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  1. #34013
    Quote Originally Posted by BananaBoi  [View Original Post]
    Even in Thailand, seen this at Palace. Girls demand 20 drinks from their customers before being barfined.
    Can you just pay extra money instead of buying the drinks? Because all buying the drinks mean is that you are spending extra money. It serves no other purpose to the bar or the girl. Cut to the chase and pay the extra money instead of having pee run down your leg and pretend it is the magic potion to get the hooker.

  2. #34012
    Quote Originally Posted by RacShack  [View Original Post]
    now seems like you just want to fight with everyone about nothing, sir Lancelot gave more valuable information in last 3 days then you have in last (well long time) all because he wants to buy a few lady drinks and your budget not allowing you or you don't want to, it's his choice and most importantly gives boots on ground excellent reports!
    I am not fighting with anybody. I am saying it is spreading a false narrative to say a person has to buy lady drinks in order to buy a hooker. I don't give a shit if SL and Sam corner the market on lady drinks in Thailand. It is their money to do as they wish. But to say a person could not buy a hooker that they have to pay anyway, because they did not schmooze her with lady drinks is absolutely false. They bought lady drinks and still could not fuck the women. So what does that say about lady drinks? That it has nothing to do with fucking hookers.

  3. #34011
    Quote Originally Posted by MrEnternational  [View Original Post]
    Last time I was in Cambodia they were trying to pull some shit where you have to buy a certain number of lady drinks before you can pay the hooker to fuck.
    Cambodia is awful now. Any good looking girl is now an Original meaning she does not go out for sex.

    Try Malio in Jakarta. The club in the basement. You need to buy 20 shots for a girl before she will even consider going upstairs with you. Too bad cause I saw a 9.5 at Malio and I hardly rate Asians more than an 8.

    Even in Thailand, seen this at Palace. Girls demand 20 drinks from their customers before being barfined.

    Bottom line, if you're a Weekend Millionaire and in your eyes she's the hottest girl you've ever seen, then you will be buying those drinks for her. As an expat, I have a totally different perspective of buying LD's than when I was a tourist. I need something from the girl before I buy her a LD.

  4. #34010

    Please come back

    Quote Originally Posted by MrEnternational  [View Original Post]
    Then guess what? In that situation you are being played. That totally defeats the purpose of going to Pattaya. If you think buying a drink somehow moves you to the fuck line then I have a blown up bridge in Ukraine to sell you.

    You don't invest money into a hooker like a slot machine hoping to hit 777. You go to Pattaya and hookers for the sure thing. As I said, you might as well stay home and buy drinks for the top chick at your local bar hoping that maybe one day she will let you fuck. What is the difference?
    Please come back to the days you actually had some good information, you were a trusted name for good information, been their to help me a couple times when need, now seems like you just want to fight with everyone about nothing, sir Lancelot gave more valuable information in last 3 days then you have in last (well long time) all because he wants to buy a few lady drinks and your budget not allowing you or you don't want to, it's his choice and most importantly gives boots on ground excellent reports!

  5. #34009
    Quote Originally Posted by MaxBkk  [View Original Post]
    A lot of the best girls don't go with anybody, so I believe it is a chess game to get the best out of the situation.

    Your approach will certainly work with mid tier girls, but it won't work for the InstaHo / Hottest of the hot model types.
    Then guess what? In that situation you are being played. And there is no shortage of foreigners in Thailand jumping off of balconies because they have been played. That totally defeats the purpose of going to Pattaya. If you think buying a drink somehow moves you to the fuck line then I have a blown up bridge in Ukraine to sell you.

    You don't invest money into a hooker like a slot machine hoping to hit 777. You go to Pattaya and hookers for the sure thing. As I said, you might as well stay home and buy drinks for the top chick at your local bar hoping that maybe one day she will let you fuck. What is the difference?

  6. #34008

    All right.

    I see people saying, you are there to fuck and no to buy drinks.

    Yea, you quote places like Brazil. Like Cambodia. Come on, this is Thailand. Its a different country altogether.

    Ya sure you can try no buying any lady drinks, but I think most people would prefer to add a drink or 2 to try and get a better experience altogether.

    Everyone has their own choice. May you look like tom cruise with 6 pacs, no lady drinks and even the best service comes to you at a discount.

    Maybe others look bald, fat and old. They need lady drinks to get a better service. Everyone has their own story too, not everyone circumstances are the same.

    Oh if you have problems buying even 1 lady drink in Thailand (for like 200 baht), you really shouldn't be travelling out of your own country altogether. That's just financially dangerous for you.

  7. #34007
    Quote Originally Posted by MrEnternational  [View Original Post]
    LOL. Next move? This is not chess. This is literally paying someone to fuck. Any move other than that is just you fooling yourself. In what other thread is someone saying you got to buy her some drinks if you want to be able to fuck a hooker.
    A lot of the best girls don't go with anybody, so I believe it is a chess game to get the best out of the situation.

    Your approach will certainly work with mid tier girls, but it won't work for the InstaHo / Hottest of the hot model types.

  8. #34006
    Quote Originally Posted by MaxBkk  [View Original Post]
    I totally agree with this, you cannot be a Cheap Charlie with a top of the rung girl that is in demand. Standard practice to buy them a drink once they sit down. Investing 1 or 2 drinks in a hottie is well worth it so you can judge what your next move is.
    I don't have to buy drinks for the girls and the girls rarely ask for drink in Scandallo which is considered by many with the most top of the rung girls in Brazil.

  9. #34005
    Quote Originally Posted by MaxBkk  [View Original Post]
    I totally agree with this, you cannot be a Cheap Charlie with a top of the rung girl that is in demand. Standard practice to buy them a drink once they sit down. Investing 1 or 2 drinks in a hottie is well worth it so you can judge what your next move is.
    LOL. Next move? This is not chess. This is literally paying someone to fuck. Any move other than that is just you fooling yourself. In what other thread is someone saying you got to buy her some drinks if you want to be able to fuck a hooker.

    I am a cut to the chase kind of guy. Is there any way I can pay an extra 300 baht to skip the drinks or are these drinks some kind of magic potion?

    Why is there no need to buy drinks for the top of the rung hottie that is in demand in a soapy? You simply tell the guy you will take number 116 and he says that will be 2000 baht.

    Last time I was in Cambodia they were trying to pull some shit where you have to buy a certain number of lady drinks before you can pay the hooker to fuck. I absolutely now understand how that was a thing. Because some guys will do anything for the honor of paying for pussy. I cursed her the fuck out though and said if you don't get from behind that bar and get to this hotel to fuck. No self-respecting monger is about to play those games.

  10. #34004

    No flights

    Quote Originally Posted by Explorer8939  [View Original Post]
    I haven't seen any working Russian ladies in a long time in Pattaya, but I am wondering if the current financial collapse in Russia is provoking any to come out of the woodwork.
    How will they get there with no flights and insurance brokers in London won't insure them, this is unlikely to change for years no flights anywhere planes grounded for years.

  11. #34003
    I haven't seen any working Russian ladies in a long time in Pattaya, but I am wondering if the current financial collapse in Russia is provoking any to come out of the woodwork.

  12. #34002
    Quote Originally Posted by Gonz0  [View Original Post]
    What is the main reason for the watered down ladies drinks? Is it to increase profit or for the lady to remain sober?

    How do they react when you drink the diluted stuff and give them the real tequila?
    Yes.

    They drink the real shot, and then I order more (up to 4).

  13. #34001
    Quote Originally Posted by Gonz0  [View Original Post]
    What is the main reason for the watered down ladies drinks? Is it to increase profit or for the lady to remain sober?
    I figure it is both of those reasons in addition to not ruining peoples' livers. Imagine if you had to go to work everyday and drink 10 shots of alcohol. Also, just because they are working in a bar does not mean they are drinkers. Not everyone wants to drink alcohol. Most of the time that I go into a bar I will drink club soda. Every blue moon I will get Sang Som. I have bottles on the bar in my room in Pattaya that have sat there over 10 years unopened. Most chicks do not even drink when they come over. They prefer water.

    Quote Originally Posted by Gonz0  [View Original Post]
    How do they react when you drink the diluted stuff and give them the real tequila?
    They want to add Coke or clubs soda to it.

  14. #34000

    Worst bar in Pattaya?

    My last day in Pattaya would prove to be a frustrating one with one of my worst experiences at a bar in SE Asia.

    But first I met Sam for breakfast at a place he recommended on soi 13 called The Sportsman. I had a decent full English and two cups of tea for 170 baht.

    We had a nice leisurely walk along the beach, past 'the oldest bar in Pattaya', Tahitian Queen, and had a cold beer in a nice relaxed beer-bar complex overlooking the beach. Sam then walked me around Central mall which struck me as a good place to take a girl. There is a cinema on the top floor, a bowling alley, arcade, lots of places to eat and of course plenty of shops. On second thoughts, maybe it isn't a good place to take a girl.

    I had a number of things I needed to do during the afternoon and met Sam at 6. 30 pm outside Subway. We agreed to start our bar crawl on soi Pothole. I passed a lovely looking girl at a massage-with-extras place before we settled on a bar called Korn Beer Bar. Sam chose the place because he recognised a pretty girl he'd seen at Olny LK Bar the night before. He bought her a drink but when he asked about the bar-fine she told him 'I not boom-boom'.

    We went to Annie Jacks next, a good bet for pretty girls. The girl I bought a ladydrink for on my first visit was with a customer but waved over to say Hello,. The big-boobed hottie I bought a drink for on my second visit was also with a customer, grinding on his lap just as she'd done with me.

    Interestingly Sam had been working on a girl from this bar for a while, buying her ladydrinks, and when he asked about meeting her on her day off, she agreed. But next day she sent him a Line message saying she couldn't meet as her Dad died. Before deleting it hastily. She was in the bar and didn't look like she was grieving, she was stood at the door, smiling and flirting with men as they walked past. She seemed to be going out of her way to avoid eye contact with Sam.

    It was a Sunday night and Tree Town was fairly quiet. It's worth pointing out though that although there there are less girls, there are significantly fewer customers too.

    We went to at Lai and again my favourite girl was with a Korean customer. I enjoy the thrill of the chase and I'm determined to buy this girl at least one lady-drink. She might not be the prettiest girl in the bar but there's something about her I can't resist. Or maybe I'm just too easily influenced by big tits.

    Sam decided to take me to a beer bar complex to the side of Tree Town, called Soi Made In Thailand I think.

    We had a drink in Sweet Hearts which had a pretty girl dancing on the bar. Sam told me he bar-fined her once but she somehow got herself locked in his bathroom. He had to call a locksmith out to free her in the middle of the night and strangely she accused him of locking her away on purpose. Judging by her frosty demeanour, I'm not sure she's forgiven him!

    Then came the worst bar I have ever visited, Sexy Bar.

    It started promisingly. I saw a pretty girl and immediately offered her a drink. She told me her name was Arisa and then said she had to go to the toilet. While she was away, I realised this bar is a live-stream bar. During the pandemic a number of bars found a way of making money by live-streaming and having lady-drinks bought for the girls by people sat on their computers on the other side of the world. Businesses have been hit hard by covid so good on them for being creative.

    But we now had a bizarre situation where me, Sam and another customer were completely invisible to the girls, as they danced, performed and raised their glasses to the webcam. They weren't even pretty girls, just an average selection of older looking girls, between 30 and 40, acting like TV celebrities.

    What a sad state of affairs that real customers are ignored in favour of virtual cusomers. This bar isn't a beer bar, it's a webcam bar.

    15 minutes had passed and there was no sign of Arisa. I pointed to her ladydrink and shrugged my shoulders to the mamasan. Where was she? The mamasan called her on her mobile and five minutes later she reappeared. But she didn't come and sit with me, she went in front of the webcam to continue her performance. Like all of the other girls she looked bored off camera but in front of the webcam, it was party time!

    Jokingly, I picked up her ladydrink and the ladydrink bill from my cup and placed it in front of the webcam. To be fair to the mamasan, she sensed my displeasure and said to me 'it okay, I cancel lady-drink'.

    What a terrible experience. Guys, if you are on a bar-crawl in Pattaya, avoid any bars that are live-streaming.

    We decided to go back on to soi Buakhao. There is a stretch of lively bars and we decided to stop at Sick Buffalo. There were some pretty girls sat with customers but none of those unaccompanied floated my boat. I bought a drink for an older waitress, to put a smile on her face.

    It was 10 pm and I needed to find a girl.

    We agreed to go to soi LK Metro and Sam insisted we go to Sugar Sugar so he can see his girl. But sadly for me, there were no other girls inside at all. Not one. I had hoped to see Nan, the gorgeous girl I bought a drink for the night before, but she wasn't there. That doesn't mean you go without company of course, the waitresses are thirsty for ladydrinks just as much as the gogo girls and I ended up buying one for a waitress I've share a bit of banter with.

    Two bars in row, slim pickings and I ended up buying drinks for a couple of older waitresses. Not what I had in mind for tonight.

    There was a pretty girl outside Pandora's so I invited her to sit inside with me and bought her a drink. She had shorter shoulder length hair and a cute face. If the price was right I would have 100% taken her for short-time, maybe even long-time if we clicked, but before I'd even taken two mouthfuls from my bottle of Chang beer she asked for a second lady-drink with a flutter of her eye-lashes. It's a tactic I've noticed in some bars that girls get a shot of tequila as their ladydrink, which they can finish quickly and then ask for another.

    I said 'maybe in a while' but she kept pestering me for one. She was cute but far too commercial, so I paid my chit and left. The bars were closing down when I stepped outside.

    What a disappointing night. Fair to say Sunday night is sleepy at the moment but I think it was just one of those nights we chose bars poorly (especially the awful Sexy Bar).

    Tomorrow I go to Bangkok and then I plan to head up Chiang Mai and Chiang Rai. I'll post reports on their respective pages. Afterwards I hope to return to Pattaya for at least another week to end my trip. By that time the bars will be able to stay open until midnight I believe, which will certainly help.

    Thanks for the nice feedback and apologies for the length of some of these diaries.

  15. #33999
    Quote Originally Posted by HorseTrader  [View Original Post]
    It all makes sense now. My Coca Cola girl claimed she was 19 and mamasan confirmed. The bar fine for her was 600 baht, which confirms 19 is old enough for sex work. So delicious, but at that time I needed another couple hours to recover from an earlier session. Timing is everything.
    Happy to explain it.

    Tho the further you get from the bigger centres, the looser they seem to be in caring about age limits.

    Also, once you've seen one Thai girls ID card you will understand how they can use someone elses card so easily to fake their age.

    They all get their ID cards done in such a way that they look nothing like it when made up and dolled up.

    Also, they can get a replacement card immediately almost anywhere for a very small cost.

    So they happily share cards around.

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