Pattaya Reports

[Danny Duck]

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[German Man]

FL, I am following your story with great interest. It doesn't provide any insight in prices and services, but it definitely is a good piece of writing and very entertaining to read. The best stories are written by real life.

It's also interesting for me because a similar story happened to me. It was in a different country and the lady I*met was a freebie who looked for casual sex. Not sure how the Secret story will end, but like in your story, unexpected things happened in my story. It is still ongoing so I*might publish it at some time, but I am not a good writer like you. Keep up the good work!

[Danny Duck]

Is secret facially challenge, perhaps a 4 or 5?

I'm pretty sure the good lookers know they going to Korea to provide Sex.

[PedroMorales]

I'm guessing that the Thai farm has been in the family for many years. It seems a bit curious that this is the moment they are about to lose the farm with only 6 remaining payments. I don't know anything about the Thai mortgage system, but I'd raise the BS flag on that.

That bore deserves whatever he gets. A real case of being off his meds. How is the horse trading? I missed out on the fairs over summer.

[Mr Enternational]

I'm guessing that the Thai farm has been in the family for many years. It seems a bit curious that this is the moment they are about to lose the farm with only 6 remaining payments. I don't know anything about the Thai mortgage system, but I'd raise the BS flag on that.

Well what fucks my mind is that this is supposed to be a collective culture, but some always seem to be in need. You got 18 mfs living in the house. You mean to tell me you can't find a way to get 100 baht each? Even consider their other family members and friends. They can't take up a collection to save the farm? Even they could go to their facebook and get 50 baht from everybody on their friends list.

In the Black American community in the 60's and 70's if someone could not come up with their payment they would have what is called a rent party. Everyone came to a party at the house and paid an entrance fee, therefore they would have the money for the rent.

[HorseTrader]

OK, Secret said she is going to S. Korea under a 2-year contract to work on a vegetable farm and make enough money to pay off the farm to provide a better life for her family.

I have no idea what Secret is thinking at this point, but I couldn't dismiss her stated plan because it's a realistic way to make some money

Right now I have a Thai lady friend who is in Europe working in the food service industry, she started in June 2019 and expects to return to Thailand in July 2021. Weekly video chats indicate she is doing well and that she sends good chunks of money to Thailand. That system works for her. I have another Thai lady friend who hasn't worked since April and is considering doing something similar. Both of these ladies were hotties 10 years ago but are now past their Nana Plaza P4P sell by dates (both still look good enough for Soi 6).

Unless FL Hawk is ready to marry Secret, it seems to me that the best approach might be to buy her a bottle of sunscreen and say goodbye. Find someone else for the Phuket trip.

I'm guessing that the Thai farm has been in the family for many years. It seems a bit curious that this is the moment they are about to lose the farm with only 6 remaining payments. I don't know anything about the Thai mortgage system, but I'd raise the BS flag on that.

[MeltonPie]

FLHawk.

I haven't being paying attention.

When did all this happen?

Has she got a passport?

Why didn't you just take her to South Korea and verify the story?

[Paolo99]

Or, if not, did she take my money and still run off to SK or simply feel I was not an easy target for money and it was best to move on? Haha Sooooo many possibilities.

Your posts and the story about that girl are showing that you are an easy target for money.

[Dg8787]

FLHawk.

Send her the dang money! Shit, how the hell did you make it in life? Analysis paralysis at its finest.

[Banana Boi]

I just had to figure out what her financial requirements for the immediate future were. And it was simple she had to pay the current mortgage that was due in 10 days! And do that 5 more times in subsequent months. Pay six times on time and the mortgage is paid!

That's all she needed? 6 months mortgage payments? I would have paid that for someone I truly like in a heartbeat, whether she is a bargirl or a civilian girl making 300 baht per day. I'm assuming mortgage payments in North Thailand aren't huge.

Curious as to how much she was told she was going to make in Korea as a farmer?

[Member #4698]

I still don't get it. So, the broad was going to South Korea on a sex junket. What's the big deal. Lots of girls go to South Korea, Japan, Singapore to "work". Then they return to Thailand with money and happy memories or they are fleeced and taken advantage of. Either way they return and you can pick up where you left off.

My Mini has been to Japan several times. One winter she sent me pics of herself on skis at a real nice resort near Mt Fuji. She was having fun. I met Atomic on the night she returned to RB4 after a long trip to Japan. She said she liked Japan and she had met her at the time American boyfriend in Tokyo. A boyfriend means he gets it for free while I pay Atomic, so by definition, I am not her boyfriend, thank Buddha, but I still love her, ha ha. I just don't want to own her, change her, or be responsible for her. On several different occasions she forgot to turn off her cell phone and a different boyfriend tried to call while we were shagging. She let the phone ring and called him back later after we were done and while I was relaxing smokin' a Cohiba on the balcony. I could hear her make up excuses as to why she did not answer his call. Then she would join me on the balcony and we would laugh and talk about it.

But getting down to your case: I still don't see what the big deal was. You liked the girl before South Korea, so why can't you like the girl after South Korea? Same girl except you fucked things up by bringing emotional BS into the relationship. Now, thanks to your bungling, she has lied to you and she has conned you out of some money. Now that she knows you can be had, it won't stop. The relationship is shot in and it is your fault. Oh well, live and learn. There are always another 100 girls right around the corner just your type. But next time don't blow it! Or blow it if that's what turns you on. It is entirely up to you.

[PedroMorales]

Do not fall in love with hookers.

One of the worst things about SE Asia is bar bores who won't stfu about "their" women. Good post but God, that guy is a bore.

[Sammon]

Dudes, enough about buying LDs over the internet! Haha.


I did have the money to pay. A negligible amount for me, a life changing event for her if she agreed to my help.

If she was scamming me, she would likely jump at any offer I made to give her a bunch of money. But rather than ask me how much money I would give her, the question was, "How will you help me?

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Looks like you still have not got over this woman. She scammed you. Plain and simple. All the money is hard earned and it is valuable. Do not justify her actions. Obviously you are not the only person she scammed.

I too got scammed once. I sent 400 pesos fare to a girl for transportation. Did it bother me? Ofcourse! She continued to give lots of reasons why she could not come and there was no way she could give the money back.

Just move on and chalk this up to experience. Do not get scammed again.

Do not fall in love with hookers.

[FL Hawk]

Dudes, enough about buying LDs over the internet! Haha.

OK, Secret said she is going to S. Korea under a 2-year contract to work on a vegetable farm and make enough money to pay off the farm to provide a better life for her family. She feels she has no other options as the bank is about to foreclose after giving her extra time months earlier. My first thoughts are of concern for her. I mean, I like this woman. I was looking forward to going to Phuket with her in just a few weeks and now that won't happen. I feel sick in the stomach and blindsided. I knew something was up as she had gone dark on me, but going to SK in a few days, maybe to never see or speak to me again? And to go work on a farm? Really? Am I missing something here? (duh, probably!

To accept this story and what she is supposedly about to do, you have to accept that she is a proud woman, perhaps ashamed that she degraded herself to go work in Pattaya. Add that she failed to make the money she had expected to make there, and since I had not been helping her, her only remaining option was to go to SK to do, well, whatever she is going to do. Ask me for help? Well, from her standpoint, if I actually cared and wanted to help, I would have recognized her plight and would have offered to help weeks ago. But I did not offer any help. I was still not sure I could trust her to simply give her money, though had she first discussed this with me several weeks earlier, I may have. But she did not and now she had run out of options.

She did not want to talk about her decision at first, but I said she owed me an explanation and she began to give me the details. She did not volunteer any information, but she replied to every question I had without fumbling, which was a good sign. Over the hours, I became convinced she was being mostly truthful. We discussed details and she sent some photos of some documents I was partially able to decipher, so she was at least willing to go into the details and provide some backup into her decision. But she was pretty resolute about her need to go as it was what she "had to do". She was quite stoic in saying this was the only solution for her needs. She looked at how much she would make over a 2-year period and how that would transform her family. She may have been trying to make me understand why she had to go and that regardless of how she felt about me or even herself or of the work that she would be doing, her family's needs came first and she did not want to burden me with her hardships. She felt responsible for the fate of her family and if she had to go to SK, then SK she would go. But I knew that she would be in for a horrible experience. Could I let her go? Could I even stop her now? I owed her nothing at that point, but I could easily afford to help her and I had said she was "special", so was it time for me to prove it and do something to help her, or might it be best for me to take this opportunity to walk away?

She had explained the entire deal to me. She was not just packing a bag and flying to SK. Oh no. A neighbor who had worked in SK got her in contact with an agent, and she had been working with him this last week, working out a deal. It was a bit complicated but made sense, though he was certainly exploiting her desperation. I mostly believed her story. You can disagree with me, and I could write pages here to relate what she told me and why I believe, but many of you will still disagree and repeat yet again we can't trust BGs and are absolute fools to do to, and besides I am making everything up and droning on too long, so I won't bother. Haha.

And as I said earlier, I like this woman. I am not sure why necessarily, but I do. Foolish? Of course, but I decided that I did not want her to leave. I was really scared for her. We had shared thousands of text messages and we got to know a lot about each other and this was a good woman who needed some help. If I could drop some money to keep her in Thailand and thus keep the Phuket trip alive, I decided I was willing to do that. She felt there were no options. But no contract had yet been signed nor am I exactly poor, so of course there were options.

Now, I had been assuming that she truly was going to SK. But the other possibility was that the entire trip to SK was a scam and she never had any intentions of going. If I went along with it, she could get money to 'save the farm' and still go to Phuket. If I didn't fall for it and not offer to send money, she could later claim the deal for SK fell through and we could still go to Phuket, and she could still ask for money in the meantime, though not as much. Such a scam was a real possibility and one I considered. It was only after going into the details of the agreement she was about to sign did I come to dismiss it. I cannot prove 100% she was not scamming me, but months later I found her social media page and right there, days before we were having this discussion, she had a post telling everyone she was going to Korea. (Was this, too, part of the scam? A fake post for me to possibly discover? No. If she was thinking about me reading her social media a year ago there would be subsequent posts that she would NOT have made! Haha I may bring up a few later on.).

I just had to figure out what her financial requirements for the immediate future were. And it was simple – she had to pay the current mortgage that was due in 10 days! And do that 5 more times in subsequent months. Pay six times on time and the mortgage is paid! It only gets complicated if you have to bring in an exploitative, greedy agent and a contract.

I did have the money to pay. A negligible amount for me, a life changing event for her if she agreed to my help. I felt I knew her fairly well. I knew she was big on loyalty and keeping promises. So to get her attention away from what she felt she HAD to do, I said, "You told me would you go to Phuket with me next month then go on a cruise with me in April. I have spent money on reservations and plan. Don't break your promises to me. I can help you. " She said "No one can pay for me. ".

If she was scamming me, she would likely jump at any offer I made to give her a bunch of money. But rather than ask me how much money I would give her, the question was, "How will you help me?

I replied that I could pay it all for her if she would keep her word to me. What then happened? She was hesitant. She told me she would need the first payment to the bank by the 5th. Could I do that? I said that I could. She said she was to sign the contract with that dude in just a few days, kind of implying if she trusted me to send the money and I didn't, she might lose it all. I said yes, I can get her the first payment on time. As she contemplated this new option, she started to open up a bit. She said "I am afraid of traveling. I can't think of anything else to do. " (And I knew she was thusly afraid as we had talked about this months earlier.) She asked what I wanted from her to do this, not a question I would have expected from one simply out for money and looking to run away with it. I said she only had to do what we had already planned to do, namely for her to go to Phuket with me in November and take a cruise with me from Singapore next April.

It did take her a while to accept my offer. I think she was very aware that she had to trust me entirely, but it was trust me now or go to SK. But she knew me and I had yet to let her down, so she did agree. She cancelled with the agent, I sent her the first payment, she paid it to the bank (I presumed) and we begin to finalize our plans for Phuket.

So with Secret safely at home, will we meet up in Bangkok and fly off to Phuket in a few more weeks? And, if so, can we stand being around each other nearly 24 hours a day for nearly 2 weeks? Or, if not, did she take my money and still run off to SK or simply feel I was not an easy target for money and it was best to move on? Haha Sooooo many possibilities.

[Turgid]

He probably is the manager, and in regards to the post before this "sad wankers" are the eternal bane to all of us. This includes the sad wankers who fall in love with bar girls and take them back to the west or send them allowance, or sad wankers who feel they need to pay more in order to be able to compete with the non sad non wankers. They have always been there, just this mutation is the worse as these sad wankers get literally nothing for their spent dollars euros pounds etc.

Well, if you're in the US the choice is to sadly wank or to sadly bang stout hookers. Seeing that we're all concerned about expenditure, wanking is cheaper.