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  1. #30533

    Bareback

    Quote Originally Posted by Gargano19  [View Original Post]
    I think "most" is the key. I know many who after seeing me 2-3 times suggest to have BB sex, and then gets turned down. And many thai WGs love sex without condom, that's their choice.

    Now their are also many who "choose" to do bareback because they know they won't get the money if they say no, because competition is cut-throat. They do it just to pay bills, medicine and parent's bills and if they're unlucky, they will have to feed a child too quite soon. Did they chooae to do bareback? Yes. Did someone forced them to do it? No. It's a very gray zone, no one is really a "culprit", but we know who will be victim in worst case. I believe most WGs are naive and stupid to get knocked up in their early 20's and even before sometimes, and live as single mom. That's why I believe it's quite irresponsible to do bareback with a hooker, especially someone who is too young to have child. And I don't buy it that someone can't come without condom.
    OK, here is a quick one for you! If you really want to BB and you are concerned about the girls, then go to the Doctor and get the snip snip done! Then no problem ever. BB without guilt!
    Last edited by MrClen; 06-29-20 at 20:09. Reason: Spelling

  2. #30532
    Quote Originally Posted by NattyBumpo  [View Original Post]
    Thai hookers come from a multi varied background, have wide differences in attitudes and preferences as well as personalities and sexual proclivities. As the long dead TV narrator used to say, "There are 8 million stories in the Naked City". So, there is no one generalization that can cover all individuals that you may find in the market place, but in my brief experiences in LOS, I can definitely say that NO GIRL ever BAREBACKED ME AGAINST HER WILL or did anything with me that she did not want to do. It Never Happened ! It was always voluntary sex and I have a feeling that is the way it is in a vast majority of hookups.

    We are talking about Thai girls, right? Ha Ha. So many times it is the girl who insists on a condom and the choice she offers me is either condom time, forget about sex with me time, or settle for a BJ time. At other times girls just jumped on my cock giving me very little time to decide if I wanted to play it safe or not. I am sure there are some guys that insist on bareback or other truly gnarly things like peeing on a girl or shitting on her and they get there way with weak, vulnerable girls, or wild anything goes girls, but almost all of the Thai girls I meet are on the conservative side sexually speaking and furthermore know exactly how to stand up for their sexual preferences (their do's & don'ts) and they don't do a damn thing they don't want to do or that is not in their unwritten job description and that includes becoming a prostitute in the 1st place. The key word being "most" Thai girls.

    If you disagree with this assessment you should be consistent with your moral convictions and probably stop seeing Hookers.
    I think "most" is the key. I know many who after seeing me 2-3 times suggest to have BB sex, and then gets turned down. And many thai WGs love sex without condom, that's their choice.

    Now their are also many who "choose" to do bareback because they know they won't get the money if they say no, because competition is cut-throat. They do it just to pay bills, medicine and parent's bills and if they're unlucky, they will have to feed a child too quite soon. Did they chooae to do bareback? Yes. Did someone forced them to do it? No. It's a very gray zone, no one is really a "culprit", but we know who will be victim in worst case. I believe most WGs are naive and stupid to get knocked up in their early 20's and even before sometimes, and live as single mom. That's why I believe it's quite irresponsible to do bareback with a hooker, especially someone who is too young to have child. And I don't buy it that someone can't come without condom.

  3. #30531
    Quote Originally Posted by NattyBumpo  [View Original Post]
    Thai hookers come from a multi varied background, have wide differences in attitudes and preferences as well as personalities and sexual proclivities. There is no one blanket statement that can cover all individuals that you may find in the market place, but in my brief experiences in LOS, NO GIRL ever BAREBACKED AGAINST HER WILL or did anything with me that she did not want to do. Never! It was always voluntary and I have a feeling that is the way it is in a vast majority of hookups. We are talking about Thai girls, right? Ha Ha. So, many many times it was the girl who insisted on a condom and it the choice she offered me was either condom time, forget about sex with me time, or settle for a BJ time. At other times girls just jumped on my cock giving me little time to decide if I wanted to play it safe or not. I sure there are guys that insist on bareback or other truly gnarly things like peeing on a girl or eating her shit and get there way with weak, vulnerable girls, or wild anything goes girls, but almost all of the girls I meet know how to stand up for their preferences and they don't do a damn thing they don't want to do or that is not in their unwritten job description and that includes becoming a prostitute in the 1st place. The key word being "most" girls.
    You're totally true! Girls know exactly what they want! It's just 90% of girls don't use condoms and don't ask men to use condom. But if they insist to put condom, then I'll use condom. And sometimes they ask you to put condoms, only because they know they can get more money! Last time a famous sexy girl in famous bar in Soi 6 told me, she fucks only with condom! I just answered her that with condom I'm not horny and I don't like to use condoms. I just say please.

    And then the girl in less 20 seconds answered me: "ok no condom but you give me 1000 more" ! I say YES and she was happy! And at the end of the act, I was even surprised, because I didn't ask anything and she told me directly "darling, please come in my pussy."

  4. #30530
    Quote Originally Posted by Kazeu  [View Original Post]
    Sex without a condom is not rape. Not even close. I had a girl who I had to disappoint repeatedly because I would always insist on using a condom. Many girls don't like condoms as do most guys.
    Each time I go Thailand, Bangkok, Pattaya or even Cambodia, I never speak about condom! 90% of time, girls even don't ask condoms!

  5. #30529
    Thai hookers come from a multi varied background, have wide differences in attitudes and preferences as well as personalities and sexual proclivities. As the long dead TV narrator used to say, "There are 8 million stories in the Naked City". So, there is no one generalization that can cover all individuals that you may find in the market place, but in my brief experiences in LOS, I can definitely say that NO GIRL ever BAREBACKED ME AGAINST HER WILL or did anything with me that she did not want to do. It Never Happened ! It was always voluntary sex and I have a feeling that is the way it is in a vast majority of hookups.

    We are talking about Thai girls, right? Ha Ha. So many times it is the girl who insists on a condom and the choice she offers me is either condom time, forget about sex with me time, or settle for a BJ time. At other times girls just jumped on my cock giving me very little time to decide if I want to play it safe or not. I am sure there are some guys that insist on some truly gnarly things like peeing on a girl or shitting on her face or something and they get there way with weak, vulnerable girls, or with wild anything goes girls, but almost all of the Thai girls I meet are on the conservative side sexually speaking and furthermore know exactly how to stand up for their sexual preferences (their do's & don'ts) and they don't do a damn thing they don't want to do or that is not in their unwritten job description and that includes becoming a prostitute in the 1st place. The key word being "most" Thai girls. Keep in mind that millions of poor, young, Thai girls choose not to enter the profession. "Up to you" as they say.

    But if you disagree with this assessment you should probably be consistent with your moral convictions and stop seeing Hookers.

  6. #30528

    Two can play

    Quote Originally Posted by Gargano19  [View Original Post]
    That's extremely well put. I am never going to say someone going for bb is wrong or not. But for me it has always been sickening, exploiting girls especially here in SE asia. And even someone is not worried about them getting sick, but what about pregnancy especially in Thailand where abortion is consider "sin". Again, not trying to rant, but I think it's a careless thing. I know couple of Mongers here has done vasectomy, which makes BB much more responsible. I'm well aware, what I am saying is quite meaningless on a forum about prostitution, but still.
    Is it fair the local lasses for free or a fraction of what they charge foreigners. Do guys who blow their life savings get compassion? Unless the monger has game or high income. I see the girl as having the advantage. Some girls earn more than military pensioners. So it's OK for a girl to get $300 each Western Union payments from a dozen men? Mongers can lose in Pattaya. Pattaya is not for everyone and Mr. E system is not for everyone. I consider him a mentor and use to love his system. But now I prefer to get out the Thai game soon. I choose not to visit Patts 3 years down the road. It is my fave destination. With Walking St and Soi 6 quality nosediving my new system would be over 3 k baht for the top 20% prettiest Thai women. Which will make the Bottom 80 disco goers irate because they can't get paid. I'm against flying 20+ hours to pay average looking women. Hey! What do I know? I'm not a senior citizen and have taken a harsh stance on P4P. Soon anything below 8/10 cannot get in my wallet. I would do a 7 for free. In closing it's best I stay away from Patts in 2023.

  7. #30527
    Quote Originally Posted by Crocodilexp  [View Original Post]
    To each their own, but if you insist on being a gentleman, it's far worse to insist that a girl must risk disease (with no risk mitigation possible) and potential pregnancy / abortion (if she didn't do birth control right), than to get her for the lowest price she's willing to accept.

    There's a vocal bareback contingent here, and while you have every right to talk about it, I also have the right to say how sickening, reckless and selfish it is. It's one thing to take the risk yourself, but very different to make a working girl take it, given that she needs to service 1000's of men over her career. Personally, I'd never consider BBFS with a working girl, especially not with a girl who offered or accepted it in the first session.

    Perhaps I'll change my mind and insist on bareback once I get over 70 and don't care for myself since I'm about to die anyway, and don't give a shit about others because I turned into a selfish prick. Once I can no longer get it up, maybe I should learn to enjoy paying people to cross the beach road blindfolded, and see what happens (most of the time it ends up ok). For 1000 baht, I'm sure there will be sufficiently desperate takers, especially when traffic seems light.
    That's extremely well put. I am never going to say someone going for bb is wrong or not. But for me it has always been sickening, exploiting girls especially here in SE asia. And even someone is not worried about them getting sick, but what about pregnancy especially in Thailand where abortion is consider "sin". Again, not trying to rant, but I think it's a careless thing. I know couple of Mongers here has done vasectomy, which makes BB much more responsible. I'm well aware, what I am saying is quite meaningless on a forum about prostitution, but still.

  8. #30526
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  9. #30525

    Not their choise

    Quote Originally Posted by MrEnternational  [View Original Post]
    Many girls do it because it WAS their choice. What is that called?
    If those girls had our knowledge as far as all diseases are concerned and had enough money to get by and support their families and had the choice of a suitable job in a somehow stable economic situation, they would not choose to do that with total strangers. If someone says or pretends that it was her choice or she did not object, then it's just an easy way to justify one's behaviour, as simple as that.

  10. #30524
    Quote Originally Posted by Roginho  [View Original Post]
    How can one be so selfish and careless to have bare back sex! Many girls do it because they have no choice. It's exploitation.
    Many girls do it because it was their choice. What is that called?

  11. #30523
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  12. #30522
    Quote Originally Posted by XXL  [View Original Post]
    Thumbs down!

    This place is the last place before reaching Soi Bukhao.

    I picked a girl and we agreed on bumbum for 1000.

    When I asked for 69 she said anything apart from 69. Just my luck. I asked if menses was the problem she said no. Stubborn as a pig.

    Was she a LB and that was why she didn't want any position that afforded close scrutiny? Didn't look like a LB at all though.

    I gave her 200 and left to have a foot massage in Soi Bukhao.
    Maybe not a bad thing that she didn't agree for 69.

    The place is not very clean, I'm not even sure that the girls take a shower after a session with their customer in that place.

  13. #30521
    Quote Originally Posted by Gilolo  [View Original Post]
    I'll never pay a Thai girl less than 1000. I don't want to become bad boy and exploit the girl too much! I think 1000 is a very good price. Even 1500 is good. But what I want absolutely is BBFS CIP. I fuck only bareback!
    To each their own, but if you insist on being a gentleman, it's far worse to insist that a girl must risk disease (with no risk mitigation possible) and potential pregnancy / abortion (if she didn't do birth control right), than to get her for the lowest price she's willing to accept.

    There's a vocal bareback contingent here, and while you have every right to talk about it, I also have the right to say how sickening, reckless and selfish it is. It's one thing to take the risk yourself, but very different to make a working girl take it, given that she needs to service 1000's of men over her career. Personally, I'd never consider BBFS with a working girl, especially not with a girl who offered or accepted it in the first session.

    Perhaps I'll change my mind and insist on bareback once I get over 70 and don't care for myself since I'm about to die anyway, and don't give a shit about others because I turned into a selfish prick. Once I can no longer get it up, maybe I should learn to enjoy paying people to cross the beach road blindfolded, and see what happens (most of the time it ends up ok). For 1000 baht, I'm sure there will be sufficiently desperate takers, especially when traffic seems light.

  14. #30520
    Quote Originally Posted by MonkeyPaw  [View Original Post]
    Was she a 1000 baht quality girl? Usually, girls know their own worth and all it takes is a few more hundreds to get what you want. Maybe due to the recession in Pattaya and she wasn't able to get her ass waxed, and she didn't want you to see?
    Dumb then because I prefer unwaxed and unshaven. Good luck making her understand such a preference though. Thailand is the last place on Earth to get girls not to mind about things like that.

  15. #30519
    Quote Originally Posted by MrEnternational  [View Original Post]
    90% of chicks will insist on going to your room. I can't really think of any chicks inviting me to come to their room. It is always me inviting myself. That particular chick asked if I had a room first. I told her that I would come to hers.
    But I prefer they come my room! Because first it's clean, and I love to hide my phone and make movie of me and the girl when we fuck!

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