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11-02-20 17:14 #31218
Posts: 411Originally Posted by BananaBoi [View Original Post]
Even pre Covid many shops were closing up.
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11-02-20 17:07 #31217
Posts: 411Originally Posted by BananaBoi [View Original Post]
It matters.
If he is middle age it's even more cringe. A Thai barmaid with a kid and old mother to support? Come on man.
At least with the Real Elders one can give them a pass. They are just old and Playing.
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11-02-20 13:14 #31216
Posts: 542Originally Posted by BananaBoi [View Original Post]
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11-02-20 09:42 #31215
Posts: 3102F. H.
When I read the reports it makes me CRINGE as to what already happened and what is about to.
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11-02-20 07:44 #31214
Posts: 6257Some photos from Walking Street the other night. Certainly not nearly as quiet as lead to believe.
New gogo bars opening soon so definitely not dying.
That's FL Hawk in the pink shirt lost looking for Secret.
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11-02-20 06:13 #31213
Posts: 6257Originally Posted by DannyDuck [View Original Post]
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11-02-20 04:31 #31212
Posts: 411Just saw a walk down Walking St. By a YouTuber. Absolute devastation. It may not recover.
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11-02-20 03:45 #31211
Posts: 1222Results Are In
Ratings are in for October and as expected Hawk's edge of the seat suspense drama on his relationship with a Thai working continued its dominance of the forum's readership.
It led comfortably in all demographics but had an off the charts record breaking 95% among the over 70's. .
Industry insiders put the phenomenal success of the series down to its relatability factor, most readers having had at one time or another similar tales of love lost and what might have been.
Returning to the ratings ET's updates on what's happening around town was a distant second and has been falling steadily over the months, readers finding his constant references to bare backing a turn off.
Going forward November's election coverage is expected to introduce some competition for Hawk but industry insiders say the story's fan base is so loyal and so invested in what happens next that holding the number one spot is a no brainer.
Inside chatter among media heads is that there is already a bidding war going on between Netflix and Amazon prime.
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11-02-20 00:26 #31210
Posts: 542Update on Secret 8
We have been having some interesting discussions on the board, one subject having to deal with the true meaning of what Secret last texted. That will be revealed shortly guys.
But before I go on let me quickly inject a side story. For whatever reason, I had not yet considered that she may have a social media account. Rather dumb of me not to consider that. But a couple of months after this event, I thought to look and I found it. I found that at this very same time something else was going on in her life. Just a couple of days later she posted a message on her account saying that the day would be "very discouraging" and would be the "worst day of my life". What the hell? She also said she would start again with new things the next day and, indeed, the next day she posted that she was "feeling confident". Again, what the hell? What could possibly be happening to make something the worst day of her life one day and then for her to have confidence that all would ok the next? But yeah, it seemed that while I was complaining to her about not texting much in the last few days, she was stressed about something horrible and possibly life changing that would occur just a couple of days later. No wonder she was not texting me and why she snapped at me! It was like with Korea. In the days leading up to that decision she pretty much went silent and ignored me. This was happening again. Something was bothering her and she didn't want to burden me with it for fear I would walk away (I supposed). I will say that while I have an idea of what happened, gleaned from another source or two that has since been lost and / deleted, I really don't know. But if I am right, she would indeed be very upset up until after it happened, with some peace thereafter.
OK, back to the story. To remind, she had told me "I don't work in the factory. Like working in bar. " I will add that she wrote the original message in Thai, then she translated it to English, using Google Translate I believe, then sent it to me over Line. The words and punctuation I received are as I presume Google processed them.
Well, to me, the meaning was clear. She didn't work at the factory anymore as she discovered that she like working in the bar better. The wording was a little off, but I am used to errors on Google Translate. And with her two-day absence from texting me and other little things, it seemed pretty clear she was off doing something, and I guess she went off to Pattaya to work in the bar again. What other city would she go to work in a bar? I have heard of BGs who say they hate the work but, after leaving and finding a legit job, they soon return to the bar. I can understand that. Bar work is physically easy and it can be fun, at least once you get used to have sex with strangers and all of that. Not to mention that the pay might be much better. And I knew that for the last 6 months Secret had not made much money being away from the bar. I she felt she had to return to the bar then, well, a girl has to do what a girl has to do.
Anyway, romantic me wrote back saying "I wondered about that. It is hard to leave the bar. " Yeah, really wise, Hawk. Stupid idiot. Let you know you don't trust her.
She confused me a bit with her reply, "But getting out of the bar was easy for me". Huh? So it was easy to leave but she is back? So to clarify, I asked "Are you back in Pattaya?" Another stupid response to really get the point across I don't trust her. Sigh. She snapped "You think I returned to Pattaya? I have to stay awake to answer your questions, right? If you think I went to Pattaya, I won't say anything more. " She was a bit upset. I say, confused "You just told me you were not working at the factory and you liked working in a bar! I am confused. " She replied "I said that I would never go back to Pattaya. I hate that place. " She continued "I told you that I work at a company. I don't have time to talk to you like I did when I work at the bar. ".
Ok. There it is. Chalk up another mistranslation, and chalk up two insensitive texts by me. And congratulations to Mr. E and Banana Boi! You called it exactly right, with Mr. E saying:
To me it reads nothing like that. It says working in the factory is not the same as working in a bar. In a bar you have all the free time in the world to goof off and write love messages, take 1 million meaningless pictures. In a factory you are on an assembly line working at a constant pace and when you get a break you just want to relax a moment and have time for yourself. I am tired. Give me a fucking break with the needy bullshit. Spot on, haha, except that she was facing the worst day of her life coming up.
I was correct in realizing that something was up. I raised the point, though in a less than sensitive way to her. She snapped back as the was trying to keep me halfway satisfied so I would not dump her, yet while dealing and planning for this upcoming, horrible event she didn't want to talk about with me. That I accused her of returning to the bar, a big sign of mistrust, just made things worse and added to her worries. Knowing what I now, and if my guess about what was happening is correct, she should have felt comfortable coming to me. Maybe she would have had I not shown my mistrust first.
So for you hapless gentlemen who falls for a BG, be very careful before you accuse your special lady of something. Think about what her life is like before you complain. It is ok to do some research so you don't get blindsided with something obvious, but if you suspect something, unless she is asking for something from you to where you must respond immediately, consider doing nothing. Wait. I, sensing something was wrong, automatically assumed she was drifting away. Maybe she was, but my complaining was a bit juvenile. If I had kept quiet, all would have returned to normal in another 5 days and there would not have been a betrayal of my trust and, as I said, she might have opened up to me about it.
Anyway, a week or two later she lost her job due to the virus. Many places in Thailand started to shut down. Then her mother and younger sister came to town and stayed with the older sister. Secret tried to find work in Bangkok but ended up deciding to go home with the others where it was safe. She still was due two land payments from me, so with the money she had made working since after the Phuket trip, she felt she had some time to wait for things to settle. And no, I was not giving her any other money, nor did she ask for any more. So, again, she had NEVER asked me for money.
Things kind of returned to normal when she got back home. Texting returned to a normal schedule similar to what it had been before the Phuket trip, but while friendly and with some flirting, there was still nothing that I considered special. Looking back, the fact she kept texting me might have been special, well, except that I was still sending her farm loan money. Let me say she never appeared she was texting me to keep me sending money. I was still expecting to see her in April and take that crise with her, but I was less optimistic about us continuing on much beyond that. And, of course, the country and then the world began to shut down and it soon became apparent there would be no cruise and it could be a long time before we could see each other again. I started to get a feeling Secret was in for hard financial times and that I might get sucked in. Was I prepared for that? Surely thing would be coming back to normal my mid-year! Right?
But a week or two after the family returned home I got another one of those bloody photos. Her younger sister had been in a horrible auto accident. This is real guys. Just like the motorbike accident was real, this was real with a real call out for blood donors. It is all documented in social media. Her teenaged sister's leg was crushed and fractured into pieces and pieces. It looked horrible. She was in horrible pain. She would likely lose a leg. Here is yet another horror for Secret to deal with. She needs to find work, but her baby sister needs her even more at the hospital over 100 miles from home (the local hospital could not deal with that level of trauma and had to transport her to a large city). The mother can't provide care. The oldest sister has two children of her own, including a toddler, and a job in Bangkok and can't provide care. Yet again, Secret has to do it, and she wants to do it.
I see that this is one time Secret really needs some emotional support. Am I up to the task? Or is there someone else she will turn to?
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11-02-20 00:21 #31209
Posts: 1683Originally Posted by FLHawk [View Original Post]
You would need to make such request casually as in "I can't find your factory on my map. Can you send me your location to help me understand?“
If she has nothing to hide, she will do it. If she says she is in BKK while she is actually in Pattaya, she will make excuses and not send it.
I've had several non-P4P girls send me pictures of interesting things and I ask location. Never have they hesitated to send their location. Camping vacation places. Temples. Beaches. Floating market. Rivers. A couple have even sent location from parents homes in Isaan. But these are non-P4P girls who aren't hiding anything, all of whom I've gotten to know from time spent together and many hours in video chat.
I've also done it with P4P girls that I met on ThaiFriendly or at the bars. In those cases it has been when we were trying to find each other. That's where imprecise accuracy is sometimes a problem.
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11-01-20 22:08 #31208
Posts: 542Originally Posted by MrEnternational [View Original Post]
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11-01-20 21:57 #31207
Posts: 921Originally Posted by Paolo99 [View Original Post]
But as you probably noted, she said that she doesn't work in the factory.
For the second sentence, I'm sure of the translation, she likes to work in the bar.
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11-01-20 21:11 #31206
Posts: 15811Originally Posted by FLHawk [View Original Post]
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11-01-20 20:32 #31205
Posts: 921Originally Posted by FLHawk [View Original Post]
If she effectively wrote in Thai first and then translated it via an application or google translate, the meaning of these sentences is very clear, misunderstanding what she meant is not possible.
She said she doesn't like working in the factory, she likes working in the bar.
Thais don't use the word "like" as a synonym of the word "same".
If she wanted to say "working in the factory is the same as working in the bar" or "working in the factory is not the same as working in the bar" she would have used another word that would have been translated as the word "same" by google translate or another app. And she would have used the word "same" also if it came out of her mind without using a translate app.
The only Thais that could use the word "like" as a synonym of "same" are Thais that are highly educated and can write and speak English very well, what seems to not be the case with your girl.
You're going to tell us what she said after that in your next update but for me the translation seems correct, she likes to work in the bar.
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11-01-20 18:58 #31204
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