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  1. #32105
    Quote Originally Posted by MonkeyPaw  [View Original Post]
    It's part of being eternal and ageless. Besides those shows are good for building morals and ethics.

    This is what I am talking about when I keep saying there will always be some type of "game" required. The more you have, the better the success. BB is right, some just don't have the confidence or ability to game or peep out when someone else is gaming them. You have to be able to pick up on cues, body language, facial expressions, and tone of voice. But most importantly, like the great philosopher Tucker said, "Do you understand the words that are coming out of my mouth?" Go up to a girl in public and offer her money for sex while she is doing something else is idiotic. Heck, I don't do even that at a Gogo bar or Soi 6 bar, but Beach Road, yes! At the bars and clubs, I still have to gage them, pick up the vibes, and get the lowdown. Why? Because they all don't go with everybody and if you pressure them, it will just turn out shitty. It's just my mind process this information faster than most people. I call a girl for a drink, I see the tequila shot the waitress brings. By the time she comes down and sits with me, Monkeypaw drinks her tequila shot. Why? Tequila shot on first time call down means hustler. Big drink, at least she is willing to conversate and chill. Don't even waste my time anymore with that. At least I can work on my buzz, having paid for the drink anyways. If she wants, she can sit down just talk if she is really interested in letting me stick my dick in her. It's blunt, to the point, but very effective. Either way the drink ticket is hers to keep..
    How is this Helpful. You already knew she was a Hooker. LOL.

    I'm asking for others. I have No desire to play games with any kind of Thai girl.

  2. #32104
    Quote Originally Posted by ShiftTab  [View Original Post]
    Have you considered the possibility those claiming it's difficult to get a nonpro girl are from India? Almost all the Indian men who visit Thailand are there for the hookers, and they don't have any desire or ability to meet normal women. This has been my observation when I lived in Bangkok many years before.

    Maybe they think a normal nonpro girl who will talk to them has ulterior motives and only the ones clearly soliciting are safely going to offer their services for money? Who knows.
    Not sure where you are picking up the conversation but the topic has really nothing to do with Indians, race, or the motive of a non-pro.

  3. #32103

    Back to Game All Over Again

    Quote Originally Posted by BananaBoi  [View Original Post]
    Aren't you too young to know these TV shows?
    It's part of being eternal and ageless. Besides those shows are good for building morals and ethics.

    Quote Originally Posted by MrEnternational  [View Original Post]
    SNIP..I never said go to the market and offer 1,000 baht to a chick you like. You approach them as any other normal man I know approaches a female on planet earth. You converse with them and feel them out to see where their head is and exchange information and go from there. In places like Buakhao Market, if it turns out the chick is a hooker, then you pay her. If it turns out she is just a normal chick then you don't and you establish friendships and relationships from there... SNIP
    This is what I am talking about when I keep saying there will always be some type of "game" required. The more you have, the better the success. BB is right, some just don't have the confidence or ability to game or peep out when someone else is gaming them. You have to be able to pick up on cues, body language, facial expressions, and tone of voice. But most importantly, like the great philosopher Tucker said, "Do you understand the words that are coming out of my mouth?" Go up to a girl in public and offer her money for sex while she is doing something else is idiotic. Heck, I don't do even that at a Gogo bar or Soi 6 bar, but Beach Road, yes! At the bars and clubs, I still have to gage them, pick up the vibes, and get the lowdown. Why? Because they all don't go with everybody and if you pressure them, it will just turn out shitty. It's just my mind process this information faster than most people. I call a girl for a drink, I see the tequila shot the waitress brings. By the time she comes down and sits with me, Monkeypaw drinks her tequila shot. Why? Tequila shot on first time call down means hustler. Big drink, at least she is willing to conversate and chill. Don't even waste my time anymore with that. At least I can work on my buzz, having paid for the drink anyways. If she wants, she can sit down just talk if she is really interested in letting me stick my dick in her. It's blunt, to the point, but very effective. Either way the drink ticket is hers to keep.

    At the markets, you approach like a friend and pretend like know them from somewhere. Small talk with humor. Gage her interest and cues. Say that you changed your LINE. Get their LINE. Message them one day soliciting some sex for baht. Then immediately, apologize saying you accidentally thought you messaged someone else. And there is your bait. If they don't bite, apologize again and suggest you meet for some Crab Som Tum. Funny thing was back in the first lockdown last year, at Treetown and the Buakhao Markets, the girls approached me, always asking where am I going. They would do this even if I was just hanging out with people or eating. I thought there was an unwritten rule amongst hookers and Johns in Thailand about disturbing people when they are eating. But these girls don't give a damn nowadays. No respect for the rules of the game anymore. Anyways, here is Buakhao Market girl (I knew she was in the game from seeing her on TF and another member here had already hit it as well). She often goes there for take away at the Thai dessert stand. Her ams are about few centimeters shorter than Monkeypaw likes, but very doable, as she she makes it up in her ability to go deep. Just grab you a smoothie (preferably banana, no sugar, minimal milk) nearby, sit, chill, and relax. They will come. And if anybody is still in Pattaya, it's best to get out of that room to get some exercise and the markets are just dandy for that. My secret is to do your grocery shopping in small bits and pieces, not all at once. It's a deadly sin to be a sloth.
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  4. #32102
    Quote Originally Posted by MrEnternational  [View Original Post]
    After all these years I think I am finally putting 2 and 2 together. This is like some 40 Year Old Virgin shit. When I was 13,14, and 15 me and my friends had season passes for Six Flags. They had a teen disco called Graffiti's. Every Friday, Saturday, and Sunday we would go there and have a contest to see who could get the most phone numbers from chicks. In the Navy and college we would go to parties and clubs and meet chicks the same way.

    For the past 16 years I have been on this website talking about exploits mostly with normal chicks that I did not have to pay in various countries and so many people have called bullshit. I have never understood that so many guys see fucking normal women as some kind of extraordinary feat.

    But here we have a guy thinking he is bothering chicks if he talks to them without knowing for sure they are hookers. Another guy sees it as disrespectful to speak to women that may not be hookers. I am like wow; how have you guys managed to get through life?

    I never said go to the market and offer 1,000 baht to a chick you like. You approach them as any other normal man I know approaches a female on planet earth. You converse with them and feel them out to see where their head is and exchange information and go from there. In places like Buakhao Market, if it turns out the chick is a hooker, then you pay her. If it turns out she is just a normal chick then you don't and you establish friendships and relationships from there.

    For me it is second nature to talk to members of the opposite sex, but it seems for others it is kryptonite. In Thailand, besides hookers, there are plenty of great chicks that are not hookers, but I guess people do not want to bother or disrespect them by saying hello, how are you and having a normal conversation.
    Have you considered the possibility those claiming it's difficult to get a nonpro girl are from India? Almost all the Indian men who visit Thailand are there for the hookers, and they don't have any desire or ability to meet normal women. This has been my observation when I lived in Bangkok many years before.

    Maybe they think a normal nonpro girl who will talk to them has ulterior motives and only the ones clearly soliciting are safely going to offer their services for money? Who knows.

  5. #32101
    The province of Chonburi (where Pattaya is located) has issued a new set of regulations, closing down more businesses and making it difficult to leave the area without permission.

    It's unclear what the impact is going to be on the Buakhow market we were talking about will be. There may be no bargirls shopping there for a while.

    My mongering opportunities may be limited to having ladies come to my condo, since almost everything will be shut down.

  6. #32100
    Quote Originally Posted by BananaBoi  [View Original Post]
    Here is one of Explorer's first posts after "arriving" in Thailand.

    Seems like he is one of the guys who doesn't believe you (or I) are capable of picking up a normal Thai girl.

    I did something I no longer do very often, if at all. I sent Explorer a PM to meet up when he first arrived since I figured he may want a bit of help and see some girl's photos to see if they may be someone he wants to hook up with. He appeared to be a bit frustrated when he first arrived. Explorer didn't even have the common courtesy to respond to my PM. So much for me trying to be helpful.
    I am sure you can pick up as many "normal" Thai girls as you want.

    As for not responding to your PM, sorry, I thought it was from some normal Thai girl chasing after me.

    BTW, how is the weather in Pattaya today?

  7. #32099
    We want top Quality Pattaya agogo girls for 1,000 baht.

    To bleep with Free Normal eye glass shop or cosmetics girls.

    Seems strange. Is anyone actually going to Pattaya to hook up with Cashiers at Food land.

    Seems silly. Hahaha. Hahaha. Hahaha.

  8. #32098
    Quote Originally Posted by EihTooms  [View Original Post]
    But I'm not going to be a slave to bird-dogging pussy everywhere I go throughout the day, choose where to shop for groceries based on where off duty go-go girls shop and so on. I went to that market because I have other things to do right now too; buy produce! LOL.
    Thailand is no different than your home country. If you seem desperate and are going to seek a girl the girls will pick up on that. Just let it happen, not go look for it.

    Quote Originally Posted by MonkeyPaw  [View Original Post]
    Think of Pattaya as a big Jefferson High School, those in the game and can peep out who is who, are like the "Fonz. " The rest, the wannabes, are like Richie, Potsie, and Ralph, when it comes to chasing. And Lord forbid Chachi, who came here and is just stuck with Joanie.
    Aren't you too young to know these TV shows?

    Quote Originally Posted by Explorer8939  [View Original Post]
    My rule of thumb is, if they aren't obviously soliciting, don't bother them.
    Wish this worked the other way around when I have no interest in a girl yet she keeps bothering me.

    I have seen many guys in gogo bars and Thermae like this. If the girl doesn't make eye contact and smile at them they will assume the girl isn't interested in them.

    Quote Originally Posted by TourduMonde  [View Original Post]
    Yes, though these days it's hard to make decent money at it by first-world standards. Actually some online pros move to Thailand for lifestyle / cost of living reasons.
    Too many bad beats in online poker. Played a bit last week. Got 2 Royal Flushes in about 5 tournaments total, once on the flop! Eliminated 2 players in 1 hand after they just played for nearly 2 hours. Pretty poor poker simulation but good for my hobby fund. I prefer to sign up for IRL tournaments or cash tables around the world.

    Bit Siri.

  9. #32097
    Quote Originally Posted by MrEnternational  [View Original Post]
    For the past 16 years I have been on this website talking about exploits mostly with normal chicks that I did not have to pay in various countries and so many people have called bullshit. I have never understood that so many guys see fucking normal women as some kind of extraordinary feat.

    But here we have a guy thinking he is bothering chicks if he talks to them without knowing for sure they are hookers. Another guy sees it as disrespectful to speak to women that may not be hookers.
    Here is one of Explorer's first posts after "arriving" in Thailand.

    Quote Originally Posted by Explorer8939  [View Original Post]
    And, no, I won't be pursuing any freebies like the nonsense being posted here.
    Seems like he is one of the guys who doesn't believe you (or I) are capable of picking up a normal Thai girl.

    I did something I no longer do very often, if at all. I sent Explorer a PM to meet up when he first arrived since I figured he may want a bit of help and see some girl's photos to see if they may be someone he wants to hook up with. He appeared to be a bit frustrated when he first arrived. Explorer didn't even have the common courtesy to respond to my PM. So much for me trying to be helpful.

  10. #32096
    Quote Originally Posted by Explorer8939  [View Original Post]
    My rule of thumb is, if they aren't obviously soliciting, don't bother them.
    Quote Originally Posted by BananaBoi  [View Original Post]
    Some men don't have the confidence and/or ability to do this.
    Quote Originally Posted by DannyDuck  [View Original Post]
    I'm with you. Please Respect Thai girls. I can give Mr. E a pass. He lives there.
    After all these years I think I am finally putting 2 and 2 together. This is like some 40 Year Old Virgin shit. When I was 13,14, and 15 me and my friends had season passes for Six Flags. They had a teen disco called Graffiti's. Every Friday, Saturday, and Sunday we would go there and have a contest to see who could get the most phone numbers from chicks. In the Navy and college we would go to parties and clubs and meet chicks the same way.

    For the past 16 years I have been on this website talking about exploits mostly with normal chicks that I did not have to pay in various countries and so many people have called bullshit. I have never understood that so many guys see fucking normal women as some kind of extraordinary feat.

    But here we have a guy thinking he is bothering chicks if he talks to them without knowing for sure they are hookers. Another guy sees it as disrespectful to speak to women that may not be hookers. I am like wow; how have you guys managed to get through life?

    I never said go to the market and offer 1,000 baht to a chick you like. You approach them as any other normal man I know approaches a female on planet earth. You converse with them and feel them out to see where their head is and exchange information and go from there. In places like Buakhao Market, if it turns out the chick is a hooker, then you pay her. If it turns out she is just a normal chick then you don't and you establish friendships and relationships from there.

    For me it is second nature to talk to members of the opposite sex, but it seems for others it is kryptonite. In Thailand, besides hookers, there are plenty of great chicks that are not hookers, but I guess people do not want to bother or disrespect them by saying hello, how are you and having a normal conversation.

  11. #32095
    Quote Originally Posted by Explorer8939  [View Original Post]
    As I said, I see bargirl shopping at Buakhow market, but they are not soliciting customers. There are loads of women in Pattaya, but only a fraction are looking for customers; even bargirl can't be bothered outside of work, in many cases.

    My rule of thumb is, if they aren't obviously soliciting, don't bother them.
    If I am inspired to chat up a girl, P4P or not, at 11am next to the produce counters in my local market I would do it. Why not? Nothing to be shy about. If she responds it is also easy enough to exchange Line info to follow up later.

    But I'm not going to be a slave to bird-dogging pussy everywhere I go throughout the day, choose where to shop for groceries based on where off duty go-go girls shop and so on. I went to that market because I have other things to do right now too; buy produce! LOL.

    It turns out I am least interested in chasing and scoring pussy during the hours of the day when I have other things to do and most interested in chasing and scoring pussy when bars are typically open and bargirls are typically on the clock to meet customers.

    I can't be alone in this thinking. Otherwise, go-go bars would be open 8am to 6pm instead of 8pm to 2am. Those latter hours are the times I am most interested in meeting and fucking girls instead of buying produce at the market.

    I would rather pay more to meet and fuck girls during the hours of the evening I want to do that very thing than turn my regular day in and day out activities upside down and fuck them when I am least into it just to save a few baht. Not on a regular basis, that is.

  12. #32094
    Quote Originally Posted by DannyDuck  [View Original Post]
    Is America s Cardroom available in Thailand. Would make trips even more Fun.
    Yey! First question here I can actually answer. ACR is available in Thailand.

    However note that like a lots of other things in Thailand, online gambling is in the "illegal but not enforced" category.

    Quote Originally Posted by DannyDuck  [View Original Post]
    There are quite a few Poker players who win playing Poker online.

    It is a Skill.
    Yes, though these days it's hard to make decent money at it by first-world standards. Actually some online pros move to Thailand for lifestyle / cost of living reasons.

  13. #32093
    Quote Originally Posted by Explorer8939  [View Original Post]
    As I said, I see bargirl shopping at Buakhow market, but they are not soliciting customers. There are loads of women in Pattaya, but only a fraction are looking for customers; even bargirl can't be bothered outside of work, in many cases.

    My rule of thumb is, if they aren't obviously soliciting, don't bother them.
    I'm with you.

    Please Respect Thai girls.

    I can give Mr. E a pass. He lives there.

  14. #32092

    Happy Days

    Quote Originally Posted by Explorer8939  [View Original Post]
    I have never seen working ladies at the Buakhow market, unless you are simply saying that you pick up random ladies wherever they present themselves in Pattaya, like at Terminal 21 or Tukcom. I have been bar girls shopping at the market, but not there to find customers, often with their Thai boyfriend SNIP...
    The guys below have pretty much answered your question for me. All are long stay vets in Pattaya and know who is who, can pick up on cues and signs, and know the Pattaya scene better than most.

    Quote Originally Posted by MrEnternational  [View Original Post]
    You are supposed to be true to this, but you are acting new to this. Since when does a woman have to go out looking for a man for a man to find a woman? And Pattaya is the last place on earth that a chick needs to have a sign on that says she is available. I have been saying for years that a lot of gogo chicks go to the market for food when they wake up and before they go to work. Makes no difference though if guys are afraid to talk to them outside of a bar where they will pay 3 times more.
    Quote Originally Posted by BananaBoi  [View Original Post]
    See gogo girls all the time at Buakhao market, usually on their days off or before work. The other good small market to see them is the one on South Pattaya Road between Tukcom and WS. If you're lucky enough to be in Pattaya the week or two when they have that huge market in the church near Second and South Pattaya Road, go there! You'll see lots of gogo girls shopping before work. Some men don't have the confidence and/or ability to do this.
    Quote Originally Posted by XXL  [View Original Post]
    Thai girls will always be polite and kind. They will give you their line ID if you ask. They have a dead line ID they use to be polite and kind while at the same time not having anything to do with you. I could run a whole new social media network with the dead line IDs I've collected in Thailand.
    Quote Originally Posted by LittleBigMan  [View Original Post]
    SNIP... But the market on Tuesday and Friday end of Baukhao which isn't even close to what it was pre-covid working girls living nearby need to shop and eat but they aren't working! Tough to explain in words here but in general there are certain things to look for and taking a guess? Now I wouldn't just assume go up and grab their ass like Online will take some work even a bit of stalking?

    One, the manner of dress, tattoos, a problem if you look you aren't going to find isn't that always the case? The aisle where they sell women's clothes, cosmetics, particularly the cheap facial spas, even the food court area leading to Pattaya Tai. There is a second-hand market on the other side of the main market the congested area where the songthaew stop I've run into a number based on my stereotyping. Remember just because they are in the business doesn't mean while shopping they are open to being pick up 24/7 it takes work and luck.
    Monkeypaw can make reference to the one armed, shaved hair to one side of the head, missing teeth, too much make up wearing lady that walks up and down Buakhao, selling chewing gum. And I'm pretty certain all of those guys above will know who I am talking about. We just know the scene. Especially, since I have been here well over a year straight and with Pattaya at 90% contraction. Before it was 3-4 (one to two month long) trips a year as a tourist, no ThaiFriendly, and very very very few Beach Road adventures. It was Gogo bars or bust for me every night. Heck, I didn't even go to local markets like I do everyday now.

    But LBM is right, for newbies, it will take some stalking and paying attention. Connect the dots and make the connection from the ThaiFriendly profile to the girl buying morning glory. Think of Pattaya as a big Jefferson High School, those in the game and can peep out who is who, are like the "Fonz. " The rest, the wannabes, are like Richie, Potsie, and Ralph, when it comes to chasing. And Lord forbid Chachi, who came here and is just stuck with Joanie. Any new kid in a new high school will be on the outside looking in until they become familiar with the nerds, jocks, cheerleaders, teachers, and everybody else. Remember it's all in the mind. The more you know, the further you go.

  15. #32091
    Quote Originally Posted by MrEnternational  [View Original Post]
    You are supposed to be true to this, but you are acting new to this. Since when does a woman have to go out looking for a man for a man to find a woman? And Pattaya is the last place on earth that a chick needs to have a sign on that says she is available. I have been saying for years that a lot of gogo chicks go to the market for food when they wake up and before they go to work. Makes no difference though if guys are afraid to talk to them outside of a bar where they will pay 3 times more.
    As I said, I see bargirl shopping at Buakhow market, but they are not soliciting customers. There are loads of women in Pattaya, but only a fraction are looking for customers; even bargirl can't be bothered outside of work, in many cases.

    My rule of thumb is, if they aren't obviously soliciting, don't bother them.

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