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10-18-20 10:01 #31091
Posts: 244Thai seasonal workers
Originally Posted by BananaBoi [View Original Post]
At ET Thanks for a nice story once again.
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10-18-20 07:00 #31090
Posts: 5451Originally Posted by FLHawk [View Original Post]
But after living here almost 8 years and sessioning with hundreds of different hookers, I have met 2 and only 2 girls in the business who touched my heart, mind and body enough to entertain a serious thought of helping them with money to get out of the business and start a new relatively non sex-based line of work.
One was just about a month ago. An absolutely star quality favorite repeat regular of mine for almost a year who is pushing 30, was never at a loss to get a customer if one is around but knows her bargirl days are numbered and was not seeing an end to the downward tourism spiral anytime soon.
So she had this big plan to open some food carts in certain areas of Bangkok, a type of business she knew about from her family being involved in it and could I please lend her 20,000 baht to get her started. She could stop working in a bar and loved me so much she fully intended to continue seeing me every week forever and ever. You know the drill.
However, this time, all things considered, the current bar scene circumstances and, honestly, that I only had this much feeling for 2 out of hundreds of girls I'd known since moving here and that the cost to me for our many times together had not been all that much anyway, I agreed with no more than a moment's hesitation.
I gave her the money. A few days later she sent me a photo of some food cart somewhere and has gone Missing In Action for at least 4 weeks ever since. LOL.
But I don't regret it for one second because I knew the alternative in THIS case was not an option. Sure, I miss her but not too seriously so. And I am not the least bit surprised that she took the money and ran.
But what would still be spinning around in my brain if I had NOT given this particular girl the 20,000 baht she asked me for and then she still went M.I.A., which she most certainly would have done? I would have the thought stuck somewhere in my head that but for 20,000 baht, a relatively insignificant amount of money to me, that girl would have had a chance at a better future and I might still be fucking her every week or two (along with covering ongoing business expenses, I know. LOL).
To KNOW with certainty that she was really only hitting me up for "Bye-Bye Money" on the way out the door and on her way back to her baby girl in Isaan, her Thai boyfriend, family, whatever and all that is well worth 20,000 baht to me vs being left with the idea that I missed an opportunity to do something meaningful for someone I had and still have special feelings for and rewarding to me for the cost of 5 middling go-go bargirl sessions.
If this kind of thing came up every other month or if much more serious money was on the line, it would have been a very different story and I would feel bad about it. But not in this case. I am comfortable in the knowledge that I did what was best for my peace of mind.
Maybe your situation with Secret is similar. If we were crazy old fools falling for young girls to this degree with big money on the line all the time, that's one thing. But if you find yourself with strong feelings about any girl, rare feelings at truly rare times and the amount of money would not change your life one way or the other, not paying the damn money to see what happens just on principle or as a hard, inflexible rule might be the worse option.
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10-18-20 03:21 #31089
Posts: 6304Originally Posted by DioRetz [View Original Post]
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10-17-20 21:56 #31088
Posts: 12Hard for them to adapt overseas a lot of the time
Originally Posted by BananaBoi [View Original Post]
However I know one particular girl from Baccara Pattaya (one of the most popular ones there), that has stayed in Japan for close to a year now and looks like she has made some genuine real coin during her stint there. I would honestly say that she represents the 10% to 20% who succeed. The rest come back with less money than they started with.
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10-17-20 21:20 #31087
Posts: 542Originally Posted by DioRetz [View Original Post]
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10-17-20 19:21 #31086
Posts: 922Originally Posted by DiffPiddy [View Original Post]
You lost coherence with the hotel question. Please try again.
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10-17-20 17:49 #31085
Posts: 1056Bob Unmasked
"Don't let yourself get attached to anything you are not willing to walk out on in 30 seconds flat if you feel the heat around the corner."
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LUy2Wx_r0_w
Originally Posted by Sammon [View Original Post]
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10-17-20 17:16 #31084
Posts: 18First timer in Pattaya
Tried to read the forum but there seems to be way too many debates going on about other stuff.
Lived in BKK for a few months now and love going to Nana plaza to stare at all the titties and occasionally take some hottie for a ST at the nearest hotel, while the missus is at home watching Netflix.
We're taking our first trip up to Pattaya. How is business these days? Has Covid shut most things off or are we all back to normal now?
Was looking to take a trip down to either Honey 2 or Sabai Dee, any recommendations on which one is best?
Also looking for any recommendations for gogos on or near walking street during the week as we'll be heading back to BKK before Friday.
What's the deal with the ST hotels there? Can obviously bring anyone back to me hotel room.
Cheers lads.
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10-17-20 15:41 #31083
Posts: 5651Originally Posted by BananaBoi [View Original Post]
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10-17-20 12:42 #31082
Posts: 924Originally Posted by Sammon [View Original Post]
Not all of these girls are good at getting sponsors, some of them doesn't have any and aren't doing anything in order to get one.
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10-17-20 09:35 #31081
Posts: 244Another point of view: the girl's pov
Originally Posted by FLHawk [View Original Post]
So is it possible in South Korea? The net is your friend. Just translate "vegetable farm in South Korea" to Thai and search the net. This site comes up and it has a combined address with Latin and Thai characters, so it is coded. Otherwise simply repeat my steps. It is not so difficult.
https://anriintern.com/%E0%B8%9B%E0%...8%94%E0%B9%89/
I am a bit flabbergasted at some comments here that state Secret is the real BG. Or that FL Hawk is just making things up. If you look at it from the point of view of Secret the story totally makes sense. And Bravo for Hawk to stay so objective about his own story. What I do see is a girl in financial need and desperate to hold on to her farm. If you have studied this phenomenon to some depth than you know that there is a big difference between farmers that do have land of their own and those that have not. The latter become very poor with very few opportunities. They most often have to beg for work. So to me it seems Secret is struggling to hold on to her farm. She has several options. One of them is going to Pattaya and trying to earn enough money. Another is opting for a rich foreigner. She chooses the one she likes best. But she just works down her options and if she reports hardship without Hawk offering money she needs to look for another way. Her next option is to work abroad and has chosen South Korea. I wonder whether that works out fine. South Koreans are quite OK but not filantropists. With Covid-19 coming up she might just be in the wrong time of the year. Then she might lose her farm and be doomed to extreme poverty.
So, is Secret a desperate girl at the verge of collapse. Yes, very likely. Is she hedging her bets with Hawk being one one of those? Yes, most certainly. Is she still a decent girl and not outright asking for money? Well, probably. A westerner might have liked her to be more forthcoming about her intentions: saving the farm.
Would I pay her debts if I had been Hawk. Yes, if I really liked her and the debt was still in reasonable comparison to my money. But I would have her write an IOU for the same amount. As stated before that is not a likely situation as I like a lot of girls that are sex workers but I have never met one that could hold my attention in a conversation for much more than half an hour. In my mind there is a strong foreboding that this is not going to end well for a nice girl. Then her only option is becoming a hardened BG and probably failing at that too.
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10-17-20 06:55 #31080
Posts: 236European with Thai girl
Originally Posted by Turgid [View Original Post]
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10-17-20 06:43 #31079
Posts: 172Originally Posted by MrEnternational [View Original Post]
Kind of comparable to what riends of mine used say, to go play golf for long weekends in pattaya from cold winter of Beijing. Some wives actually believed for a while.
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10-17-20 05:45 #31078
Posts: 6304Originally Posted by FL Hawk [View Original Post]
Originally Posted by Turgid [View Original Post]
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10-17-20 02:07 #31077
Posts: 15924Originally Posted by Sammon [View Original Post]