Pattaya Reports

[Danny Duck]

Imo this is a very legitimate question. When I was first told to come to Thailand by guys like Breadman and Finnish Fucker, my decision was put off by a year when I kept looking at the horror on the free Thai porn sites and in the pics in the photo gallery thread on this site. I kept thinking why the hell would I travel so far and endure intense heat for girls of that low quality when I was happy with my German, Polish, Czech, Hungarian girls in German FKK clubs. As German FKK clubs quickly deteriorated in to Romanian and Bulgarian meat markets I decided to trust Breadman and FF and bought a ticket for the following high season. On my very first night I hit Sensations and Sapphire on Walking Street and kicked myself for not coming sooner. Back then there were easily 150 to 200 girls inside Sensations and close to 100 in Sapphire. I moved to Thailand soon after my first visit. Have only been back to Germany once since I moved to Thailand. Spring to Fall in 2020 was supposed to be my European FKK tour but we all know what happened to those well made plans. FYI I much prefer white girls over Asian girls.

You would be surprised what some think are Hot Thai Girls. LOL. First clue. Price matters.

[Luminous]

On my very first night I hit Sensations and Sapphire on Walking Street and kicked myself for not coming sooner. Back then there were easily 150 to 200 girls inside Sensations and close to 100 in Sapphire. I moved to Thailand soon after my first visit. Have only been back to Germany once since I moved to Thailand.

So is it the quantity of girls in Thailand that attracts mongers there or they really know how to fuck like German / Polish / Colombian. Girls. The porn makes it seem like Thai girls just lay there like a log. Let along enjoying the sex, I barely see them cracking a smile.

I am not implying anything as I have not been to Thailand so far but just curious to understand!

[MonkeyPaw]

Change in Business Model?

Last night went to Pin Up. Somebody important (a Thai girl, maybe related to boss) birthday. Because once she took time to greet me and pour my shot from the iced bottle, since I was the only one in the club with bottle service. Last night she didn't offer me a piece of cake though. Selfish. Looked to be only about 70-75 girls deep. Far cry from the 120 girls from previous visits. Those 10 day contracts are not getting renewed as girls are dropping like flies. Saw a few models that were decent. Still 5,300 (3000+1500+800 drinks) not including your own drinks for ST doesn't seem quite the bargain anymore, especially if there is nowhere to parade the trophy girls like before. Nobody was being barfined. Chilled with a taller cute leggy one that I may get later on, but def not in a hurry. Afterwards stopped by Palace which had 6 mamasans working but only 25-30 girls. 2 of the mamasans are from Bliss and some of the girls as well. They even had their Bliss uniforms on. So Bliss is now shut down, maybe others to follow. I think the owner had to combine the girls because business is that slow. I suggested that he used Fahrenheit as his ONLY club and combine all the girls from every club he owned and use both floors. Make it like a USA strip club with girls having to do what it takes to make tips inside the club. Stage is for shows. Set up some private VIP darkened areas and let their hands and mouths start making some tips with lap dances. He needs to probably follow the same business model of Hong Kong Club in Tijuana and use those rooms adjacent for sex. Rebrand it like a party everyday with some cheap ass buffet. Or even go Thermae business model and allow freelancers to work from the club. You want to be able to steal all of Soi 6 and Ibar customers. Make and sell some VIP cards. Open up at lunch time and afternoon just like Hong King Club. One big party from opening to closed. Charge a cover for food and entry plus one drink if you have to. This customer base of expats will come eat and let the girls work their charm. Charge girls to work there once it gets popular. Whatever you do, use Fahrenheit. It's the best in terms of space and looks. If you have a better venue than they do, you need to be able to deviate from the norm, change and adapt. Whatever it takes to survive and grow. Basically supply is down as demand is down, because like I said before tourist traps need tourists to trap. The mamasans are always asking me when are they coming back. I told them honestly, it's the end of the world as they knew it. The old Go Go business model is pretty much dead. Time to change?

P.S. This is good time to get LINE contacts from the Go Go bar girls and bang them for 1500-2000 outside the club when they shut down again.

[Banana Boi]

Why is Thai porn so bad?

I have never been to Thailand. There are tons of guys on this board that love it there but when I look at the porn it doesn't feel like these will be great sessions.

I must be missing something?

Imo this is a very legitimate question. When I was first told to come to Thailand by guys like Breadman and Finnish Fucker, my decision was put off by a year when I kept looking at the horror on the free Thai porn sites and in the pics in the photo gallery thread on this site. I kept thinking why the hell would I travel so far and endure intense heat for girls of that low quality when I was happy with my German, Polish, Czech, Hungarian girls in German FKK clubs. As German FKK clubs quickly deteriorated in to Romanian and Bulgarian meat markets I decided to trust Breadman and FF and bought a ticket for the following high season. On my very first night I hit Sensations and Sapphire on Walking Street and kicked myself for not coming sooner. Back then there were easily 150 to 200 girls inside Sensations and close to 100 in Sapphire. I moved to Thailand soon after my first visit. Have only been back to Germany once since I moved to Thailand. Spring to Fall in 2020 was supposed to be my European FKK tour but we all know what happened to those well made plans. FYI I much prefer white girls over Asian girls.

[EihTooms]

Why is Thai porn so bad?

I have never been to Thailand. There are tons of guys on this board that love it there but when I look at the porn it doesn't feel like these will be great sessions.

I must be missing something?

No, you're not missing anything. Just keep what you saw in those videos in mind when you read reports here about this or that P4P girl providing "PSE." I always assume they must mean "Thai" PSE, too.

You want to see what is generally meant by "GFE" in these reports? Check out a few Thai TV rom-coms and some of those Thai movies where the big moment is when Noey finally smiles at the guy sitting next her in math class.

That's why I have tried, mostly in vain, to promote the use of a couple of new abbreviations to apply to this hobby as it exists all too often in Thailand in order to have them actually describe something a bit more specific and meaningful;
Real/True PSE and Real/True GFE.

They could be useful for times when other posters show signs of getting unduly riled up by reading the abbreviations for activities you really do see in most porn or that you would expect to get from a real girlfriend.

[Goyo61]

Ahh. I guess your not into Asian women. I Love Asian girls. I love the personalities. I love the culture. I love the girl bars.

I have screwed hookers in many countries and Thailand is Wonderful. Love Mexico as well / Tijuana. But Thailand is safer so it's got an advantage in that comparison.

Goyo.

Hi Friend, Travel to Pattaya once after this corona season. Your opinion will change.

Regards.

[Thampi62]

Why is Thai porn so bad?

I have never been to Thailand. There are tons of guys on this board that love it there but when I look at the porn it doesn't feel like these will be great sessions.

I must be missing something?

Hi Friend, Travel to Pattaya once after this corona season. Your opinion will change.

Regards.

[Franciscass]

Not going to happen. Thai Immgration is too busy harassing and kicking out the foreigners already here, let alone allowing more to stay long term. It would take a significant change of both policy goals and personnel to turn that ship around.

Another example of how different the climate is becoming when it comes to treating foreigners. I went to renew my driving licence yesterday. It expires on the 26th.

Unhelpful official at counter "Cannot today, foreigners now have to make appointment, first date available 17th August".

Me "same same for Thai".

Unhelpful Official 'No, new rule is for foreigners".

Now it does seem appointments are becoming a feature of renewing licences but having to wait a month when their web site show available dates just a day or two away. That and the fact that the appointment sheet I signed specifically was headed "Foreigners" makes me believe the regime is not as friendly to expats as they could be. My visa renewal is next week, hope there are no surprises.

[Banana Boi]

Thailand wants people to pay big money for Long Term stays in their country. They want the broke ass Farang who have been here for a long time gone to make room for those willing to pay a minimum of $16,000 USD for a 5 year Thai Elite Visa.

The pressures on an old expat Farang will mount as more and more Hong Kong and China people buy Thai Elite Visas. That kind of money is nothing for them whereas many Farang in Pattaya drink during the day only because beer is much cheaper at 69 baht.

[LittleBigMan]

Looks like I'll be here another 2 months at least. But yes, a quick Google search "Spain, COVID-19, sewer water," is like revelations. If this is later peer reviewed and confirmed.

I wonder how the governments that blamed China would backtrack and spin the new data?

Oops moment coming? I did say watch Spain (besides their opening to tourists and then lockdown again didn't go as planned).

Are the Thais on point about Westerners to blame?

https://theconversation.com/was-coro...ch-2019-141582

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-53106444

Reading those articles the way things goes I'm sure the government who wants and needs to find another opposite point of view or counter research. Based on the timeline of the article there could be a few holes?

The Thais can make this point? Personally, Thailand with its airspace closed the only repatriation the cases are manageable they actually quarantine everyone here for more than 14 days the real problem is when they actually do allow people to come whether it be the Chinese, Koreans, Japanese and Westerners. The problem will increase to me that is a given even at the early stage of having a vaccine but the numbers will come are they ready to deal with it? Hot air will not kill the virus?

The Thai leaders, not surprisingly have done a great job reporting on their 3 major Thai stations that the problem is with Westerners maybe they know more than all of us that it actually came from Spain all along? Just like they reported treatment for the virus in the beginning, how they will have a vaccine soon, how they will hold the Tour DeFrance in a few years, how they will solve the traffic in Bangkok in a month there is a long list of claims.

[Crocodilexp]

One simple trick would do wonders for Thai tourism and it would cost a Dime.

90 days allowed on entry like Japan. HKG. Singapore.

Thoughts?

Not going to happen. Thai Immgration is too busy harassing and kicking out the foreigners already here, let alone allowing more to stay long term. It would take a significant change of both policy goals and personnel to turn that ship around.

[Danny Duck]

Taboo has been scary for 4 years. What a waste of prime real estate on Walking Street..

One simple trick would do wonders for Thai tourism and it would cost a Dime.

90 days allowed on entry like Japan. HKG. Singapore.

Thoughts?

[Turgid]

Unfortunately, that all too common sentiment among the predominant tourist customer base is probably a major cause of the decline in Thai P4P quality and Value For Money Crocodilexp and others have observed over the past decade or so.

True, sub standard Thai go go girls are much better than their equivalent in farang land.

[MonkeyPaw]

I read this story interesting? Maybe why Oxford is the first to be ahead in finding a vaccine? As for Xi, the wrong guy no lost.

Also, the Government getting ready if not already to announce officially EXTENSION OF AMNESTY until Sept 26th.

Looks like I'll be here another 2 months at least. But yes, a quick Google search "Spain, COVID-19, sewer water," is like revelations. If this is later peer reviewed and confirmed.

I wonder how the governments that blamed China would backtrack and spin the new data?

Oops moment coming? I did say watch Spain (besides their opening to tourists and then lockdown again didn't go as planned).

Are the Thais on point about Westerners to blame?

https://theconversation.com/was-coro...ch-2019-141582

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-53106444

[MonkeyPaw]

Taboo has been scary for 4 years. What a waste of prime real estate on Walking Street.

The options are very limited on WS now. Here is an updated list: Bliss, Taboo, Glass House, Fahrenheit, Palace, Windmill, (maybe) Annabelle's, Doll House, Atlantis, Tantra, Pin Up, Pacha, Moon Club and the Scam are Us clubs (Stars, Moulin Rouge, Coco, and the Ping Pong Show above Airport). Some clubs now have shifted to 8 pm opening and not 7 pm (the Sun is still out). All Clubs besides Pin Up are operating at 30% previous staff and girls. Remember the best and popular girls like Fern and Fha from Palace were making 200-250,000 a month. They have enough saved to last them for years to come and are all MIA. I limit myself to Pin Up and Palace, plus one extra brave entry to another club that dares to open. It has been a disappointment on that bravery. I would say LK Metro or Soi 6 is the better hang out before 8:00 pm. This trip I've done more walking into unknown areas like Soi Buakhao and Chaiyapoon that I've never done before. I get lots of "I know you" or "You remember me. " I would look and it's somebody I've never seen before or at least I think I've never seen before. Is this a desperate attempt at cat calling? Or am I missing something here.