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  1. #36144
    Bro these prices you are writing they are in us dollars or Thai baht? You are using $ symbol and 3000 usd for a kat in Thailand is too high a rice according to me. It would make more sense if it's Thai baht.

    Quote Originally Posted by QuackUp  [View Original Post]
    I forgot to add in the Bangkok report that for the sim, I used an esim from a company called airalo. It was $19.95 usd for 15 days with both voice and data. Cost is more than getting a sim in Bangkok but the convience was the weighing factor for me. Also last rant on things I can't get used to. When buying a ladydrink, the waitress will ask for one or the mama san will ask for one and finally the friend or friends will ask for one. To be fair not all places were like this but many were.

    Okay now to Pattaya. I took Cherry taxi service and the cost was be $1,200. One way. They have whatsapp and easy to schedule. The driver was always early and waiting for me. Upon returning home, I did read a couple of pages back and glad that I did. The excellent reports from Sir Lancelot almost mirrored my take on the agogo's so won't repeat what he reported but will expand a bit. I saw a cute girl in front of a club called Hilton. It's on the same street as Windmill. Anyways, I walk up to her and asked her if she would like a drink. She took me inside we did some small talk and I asked about the barfine. She said she didn't know what the barfine was and she needed to ask the mama san. The mama san came over and she said the barfine would be be $1,500. And be $3,000 for the girl short time. The $3,000 for the girl didn't bother me but the $1,500 barfine did. I waited for the mamasan to leave so maybe get this girls line and set something up outside her working hours. The mamasan never left our table so after a while I left and went to windmill. I really like places that are hands on and very interactive and Windmill fits that bill. Didn't barfine anyone but had a lot of fun there. Another great interactive place is Kinks at LK metro. The second floor is off the charts fun. Naked girls, very hands on, just a great time. I also went to Sugar Sugar but it was so crowde there wasn't any seat except for this one corner which I was walking to when one of the waitress said this is only for vip's. So, told her I would come back later, which never happened. I also went into I believe it was Queens and they had a decent lineup at the time I was there. Down the street on Soi be. I went into Playgirls. I think that's what it was called but I think it might have been spelled different. This place was okay and I thought since it wasn't in LK metro the prices would be cheaper. Wrong, barfine was $1,500 and $3. 000 short time.

    Like I said before, I do like the places where the interaction is high and I found those place at the clubs of Bong Koch 8. Thanks to all the posters who reported on them as I finally had a chance to visit them on my second to last day in Pattaya. Tried to get a grab taxi but the final destination wouldn't come up so I entered Full Love Inn and that actually worked. It was $91.00 to get there, then walked about 100 yds to the clubs. First stop Bada Bing. In past reports this seemed like the place to be. Unfortunatley, there were only about 6 girls and very average. Timing is everything in our sport. Next up 007. Again about 6 girls but at least two were cute. Bought a drink for one and the fun began. Lots of handsy play and making out. Took her upstairs and it was $500.00 for the room and $1,000 for the girl. I can't remember the price for my drink or hers but it wasn't a lot. Next, Amsterdam. No girls in front so got to the door and opened it up slowly. When I look inside I see one customer at the bar with a girl who has her back to me and the tall bartender who I think is the owner. With my hand still on the door handle I asked are you open. The girl then turns around and says yes we are open. To my surprise, it was the cute girl from the video and she looks cuter in person. IMHO. Then I asked will there be more girls later. She replied there are only two girls here. I said thank you and will try to return later. I ran out of time to go back, but if I did I would take her up in a heartbeat. So walk out and go to the next club, I think it was called Club 4. This is more like an agogo than a G-club. It was larger than the other clubs with dancing stage with poles. This was more expensive than the other clubs so I guess if you are considered an agogo you can charge a higher price. There were a couple of cuties in there. Can't remember what the room fee was but the girl I was with said her fee was $2,000. The last club I went to was CB. There were about 10 girls there and again there were two that I liked. I sat at the bar, picked one and bought her a drink. She didn't understand English and my Thai sucked so made commuicating a little difficult. Even with google translate, things were getting lost in translation. Anyway from the bar I noticed there were little rooms with couches in them. I wasn't sure if these rooms cost extra but I pointed to one and the girl smiled got up and led me to it. On the couch the interaction was way off the charts. Making out, hands everywhere, just a great time. Because I shot a load at 007 earlier wasn't sure I could recover for a second shot so got on my translator and asked if she would like to come to my hotel before work and have lunch and some fun time at the hotel. With her phone it showed noon? I said yes and exchanged line. Next day around 11:00 she sends a message of Hi. I asked if she was ready to come over. She replied back 18:30. I was a bit confused because I thought she had to be at work at that time. So instead of confusing her and myself, I said yes, 18:30 would be fine. At 17:00 I get a line video chat. It's her and she out in front of the hotel. First time a chick has been early but then again, it could have been the translating. So I meet her out front and asked if she was hungry. She said yes and we went next door to grab dinner. After dinner, back to my hotel for a couple of hours of fun. I didn't ask, nor was I expecting, but we did it bbfscip and she was very passionate. I can't remember her name and on her line account it's all in Thai character so I can't read it. I do know that every trip I take to Pattaya will include a stop at these clubs in the afternoon then probably go to the agogos later in the night.

    Here are some of the restaurants that were practically next door to my hotel and were very good. Robin Hood Tavern, The nag head (sp), and Casa Pascal. Also up near 3rd was an ayce Japanese restaurant called Kazuhiro. It was funny because going to the Bong Koch 8 clubs by taxi that was my landmark when walking back to my hotel from there.

  2. #36143
    Yeah I guess but I can say this openly in India and not be worried about getting sued or smashed by some black dude in the name of blm LOL. So the joke is actually on you when you can't even say what you want to say and have to play nice to pests in order to not offend them. LOL.

    Quote Originally Posted by RunMann  [View Original Post]
    Seems like you missed your calling. There is a comedy club out there somewhere with an opening for a stand up comedian like you, probably not in India though.

  3. #36142
    LOL maybe this hurt your wokeness or fragile ego but truth is the truth. I'm not privileged because I have money nor are the 90-99% of the population acting like scavengers because of lack of money! Even if they have money those people still act and behave like scavengers.

    It's only knowlege, stability of mind and actions which differentiates human beings. Money is only a medium of transaction and does not reflect how a human being is.

    I'm not frm Mumbai. It's a shithole. Many people have lots of money there but they are all scavengers there.

    Quote Originally Posted by HydNewbie  [View Original Post]
    Well some priviliged people think they are above the food chain just because they got some money, 80-90 % of the population is lower cast origins seriously dude, are you from Mumbai (or) what, if yes growup there is a world out of Mumbai.

  4. #36141

    Just an opinion

    Quote Originally Posted by Shukracharya  [View Original Post]
    I'm from India, I live in India. I know how Indians whether in India or Indians born abroad or living abroad generally behave, think and act out. What can you expect when almost 80-90 % of the population from India is what we call here of lower caste origins. The remaining 19-10%also get influenced by the bad habits, behavior while living in a society with those people. It's just about 1-10% of the population of Indians ls which is roughly 10-100 million people (a huge number) which is refined and behave like human beings. Rest of them over 1.3 billion in India and abroad just are scavengers. Only way they know how to behave is when you smash them with a stick. Why do you think Indian police still carries centuries old sticks with them to control crowds in India LOL.
    Just an opinion.

    I agree with you most of Indians not behaving the way we educated people do. I couldn't disagree more about how fraction of people you encountered be relating to people who has never seen wealth nor etiquette management from elders. You are comparing the billions of people who has never been abroad to another country to the people has the luxury of doing so. Those small caste people has only seen earning through labour and I don't expect them to eat with fork because that's how their upbringing is done. We have more exposure of things than them. And they don't go abroad making scene because of alcohol behaviour or their own fetish.

    For them or mostly that category people is what they see is what they believe. If they see more instances of african / black people getting caught in drugs in India they would believe many of them do that same. For old generation, kissing on movies was a no-no that's why they didn't prefer foreign movies because that was against their ethnic culture.

    Our generation is evolving a lot. Accepting things and culture from different nations. How mass shooting happens in America does that mean all Americans are killers? How the black people were treated in history or now does that make all the Americans racist? A parent whose child is gone abroad for studying or job is scared if he / she is alright Because they have not seen what it's like to live there. For them it's still away from home not a safe place. My cousins are studying abroad and whenever something bad happens their parents gets sacred too. I am not denying that few Indian comes and make nuisance but it also doesn't implies that all the Indians you are mentioning will do the same.

    Scam is everywhere, Even in India you just need to connect with right people for guidance and right women. For what you call "Katz" their main agenda is earning money, they will do so by either means. Some does is passionately while others use scam means. Like in Thailand, if one customer is paying more money the girl will be more compassionate towards him. Yes, maybe the girl is not in mood that time or had a bad day. It'll reflect on her service obviously.

    I apologise for rest of people if my words are demeaning or derogatory. Let's not make the thread a rant instead gather information from very experienced members for to use in future and contribute back.

  5. #36140

    Day 6: wild thang

    Early afternoon Owen and I wandered up to Central Mall, taking a circuitous route up soi Buakhao, soi Honey, 2nd Road, sois 7 and 8. A tailor on Beach Road tried to sell us a suit. He told us his speciality design uses fabric with a cannabis leaf design. That's another big difference I've noticed from my trip seven months ago, the smell of weed and the number of cannabis shops that have popped up since legalisation.

    Malls are good places to wander around, cool down and people watch. Once Owen had bought a Thai sim card for his phone, we meandered our way back to our respective hotels. I couldn't resist stopping for a hot dog at a small shop near the top of soi Lengkee. The key to a good hot dog? Onions.

    I planned to meet Sam in Tree Town at 7 pm but I was ten minutes late because I stopped and said Hello, to the sweet Lao girl at Booby Trap, the pretty girl at Annie Jacks and the girl from Vixen I met the night before.

    As is often the case we started with a drink at Blue Sky Bar, where a blond girl found it hilarious I ordered a water. I've been suffering due to excessive alcohol consumption over the past few days so tonight I wasn't touching the stuff. Blue Sky Bar has mainly older girls, including one with glasses and big natural tits. There are a few prettier younger girls too and quite a feminine looking ladyboy, who was bursting out of a neon green dress she was wearing.

    The blond girl snapped a selfie of herself with me in the background completely oblivious, then offered to send it to me via Line. It never hurts to have Line contacts in your phone.

    We decided to give Retro a go, which had a dozen girls outside. The standard was fairly average but of course when you sit in a bar you always noticed girls more and there was a pretty girl in a yellow knitted top sitting with a customer.

    On we ventured to at Lai where Sam did something I hate. A girl stood next to him, sensing a drink, but he said 'I not look for lady' (blatant lie!) and manoeuvred her to sit next to me instead. You get enough pressure for ladydrinks from waitresses without your mates doing it! I'll nickname him mamasan if he does it again.

    The beer bar complex next to Tree Town has some lively bars. New Ben Beer Bar was busy with mainly older girls, including a few I'd definitely categorise as foxy. In contrast, a very sweet-faced wholesome girl was playing pool against a British guy from Bolton.

    Boozer Bar would be easy to miss as it's tucked away in the corner but I bought a drink for a cute girl with braces on her teeth. Me and her, plus Owen and a waitress had a lot of fun speaking (or trying to speak) Thai to each other, the fun interrupted by Owen screaming when the largest cockroach I've ever seen scuttled towards him. The girl I bought a drink for was a definite maybe for later in the trip and the barfine is just 400 baht.

    I bought a drink for a sexy girl at Oh Bar. She was wild. She danced sexily on my lap until I was hard and then slid her hand down my pants and began wanking me, in full view of everyone else. Then she stood up and wiped the same hand over the faces of Owen, Bob and Sam, who were oblivious where that hand had just been!

    It was about midnight and I was keen to bar-fine sooner rather than later and this girl seemed a guaranteed good time. The barfine was 500 (for long time it would have been 800) and the girl asked for 2000. Deal.

    Back at my hotel we showered and I admired her perfect tits. At first I thought it might be a disappointing session because she crawled under the sheets and pretended to be asleep, but I was wrong.

    After a fairly inexperienced blowjob (basically just wanking me in to her mouth) the sex was great. First I went on top and fucked her slowly. She was a great kisser. We tried a few more positions of my choosing before she assertively pushed me to lie flat on the bed and rode me expertly. She had great skills, clenching her pussy tight while slowly rocking her hips, leaning her tits in to my face for me to suck her nipples.

    The sex went on for ages in loads more positions. I was struggling to cum so took the condom off, intending for her to finish me with oral, but she jumped back on and energetically rode me until I filled her pussy.

    A sign of how great the sex was, the bed had moved a meter away from the wall!

    P.S. For those interested, a video version of my diary will be appearing on my friend's Youtube channel, Eyes of Owen, probably starting early December.

  6. #36139
    Quote Originally Posted by MrEnternational  [View Original Post]
    So how much was it?
    She said $1,500 but I gave her $2,000.

  7. #36138
    Nico!

    Yes, I met her a bit over ten years ago certainly a real pro at her job. Before her daughter came down to live with her we hang out a bit at night when she wasn't tired and she normally was tired from the number of customers she had.

    I always use Paradise but during Covid closed I met up with her at a short time place down the Soi, and from time to time another short time place behind Big see Extra where she lives which is our regular meeting place.

  8. #36137
    Quote Originally Posted by QuackUp  [View Original Post]
    So I meet her out front and asked if she was hungry. She said yes and we went next door to grab dinner. After dinner, back to my hotel for a couple of hours of fun. I didn't ask, nor was I expecting, but we did it bbfscip and she was very passionate.
    So how much was it?

  9. #36136
    Quote Originally Posted by Shukracharya  [View Original Post]
    I'm from India, I live in India. I know how Indians whether in India or Indians born abroad or living abroad generally behave, think and act out. What can you expect when almost 80-90 % of the population from India is what we call here of lower caste origins. The remaining 19-10%also get influenced by the bad habits, behavior while living in a society with those people. It's just about 1-10% of the population of Indians ls which is roughly 10-100 million people (a huge number) which is refined and behave like human beings. Rest of them over 1.3 billion in India and abroad just are scavengers. Only way they know how to behave is when you smash them with a stick. Why do you think Indian police still carries centuries old sticks with them to control crowds in India LOL.
    Seems like you missed your calling. There is a comedy club out there somewhere with an opening for a stand up comedian like you, probably not in India though.

  10. #36135

    T / are

    I forgot to add in the Bangkok report that for the sim, I used an esim from a company called airalo. It was $19.95 usd for 15 days with both voice and data. Cost is more than getting a sim in Bangkok but the convience was the weighing factor for me. Also last rant on things I can't get used to. When buying a ladydrink, the waitress will ask for one or the mama san will ask for one and finally the friend or friends will ask for one. To be fair not all places were like this but many were.

    Okay now to Pattaya. I took Cherry taxi service and the cost was be $1,200. One way. They have whatsapp and easy to schedule. The driver was always early and waiting for me. Upon returning home, I did read a couple of pages back and glad that I did. The excellent reports from Sir Lancelot almost mirrored my take on the agogo's so won't repeat what he reported but will expand a bit. I saw a cute girl in front of a club called Hilton. It's on the same street as Windmill. Anyways, I walk up to her and asked her if she would like a drink. She took me inside we did some small talk and I asked about the barfine. She said she didn't know what the barfine was and she needed to ask the mama san. The mama san came over and she said the barfine would be be $1,500. And be $3,000 for the girl short time. The $3,000 for the girl didn't bother me but the $1,500 barfine did. I waited for the mamasan to leave so maybe get this girls line and set something up outside her working hours. The mamasan never left our table so after a while I left and went to windmill. I really like places that are hands on and very interactive and Windmill fits that bill. Didn't barfine anyone but had a lot of fun there. Another great interactive place is Kinks at LK metro. The second floor is off the charts fun. Naked girls, very hands on, just a great time. I also went to Sugar Sugar but it was so crowde there wasn't any seat except for this one corner which I was walking to when one of the waitress said this is only for vip's. So, told her I would come back later, which never happened. I also went into I believe it was Queens and they had a decent lineup at the time I was there. Down the street on Soi be. I went into Playgirls. I think that's what it was called but I think it might have been spelled different. This place was okay and I thought since it wasn't in LK metro the prices would be cheaper. Wrong, barfine was $1,500 and $3. 000 short time.

    Like I said before, I do like the places where the interaction is high and I found those place at the clubs of Bong Koch 8. Thanks to all the posters who reported on them as I finally had a chance to visit them on my second to last day in Pattaya. Tried to get a grab taxi but the final destination wouldn't come up so I entered Full Love Inn and that actually worked. It was $91.00 to get there, then walked about 100 yds to the clubs. First stop Bada Bing. In past reports this seemed like the place to be. Unfortunatley, there were only about 6 girls and very average. Timing is everything in our sport. Next up 007. Again about 6 girls but at least two were cute. Bought a drink for one and the fun began. Lots of handsy play and making out. Took her upstairs and it was $500.00 for the room and $1,000 for the girl. I can't remember the price for my drink or hers but it wasn't a lot. Next, Amsterdam. No girls in front so got to the door and opened it up slowly. When I look inside I see one customer at the bar with a girl who has her back to me and the tall bartender who I think is the owner. With my hand still on the door handle I asked are you open. The girl then turns around and says yes we are open. To my surprise, it was the cute girl from the video and she looks cuter in person. IMHO. Then I asked will there be more girls later. She replied there are only two girls here. I said thank you and will try to return later. I ran out of time to go back, but if I did I would take her up in a heartbeat. So walk out and go to the next club, I think it was called Club 4. This is more like an agogo than a G-club. It was larger than the other clubs with dancing stage with poles. This was more expensive than the other clubs so I guess if you are considered an agogo you can charge a higher price. There were a couple of cuties in there. Can't remember what the room fee was but the girl I was with said her fee was $2,000. The last club I went to was CB. There were about 10 girls there and again there were two that I liked. I sat at the bar, picked one and bought her a drink. She didn't understand English and my Thai sucked so made commuicating a little difficult. Even with google translate, things were getting lost in translation. Anyway from the bar I noticed there were little rooms with couches in them. I wasn't sure if these rooms cost extra but I pointed to one and the girl smiled got up and led me to it. On the couch the interaction was way off the charts. Making out, hands everywhere, just a great time. Because I shot a load at 007 earlier wasn't sure I could recover for a second shot so got on my translator and asked if she would like to come to my hotel before work and have lunch and some fun time at the hotel. With her phone it showed noon? I said yes and exchanged line. Next day around 11:00 she sends a message of Hi. I asked if she was ready to come over. She replied back 18:30. I was a bit confused because I thought she had to be at work at that time. So instead of confusing her and myself, I said yes, 18:30 would be fine. At 17:00 I get a line video chat. It's her and she out in front of the hotel. First time a chick has been early but then again, it could have been the translating. So I meet her out front and asked if she was hungry. She said yes and we went next door to grab dinner. After dinner, back to my hotel for a couple of hours of fun. I didn't ask, nor was I expecting, but we did it bbfscip and she was very passionate. I can't remember her name and on her line account it's all in Thai character so I can't read it. I do know that every trip I take to Pattaya will include a stop at these clubs in the afternoon then probably go to the agogos later in the night.

    Here are some of the restaurants that were practically next door to my hotel and were very good. Robin Hood Tavern, The nag head (sp), and Casa Pascal. Also up near 3rd was an ayce Japanese restaurant called Kazuhiro. It was funny because going to the Bong Koch 8 clubs by taxi that was my landmark when walking back to my hotel from there.

  11. #36134
    Quote Originally Posted by SirLancelot  [View Original Post]
    After breakfast I went for a foot massage. I intended to go to a massage-with-extras place but didn't see any girls to my liking. The prettiest was Nico from Paradise who I fucked seven months ago.
    I saw Nico in March and again in September. Beautiful lady; I'm glad I got her Line. Much more fun in my room than that tiny massage stall.

  12. #36133
    I am not wrong with the 90-99% quote. 1-10 % of India's population means 10-100 million people that's a lot of people.

    As for girls scamming / flaking or changing agreed terms that's the standard way of doing business in India. So always be prepared. They say yes to everything before to lock the deal but once the deal is locked then those 90-99 % indians start changing the terms or flaking on you or downright scam you.

    Rest of 1. 3-1. 4 billion people of Indian origin in India or even abroad do live the way I described.

    Quote Originally Posted by Turgid  [View Original Post]
    I suspect that 90-99% is too high a percentage, it should be much lower. I know more about Indian women than the men. In India you can get the extremes. I have been with women where you will negotiate a price for agreed services before the deed and after you pay and are in the room and ready to get down to business (e.g. BJ, DATY) the girl would say something like "that is not allowed sir" - a total mood killer. On the other hand you can meet girls who can give the best GFE ever. India is a country of extremes.

  13. #36132
    Quote Originally Posted by Shukracharya  [View Original Post]
    90-99% Indians behave like scavengers anywhere they go. Be it within India or abroad. I don't like the Indians coming to my place to visit either and of course people overcharge Indians because when you got to deal with people you don't want around you.

    So stop your complaining and get on with it. Stop acting like cheap scavengers and maybe people wouldn't want to tell you to piss off all the time.
    I suspect that 90-99% is too high a percentage, it should be much lower. I know more about Indian women than the men. In India you can get the extremes. I have been with women where you will negotiate a price for agreed services before the deed and after you pay and are in the room and ready to get down to business (e.g. BJ, DATY) the girl would say something like "that is not allowed sir" - a total mood killer. On the other hand you can meet girls who can give the best GFE ever. India is a country of extremes.

  14. #36131
    Quote Originally Posted by MartinFlevo  [View Original Post]
    I call bullshit. Thai people are kinda racist. Thats for sure. Most Thai don't like Indians. The way they smell, the amount they are willing to pay etc etc.

    Of course this affects ALL Indians. Same goes for races or people from certain countries.

    That some barowners are assholes? Yeah of course. The amount of alpha-males in Pattaya is skyhigh. Thats why everybody fucks for hours and many guys think they are the best thing since slides bread.

    But blaming the white farang is kinda racist from you mate.
    LOL that last sentence is exactly what I just mentioned. Reverse racism victim mentality is hilarious to me. Thais generally have opinions about all races including white farang. But a the end of the day, whie farang has colonized and brutalized the majority of planet earth, so of course as with anything else, whoever is in charge will get blamed for anything that goes wrong.

    this is one of the reasons I laugh at Indian guys complaining in Thailand because I've spent enough time in Kenya and India to see all of the brutally racist nonsense that Indians to to Africans and to each other in the Indian caste system. Listening them complain in Thailand is a joke.

  15. #36130

    Racism of all types just roll with it

    Quote Originally Posted by CaliGuy33  [View Original Post]
    I'm brown with a beard (not Indian) and I don't recall experiencing any racism of this sort in Thailand. I smell good, I'm respectful and I like a good deal but I'm not cheap.

    When it comes to dating and pay for play do Thai and Asian girls in general prefer white men over other races? Yes. It is what it is, deal with it. If one doesn't show you interest than move onto to the next. Ultimately, we're mongers, so a girl's preference in skin color shouldn't matter because you're paying for it. As long as you don't smell, are respectful and carry yourself well and are willing to pay a fair price, 90 plus percent of Thai working girls will have no problem getting smashed by you.
    There's all types of racism floating around Pattaya, just got to ignore it. Indians are the current face of bad behavior towards girls, but historically your favorite Thai MILF has been screwed over heavily by a British or Aussie baby daddy that dropped them like a bad habit or used to pee on them or beat them. I've seen the girls treated bad by all types of guys whether it Indian, black, aus, british, chinese, or korean. I've seen mongers treat each other like shit, especially the Aussies towards blacks / africans. Nowadays they like to play the "reverse racism" card when the thai girls prefer to go with black guys because historically the black guys don't treat them as bad. ALL races of guys have the cheap charlie reputation amongst girls, so that's not even a factor.

    Just find the girl that likes you and ignore all the rest of the nonsense.

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