Pattaya Reports

[HorseTrader]

Posters on ISG who state that they have BBFS are very few and seemed to be confined to one or two Thailand threads. Most likely much less than 1% of mongers, perhaps .001%. That being said I take their boasts of bare backing and regular health checks with a grain of salt.

My personal experience is that about 10%-20% of Thai P4P girls never slow down enough to use a condom and I suspect that many punters prefer it that way. I have no idea how many punters get medical checks, but getting gonorrhea is painful and would force medical treatment.

[GettingFedUp]

Posters on ISG who state that they have BBFS are very few and seemed to be confined to one or two Thailand threads. Most likely much less than 1% of mongers, perhaps .001%. That being said I take their boasts of bare backing and regular health checks with a grain of salt.

I'm not taking sides on this one, but the Forum rules and guidelines http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/...eid=ForumRules state:

No Safe Sex Complaints: Forum Members wishing to criticize other Members for not following what they consider to be safe sex procedures may do so only in the Safe Sex Thread. Members may not comment upon, criticize or confront other members on this subject in the general discussion threads. Any such "safe sex complaints" posted in the general discussion threads will be deleted without comment. However.

No Safe Sex Bragging: Members may not repeatedly post about or otherwise taunt other Members regarding their refusal to follow safe sex procedures. Specifically, references to having sex without a condom may be made only by incidental reference and shall not be the focus of any report. Such "safe sex taunting" reports will be deleted without comment.

So maybe less confronting and more keeping references only incidental would be good.

[Whoreman]

Here's some logical reasoning for you. If getting DFK and BBBJ were key to a poster's assessment of a good, bad or indifferent P4P experience or destination but he didn't mention that is why he gave this or that experience a pass or fail, readers would not have much info on which to base their own conclusion. BBFS+CIP, Real Sex, is that factor for me. AND getting an upfront agreement for it as well. Two factors very few other mongers or posters apply, although I get plenty of PMs telling me there are several here after all.

So I kind of need to mention that when I answer a question or reply to a comment on the subject of P4P. If I don't, even I would wonder why in the world a seasoned monger who lives in Thailand would find himself with 1 taker out of some 24-30 nights of cruising and shopping in the P4P areas of Pattaya on the false assumption that he is only asking for and expecting the standard, basic fare of lick around the edges, if that, slip on a condom and proceed, the sum total of what likely 90% of Thai punters expect and get. See how that works?

I hereby forbid you to read any more of my posts. They are simply too nuanced, complex and upsetting for you.

Not upsetting at all. I find your mental struggles mildly amusing but your repetitive posting about exactly the same topic extremely tedious.

It's not all about you, is it? Just because you need something doesn't mean you have to shit up two threads by repeating the same thing over and over again. It's a public forum so you've got to ask is this relevant to other people? Do other people really want to read the same think over and over from the same poster or is it just your own little quirk that you can keep to yourself? If it's just about your own needs then a user blog on this forum or even a Twitter account would be the best place for it. There's no need for you to flood two threads with a topic that is only of interest to a small minority of posters.

[Whoreman]

The local health authorities are recommending you choose a girl from a line up at a happy ending massage shop or oily and fuck her in one of their rooms if you really want to protect her, yourself and others from Covid-19? Bullshit.

I alternate the STD test I get every 2-3 months from testing syphilis, which I get a result within the hour, to testing for gonorrhea, which takes a few days to get a result by email. I was tested for Chlamydia and HPV about 18 months ago but since both of those can be transmitted whether you're wearing a condom or not, I consider it a non issue regarding condom use and don't continually test for it. Similar to herpes in that regard. I took the HPV vaccination series a couple of years ago because I understand it can be transmitted orally and I eat a lot of pussy. I hope that information helps you sleep better tonight.

The health authorities allowed go go bars and massage parlours to reopen. They were the last to reopen for a reason. Do you think the authorities don't know what goes on there? The assessment has been made that the risk of Covid-19 spreading in Thailand is extremely low and I'm happy to follow that rather than your drivel.

You again reveal your ignorance about STIs. Chlamydia is the most widespread STI but can be prevented with condom use. What made you think otherwise? If it's 18 months since you've had a test for that and you've been barebacking several prostitutes per week then you're at very high risk of catching and passing on chlamydia. So your repeated claims that your regular testing make any risk minimal are clearly totally false.

[Turgid]

Posters on ISG who state that they have BBFS are very few and seemed to be confined to one or two Thailand threads. Most likely much less than 1% of mongers, perhaps .001%. That being said I take their boasts of bare backing and regular health checks with a grain of salt.

[Gilolo]

The local health authorities are recommending you choose a girl from a line up at a happy ending massage shop or oily and fuck her in one of their rooms if you really want to protect her, yourself and others from Covid-19? Bullshit.

I alternate the STD test I get every 2-3 months from testing syphilis, which I get a result within the hour, to testing for gonorrhea, which takes a few days to get a result by email. I was tested for Chlamydia and HPV about 18 months ago but since both of those can be transmitted whether you're wearing a condom or not, I consider it a non issue regarding condom use. I took the HPV vaccination series a couple of years ago because I understand it can be transmitted orally and I eat a lot of pussy.

I think we're all adults, customers, mongers and Thai ladies. I hate condoms because I disengage quickly. On the other hand, fucking a very pretty working girl without a condom, it turns me on seriously! It turns me on even more to fuck a working girl when she refuses to fuck without a condom! She always ends up giving in with more money!

I love to eat their pussy and lot of deep French kisses.

But don't worry I always treat them with a lot of respect. I'm always generous with these girls. Girls love me a lot, they're just jealous I fuck all the girls in Pattaya or Bangkok.

Everyday I love to go on the facebook pages on the bars in Soi 6 and everywhere in BKK and Pattaya and I love to look their new girls! Usually I find the girls I want on facebook or tinder and then I go to the bar to fuck her.

[EihTooms]

The problem is ET has turned the Bangkok thread and now this one into his own personal blog about his daily struggles to get bareback sex in Thailand. The Bangkok thread has long been unreadable as a result and now he seems to be doing the same with this one. This forum allows the creation of user blogs so I don't know why he doesn't start his own entitled "my struggles to get bareback sex" and see how many people are actually interested in that shit.

Here's some logical reasoning for you. If getting DFK and BBBJ were key to a poster's assessment of a good, bad or indifferent P4P experience or destination but he didn't mention that is why he gave this or that experience a pass or fail, readers would not have much info on which to base their own conclusion. BBFS+CIP, Real Sex, is that factor for me. AND getting an upfront agreement for it as well. Two factors very few other mongers or posters apply, although I get plenty of PMs telling me there are several here after all.

So I kind of need to mention that when I answer a question or reply to a comment on the subject of P4P. If I don't, even I would wonder why in the world a seasoned monger who lives in Thailand would find himself with 1 taker out of some 24-30 nights of cruising and shopping in the P4P areas of Pattaya on the false assumption that he is only asking for and expecting the standard, basic fare of lick around the edges, if that, slip on a condom and proceed, the sum total of what likely 90% of Thai punters expect and get. See how that works?

I hereby forbid you to read any more of my posts. They are simply too nuanced, complex and upsetting for you.

[EihTooms]

Logical reasoning isn't your strong point is it? With regard to both Covid-19 and condoms I'm following the advice of the local health authorities so where's the hypocrisy?

And I notice you didn't answer the question about your supposed annual chlamydia and gonorrhea tests. But you like to quickly change the subject when someone asks you an inconvenient question don't you? But no doubt you're still going to stick with your ridiculous claims to be miraculously immune from sexually transmitted infections.

The local health authorities are recommending you choose a girl from a line up at a happy ending massage shop or oily and fuck her in one of their rooms if you really want to protect her, yourself and others from Covid-19? Bullshit.

I alternate the STD test I get every 2-3 months from testing syphilis, which I get a result within the hour, to testing for gonorrhea, which takes a few days to get a result by email. I was tested for Chlamydia and HPV about 18 months ago but since both of those can be transmitted whether you're wearing a condom or not, I consider it a non issue regarding condom use and don't continually test for it. Similar to herpes in that regard. I took the HPV vaccination series a couple of years ago because I understand it can be transmitted orally and I eat a lot of pussy. I hope that information helps you sleep better tonight.

[Whoreman]

It's getting more and more difficult to find relevant Pattaya posts these days. If you guys want to argue there's a PM function on this board!

The problem is ET has turned the Bangkok thread and now this one into his own personal blog about his daily struggles to get bareback sex in Thailand. The Bangkok thread has long been unreadable as a result and now he seems to be doing the same with this one. This forum allows the creation of user blogs so I don't know why he doesn't start his own entitled "my struggles to get bareback sex" and see how many people are actually interested in that shit.

[Whoreman]

The reason there has been no community outbreak in Thailand is because the country jumped on the mitigation measures at the national level ASAP; masks, social distancing, curfews, closures, etc that went on for months. Or hadn't you noticed?

Btw, we also stiil get our temperature taken every time we walk into a 7-11 or a mall. By your reasoning there is no need, purpose or value in doing that since taking that "test" after the fact did not and could not prevent us from getting Covid or from us having spread it to 1000 people before we got "tested." And, hey, there is no community outbreak in Thailand.

Any idea why it is done anyway? Give it some thought.

I am not upset about anything. I was just pointing out your holier than thou hypocrisy in claiming to worry about the spread of disease while you are still going out to violate every mitigation measure recommended to prevent the spread of a virus more infectious and deadly than any STI in circulation.

Logical reasoning isn't your strong point is it? With regard to both Covid-19 and condoms I'm following the advice of the local health authorities so where's the hypocrisy?

And I notice you didn't answer the question about your supposed annual chlamydia and gonorrhea tests. But you like to quickly change the subject when someone asks you an inconvenient question don't you? But no doubt you're still going to stick with your ridiculous claims to be miraculously immune from sexually transmitted infections.

[Mr Enternational]

Interesting. Obviously I'm only getting my information second hand unlike some poster on here who are pretending to be in Thailand getting BBFS from every girl he meets. 1500 baht from a Baccara quality main floor girl would be a steal. Not so much for the 2nd floor girls. Did any of your buddies actually take a girl to a room in the club?

I bought myself a ginger ale and one of those hostess chicks stuck to me like glue even though I did not buy her a drink or anything. There was a mamasan with glasses who my buddy said probably looked good back in her day. I was surprised to see a DJ in the place. Seemed like they could just have a tape or USB playing that music. I doubt anyone would know the difference.

I got my info second hand too because I did not ask anything when I was inside of the place. I don't remember the actual price they said that is why I put the question mark. But the price was low enough that I stated I would probably have fucked one the day I went in there had I known that. (Actually I would not have because I had been riding my bicycle and was smelling bad when I ran into my friend that wanted me to tag along.) They also mentioned that lady drinks are up to 200 baht in some places.

I ran into MP right as he was leaving Golden Times Friday night. He was in the back of a baht bus and I was behind it on my motorbike headed to Walking Street. I told him that I would see him down on Walking Street but I did not run into him after that.

[Banana Boi]

It's getting more and more difficult to find relevant Pattaya posts these days. If you guys want to argue there's a PM function on this board!

But my friends say it is a gogo/gentlemens club. They have rooms there. Barfine/room is 500 and girls 1000?.

Interesting. Obviously I'm only getting my information second hand unlike some poster on here who are pretending to be in Thailand getting BBFS from every girl he meets. 1500 baht from a Baccara quality main floor girl would be a steal. Not so much for the 2nd floor girls. Did any of your buddies actually take a girl to a room in the club?

Pin up three Barfines per contract. Sounds reasonable. I just don't see the girls being Barfined even when it's wall to wall customers.

Not many Pattaya gogo girls got 3 real barfines per 7 or 10 day contract even pre-COVID. 3 BF and 20 drinks in a 5 day contract would have only been for the stars.

[EihTooms]

ET you do realize that the covid argument is not in your favor. Because people are being told to social distance and wear a mask, as I'm sure you have been doing during the outbreak in BKK. It is proven that wearing masks and social distancing have helped fight and minimize the spread of covid as you can see where you are living. People who have not taken this seriously and were lax with mask wearing have paid a price as is clear from certain states in the US and Sweden for example. So using the covid argument actually supports wearing condoms to minimize risk and stop the spread.

As far as education whether the girls have PhDs or not, if you tell a girl the scientific facts, such as wearing a condom reduces risk by such a percentage.

Not wearing one increases the risk by such a percentage.

Not wearing one with a partner who has unprotected sex with multiple partners increase the risk by this much.

Not wearing one with a partner who has unprotected sex with multiple prostitutes who also have unprotected sex with multiple partners will increase it by this much.

In a country which is known to be the number 1 sex tourist destination in the world where mongers travel throughout the year increases it by this much.

Having unprotected anal sex with those partners increase your risk but this much.

I'm sure if you simply explain the risks, ie educate, the matter is quite clear, no one likes to put themselves at risk of diseases.

That being said some people, both men and women are fine with taking that chance and that's fine.

What "argument" do you imagine I am making?

I am not promoting or denying the risks of going bareback any more than I am promoting or denying the risks of violating all the Covid spread mitigation measures.

[EihTooms]

Do your annual medical check-ups specifically test for chlamydia and gonorrhea or are they just generic urine tests that look for things like glucose levels and general health markers? Where are you getting this test done? You seem to be very confused and believe yourself to be some kind of medical miracle who is immune from extremely infectious bacterial STIs.

As for Covid-19, as I explained before, there is no evidence of any community transmission in Thailand at the moment so what you wrote is complete drivel.

If you're so easily upset by people questioning your bareback practices, why do you repeatedly post them on a public forum?

The reason there has been no community outbreak in Thailand is because the country jumped on the mitigation measures at the national level ASAP; masks, social distancing, curfews, closures, etc that went on for months. Or hadn't you noticed?

Btw, we also stiil get our temperature taken every time we walk into a 7-11 or a mall. By your reasoning there is no need, purpose or value in doing that since taking that "test" after the fact did not and could not prevent us from getting Covid or from us having spread it to 1000 people before we got "tested." And, hey, there is no community outbreak in Thailand.

Any idea why it is done anyway? Give it some thought.

I am not upset about anything. I was just pointing out your holier than thou hypocrisy in claiming to worry about the spread of disease while you are still going out to violate every mitigation measure recommended to prevent the spread of a virus more infectious and deadly than any STI in circulation.

[Danny Duck]

I've been to GT twice when they open a year ago. There were lots of comments and debate on the place on another website but I'm not part of that website any longer for personal reasons. The negatives were when they opened is their location it is right at the corner of what is consider Gentlemen Club Alley, 555,Naughty, Buka. So when they opened it was assumed they would also be one but after the Grand opening the negative comments started to come in that they couldn't figure out if they were a GoGo or a GC, another negative was the prices for BF and what the girls were asking which wasn't consistent with what one could get just walking out the door especially when the talent wasn't anything to brag about.

The owners there seem to be the same owner now? One of the big negatives is the owners had a bad habit of bringing in high end talent for their Grand Opening and special events for one night for eye candy although they had one or two from other high end GoGo the general talent wasn't above some of the GC. There were complaints that these eye candy the BF was 2000 baht and these girls were asking as high as 10,000 baht I can personally confirm that one of the mamasan quoted me these prices for these girls from Bangkok.

First open, I heard and read that they had ST rooms on site and can confirm the price quoted 500 baht but girls for take out was much more more in the range of a GoGo thus the question are they a GC or a GoGo. Prior to the Virus it wasn't going well and the two times I was there can confirm the rumors the talent just wasn't there as a GoGo comparing them pretty much last in talent in the LK metro area. If the Virus didn't close them I don't think they would be operating today..

Love the insight.

Pin up three Barfines per contract. Sounds reasonable. I just don't see the girls being Barfined even when it's wall to wall customers.