense.

    Same goes for the guys that explores nothing. Lack of girls he says. Where is the lack of girls? They are all over the place in Pattaya (maybe even more than before precovid).

    Then he says too many girls are drink only, but when you ask him to tell the name of bars or to be precise, no answer.

    You like to pay more than 1000 baht to the girl is good for you (and for her obviously), but it doesn't make your girl better nor better looking that the other ones.

    Plus a lot of guys seem happy with the girls that charge them 1000 baht, if you don't like it just leave these girls for these guys, no need to trash talk them all the time.

    There's a market for everyone in this place.

  5. #36350
    Quote Originally Posted by SirLancelot  [View Original Post]
    Your experiences on soi 6 are completely different to mine. Over the past three weeks I've fucked ten girls on soi 6 and they were great. All young and pretty and two (maybe three) of them were superstars (a winning combination of good looks, great attitude and amazing sex). <snip>

    I agree things are different on soi 6 these days. In the past you'd go in and be swarmed upon by eager girls, nowadays a lot of the girls stay at the front of the bar looking disinterested, sit in the back eating, or are prepping their hair in the mirror. You need to summon a girl to join you, especially in the numerous Nightwish bars.

    I'm guessing if you were ignored, you simply weren't proactive enough. Once you get talking to the girls, they're friendly and eager to please. Of course there are exceptions. One pretty girl I bought a drink for didn't make any effort with conversation and another told me she didn't go with customers, but I chatted with a LOT of girls on soi 6 and these were my only negative experiences. Half of the girls spoke very little English but I still had lots of fun communicating with them. I wouldn't have taken any of them upstairs if we didn't click on some level in the bar. Of the ten girls, only two were starfish and most of them provided really memorable sessions. In my opinion soi 6 is a fantastic place.
    Quote Originally Posted by MrEnternational  [View Original Post]
    I have not seen a shortage of guys in these places who are not content buying plenty of drinks for themselves and the ladies. Just look at SL's posts.
    Mr E, I respect your opinion and I have read SL's trip report. His recent posts are fact based & very interesting. But he does point out that some things have changed on Soi 6. Most critical to how I view the current state of affairs in LOS from halfway around the world is that several of my friends, all notable contributors to this forum, have visited Thailand in 2022 and what they are telling me. The consensus opinion among them is things have changed for the worse and that they currently prefer Phnom Penh and Jakarta over BKK & Pat.

    I have no doubt that when I return to LOS at some future and as yet undetermined date, I will have a good time, but that is because I know my way around, I am versatile and can adapt to new circumstances on the ground. I will not put up with a lot horse shit from the girls or their respective establishments. As you point out there are still a lot of different ways to find "good" girls in Pat besides Go Go's and Soi 6. The issue for me is that I like Go Go's. 555. Pin Up, for example, pre covid was a fucking great bar. I understand that currently it is still very popular and crowded every night despite their drink policy and expensive barfines. As long as they have a bountiful supply of pretty girls I can understand why. But in lessor quality joints there may be a problem. We shall see. Disneyland is still pulling in the customers even though they charge outrageous prices and there are long lines to every ride. Ha Ha. Go figure.

  6. #36349

    Maybe I'll stay on.

    Got to say, Sir Lancelot is giving some inspiring reports. Maybe I should stay after all to figure this out. I felt homesick to my Brazil and really looking forward to coming back. But then, I did have a nice session at Excite Club today. The black haired cutie was sitting out just as I came from late lunch and we made eye contact and I felt welcome not ignored and I jumped on the opportunity. And she seemed to sense how I like it and was giving and not withholding and I enjoyed. And now Ifeel I should crack this Soi 6 thing still before I leave. Just need to push through. I'm still not decided, but since I am free to do whatever I want and to avoid the hot high season in Rio and Sampa, I figure why not come home in January with a more pleasant memories? Thanks Sir Lancelot for inspiring reports.

    I was briefly at King's Club after my Excite session, just to see how that is. Ladies were older and fewer. I like Excite better. There are at least 2 staff members I like.

    BTW, I paid 1000 for the girl, 240 for the room and 200 for my and her drink.

  7. #36348
    Quote Originally Posted by StinkySquid  [View Original Post]
    Now do me a favor and don't all come to Brazil to spoil it here. Stay in your Pattaya shithole and gp through the motions. Buy that lady drink for a girl who has no intention to please you.
    Sounds like you're not even in Pattaya.

    What's the name of the bar opposite to Lollipop in soi6?

    And what's the name of the adjacent bar on the left when you're back is facing Lollipop?

  8. #36347

    Kudos to SL

    Quote Originally Posted by SirLancelot  [View Original Post]
    This is the last day of my diary. I hope you've enjoyed reading and it has provided you with useful up-to-date information on prices and venues, as well as what to expect in terms of the girls, attitudes and experiences. I've tried to be as honest as possible, to give would-be visitors a snapshot of what to expect. If you've enjoyed reading, this diary, plus a lot of night-time footage, will be featured on my friend's Youtube channel, Eyes of Owen, in early December.
    Sir Lancelot, my kudos to your extraordinary travelogue. It's a genuine magnum opus! But WTF, do you have a personal stenographer stashed away in your hotel room or something? We're talking epic novel here. How can you pound out so many lengthy field reports when you're pounding an average of 1. 5 a day plus all the conversation, chasing, and drinks in between. If there's a new drug we don't know about, pray tell mate!

    Lots of conflicting perspectives about Pattaya here between your version and Stinky Squid's. I don't recall seeing any reference to your age. Are you by chance young, handsome, and smiling, which could greatly contribute to your pull with these girls? Or is it more the glow of being away from home on a prolonged lecherous adventure?

    Sounds like Stinky Squid got off to a bad start and couldn't put the necessary smile back on his face. So he'll probably do better in a more cerebral atmosphere of Brazil (not to say that you're not cerebral, LOL). But I'm genuinely torn about whether to make a pass through Pattaya during my upcoming TH trip or by-pass altogether. I'd hate to get inspired by all your success only to fall flat on my face. But guess that's the risk we all take. Hearty thanks for the good reads anyway and good flight back.

  9. #36346

    New Dance Craze Called &quot;The Helicopter&quot;

    Quote Originally Posted by SirLancelot  [View Original Post]
    After I showered I was drying myself off with a towel when she laughed and pointed at my dick gently swinging from side to side. She spun her finger and asked 'can you do?' So I stood there in the bathroom door doing 'the helicopter', reducing her to hysterics. A proud moment for sure..
    Haha, I'm going to learn how to play guitar and write a new smash hit in honour of Lancelot's Helicopter Ride. "Everybody's doing the helicopter. Come on baby, do the helicopter".

    Many, I'm going to try that when I get to TH in a few weeks. Thanks for the idea mate.

  10. #36345

    Day 23: a fitting finale

    This is the last day of my diary. I hope you've enjoyed reading and it has provided you with useful up-to-date information on prices and venues, as well as what to expect in terms of the girls, attitudes and experiences. I've tried to be as honest as possible, to give would-be visitors a snapshot of what to expect. If you've enjoyed reading, this diary will be featured on my friend's Youtube channel, Eyes of Owen, in early December.

    Day 23: a fitting finale.

    Today was the last day of my trip. I was sad as I polished my final breakfast off at the Sports Lounge.

    My flight from Bangkok is at 11.20 am which means a very early alarm call tomorrow morning. As a result I decided against my normal night out on Tree Town as I know I'd probably get carried away and roll in at my hotel after 2 am. So Sam and I decided to go to soi 6 one last time instead.

    We arrived at 2. 15 pm, which I think is too early. A lot of the bars aren't open and even in those that are, a lot of the girls haven't started work yet. Those that are too busy eating or doing their hair.

    Lust had a healthy selection of girls outside and Sam immediately offered a drink to a skinny little girl who spoke hardly any English. Another girl offered to translate, who had lived in Brighton for five years with her stepdad and spoke excellent English. Surprisingly the young girl quoted 1000 baht, as normally the young uns try for 1500.

    The girls at Lisa Bar wore pink semi see-through gowns, which left a bit to the imagination. The prettiest girl was the one I bought a drink for yesterday who was difficult to get any kind of conversation out of. A LEO or Chang here is 100 baht.

    The small sexy dancer was at Playgirls but her hair wasn't in pigtails and she hadn't consumed enough sang som cokes to be dancing as provocatively at this time of day. As a result I wasn't as enthusiastic about her as last night. Also I wasn't wearing the same beer goggles I had on!

    If you find yourself on soi 6, try to get a seat as near to the front of the bar as possible, even if it means asking for the girls to move. It gives you a better view of the street, great for people-watching, and the girls all huddle at the front so you get an up-close view. It also means you can see the girls in the bars nearby. A foxy cougar with big tits kept smiling at me. I've taken a lot of slim, petite girls on this trip, so vowed I wouldn't be averse to trying something different today.

    A few girls tempted me to put my hand in my pocket at Playpen, including a tall dark-skinned girl. Again we had front row seats and enjoyed the spectacle of the girls trying to wrestle passing farang inside. The toilet in this bar has the most pointless sticker on the wall I've ever seen.

    By this point I hadn't been close to taking a girl upstairs, or even buying a ladydrink, but I finally struck gold in Horny Bar. I saw an ultra-cute girl wearing braces on her teeth and rabbit ears on her head, standing on the step outside. Without hesitation I invited her to join me for a drink. She was just 18 years old and reminded me of one of those Japanese anime characters. Big eyes, big boobs, pale skin, the killer combination of sexy and cute. She spoke good English and was a bubbly little thing with a bright inquisitive nature, starting loads of conversations. The room was 400 and she quoted 1500 but accepted 1000.

    I love the walk upstairs. You always pass a rack full of shoes at the bottom of a steep staircase. The room was big but sparse, loud music from the bar below rattling the window. We showered and then lay on the bed. I thought it might be a forgettable experience at first as she just hugged up to me, fully clothed, stroking my chest, but she loosened up and began wanking me as I fondled her perfect tits.

    'Original' she declared proudly.

    I fucked her in mish, her tits wobbling like jellies, then flipped one of her legs over, so I was entering her pussy sideways. The girls seem to love this position more than any other if the mmms are anything to go by. I spooned her and then rolled her on to her stomach and fucked her from behind, slapping in to her soft arse-cheeks.

    The highlight though was her on top. Some girls like to bounce in Asian cowgirl, both feet planted on the bed, some girls like to lean forward and wiggle, but the best girls sit upright, fix you with a sexy stare and grind slowly. I squeezed her glorious tits as she worked her magic and thanked my lucky stars that in Thailand I can be fucked in such confident, sexy fashion by a 18 year old cutie for such a low cost.

    I walked back to my hotel, stopping to get souvenirs for my family back home and eating at my favourite restaurant on soi Lengkee, Dre, a small family run Thai place. When I got back to my hotel I booked a taxi to the airport for tomorrow morning for 1300.

    With an early start next morning, I wanted to arrange for one of my favourite girls to come to my hotel for short-time in the evening.

    She was the girl I met on soi 6 midway through the trip, who I subsequently long-timed on her day off and she proved to be a nymphomaniac. We sent messages back and forth and I asked her what time she could get to my hotel. 3 pm she replied. When I pointed out that was five hours ago she said 9 pm. It's easy to see how Thai girls can be late sometimes!

    In an almost unprecedented event, she arrived on time, looking cute in a chequered top, frayed denim shorts and somewhat incongruously, a knitted hat. We shared the elevator up to the 3rd floor with a tall European man who said 'have fun' when we stepped out.

    As soon as we entered my room this girl was all over me, showering me with kisses and trying to stick her tongue as far down my throat as she could. The sex was amazing. It was the forth time we've fucked and we nearly worked our way through the entire kama sutra, kissing almost constantly. I've never met such a passionate girl. As we were getting our breaths back afterwards she gave me a lovebite. I thought she was cutely nuzzling away so was shocked to see a big purple bruise. She was proud of her handiwork.

    What a fantastic way to end my time in Thailand. A fabulous girl on soi 6 in the afternoon followed by an incredible short-time session with my favourite at night.

    I packed, set my alarm for an early start and went to bed.

    But I couldn't sleep. It was too early and my mind was racing. I've had a brilliant trip and enjoyed it immensely. I went with 30 girls in 23 days and the standard was excellent. There has been an influx of new talent since my trip eight months earlier and the place definitely has more of a buzz with new bars and venues opening.

    Soi 6 is as amazing as ever, I love the bars in Tree Town and along soi Buakhao and I even struck lucky with some sexy freelancers. There were negatives too. I'm ordinarily a huge fan of gogo bars but they are all over the place at the moment. Their prices are high and the barfines infuriatingly inconsistent. The soapies were disappointing and soi Honey is a shadow of its former self. But Pattaya is evolving and the emergence of soi Pothole, the proliferation of gents clubs and promising rejuvenation of soi 7 point towards a brighter future.

  11. #36344
    Quote Originally Posted by StinkySquid  [View Original Post]
    I think some pretty serious realization sets in the last 20 pages. I wasn't so wrong with being grumpy. Currently I need to decide whether I stay here or go back to South America, and I am vacillating on a twice daily basis. Either I leave on Monday or I extend my stay for another 45 days. Started to look up yesterday, looking forward to do some go-go bars in fact, even not caring by the fact that prices are frankly through the roof. But what is giving me major second thoughts now is reviewing the last 20 pages, and also have been checking out some long term Pattaya guru on YouTube "everything Pattaya" channel.

    As tough as it might be, the bitter realization that everyone seems to agree is that girls are lazy. It is precisely what I felt when walking down Soi 6 every single time. They are lazy as fuck and completely disinterested, choosy, unwelcoming. I keep tormenting myself if that is just because of me (despite my Senior Status I am not an experienced monger at all and have my personal hang-ups) OR if there is something untoward going on. And it is clear that others far more experienced than me are reporting similar patterns: lazy girls who are sitting on a handsome salary not even needing to bar-fine any more. So this means going to a go-go (where at least there are dozens and dozens of girls to choose from, not just a hand-full of lazy ones messing with their phones) even when ready to pay the truly exorbitant 1500 to 2500 just for bar fine, then on top trying to compete against the handsome package they have trying to get her to go with you, this all puts a major bummer over the whole experience.

    The explosion of tourists (which, after that crazy fireworks weekend isn't sooo crazy any more) anyway doesn't help. But the problem right now aren't even the excess of blokes (except on ThaiFriendly, which I believe is an extremely fast seller's market right now) so much as the excess of bars competing for girls paying them exorbitant salaries leaving them lazy. This is in part a temporary market distortion, because of the CoViD dead-stop reorienting a percentage of girls to do other things, and to a good amount their efforts have been redirected to virtual shit for myriads of simps sitting in their homes and tipping on OnlyFans. This has seriously damaged the whole situation. Influx of Laotian and Cambodian girls is the only hope to rectify the situation.

    I would think that coming back in about a year might be better than trying to hang out here.

    Another thing that I have found very difficult to deal with so far is the lack of communication. I can do Spanish and Portuguese with ease or at least good enough to express myself and negotiate. Here with the almost non-existing English it is very difficult.

    I will see what strikes me until Monday. But I won't even cancel my ticket 24 hours in advance and instead risk paying $50 extra in late cancellation fine should I decide on the last minute to extend my stay. Not looking good. I can deal with the out of control prices, but not with the bullshit of girls who don't even want to be bar fined because making quota on these stupid drinks and happy with their excessive salaries are lazy.

    And yes, of course it's better than Paris France or New York or Nakhon Nowhere. But I am done fighting an uphill battle when I have a life to pick up in what I think is an actual paradise for me.
    It doesn't look like Pattaya is right for you. Distressing over the higher st fee and $50 flight change fee is not what you need. Best to leave.

  12. #36343

    This made me laugh out loud.

    Quote Originally Posted by StinkySquid  [View Original Post]
    I just walked down soi 6 again as they close to see if qt this time anything is different. I see desperate dudes making a forced smile to a shit experience of getting ignored. I literally stare girls in their face smiling to see if anyone takes their last chance of the day. Nothing. I actually am laughing at this bullshit. Thailand is a shit place, and whatever this bar owner here says is a lie. These girls are lazy. And sure you can put a good spin on this, of course they are smart. Women alway everywhere try to get away with least amount of inconvenience. My point is here they are somehow spoiled to the max. This place is worthless. Sure you can squeeze out some mechanical sex. Sure you can be in your prime when you should pick up grirls for free anywhere in the world (so what are you doing here bragging while you pay for sex?) This place is shit. And what do I get better in south America? To start with: a brain to talk with. Even venezuelan girls who hate the business at least some are smart enough to connect human to human when someone meets them as a human. Others have conversation and we can talk about what we like in sex, and then do it. I can't even get off on vanilla sex, and hey, it's not mish position that sucks, its doggy style. The epitome of disconnected motions. No connection whatsoever. I had girls on TF respond so rude they are only intersted in ST fuck and go. Why would I even waste my time on something that starts out so unfriendly?

    Now do me a favor and don't all come to Brazil to spoil it here. Stay in your Pattaya shithole and gp through the motions. Buy that lady drink for a girl who has no intention to please you.
    I've never heard such utter nonsense. There are amazing girls everywhere. It really sounds like your attitude (at least from your post). How can you not have fun here. I have a 76 year old friend in town and the women are all over him. He smiles buys the odd lady drink and then takes plenty upstairs.

    There must be something seriously wrong with your attitude (ref this post! Don't come to Brazil and spoil it. LOL!!

  13. #36342
    I've walked down Sii6 a number of times.

    Girls are not accosting guys as they pass by, maybe a handful do- probably NEW fresh off the Farm.

    Just watch you tube. I've rarely seen accosters on Soi6.

    Again Soi 6 is full of 1,000 baht girls. Just not an attractive bunch. If they were just a bit attractive they wouldn't be Happy with 1,000 baht.

    See the issue.

    Please it's not a new Soi 6 business model. It's the same one as Pre COVID.

  14. #36341
    Quote Originally Posted by StinkySquid  [View Original Post]
    I just walked down soi 6 again as they close to see if qt this time anything is different. I see desperate dudes making a forced smile to a shit experience of getting ignored. I literally stare girls in their face smiling to see if anyone takes their last chance of the day. Nothing. I actually am laughing at this bullshit. Thailand is a shit place.
    Your experiences on soi 6 are completely different to mine. Over the past three weeks I've fucked ten girls on soi 6 and they were great. All young and pretty and two (maybe three) of them were superstars (a winning combination of good looks, great attitude and amazing sex). In fact one of them provided some of the most memorable sex I've ever had so I long-timed her on two separate occasions. I agree things are different on soi 6 these days. In the past you'd go in and be swarmed upon by eager girls, nowadays a lot of the girls stay at the front of the bar looking disinterested, sit in the back eating, or are prepping their hair in the mirror. You need to summon a girl to join you, especially in the numerous Nightwish bars.

    I'm guessing if you were ignored, you simply weren't proactive enough. Once you get talking to the girls, they're friendly and eager to please. Of course there are exceptions. One pretty girl I bought a drink for didn't make any effort with conversation and another told me she didn't go with customers, but I chatted with a LOT of girls on soi 6 and these were my only negative experiences. Half of the girls spoke very little English but I still had lots of fun communicating with them. I wouldn't have taken any of them upstairs if we didn't click on some level in the bar. Of the ten girls, only two were starfish and most of them provided really memorable sessions. In my opinion soi 6 is a fantastic place.

  15. #36340
    Quote Originally Posted by AxelHeyst  [View Original Post]
    Ok, point taken. But for how long is this type of behavior going to work without adversely affecting the demand side of the equation.
    I have not seen a shortage of guys in these places who are not content buying plenty of drinks for themselves and the ladies. Just look at SL's posts.

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