Pattaya Reports

[EihTooms]

My buddy went with a soi 6 girl, kept her for his entire trip. Took tons of photo's of her, wherever they went even naked in bed. He gets home and she sends him a photo of the top half of a hospital bill (without the total) and then a photo of 'her' in the hospital bed. Taken from the waist down. Sure was a hospital bed, had all the correct machines in the background. When he showed me the photo I just said "count the toes". Luckily whoever took the photo was missing a toe on her left foot and he had enough photos to prove she had all of her toes when she was with him. Funny thing is in the bar she wore tons of makeup and just looked 'gaudy', outside the bar she didn't wear much makeup and actually looked very attractive.

I have received isolated photos of arms or legs with big bandages wrapped around them, seen the girls just days later with no sign of a scar or blemish on them. Amazing medical care I must say.

Even more amazing was the time I received a photo of a girl's 2 year old "baby" with a bandage around the wrist with a hand of someone at least in their 30's or 40's. Sometimes they don't even try very hard.

Buddy of mine, frequent visitor to Thailand every year for decades, has a Thai wife and kids in the USA, was upset with worry about one of his regular P4P session girls here, how to transfer money yo her and all that because, according to her, she could not leave the hospital until she paid her 5,000 baht bill.

WTF, man, I said. Can you imagine how many years some of those patients would have to remain in their hospital beds until someone on the outside brought them 5,000 baht if that were true. Naturally, a couple of days later she had somehow gotten sprung from her hospital "prison" and was happily going about her life on the outside without him sending her that 5,000 baht bail money.

[Member #4733]

I needed to establish a level of trust with her. I probably, unknowingly, lost some trust with her by never really helping her however. I mean, if I knew she was suffering but not helping her when I had to means to help, why should she trust me to be able to care for her in a future relationship? In her mind she was being quite honest with me. Trust works both ways. Our trust is about to be shaken.

I am glad you have enjoyed the story thus far.

Normally I do not read the Pattaya thread as I was there two days and didn't like it. I like Thailand mostly for culture and beaches etc and just a few days of Bkk. So that is why I never read your stories. Today I did my best to read it all. I was almost a bit in tears about Secret. I could type university knowledge about it to the length of your stories. I won't do that. As it often doesn't help. Let me tell you that a few times I could predict the next episode of your story and I was proven to be right. Especially about the Aussie guy, as I could have done a similar thing. Actually with Corona I am doing the same thing but than with small entrepreneurs facing a hard time. I guess there are two things that I would like to tell. The first thing is about culture. There are two types of culture here. The Western culture that is individualistic and the older culture that is family oriented. I say older because in Western countries this culture was the same in rural areas just an odd 50 years ago. Westerners have few children and spend a lot of time and money on their children. In the older culture children are just a means to get money. An extra hand to do the work. An insurance for old age. It is pretty universal and you can learn a lot about it on the net. You have (or had) only partial knowledge about the old culture and Secret has only a hunch of your Western culture. If she is to explain her culture to you than you should explain your culture to her. And in depth. You don't graps another culture just in a few hours or days. That takes rehearsal and even after years you still find things to be different. The second thing is about the maturation of the BG. Many BG are effectively girls that have one or more children and the father is not there (left or had a 1 night stand etc). The family will take care of her children and she has to take care of her family. That is the deal. Not just in Thailand but I know of cases in Bulgaria and Romania too. Most girls like that don't really want to become a BG. They have to and their best way out is a loving relationship with a foreigner. Just like Secret. So she liked you better than the Aussie but in her culture the family and love also have a business part. Or subsistence might be a better part. She will rather choose a man she likes than one she doesn't like but love and family (business) are not separable. That is what you have to deal with. In your more recent posts you write from your own Western point of view and want her to live like that. I don't know if that is fair. Some separate remarks. You want her to be loyal and go back for her to Pattaya but you keep fucking other girls. What girl would accept that? Only a business woman. Love cannot be expected than. And believe me if you frequent a girl like that all of the street knows about it. Staying north really doesn't help. If a girl like Secret has one or more experiences like this. I mean that she in her way of thinking gives all to one man and doesn't get what she thinks she should get, she might become that hardened BG. That is: she matures into a hardened BG. Of course others start like a hardened BG right away but I do not think she was like that at the beginning of your story. I am still interested in the follow-up but as I already stated it seems you have some predicting words in your story already. I am a bit depressed as you and her had deserved a fairer chance.

[Breadman]

That was a good thing to mention. Whenever I receive photos from my girls of them or their family members in hospital beds, bandaged up for whatever and so on, I mention the same thing about their medical care likely being very low cost if not free if they don't have money. And that does put them off from asking me for financial assistance too. At least until something else comes along.

My buddy went with a soi 6 girl, kept her for his entire trip. Took tons of photo's of her, wherever they went even naked in bed. He gets home and she sends him a photo of the top half of a hospital bill (without the total) and then a photo of 'her' in the hospital bed. Taken from the waist down. Sure was a hospital bed, had all the correct machines in the background. When he showed me the photo I just said "count the toes". Luckily whoever took the photo was missing a toe on her left foot and he had enough photos to prove she had all of her toes when she was with him. Funny thing is in the bar she wore tons of makeup and just looked 'gaudy', outside the bar she didn't wear much makeup and actually looked very attractive.

[FL Hawk]

It's called psychology of the victim. He knows something terrifying is going to happen and he keeps wondering when.

At this stage his predator is already in full control of his mind.

We shall see.

[FL Hawk]

I just got this quote but I could have taken some others as well. Repeatedly you raise the question whether she will ask you for money. Her not doing so, might be proof of her not being a hardened bar girl. Then she might even be interested in a loving relationship. But all along the story it seems to me it is not about IF she asks for money. You expect her to do so but wonder when she does so. I do not comprehend that very well. But thanks a lot for a nice read in these boring times.

I needed to establish a level of trust with her. I probably, unknowingly, lost some trust with her by never really helping her however. I mean, if I knew she was suffering but not helping her when I had to means to help, why should she trust me to be able to care for her in a future relationship? In her mind she was being quite honest with me. Trust works both ways. Our trust is about to be shaken.

I am glad you have enjoyed the story thus far.

[FL Hawk]

Sending pictures that are consistent with working in a clothing store is no indication that she is actually in Bangkok. If you want to know where she is, suggest you ask her to use Line and send her location. Unless she is clever enough to change her digital location (e.g. VPN), sending a Line location will show where she is really located.

If you eventually marry this P4P girl, she will spend no more time focusing on "making money and caring for and worrying about her family back home". That will be your job. My best related story is a friend who married to a professional Thai girl about 1. 5 years ago, good marriage so far. Before the marriage he made it clear that no money would be sent to Thailand. He still gets sucked into paying some big ticket items from time to time, but his average has been only about 6000 THB per month. I expect most farang husbands send more than that to their wives' families.

Good comments. Thank you.

I have not talked about how extensive my search for the truth as been. You are, of course, correct and Secret is a clever woman, and should the time come when a detailed accounting of my fact checking of her location becomes integral to the overall story, I will go into the details of how I either proved she was telling the truth or how I proved she wasn't. But for sure, she is in Bangkok at this point working in a clothing store.

Regarding your last comments, you make assertions about a particular woman you have never met and who throughout my reporting has essentially passed each and every test to show she is hardly the typical "P4 P girl". In general you are correct, but as someone else has said, if this was a typical story about a typical old farang man falling for a typical young BG, I would not be writing this. Give me some credit please! Haha.

[Ass Addict]

But all along the story it seems to me it is not about IF she asks for money. You expect her to do so but wonder when she does so. I do not comprehend that very well.

It's called psychology of the victim. He knows something terrifying is going to happen and he keeps wondering when.

At this stage his predator is already in full control of his mind.

[Pimpampoumpipo]

Be as subservient as you want but don't give them the ability to affect your life.

Believe me guys.

Nothing beats freedom.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q5NKt8VNCxs

[Member #4733]

Think of the odds of success when you give out money and always make sure you are left with enough funds at the end so you could do it all over again. The worst would be win her then get dumped when she finds you have spent all the money!

I just got this quote but I could have taken some others as well. Repeatedly you raise the question whether she will ask you for money. Her not doing so, might be proof of her not being a hardened bar girl. Then she might even be interested in a loving relationship. But all along the story it seems to me it is not about IF she asks for money. You expect her to do so but wonder when she does so. I do not comprehend that very well. But thanks a lot for a nice read in these boring times.

[Ass Addict]

His girl is different.

You don't write Trilogies about Bargirls, run of the mill ones.

At first I thought your post was funny.

But now I realize you were correct.

His girl is truly different.

[Turgid]

Sending pictures that are consistent with working in a clothing store is no indication that she is actually in Bangkok. If you want to know where she is, suggest you ask her to use Line and send her location. Unless she is clever enough to change her digital location (e.g. VPN), sending a Line location will show where she is really located.

If you eventually marry this P4P girl, she will spend no more time focusing on "making money and caring for and worrying about her family back home". That will be your job. My best related story is a friend who married to a professional Thai girl about 1. 5 years ago, good marriage so far. Before the marriage he made it clear that no money would be sent to Thailand. He still gets sucked into paying some big ticket items from time to time, but his average has been only about 6000 THB per month. I expect most farang husbands send more than that to their wives' families.

It would be an uncaring girl who would marry an American, live in the world's richest country and not want to send money back to her family.

[HorseTrader]

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After recovering sufficiently, she went to Bangkok and found work at a clothing store. How do I know she was not back in Pattaya and was lying about being in Bangkok? She sent the types of photos I would expect to see and the times she sent messages was perfectly in line with what I expected from a person working during the day in a clothing store.

But as the time wore on, I was sensing some drudgery creeping in. Her focus was making money and caring for and worrying about her family back home.

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Sending pictures that are consistent with working in a clothing store is no indication that she is actually in Bangkok. If you want to know where she is, suggest you ask her to use Line and send her location. Unless she is clever enough to change her digital location (e.g. VPN), sending a Line location will show where she is really located.

If you eventually marry this P4P girl, she will spend no more time focusing on "making money and caring for and worrying about her family back home". That will be your job. My best related story is a friend who married to a professional Thai girl about 1. 5 years ago, good marriage so far. Before the marriage he made it clear that no money would be sent to Thailand. He still gets sucked into paying some big ticket items from time to time, but his average has been only about 6000 THB per month. I expect most farang husbands send more than that to their wives' families.

[EihTooms]

...When she told me she was worried about the cost the of medical care, I thought, OK, here we go. I knew her cost of care would be very low, if not zero. So I said I thought they got free care. She said yes, that is true, but that one needs special coverage for motorbike accidents and she was not sure if she had the proper coverage. She would have to go into town to inquire when she had the sutures removed. Well, she did all that and she had the proper coverage, so sorry guys, wrong again. She didn't ask for a satong and I didn't send her a single satong nor dollar.
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That was a good thing to mention. Whenever I receive photos from my girls of them or their family members in hospital beds, bandaged up for whatever and so on, I mention the same thing about their medical care likely being very low cost if not free if they don't have money. And that does put them off from asking me for financial assistance too. At least until something else comes along.

In my case, if Thailand ever also establishes free rent and low or no cost unlimited replacement of broken or stolen cellphones (and free wifi top up) to Thai nationals with no money I could pretty much delete my entire bank to bank transfer favorites list.

[JohnReter335]

https://excerpty.com/quote/you-can-b...rand-perigord/

Be as subservient as you want but don't give them the ability to affect your life.

100 percent right and fully agreed.

[FL Hawk]

She had a motorbike accident, obviously, and despite wearing a helmet she suffered lacerations to the face and legs, was badly burned when the hot muffler of the bike came down on her leg, and she suffered general cuts and bruises from sliding and tumbling along the edge of a dirt road. She received a few stitches and bandages at the hospital, and will have some permanent scaring and skin damage, but was released from the hospital intact.

Now you hardened mongerors will be predicting that even as she was crawling out from under the bike, she was looking at this accident as a potential gold mine and thinking how she will milk this incident for all she can get from me (and from other boyfriends you think she must have. Yes, she will send me a picture of her face covered in blood, then of her burned and bleeding leg, then cry that her bike has been destroyed and plead with me to send her the money she needs to pay the medical bills and to buy a new bike.

When she told me she was worried about the cost the of medical care, I thought, OK, here we go. I knew her cost of care would be very low, if not zero. So I said I thought they got free care. She said yes, that is true, but that one needs special coverage for motorbike accidents and she was not sure if she had the proper coverage. She would have to go into town to inquire when she had the sutures removed. Well, she did all that and she had the proper coverage, so sorry guys, wrong again. She didn't ask for a satong and I didn't send her a single satong nor dollar.

After recovering sufficiently, she went to Bangkok and found work at a clothing store. How do I know she was not back in Pattaya and was lying about being in Bangkok? She sent the types of photos I would expect to see and the times she sent messages was perfectly in line with what I expected from a person working during the day in a clothing store.

But as the time wore on, I was sensing some drudgery creeping in. Her focus was making money and caring for and worrying about her family back home. I was in a hold mode, waiting until we met in Phuket hoping to then determine if we might actually have a future before I started handing out money. Why spend money if our relationship was doomed? She, in hindsight, was kind of waiting for me to do something to help her, and all I was doing was chatting. She is not the type to complain or burden someone else with her problems, and she later said that she was concerned I would drop her if she appeared as a burden to me. So, we both had feelings apparently for the other, but were each waiting on the other to carry through.

Things were happening with her and I suppose the fact all I seemed to want out of the relationship was a pen pal and someone to travel and have sex with, she kept silent. I had said I love her, but we both knew those are just words without the proper actions. But I had the sense something was about to happen but was not yet prepared to do anything to stop it. Then early one morning I get an incoming message from her. "I need more money. I am quitting my job and leaving Bangkok. " Where can she get more money? OMG, no.

*_oreman, sorry, you will need to read to next-to-last paragraph this time, haha.