Pattaya Reports

[NemanLion]

Please don't take all this too Seriouly you unfunny people.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7zarJ_re6IA

Photo thumbnails are Pretty Darn Hot. Watch the vidoe its hard to believe its the same girl.

Anyways this is what I think of when imagining what 2,500 long time gets you. Hahahaha.

NO OFFENSE.

P.S. Watch the whole thing quite entertaining.

Haha. Seeing his other videos and found this.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rib1Z2gct2E

I had her 4 times on my trip. Met her off tinder. 1500 per ST. Was good fun!

[Caino]

Do you know if Devilsden opened again? The website says they are opening on early 2022. If it's closed is there anything similar?

Thanks.

[Tim Timms]

Buzzin Pattaya just did a video on this in the past few days, explaining the "losing face" in bar politics when it comes to returning to the same bar and going with different girls. He explained how to do it properly where nobody loses face, but if you don't there will be feelings hurt.

Buzzin can finally say with a straight face business is looking up. Red Planet Pattaya no longer offer rates in the Teens. Upper $20's I recall.

Same with Red Planet Asoke. One month one month ago you could get $650. Now you looking at over $1,200.

[11Bravo]

Where do you guys get this shit from? When you go to the food court and eat lunch from stall 1 one today and stall 2 the next day, do you think it matters to the vendors?

When SL bought the chick a drink and the other guy came into the bar and the girl ran over to him never to be seen again leaving SL with an unconsumed lady drink did that matter to the girl? You pay to fuck who you want to fuck and the girl is probably going to run to the guy she knows is paying to fuck.

Keep it simple and stop imagining drama. Maybe it is you guys' dream to be a movie star and have chicks jealous and fighting over you. You need to go somewhere other than Pattaya for that fantasy. Same thing works in both directions. It is not your girl, just your turn. It is not your customer, just your turn.

With all due respect, now maybe it's different in Pattaya, I don't know. Being Aryan (blonde hair, blue eyes, bad attitude), sun / sea and my skin DON'T mix, so Pattaya not my stomping grounds. But Bangkok ....

I'll take a girl one time from a bar, return, and if I'm going to take another, when the first starts to come over, a simple, subtle shake of the head (they are VERY astute), she changes course, saving face, because, after all, I'm not just a butterfly, but a BIG butterfly (wonder what the new terminology is).

But if I've pulled her more than once, no, I don't change horses in that corral. Because it IS a loss of face for the original girl: she wasn't good enough to keep her client / customer / squeeze satisfied. And the new girl you pick, to the original, she's a trespassing poacher. And that CAN cause BIG problems, especially if she's an enemy. It's office politics in ANY office; you have your friends, you have your enemies. And this is SALES, she's selling herself, and so a loss is a REAL potential cut in real income. There's a reason a girl runs over to a regular; that's steady income. Now, it's not the 2nd girl's fault, but that's not the way the 1st girl sees it. Now no one is thinking if you're not in that bar you're home chanting Buddhist mantras. But like a tree that falls in the forest when no ones around, it doesn't make a sound, and if it doesn't happen in her bar, it doesn't happen. It's just not discussed (though I did get a kick out of one regular, who, after we would finish, would take off and hold up the condom, saying, "Tonight, not much juice. What have you been doing?" Then punch me in the arm. Or if there was sufficient juice to pass muster, it would be, "Oh, you've been a good boy".

Finally, there's a REAL reason why she will leave you, a visitor for a regular; that's steady income. And she doesn't want any other coworker to cut in. Because it IS all about potentially losing places in various queues. She's not fighting over YOU, she's fighting over lost income.

Not fiction, but fact, straight from a number of BKK bg's. So personally, I'm considerate to not cause her problems at work. MY EXPERIENCE, YMMV.

[Explorer8939]

Barfining girls in the same BAR? Massage parlors, beer bars, establishment not matter.

To the customer, Myself, I give no thought about it.

To the Girls, I think it Does Matter. Beware of Bargirls Dynamics and Politics and some Behavior that might seem strange.

Well no, it's only a show for the customer. If you change ladies in the same bar, it's forgotten in 5 minutes.

The exception is if the customer is a young hansum man, I have seen knock down street fights over a hansum man.

[Explorer8939]

You pay for all this Drama?

No Offense. Hahaha.

The lady in question is a super fuck, an expert in diagonal Reverse Cowboy. Probably why her boyfriend was banging on the door so long.

[Explorer8939]

In all these years I have never gotten a chick with a Thai boyfriend but for you this is a constant consideration? I have even stayed in many chicks' apartments and condos multiple times and still no Thai boyfriend.

And why would this be a concern for you? You think he would not be aware of what she is doing if they are living together and reaping the same benefits? Like he just thinks it is normal for a chick to come home with 1000 or 2000 baht everyday when any normal person is making 300 or 400?

Chicks that have an actual Thai boyfriend that have no idea their girlfriend is a hooker will make it known. Such as the Army guy that traveled to Pattaya years ago and killed the shit out of that chick in front of 7 on Walking Street. Stop acting like there is some big risk in fucking with chicks with boyfriends in Pattaya because there is not.

Maybe 90 percent of the bargirls have a Thai boyfriend, or are shelling out bucks for a karaoke boy after work.

I guess you think that sex with 60 year olds satisfy 20 year bargirls, but I can tell you that when work ends, they are hungry for a young Thai boy.

Most mongers never notice the Thai boyfriends, but they are around. One very popular bargirl I know really wants to go to Phuket with me, because she has a very good lady friend in Phuket who fucks her good, but she can't go because of her new Thai boyfriend who is a cop.

Last year, I had a lady over for drinks, and she wanted me to fuck her ass, but I didn't because we had another lady with us who was busy eating her out. The very next day, the lady got married to a Thai man.

A casual monger never knows about any of this. The key is to remember that bar girls are just working, it's a job for them, and they have personal lives and their own wants and needs that have nothing to do with fucking 60 year olds. Of course, if you are 30 and work out, they may forget about their husband, same as most other women.

[Explorer8939]

I believe butterfly is still a very common term at least to describe the very popular and well known girls around Pattaya. I know it's used to describe a certain sect of Instagram models that are commonly used for party advertising. I don't think I've heard the term to describe male customers though.

I still hear ladies talk about butterfly customers, but these days it's about customers who claim to want a committed relationship but see other ladies on the side.

[Explorer8939]

So it took multiple friends to get a small ass paseed out Thai chick out of the shower? You are a grown foreign man; why couldn't you do it? I know many Thai chicks, but what I do not know is how to contact their friends. But you just run around with a rolodex full of chicks' friends? And who did you call to get the boyfriend away from the door?

I know a lot of guys that live in Pattaya. Some 20,30, and even 40 years. I do not know how long you have lived here, but how is it that you end up with more drama than anybody I know? This kind of stuff happens to nobody else, yet happens to you constantly? How Sway how?

The issue was that her boyfriend was banging on the door, so I needed somebody to calm him down before I could open the door. Her friends showed up, along with their boyfriends / husbands, and detained him, and then the ladies came inside and cleaned up my lady so she could leave.

You are lucky that this stuff doesn't happen to you.

As for bargirls living alone in a room, since most can sleep in the bar for free, they only pay for a room if the bar doesn't supply a free room, or they want to play with Thai boys. Mostly. There are all sorts of permutations, maybe the lady loves a Thai man, but he lives with another lady, and so she is just a gik, he comes to her room from time to time.

[Explorer8939]

That's great practical advice, and a good strategy to employ. Thanks, and we need more advice like that to help us keep cool heads when the s. T. Hits the fan! Keep the money dangling in front of them rather than being forced into full re-negotiation. I've had a few too many situations where they try to change the terms of agreement once in your room. It can get nasty when they don't get what they want (even had a Viet MILF pull a knife on me! Even though they know full well they're swindling you. Have you had any instances where you either had to give in or go to hotel / condo security? Will security help in TH if you need to call them?

And the boyfriends, they can get violent, no?

I only go with ladies that I know, or who know other ladies I know. If a lady pulled out a knife on me, she would not last long in Pattaya.

The swindles I encounter are more in the nature of feigned illnesses or imaginary emergencies. The remedy is to not barfine them again.

Tonight, I had a young lady (25) over for drinks. She has come many times, but I never fuck her, usually, I schedule her when I need down time between killer ladies. But, tonight, she wanted to know why I don't fuck her, and as the night wore on, she got more anxious about the issue, inquiring if I could fuck. So, after a lot of drinking, I decided to let her have her way with me.

She tried hard, but she didn't really do it for me. Part of it was that I knew that it was a challenge fuck for her. She has a live in boyfriend, so she is never horny with customers. But I went along with her and duly finished within 5 minutes. Which she complained about. Go figure.

[Vector313]

Where do you guys get this shit from? When you go to the food court and eat lunch from stall 1 one today and stall 2 the next day, do you think it matters to the vendors?

When SL bought the chick a drink and the other guy came into the bar and the girl ran over to him never to be seen again leaving SL with an unconsumed lady drink did that matter to the girl? You pay to fuck who you want to fuck and the girl is probably going to run to the guy she knows is paying to fuck.

Keep it simple and stop imagining drama. Maybe it is you guys' dream to be a movie star and have chicks jealous and fighting over you. You need to go somewhere other than Pattaya for that fantasy. Same thing works in both directions. It is not your girl, just your turn. It is not your customer, just your turn.

Buzzin Pattaya just did a video on this in the past few days, explaining the "losing face" in bar politics when it comes to returning to the same bar and going with different girls. He explained how to do it properly where nobody loses face, but if you don't there will be feelings hurt.

[Vector313]

Yeah man that terminology went the way of the dodo bird.

I believe butterfly is still a very common term at least to describe the very popular and well known girls around Pattaya. I know it's used to describe a certain sect of Instagram models that are commonly used for party advertising. I don't think I've heard the term to describe male customers though.

[Vector313]

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[Volterra]

I love the thrill of the chase and it excites me that if you're patient, you can still find diamonds in the rough.

....

Then an amusing thing happened.

I rolled off and lay back, inviting her to ride me but she had a shocked, incredulous look on her face. Eventually she slowly lowered herself on and rode me gently before she started giggling. 'Why you laugh?' I asked, which only made her break out in to a fit of hysterics. Moments later we were both laughing uncontrollably.

A great girl. Cute, giggly and inexperienced.

Thanks for all your great reports. They're getting me pumped for my upcoming Christmas lechy tour!

Totally agree with you about perseverance through the chase. I've had many instances (including this past August in BKK) where I could have easily gone early with a NMCOT or simply could have given up and self comforted in my hotel room, but by seeking out a few extra bars, seemed to come up with 11th hour gems in the rough. Your afternoon find sounds unsurprisingly serendipitous!

And the cutie. That cracks me up. I landed upon one (hot) newbie to the go go game in August. She didn't laugh like yours did, but she nervously confessed before going down on me for BBBJ that she'd only been in this work a couple months (20 year old, straight from provinces) and wasn't very confident at giving head. At which point she proceeded to teach herself on the job and made me freaking explode after driving me wild for 20 minutes.

Here's to cute newbies, cheers mate!

[Volterra]

So, yeah, the boyfriend thing is a factor in my mongering, but its invisible to most guys. A related issue is the karaoke bar scene, since many ladies hit the karaoke bars after work. So, they try to weasel out of Long Time after 1 am, trying to get full payment so they have money to buy drinks for Thai boys. That's when they claim to get a message telling them they have to go immediately, a roommate has to go to the hospital, or lost their room key, or their baby is sick, or maybe they are sick. Anything to get away so they can go to the karaoke bar with their friends. The cure for the aborted Long Time is to tell them to come back after their emergency, and you will pay them when they return. That solves your problem most of the time, they will sullenly go to sleep and the "emergency" disappears.

That's great practical advice, and a good strategy to employ. Thanks, and we need more advice like that to help us keep cool heads when the s. T. Hits the fan! Keep the money dangling in front of them rather than being forced into full re-negotiation. I've had a few too many situations where they try to change the terms of agreement once in your room. It can get nasty when they don't get what they want (even had a Viet MILF pull a knife on me! Even though they know full well they're swindling you. Have you had any instances where you either had to give in or go to hotel / condo security? Will security help in TH if you need to call them?

And the boyfriends, they can get violent, no?