Pattaya Reports

[Big Daddy 1906]

Mamasans in general too pushy or always asking for drinks. That infinity gogo bar one is a standout and I sometimes buy her drinks. For managers, used to always talk to Nick from Spankys BKK and share some drinks with him. Very decent guy. Mamasans in G clubs like the pimp in BKK however are totally different. Have one which has known me for years and always brings me girls meeting my spec. Almost every time she can pick my type as well as knows my needs. That mamasan is invaluable.

Many years ago when I was in Pattaya, something came over me and all I wanted was mamasans. They would find it hysterical when I told them that I wanted to bar fine THEM. When they realized that I was serious, then things got interesting. Out of all the gogos I went to, I would say I had at least a 90% success rate. And it was all worth it. Sure they may be a bit older, but they still looked pretty good and they were ALL about the skills. They put on no airs, threw down and got healthy tips on top. I think that they liked to be appreciated and that they still have "it".

[Turgid]

More realistic assessments from airline professionals suggest it will be closer to 2024. By then things will look a lot different. The masses won't be returning to the same places, because the places will have changed to adjust. You can't go home again.

For me there is no better place to be at this time than where I am right now. At home. At some point in time I was contemplating going to Mexico but changed my mind. I will have to be content banging mostly overweight girls for some time to come - 4 years? I hope not. I would like to visit Thailand and SEA again sometime in the future and am pretty certain it would not be like my previous visits. The world is changing and we must get used to it. "Adapt or perish, now as ever, is nature's inexorable imperative". H. G. Wells.

[Ncc1701A]

No penalty for this situation even if under contract pre-COVID as girls are allowed to take days off between 7/10 day contracts. But like you and others have mentioned there does not seem to be contracts at this time as bars could not even afford to have girls if contracts had to be paid out.

As for commission basis for mamasans, I assumed they were always on commission basis since they are imo the agents / pimps. The more aggressive behavior is likely out of pure desperation during these times.

Am I the only person who ignores and does not speak with mamasans or bar managers/owners unless they're fairly hot like S at Infinity agogo or the bar owner of a bar in Simon Complex on 2nd? They serve no purpose to me.

Mamasans in general too pushy or always asking for drinks. That infinity gogo bar one is a standout and I sometimes buy her drinks. For managers, used to always talk to Nick from Spankys BKK and share some drinks with him. Very decent guy. Mamasans in G clubs like the pimp in BKK however are totally different. Have one which has known me for years and always brings me girls meeting my spec. Almost every time she can pick my type as well as knows my needs. That mamasan is invaluable.

[MonkeyPaw]

It's not always about the 500 baht. Many like the agogo bar experience.

Meet Som.

Some days Som works at Pin Up.

Supposedly Som is a sexy model.

Sometimes Som gets bar-fined.

Som same same drinks Sangsom like the Thais.

So add 3 of those for Som.

Sex with Som is 1500 plus 3000.

Suckers pay Som that price.

So watch out for the spitting Serpent.

But at Club Monkeypaw, we got Som Specials all night for 1000 baht. Does that make me cheap? Or is Monkeypaw oh so special?

[MonkeyPaw]

Meet Praew.

Praew had shaken her ass at Billboards.

Praew now shakes her ass Pin Up.

But last night, Praew shook her ass at Club Monkeypaw.

Shake, shake, shake.

Like these Polaroid pictures?

[Banana Boi]

One of the repeat girls I mention called me recently and told me she had not gone to her bar for three nights .................There was no indication that the girl would or did suffer a penalty for not showing up for a few days in a row.

No penalty for this situation even if under contract pre-COVID as girls are allowed to take days off between 7/10 day contracts. But like you and others have mentioned there does not seem to be contracts at this time as bars could not even afford to have girls if contracts had to be paid out.

As for commission basis for mamasans, I assumed they were always on commission basis since they are imo the agents / pimps. The more aggressive behavior is likely out of pure desperation during these times.

Am I the only person who ignores and does not speak with mamasans or bar managers/owners unless they're fairly hot like S at Infinity agogo or the bar owner of a bar in Simon Complex on 2nd? They serve no purpose to me.

[EihTooms]

Are gogo bars run differently in Bangkok than in Pattaya? In Pattaya a girl works at a gogo bar on a contract, usually 7 or 10 days. They can't just show up for work on a random night whenever they believe a customer will meet them there. If they don't fulfill their entire contract they don't get paid and have to pay the barfine each day they don't show up for work. At least this is how it worked pre-COVID. I think MP has confirmed there are currently no contracts since business is slow.

I think contracts were the norm in Bangkok pre shutdown. But I don't know if the girls in the go-go bars I have gone into and pulled from since the reopenings are now "commission-only" or not. I have not asked.

But in some of the cases I mentioned the behavior of the mamasans and the girls has all the earmarks of them being "commission-only." They are much more attentive and aggressive about wanting to know how they can close a barfine deal with me ASAP and not even all that interested in sitting around hustling LDs since the commission on that is much less by comparison to the money they can make from a barfine and the pool of potential customers for it is very small these days.

However, I felt that in some bars the reception was so cool and aloof they could very well be pulling some level of salary: Rainbow 2, Butterflies, Billboard, for example.

One of the repeat girls I mention called me recently and told me she had not gone to her bar for three nights but would definitely make the trip if I was going there to take her that night. And I am fairly certain that call was triggered by her mamasan who called her to say I passed by her bar and chatted with her standing outside the night before as I was heading to a different bar. She said the mamasan told her she saw me and chatted a bit. Actually, the mamasan tried to match me up with a different eager candidate in her line up but I was headed to a different bar and mamasan for the same higher than usual quality of service that night.

There was no indication that the girl would or did suffer a penalty for not showing up for a few days in a row.

[EihTooms]

What? His post was about a girl NOT wanting to dress up and head across town to get on a stage for 4 or 5 hours unless she knew a trusted customer was going to hire her. It was not about whether the customer wanted to go to the gogo bar for an experience and pay a 500 baht bar fine. If she had a trusted customer that was going to take her, she could just call him up and ask to go straight to his place instead.

Okay. So now you are saying they DO have a reason to dress up and head across town to get on stage for 4 or 5 hours without there being a trusted customer that will take them.

Actually, I said there might be a reason for it. By now the girls have personally experienced the trends and customer flow from night to night in ways I have not. I assume no night is seen as potentially worth the trip for at least 2,000 baht to them as when they have been told by a trusted repeat customer that he will go there tonight to take her.

And when those couple of girls Line me to ask if I please will go to their bar on a certain night I have no delusions that I am the only trusted repeat customer they have been calling to ask about that.

[Banana Boi]

I know a couple of go-go girls who call me to ask if I will be going to their bar tonight, tomorrow, the next day, when and will I please come see them? If I tell them I am not coming to see them, they don't bother traveling into the area and going to work at their bar. If I tell them I will probably come by to see them tonight or whatever, then they come to work that night. LOL.

Are gogo bars run differently in Bangkok than in Pattaya? In Pattaya a girl works at a gogo bar on a contract, usually 7 or 10 days. They can't just show up for work on a random night whenever they believe a customer will meet them there. If they don't fulfill their entire contract they don't get paid and have to pay the barfine each day they don't show up for work. At least this is how it worked pre-COVID. I think MP has confirmed there are currently no contracts since business is slow.

[Mr Enternational]

It's not always about the 500 baht. Many like the agogo bar experience.

What? His post was about a girl NOT wanting to dress up and head across town to get on a stage for 4 or 5 hours unless she knew a trusted customer was going to hire her. It was not about whether the customer wanted to go to the gogo bar for an experience and pay a 500 baht bar fine. If she had a trusted customer that was going to take her, she could just call him up and ask to go straight to his place instead.

We did that during the shutdown. But not all girls want to freelance and would rather keep their connection to a mamasan and the bar system for the time when they return to salaried pay. And there might still be a reason on some nights, weekends maybe, when there is some income from drink commissions and/or a second customer. That must be compelling enough or there would be no girls in the commision-only go-go bars and they'd all be freelancing.

Okay. So now you are saying they DO have a reason to dress up and head across town to get on stage for 4 or 5 hours without there being a trusted customer that will take them.

[EihTooms]

It's not always about the 500 baht. Many like the agogo bar experience.

For me, a go-go bar is the place to see the girls scantily clad, topless or naked before I take them, an opportunity to interact with them on my lap first, with zero chatting on Line required, I take them when I want to have sex with them not after waiting an hour or two due to some unexpected event. And, best of all lately, where a mamasan who knows exactly what I want will bring a new girl to me eager and happy to comply and the mamasan will even confirm it verbally with the girl right in front of me so there will be no confusion about it in the room later.

There is a lot to appreciate about a system like that. Especially when a mamasan in the bar is particularly useful in that way. I am not inclined to piss off such a mamasan or to subjecting myself to a life of annoying inconvenience by cutting out the bar altogether at this time.

In Bangkok at least, those hundreds of go-go bar dancers filling the stages right now weren't around in the food markets, standing on Soi 4, Sukhumvit Road, inside or outside Thermae until a mamasan called them, rounded them up and alerted them to return to Bangkok from their outer province. I am not inclined to cut them out of the deal and the money at this time. Not as long as they perform this job so well.

[Danny Duck]

P.S. What's the atmosphere in Pattaya. Fun times?

In Honolulu it's dreadful.

Lockdown for 3 months. Numbers look good for awhile. Now surging. What's the point of lockdown.

George Soros is laughing his AZZ off. So EZ to decimate the planet.

[Danny Duck]

Tell me again why they would not just go straight to the trusted customer and skip the bar altogether.

It's not always about the 500 baht. Many like the agogo bar experience.

[EihTooms]

Tell me again why they would not just go straight to the trusted customer and skip the bar altogether.

We did that during the shutdown. But not all girls want to freelance and would rather keep their connection to a mamasan and the bar system for the time when they return to salaried pay. And there might still be a reason on some nights, weekends maybe, when there is some income from drink commissions and/or a second customer. That must be compelling enough or there would be no girls in the commision-only go-go bars and they'd all be freelancing. BTW, not all that many customers available being a freelancer these days either.

I could cut out the bar and the mamasan and just have those girls come over in the afternoon or 2-3AM, too, but choose not to do that. For one thing, I'm not so interested in fucking at those times. And for another I really like the service some mamasans have been doing for me even well before the shutdown. Worth the cost of a barfine and a LD for the mamasan, imo. I really don't want to cut out some mamasans. I'd rather keep them doing for me what they do and not rock the boat.

[Mr Enternational]

If they are on commission-only, then I'm guessing there is no penalty for them not showing up. And unless they know there is a very good chance of being barfined by a trusted customer, they have no reason to ride the train or taxi into the area, suit up and stand on the stage for 4-5 hours.

Tell me again why they would not just go straight to the trusted customer and skip the bar altogether.