Pattaya Reports

[FL Hawk]

Dudes, enough about buying LDs over the internet! Haha.

OK, Secret said she is going to S. Korea under a 2-year contract to work on a vegetable farm and make enough money to pay off the farm to provide a better life for her family. She feels she has no other options as the bank is about to foreclose after giving her extra time months earlier. My first thoughts are of concern for her. I mean, I like this woman. I was looking forward to going to Phuket with her in just a few weeks and now that won't happen. I feel sick in the stomach and blindsided. I knew something was up as she had gone dark on me, but going to SK in a few days, maybe to never see or speak to me again? And to go work on a farm? Really? Am I missing something here? (duh, probably!

To accept this story and what she is supposedly about to do, you have to accept that she is a proud woman, perhaps ashamed that she degraded herself to go work in Pattaya. Add that she failed to make the money she had expected to make there, and since I had not been helping her, her only remaining option was to go to SK to do, well, whatever she is going to do. Ask me for help? Well, from her standpoint, if I actually cared and wanted to help, I would have recognized her plight and would have offered to help weeks ago. But I did not offer any help. I was still not sure I could trust her to simply give her money, though had she first discussed this with me several weeks earlier, I may have. But she did not and now she had run out of options.

She did not want to talk about her decision at first, but I said she owed me an explanation and she began to give me the details. She did not volunteer any information, but she replied to every question I had without fumbling, which was a good sign. Over the hours, I became convinced she was being mostly truthful. We discussed details and she sent some photos of some documents I was partially able to decipher, so she was at least willing to go into the details and provide some backup into her decision. But she was pretty resolute about her need to go as it was what she "had to do". She was quite stoic in saying this was the only solution for her needs. She looked at how much she would make over a 2-year period and how that would transform her family. She may have been trying to make me understand why she had to go and that regardless of how she felt about me or even herself or of the work that she would be doing, her family's needs came first and she did not want to burden me with her hardships. She felt responsible for the fate of her family and if she had to go to SK, then SK she would go. But I knew that she would be in for a horrible experience. Could I let her go? Could I even stop her now? I owed her nothing at that point, but I could easily afford to help her and I had said she was "special", so was it time for me to prove it and do something to help her, or might it be best for me to take this opportunity to walk away?

She had explained the entire deal to me. She was not just packing a bag and flying to SK. Oh no. A neighbor who had worked in SK got her in contact with an agent, and she had been working with him this last week, working out a deal. It was a bit complicated but made sense, though he was certainly exploiting her desperation. I mostly believed her story. You can disagree with me, and I could write pages here to relate what she told me and why I believe, but many of you will still disagree and repeat yet again we can't trust BGs and are absolute fools to do to, and besides I am making everything up and droning on too long, so I won't bother. Haha.

And as I said earlier, I like this woman. I am not sure why necessarily, but I do. Foolish? Of course, but I decided that I did not want her to leave. I was really scared for her. We had shared thousands of text messages and we got to know a lot about each other and this was a good woman who needed some help. If I could drop some money to keep her in Thailand and thus keep the Phuket trip alive, I decided I was willing to do that. She felt there were no options. But no contract had yet been signed nor am I exactly poor, so of course there were options.

Now, I had been assuming that she truly was going to SK. But the other possibility was that the entire trip to SK was a scam and she never had any intentions of going. If I went along with it, she could get money to 'save the farm' and still go to Phuket. If I didn't fall for it and not offer to send money, she could later claim the deal for SK fell through and we could still go to Phuket, and she could still ask for money in the meantime, though not as much. Such a scam was a real possibility and one I considered. It was only after going into the details of the agreement she was about to sign did I come to dismiss it. I cannot prove 100% she was not scamming me, but months later I found her social media page and right there, days before we were having this discussion, she had a post telling everyone she was going to Korea. (Was this, too, part of the scam? A fake post for me to possibly discover? No. If she was thinking about me reading her social media a year ago there would be subsequent posts that she would NOT have made! Haha I may bring up a few later on.).

I just had to figure out what her financial requirements for the immediate future were. And it was simple – she had to pay the current mortgage that was due in 10 days! And do that 5 more times in subsequent months. Pay six times on time and the mortgage is paid! It only gets complicated if you have to bring in an exploitative, greedy agent and a contract.

I did have the money to pay. A negligible amount for me, a life changing event for her if she agreed to my help. I felt I knew her fairly well. I knew she was big on loyalty and keeping promises. So to get her attention away from what she felt she HAD to do, I said, "You told me would you go to Phuket with me next month then go on a cruise with me in April. I have spent money on reservations and plan. Don't break your promises to me. I can help you. " She said "No one can pay for me. ".

If she was scamming me, she would likely jump at any offer I made to give her a bunch of money. But rather than ask me how much money I would give her, the question was, "How will you help me?

I replied that I could pay it all for her if she would keep her word to me. What then happened? She was hesitant. She told me she would need the first payment to the bank by the 5th. Could I do that? I said that I could. She said she was to sign the contract with that dude in just a few days, kind of implying if she trusted me to send the money and I didn't, she might lose it all. I said yes, I can get her the first payment on time. As she contemplated this new option, she started to open up a bit. She said "I am afraid of traveling. I can't think of anything else to do. " (And I knew she was thusly afraid as we had talked about this months earlier.) She asked what I wanted from her to do this, not a question I would have expected from one simply out for money and looking to run away with it. I said she only had to do what we had already planned to do, namely for her to go to Phuket with me in November and take a cruise with me from Singapore next April.

It did take her a while to accept my offer. I think she was very aware that she had to trust me entirely, but it was trust me now or go to SK. But she knew me and I had yet to let her down, so she did agree. She cancelled with the agent, I sent her the first payment, she paid it to the bank (I presumed) and we begin to finalize our plans for Phuket.

So with Secret safely at home, will we meet up in Bangkok and fly off to Phuket in a few more weeks? And, if so, can we stand being around each other nearly 24 hours a day for nearly 2 weeks? Or, if not, did she take my money and still run off to SK or simply feel I was not an easy target for money and it was best to move on? Haha Sooooo many possibilities.

[Turgid]

He probably is the manager, and in regards to the post before this "sad wankers" are the eternal bane to all of us. This includes the sad wankers who fall in love with bar girls and take them back to the west or send them allowance, or sad wankers who feel they need to pay more in order to be able to compete with the non sad non wankers. They have always been there, just this mutation is the worse as these sad wankers get literally nothing for their spent dollars euros pounds etc.

Well, if you're in the US the choice is to sadly wank or to sadly bang stout hookers. Seeing that we're all concerned about expenditure, wanking is cheaper.

[Sammon]

Buddy in Pattaya shared a clip from a now deleted stream on Wraiths website. Some cute girl has 4 shots of tequila. A overweight guy comes over and starts grabbing her boobs and hanging on her in front of the camera. He then grabs one of the tequilas takes a smell and goes "its water its fkn water". Video now deleted haha. Like of course it was water.

A girl in AC bar told me if they choose fruit juice as a lady drink she will get higher cut of money. I guess if they choose water it will be more money for her.

[Mr Enternational]

Buddy in Pattaya shared a clip from a now deleted stream on Wraiths website.

If you mean Wrath Bar, that is where the original pictures were from when I first posted about the guy buying drinks while not physically there. I did taste the drinks and it was watered down apple juice. Whenever I buy a chick a drink in a bar it is always Sangsom on the rocks, the same thing I am drinking. They do not get to choose one of those bullshit lady drinks.

[GinAndTonic555]

Buddy in Pattaya shared a clip from a now deleted stream on Wraiths website. Some cute girl has 4 shots of tequila. A overweight guy comes over and starts grabbing her boobs and hanging on her in front of the camera. He then grabs one of the tequilas takes a smell and goes "its water its fkn water". Video now deleted haha. Like of course it was water.

[HorseTrader]

I spent 10 minutes watching a live stream from a soi 6 bar on YouTube and it was just depressing. The only comprehensible thing they said was "thank you ka" and they repeatedly all chanted together "ring a bell! Ring a bell!" And they were clearly drinking water but pretending they were tequila shots.

There really do seem to be enough sad wankers in the world to pay for this shit so I think it will continue. However, I don't think it will continue in bar areas because some entrepreneur could just set up some out of town studio made to look like a bar and save on overheads.

I've watched this craziness a few minutes each of the last 3 days. I jump from bar to bar and I cannot say if it is more pathetic from the girls' end or the men's end. I'm surprised that anybody buys a drink, but it happens more than I would have expected. 150 baht per drink. I get bored watching after about 2 minutes per bar. I don't see the point from a man's perspective. I guess the girls just don't have a better option to earn money.

I never heard the bell ring, but one girl quoted 2500 baht to ring the bell.

I didn’t watch long enough to see if private video sessions exist, but I suspect that can be arranged. From what I’ve seen, the girl quality is typical of Soi 6.

[Danny Duck]

Is the dude sitting alone at the bar with none of the girls even looking at him also live streaming the girls at that place?

I hear internet may be turned off soon. Something about protests. LOL.

[Member #4667]

Is the dude sitting alone at the bar with none of the girls even looking at him also live streaming the girls at that place?

He probably is the manager, and in regards to the post before this "sad wankers" are the eternal bane to all of us. This includes the sad wankers who fall in love with bar girls and take them back to the west or send them allowance, or sad wankers who feel they need to pay more in order to be able to compete with the non sad non wankers. They have always been there, just this mutation is the worse as these sad wankers get literally nothing for their spent dollars euros pounds etc.

[EihTooms]

I stole a couple of my buddy's pictures to show how the livesteam is going. Computers and internet have made this world go crazy. I guess they no longer want customers to be physically at the bar. Virtual customers only. LOL.

Is the dude sitting alone at the bar with none of the girls even looking at him also live streaming the girls at that place?

[Whoreman]

I stole a couple of my buddy's pictures to show how the livesteam is going. Computers and internet have made this world go crazy. I guess they no longer want customers to be physically at the bar. Virtual customers only. LOL.

I spent 10 minutes watching a live stream from a soi 6 bar on YouTube and it was just depressing. The only comprehensible thing they said was "thank you ka" and they repeatedly all chanted together "ring a bell! Ring a bell!" And they were clearly drinking water but pretending they were tequila shots.

There really do seem to be enough sad wankers in the world to pay for this shit so I think it will continue. However, I don't think it will continue in bar areas because some entrepreneur could just set up some out of town studio made to look like a bar and save on overheads.

[Banana Boi]

Why is the bar all curtained off?

Some may not know this but Walking Street had live streaming from 2015 to 2018. Not sure if it's still up. LK Metro has had it as well but it's been down since the lockdown.

[Mr Enternational]

I stole a couple of my buddy's pictures to show how the livesteam is going. Computers and internet have made this world go crazy. I guess they no longer want customers to be physically at the bar. Virtual customers only. LOL.

[FL Hawk]

I know who Secret is and live through the Secret saga in real time when FL is in town.

Haha. You were a patient wing man my friend.

[FL Hawk]

Maybe your situation with Secret is similar. If we were crazy old fools falling for young girls to this degree with big money on the line all the time, that's one thing. But if you find yourself with strong feelings about any girl, rare feelings at truly rare times and the amount of money would not change your life one way or the other, not paying the damn money to see what happens just on principle or as a hard, inflexible rule might be the worse option.

You would be correct. You are a good man.

[Member #4733]

You got it exactly right Dio. I am glad I am getting through to someone here! Thank you for your comments.

I learned about family relations in Third World countries from an economic perspective and years later from a social perspective. Your story is the first that 'brought these classes together'. Refreshing my knowledge. Thanks. Hope you are well.