Pattaya Reports

[MonkeyPaw]

No trade thanks. I am not scared to stay in my country for fear of being unjustly locked up. Keep swinging in the tree's little monkey while papa monkey has the money.

Soooo. Unlike everyone in the Thailand thread on ISG, who are trying to claw their way to get back to Pattaya, the bars, the girls, the beach and paradise, you prefer to stay in your own country with borders closed. As long as you are being truthful and all.

And you consider yourself "brave?" You must be having as much fun as a "barrel of monkeys" wherever you are at. Why don't you write up a report on all the fun and partying you are doing. By the way, neither my father nor I have jobs or are employed. I'm so broke that the USA government gave me 1200 $ for stimulus, which equates to about 30 girls off ThaiFriendly to fuck. Thank you tax payers and the USA.

[EihTooms]

There is currently thrown around by the government called " medical tourism " as one of the items associated with the list along with diplomats, marriage to a Thai but I never applied for one it was so easy to just keep obtaining a Retirement extension especially when one could just make an appointment at your Embassy and obtain a letter. Even if you fall within one of the categories like my brother who's got a Marriage one still needs to do the following which from everything I've read from others who went through the list it takes at least a month?

Time isn't on my side although I might be needed the other side of the world I'm also needed here more my wife has a form of Leukemia although she is doing well she needs me even more so there isn't anyway I can chance departing and not being able to return!

First one must contact a Thai Consulate which in my case is L. A. I wrote to them two months ago outlining my situation with myself here and mother back home still waiting! Nevertheless, one is supposed to contact them and first obtain a letter " certification of entry " submitting documents which I hear is a Covid-19 test result, other documents which I heard is a policy of insurance minimum coverage $100,000 USD (COVID-19) equals 3 million-plus baht coverage at my age for the period of my stay runs something like $5,000 USD. Even if you pass those hurdles and get a letter you must take another COVID test and it must be no older 72 hours prior to your arrival in BKK.

When it comes to flights when I obtained my Cathay Pacific Ticket at the office in Bangkok, the clerk told me they were running a flight out of Bkk one a week? To H. K. The aircraft was inbound to BKK as Cargo then turn around to carry passengers out. Although I didn't see it online he told me they were running daily flights from H. K. To SFO and back was going to increase after July 1st also increase H. K. To BKK if air space opens up which hasn't. So even if I got that far how would I get back into BKK since there aren't any flights it was suggested to contact the airline that was repatriating Thais and qualified people like medical, diplomats, etc. I believe Cathay might have been one of those airlines. The final items once back in BKK you had to be quarantined for 14 days.

As for using a medical excuse once you do your 14 days you can get your medical procedure and thereafter travel throughout Thailand for the rest of your trip?

Just thinking about this shit I want to load up and kill that MF in China! I usually do it for a fee but this one I will do it for free for the good old USA.

Yes, what you mention after having obviously done extensive research on it yourself was the "medical tourism" exception I was referring to. And, as you found, it would still require you to jump through several other flaming hoops along the way with no clear explanation for how long a stay such an exception would allow.

I had read in the Bangkok Post that 50,000 international incoming flight passengers were allowed entry to Thailand recently and 30,000 of them were using that "medical tourism" exception. There was no mention of how big or how small the planned medical procedure had to be to qualify. Flights from where or whether or not those flights were cancelled at the last minute, I have no idea. Luckily, I am not on the wrong side of the Thai border from my chosen residence in Bangkok so I have not done more research on it.

But I can tell you my expat friend who had to return to Belgium at the worst possible time to close the sale of his business so he would be free to live full time in Thailand wants to make sure he is among some future 50,000 flight passengers in October, November or whenever.

And if it means booking an appointment to have his love handles removed by liposuction and getting his teeth capped to make it happen that is one of the flaming hoops he is prepared to jump through. But that is someone planning to live here full time, which helps a bit to justify the likely expense and extraordinary effort, not just a two week punter.

[Downandup]

Where did you read that you can get in to Thailand by buying a Thai Elite Visa? If so, I will buy my way in to Thailand!

There's another site that I can't mention that provides links to this. Try https://thepattayanews.com/. You still need to get a current test, a certificate of entry from the embassy, get onto a repatriation flight and then go through quarantine for two weeks on arrival.

[Banana Boi]

Not unless you have a Thai wife, a diplomatic passport, work permit or Elite Visa.

Where did you read that you can get in to Thailand by buying a Thai Elite Visa? If so, I will buy my way in to Thailand!

[LittleBigMan]

Isn't there an exception for entering or returning to Thailand for medical procedure appointments? If anyone already in Thailand with a legitimate current visa, especially an annual retirement visa, absolutely must leave Thailand, I would probably immediately set up an appointment for the near future to get some minor liposuction done, or a few hair transplants, maybe dental work, whatever, and try to bank on that as my excuse to return. Could be worth a try if you have no other choice but to leave.

Not that you must already be in Thailand when setting up that future appointment for the exception. It seems anyone who makes a medical appointment in Thailand from anywhere can try that exception. Just that I assume someone who has a longer term Thai visa could renew it that way upon re-entry rather than entering on an ordinary tourist visa.

An expat friend of mine who owns a condo in Bangkok and lives here most of the year but got caught outside the borders and stuck in his home country during the lockdown is looking into that loophole right now.

There is currently thrown around by the government called " medical tourism " as one of the items associated with the list along with diplomats, marriage to a Thai but I never applied for one it was so easy to just keep obtaining a Retirement extension especially when one could just make an appointment at your Embassy and obtain a letter. Even if you fall within one of the categories like my brother who's got a Marriage one still needs to do the following which from everything I've read from others who went through the list it takes at least a month?

Time isn't on my side although I might be needed the other side of the world I'm also needed here more my wife has a form of Leukemia although she is doing well she needs me even more so there isn't anyway I can chance departing and not being able to return!

First one must contact a Thai Consulate which in my case is L. A. I wrote to them two months ago outlining my situation with myself here and mother back home still waiting! Nevertheless, one is supposed to contact them and first obtain a letter " certification of entry " submitting documents which I hear is a Covid-19 test result, other documents which I heard is a policy of insurance minimum coverage $100,000 USD (COVID-19) equals 3 million-plus baht coverage at my age for the period of my stay runs something like $5,000 USD. Even if you pass those hurdles and get a letter you must take another COVID test and it must be no older 72 hours prior to your arrival in BKK.

When it comes to flights when I obtained my Cathay Pacific Ticket at the office in Bangkok, the clerk told me they were running a flight out of Bkk one a week? To H. K. The aircraft was inbound to BKK as Cargo then turn around to carry passengers out. Although I didn't see it online he told me they were running daily flights from H. K. To SFO and back was going to increase after July 1st also increase H. K. To BKK if air space opens up which hasn't. So even if I got that far how would I get back into BKK since there aren't any flights it was suggested to contact the airline that was repatriating Thais and qualified people like medical, diplomats, etc. I believe Cathay might have been one of those airlines. The final items once back in BKK you had to be quarantined for 14 days.

As for using a medical excuse once you do your 14 days you can get your medical procedure and thereafter travel throughout Thailand for the rest of your trip?

Just thinking about this shit I want to load up and kill that MF in China! I usually do it for a fee but this one I will do it for free for the good old USA.

[XXL]

Isn't there an exception for entering or returning to Thailand for medical procedure appointments? If anyone already in Thailand with a legitimate current visa, especially an annual retirement visa, absolutely must leave Thailand, I would probably immediately set up an appointment for the near future to get some minor liposuction done, or a few hair transplants, maybe dental work, whatever, and try to bank on that as my excuse to return. Could be worth a try if you have no other choice but to leave.

Not that you must already be in Thailand when setting up that future appointment for the exception. It seems anyone who makes a medical appointment in Thailand from anywhere can try that exception....

I doubt a mere dental appointment would suffice. A hair transplant or any other similar procedure would probably require a substantial downpayment. I also suspect authorities would be quick to close loopholes. There are no more than 4 or 5 well-known hair transplant surgeons in Thailand, they cannot be seen to bring planeloads of medical tourists into Thailand.

... my mother is currently is 102, even before the virus whenever I get an email or phone call from home I think the time has come? I speak to her each week and although she is physically good her mental state seems to be getting worse each time I talk to her?

This gives me a lot of sleepless nights ...

Yep, living on another continent when you still have old folks alive who may require flying back at a day's notice is tricky enough in normal times. With Covid it becomes unmanageable. I flew back from Thailand because I had been 6 months without seeing my old folks back home, now I find myself locked out of Thailand, God knows for how long.

[Franciscass]

Isn't there an exception for entering or returning to Thailand for medical procedure appointments? If anyone already in Thailand with a legitimate current visa, especially an annual retirement visa, absolutely must leave Thailand, I would probably immediately set up an appointment for the near future to get some minor liposuction done, or a few hair transplants, maybe dental work, whatever, and try to bank on that as my excuse to return. Could be worth a try if you have no other choice but to leave.

Not that you must already be in Thailand when setting up that future appointment for the exception. It seems anyone who makes a medical appointment in Thailand from anywhere can try that exception. Just that I assume someone who has a longer term Thai visa could renew it that way upon re-entry rather than entering on an ordinary tourist visa.

An expat friend of mine who owns a condo in Bangkok and lives here most of the year but got caught outside the borders and stuck in his home country during the lockdown is looking into that loophole right now.

The medical tourism visa is about the only way anybody can get here at the moment but it is not easy to get one. No problem this end, lots of hospitals often in conjunction with hotels are offering 14 day quarantine wellness packages (cost 60 k to 70 k) approved for a medical visa by the powers that be, the problem is getting a Thai embassy abroad to issue a Confirmation of Entry.

Along with the hospital booking and the usual bits and pieces you need.

Insurance of $100,000 which includes cover for Covid 19.

Letter from your local medical provider saying you need the treatment.

Fit to fly certificate issued not more than 72 hours before take off.

Medical Cert indicating a Covid negative RT-PCR test issued not more than 72 hours before entry. With delays in getting test results back from a lab this is not straight forward.

Proof you have enough finances to cover all costs while you are here.

A friend of mine on a retirement visa is stranded in the UK. Despite numerous attempts to contact the Thai embassy he has been unable to get an appointment or even talk to anybody willing to answer queries such as is the medical visa available to long term residents. At first glance this seems to be a single entry limited stay visa.

[Nounce]

Isn't there an exception for entering or returning to Thailand for medical procedure appointments?

I think the potential problem is that there will be no flight between BKK and SFO.

[Member #4698]

Chinese New Year is my annual trip home 2021 it will be on Feb 12th, in that two week period my main purpose is to spend time with my mother is currently is 102, even before the virus whenever I get an email or phone call from home I think the time has come? I speak to her each week and although she is physically good her mental state seems to be getting worse each time I talk to her?

This gives me a lot of sleepless nights because if something happens I'm locked here in Thailand unable to see or bury her? I'm willing to deal with the ticket cancelation or even lose the money entirely it isn't the big issue with me.

I would try to do exactly the same thing if I were in your position. My mother passed while I was on a road trip in Northern Peru. I drove non stop down to Lima in 10 hours and then I jumped on a flight back to Miami the next day as soon as I heard the sad news.

[EihTooms]

Chinese New Year is my annual trip home 2021 it will be on Feb 12th, in that two week period my main purpose is to spend time with my mother is currently is 102, even before the virus whenever I get an email or phone call from home I think the time has come? I speak to her each week and although she is physically good her mental state seems to be getting worse each time I talk to her?

This gives me a lot of sleepless nights because if something happens I'm locked here in Thailand unable to see or bury her? I'm willing to deal with the ticket cancelation or even lose the money entirely it isn't the big issue with me.

Isn't there an exception for entering or returning to Thailand for medical procedure appointments? If anyone already in Thailand with a legitimate current visa, especially an annual retirement visa, absolutely must leave Thailand, I would probably immediately set up an appointment for the near future to get some minor liposuction done, or a few hair transplants, maybe dental work, whatever, and try to bank on that as my excuse to return. Could be worth a try if you have no other choice but to leave.

Not that you must already be in Thailand when setting up that future appointment for the exception. It seems anyone who makes a medical appointment in Thailand from anywhere can try that exception. Just that I assume someone who has a longer term Thai visa could renew it that way upon re-entry rather than entering on an ordinary tourist visa.

An expat friend of mine who owns a condo in Bangkok and lives here most of the year but got caught outside the borders and stuck in his home country during the lockdown is looking into that loophole right now.

[GettingFedUp]

Sooooo, should I book a trip for August? Is it worth it?

And are willing to have 14 days quarantine at your own expense.

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[Ebauche]

Sooooo, should I book a trip for August? Is it worth it?

I've got a trip booked late August to mid September. Sadly, I fear it will get cancelled. Not out any cash. Used miles. But god I need a holiday in Pattaya.

[LittleBigMan]

Chinese New Year is my annual trip home 2021 it will be on Feb 12th, in that two week period my main purpose is to spend time with my mother is currently is 102, even before the virus whenever I get an email or phone call from home I think the time has come? I speak to her each week and although she is physically good her mental state seems to be getting worse each time I talk to her?

This gives me a lot of sleepless nights because if something happens I'm locked here in Thailand unable to see or bury her? I'm willing to deal with the ticket cancelation or even lose the money entirely it isn't the big issue with me.

[Member #4698]

Personally, my heart tells you Yes! Because it would show a sign that things have opened up but from everything being said it is right now the middle of July. Unless you have some real power like being a diplomat even then there is a whole list of items required by home prior to even getting to the airport. I've read just 2-3 full stories from people overseas who needed to get back into Thailand and it took close to a month before they satisfied that list!

I took a chance to book a ticket for Feb of next year Chinese New Year and the way things are going outside of Thailand particularly the USA It feels like 50/50 but there might be some hope. Company in Oxford in joint venture with USA? Supposedly got pass the first phase for the vaccine with two major results now final testing of 30,000 groups if successful indication Dec?

Having had my April flight cancelled in March and just now my mid August Flight cancelled and refunded by United, I am in no mood to buy another ticket even though I spotted some real good deals for March 2021. Good deals as in very low price, very short trans pacific duration, and fully refundable if the flight is cancelled by the airline. But no thanks. I am done betting against the virus. I am going to wait until the various vaccines arrive.

But there is good news on the vaccine front, as LBM points out, the Oxford University Group is making real progress. Here is a snip from today's WSJ:

"Vaccines being developed by 1) University of Oxford researchers and AstraZeneca AZN -3. 96% PLC; 2) Pfizer PFE 0. 69% Inc and German partner BioNTech BNTX 3. 46% SE; and 3) China's CanSino Biologics 6185 2. 17% all reported fresh updates showing their shots generated immune responses and were safe to use.

The results cement the trio's position among a few drugmakers and institutions at the vanguard of the race to develop a Covid-19 vaccine. About 160 vaccines are in development, including about 20 that have started human testing, according to the World Health Organization. With a clutch of front-runners now having reported positive early results, attention is rapidly turning to larger, later-stage trials that would prove the efficacy of the shots in tens of thousands of volunteers and potentially lead to the treatments' approval for use."

[LittleBigMan]

Sooooo, should I book a trip for August? Is it worth it?

Personally, my heart tells you Yes! Because it would show a sign that things have opened up but from everything being said it is right now the middle of July. Unless you have some real power like being a diplomat even then there is a whole list of items required by home prior to even getting to the airport. I've read just 2-3 full stories from people overseas who needed to get back into Thailand and it took close to a month before they satisfied that list!

I took a chance to book a ticket for Feb of next year Chinese New Year and the way things are going outside of Thailand particularly the USA It feels like 50/50 but there might be some hope. Company in Oxford in joint venture with USA? Supposedly got pass the first phase for the vaccine with two major results now final testing of 30,000 groups if successful indication Dec?