Pattaya Reports

[Mr Enternational]

Will be my strategy going forward. Wonder if this works with outcall as well. I don't like going to the girls rooms.

90% of chicks will insist on going to your room. I can't really think of any chicks inviting me to come to their room. It is always me inviting myself. That particular chick asked if I had a room first. I told her that I would come to hers.

[Mr Enternational]

If you are on a Budget many dark skin Thais available for less than 1,000 baht. Dark skin very undesirable when your main demographic is EZ going Asians.

The light ones must be very undesirable as well since the picture I posted of the 700 baht girl (that will take 500 from now on) shows that she is light, bright, and damn near white. Back to the drawing board with that theory.

[Mr Enternational]

The next day she messaged and I ignored her looking for that greener grass.

LOL. Damn man you are hard. I don't have a particular rule not to repeat. I just do not do it because my fuckit list is already a km long and I am trying to work other chicks in. Whatever the case, I don't ignore anyone. I am still cordial with them. Never know when you will need somebody for something.

[MonkeyPaw]

I agree with Mr. Paw that Bronx Pizza makes some mighty tasty pizza. The 18-inch pie is not cheap at 420-475 baht (depending on toppings). But that is one ginormous pie -- easily enough to last several days using a skillet to reheat the slices as needed. (Don't use the microwave. It makes the pizza soggy and limp.) I prefer the "chew" in Bronx Pizza's crust, which is the "New York pizza" crust that I like. But if you prefer a crispier texture, just ask them and they'll leave your pie in the oven a trifle longer. As for what Mr. Paw should try next, I recommend their Bronx Pizza, which features Italian sausage, green pepper and onion.

https://bronxpizzapattaya.com/

Another member PMed a helpful list and article. At least 2 of the 6 (NY Pizza and Bronx) I mentioned where on my list (of which I tried, but not saying the are the best in Pattaya by any means). Look forward to trying Urban Pizza in the future. But is it really #1?

https://pattayaunplugged.com/who-has...perfect-pizza/

[MonkeyPaw]

Had a nice going away dinner and chat with XXL and another guy from PA at Jolly's on Soi Boo Cow. We were the only people there from 7 until about 8 pm. Thanks to XXL for the treat. The guy is pretty legit and quite young in spirit for some one his age. He sees a girl he likes and has no problem going up to her and trying. Not saying he succeeds all the time, but the fact that he keeps trying is something worth mentioning. Tall Russian chick with 4 muscle heads surrounding her or not, XXL doesn't give a damn. We usually meet regularly at Treetown before the raids and even dropped on 4/20 at a little get together held by guys from PA. My first time rolling with a group like that. Very spiritual 3 hours. Anyways, have a good trip back Europe XXL.

Does this just leave me as the "Last Weekend Warrior" in Pattaya in the whole wide world? Maybe I should just say "Warrior" since I do this for way much longer than a weekend. I've met a bunch of stranded tourists in the last 4 months. But when we share stories about Pattaya, they look at me in awe. My stories at the Go Go bars seem unbelievable to them. Lord, forbid we share pics of the quality of girls we've hunted, which we did. I figure it would come down to this. Just Monkeypaw, the models, the coyotes, and the GoGo bars if they dare to open on Wednesday. Saw a couple of bars at LK Metro doing some cleaning, but not sure what for. Let's see what they do or if they have the guts to try to open.

1. Beach Road girls / ladyboys Sunday to Thurs about 100 of them from Pattaya Klang to bit past Royal Garden. Friday and Saturday much less due to locals swarming the beach on the weekend. Few hookers on Buakhao now, still quite a few LBs around that area and that massage street next to Lengkee.

2. 99% Indian restaurants still closed. Chinese seafood places as well.

3. Almost everything on and near Walking Street is closed.

4. Some hotels are opened, but most that do are still empty.

5. Food lines are still happening daily all over the city.

6. Even TF looks thinner in Pattaya for females specs age 18-29, under 50 kg.

7. Travel agencies / Tour operators all shut down.

8. Hooters BR still closed.

9. Kiss on Second Road about 3 people dining at 6:45 pm Sunday.

10. McD's only opened at TukCom, and Avenue that I know of.

11. Treetown is restricted and 80% less busier than before the raids.

12. Sex can still be found at the massage shops around Buakhao and Soi Honey. Service and quality is a different story.

Basically, if it was a Tourist Trap, whether it was a restaurant, night market, bar, club, massage shop, or whatever type of business or scam it was and you never saw the locals spending their cash at these types of places. It still is closed. Because businesses that operate as tourist traps need tourists to trap. Am I wrong?

[Danny Duck]

Was she a 1000 baht quality girl? Usually, girls know their own worth and all it takes is a few more hundreds to get what you want. Maybe due to the recession in Pattaya and she wasn't able to get her ass waxed, and she didn't want you to see?

Never Truer words said.

Girls know what a guy will pay for Sex with her. Not her gorgeous friend.

Please people these girls are not the idiots many make them out to be.

[Gilolo]

This is what I don't understand about the Dubai, the nut case prices. A few sessions in Dubai for the prices girls are asking and guys are paying would pay for a round trip to Thailand including bed and breakfast. Can't get my head around the $300+ prices that are being paid there. The lowest I could get a girl for in Dubai while I was transiting there was a massage and FS by a Viet girl at my hotel for 400 dhs. I didn't pay for her cab fare and the service was good, but it was 3 or 4 times the cost of what you would pay in Thailand for the same experience.

You usually post pics of cuties Mr E but those girls don't look like they should be getting more than $20 in my opinion. Dubai is nuts!

LOL, words I will never forget: "Where you goooo. " This is news to me, thanks for the info, I had no idea the majority of the girls were P4P, I saw many cute girls in their workplace, including a stunning receptionist and an even cuter dentist. Some of the waitresses were pretty as well. Will try this the next time I'm there, if ever. Hopefully I won't get jumped by a mob of angry Thai dudes. If I do, I hope you're around to make it up with a beer while I tell you the story.

Will be my strategy going forward. Wonder if this works with outcall as well. I don't like going to the girls rooms.

There was a model looking girl that I met online that wouldn't budge from 3000, she started with 5000. I regret not paying the 3000, but then again maybe that because I'm not in monger playland right now, I was too busy for regrets while I was there. She kept sending me these amazing nude pics and vids to entice me, I will leave that report for the BKK thread since this was in BKK.

I'll never pay a Thai girl less than 1000. I don't want to become bad boy and exploit the girl too much! I think 1000 is a very good price. Even 1500 is good. But what I want absolutely is BBFS CIP. I fuck only bareback!

[Bunky]

18-inch cheese is bigger than two 12-inch pizzas at most places. Sauce is pretty legit and homemade. Crust is a bit doughy for me. I prefer it with a bit more crisp. Bought an XL cheese for 420, took it home and reheated it in a pan to make it crispy. Doing it this way puts Bronx at my top pizza in Pattaya. So in this order for best so far. Any others I should try?

I agree with Mr. Paw that Bronx Pizza makes some mighty tasty pizza. The 18-inch pie is not cheap at 420-475 baht (depending on toppings). But that is one ginormous pie -- easily enough to last several days using a skillet to reheat the slices as needed. (Don't use the microwave. It makes the pizza soggy and limp.) I prefer the "chew" in Bronx Pizza's crust, which is the "New York pizza" crust that I like. But if you prefer a crispier texture, just ask them and they'll leave your pie in the oven a trifle longer. As for what Mr. Paw should try next, I recommend their Bronx Pizza, which features Italian sausage, green pepper and onion.

https://bronxpizzapattaya.com/

[DazeUp]

This is part of a report from 2007, my first and only time in Dubai. We left with some Ethiopian chicks out of a pick-up disco and went back to their place without discussing money or anything. These chicks started out wanting 1000 dirham, which at today's rate is US $272. We got them down to 150 dirham, or US $40 at today's rate. We spent the night at their place, me, my wingman, and the 2 chicks, all in the same bed.

This is what I don't understand about the Dubai, the nut case prices. A few sessions in Dubai for the prices girls are asking and guys are paying would pay for a round trip to Thailand including bed and breakfast. Can't get my head around the $300+ prices that are being paid there. The lowest I could get a girl for in Dubai while I was transiting there was a massage and FS by a Viet girl at my hotel for 400 dhs. I didn't pay for her cab fare and the service was good, but it was 3 or 4 times the cost of what you would pay in Thailand for the same experience.

You usually post pics of cuties Mr E but those girls don't look like they should be getting more than $20 in my opinion. Dubai is nuts!

The thing is that this is Pattaya. You do not need a gogo to get right to business. You only need a gogo to fleece you of your money. 90% of the chicks you fix your eyes to here are on the game. That means there is no chasing and no Thai is needed (most speak English anyway. I don't know where it comes from that English is not common among chicks in Pattaya). See a chick walking down the street or in a store and it is simply where are you going? (The first chick I fucked in Thailand (Angels Disco, Nana Hotel, Bangkok 2005) told me the most important thing you need to know to pick up chicks in Thailand is Where are you going; and she taught me to say it in Thai. The first Thai words I learned.) I am going with you.

LOL, words I will never forget: "Where you goooo. " This is news to me, thanks for the info, I had no idea the majority of the girls were P4P, I saw many cute girls in their workplace, including a stunning receptionist and an even cuter dentist. Some of the waitresses were pretty as well. Will try this the next time I'm there, if ever. Hopefully I won't get jumped by a mob of angry Thai dudes. If I do, I hope you're around to make it up with a beer while I tell you the story.

I fucked a chick the other day that wanted 1000 for short time. I told her that long time is 1000 and short time is 700. She opted for short time. I went to her room and fucked her. I told her that from now on I was only giving her 500 for short time and she agreed.

Will be my strategy going forward. Wonder if this works with outcall as well. I don't like going to the girls rooms.

I think it all comes down to mongering style. A lot of times I read guys saying it is only an X baht difference. Don't go home wishing you had just went ahead and paid it. The truth of the matter is that today I remember none of the girls that would not budge.

There was a model looking girl that I met online that wouldn't budge from 3000, she started with 5000. I regret not paying the 3000, but then again maybe that because I'm not in monger playland right now, I was too busy for regrets while I was there. She kept sending me these amazing nude pics and vids to entice me, I will leave that report for the BKK thread since this was in BKK.

[DazeUp]

There have been several posts now responding to Dazeup's post about repeating after a bad session. I believe we have misinterpreted the meaning of his post. Originally I had the same thought as others, why would you repeat a bad session. After reading his post a second time I believe his intent was to say that he rarely repeats, but after having a bad session instead of taking another new girl he will repeat with one of his better sessions in order to not have 2 bad sessions in a row.

I could be wrong, LOL.

Yeah, thanks HP, that's exactly what I meant. The only time I would consider repeating is if I had a bad session and didn't want to risk another one with a new girl. But Thai girls almost always came through with good service.

Variety is appealing, I sessioned with a black girl, a Filipina (not much for variety in Thailand I guess) and considered a Hispanic and white chic but their looks didn't really match the premium they were asking for the variety aspect they were offering.

One reason why I regret the no repeat rule was there was this one girl in her early thirties that I found online. I shoot for younger but she had a nice exotic look about her and a very nice body. I told her you have a nice body and she responded; I know. After we agreed on price she asked me for a pic. I sent her a full body pic without showing my face. She says she needs the face pic. I asked her what she needs the face pic for, were not dating, its an ST thing. She says she won't come without a face pic. So I send her another pic with my eyes blurred out. She sends an angry face and says that she can't see my face properly, LOL. I say F her to myself and ignore her, thinking shell eventually message me about location. She doesn't LOL. So eventually after about 2 hours I give in and she wins, I send her a face pic. We agree on a time.

When she walks through the door, she is very elegant, she looks better than her pics. She's wearing a very nice long dress so I can't make out the body that much, but it added to the aura of class and elegance about her (yeah, I know she is a hooker, but goes to show.). We so small talk for a while before getting down to business.

There was no rush at all, she gave this unforgettable slow BJ and alternated between a slow sensual BJ and a slow sensual HJ in exact intervals, you would have though she was timing it with a stopwatch. I let her have full control of the action after that experience and just let her lead the way to see what else she would do. Stellar session it was, her body was as beautiful as the pics she sent. She had a darker tone to her, I'm not familiar with the areas in Thailand but it was just the perfect complexion in my opinion.

After the session and she showered, she stuck around for some conversation. I usually try not to talk much and give short answers so as to give them the hint there's nothing else going on here and its time to go. But she just looked so nice and exotic in that dress and the conversation was intelligent, I was enjoying it. I asked her if she wanted anything to drink, but when I opened the fridge I had nothing but water left. We talked until she said she had to go about an hour or so later.

The next day she messaged and I ignored her looking for that greener grass. I would definitely repeat with her or a girl like her again in the future. Hopefully wouldn't click to the point of attachment and get stuck with her like an idiot, but it is definitely a possibility that I would be that idiot and let that happen if she kept going on like that.

[MonkeyPaw]

Thumbs down!

This place is the last place before reaching Soi Bukhao.

I picked a girl and we agreed on bumbum for 1000.

When I asked for 69 she said anything apart from 69. Just my luck. I asked if menses was the problem she said no. Stubborn as a pig.

Was she a LB and that was why she didn't want any position that afforded close scrutiny? Didn't look like a LB at all though.

I gave her 200 and left to have a foot massage in Soi Bukhao.

Was she a 1000 baht quality girl? Usually, girls know their own worth and all it takes is a few more hundreds to get what you want. Maybe due to the recession in Pattaya and she wasn't able to get her ass waxed, and she didn't want you to see?

[XXL]

Thumbs down!

This place is the last place before reaching Soi Bukhao.

I picked a girl and we agreed on bumbum for 1000.

When I asked for 69 she said anything apart from 69. Just my luck. I asked if menses was the problem she said no. Stubborn as a pig.

Was she a LB and that was why she didn't want any position that afforded close scrutiny? Didn't look like a LB at all though.

I gave her 200 and left to have a foot massage in Soi Bukhao.

[EihTooms]

I have a slightly different take on this. If the original session was bad I wouldn't do a repeat no matter what the girl said or promised she would do the next time or how good looking she was. Fuck her. She had her chance. There are so many nice girls around. I don't see the point in wasting my time on a loser. But if the original session was ok, but just not great and I felt there was a sincere willingness on the girl's part to make it better and I really liked the way she looked, then I would do a repeat and have done so on several occasions. Sometimes a repeat under those circumstances can be very rewarding and lead to a real nice friendship. Ha Ha. But I got to feel that sincerity to please on the girl's part and the room for improvement or else there is no point.

On the flip side, I have occasionally had first night sessions that were fucking amazing and I really looked forward to repeating with the girl, but every once in a while that highly anticipated repeat turns out to be a big let down. Go figure. Although come to think of it, one of the last times something like that happened to me was when I barfined the original girl's girl friend in between our two nights together. Apparently the original girl did not like my barfining her friend which she made abundantly clear to me on our 2nd night together. So, she made passionate love to me the 1st night and on our 2nd night she was an assembly line - very mechanical. For example: we bareback shagged in the shower with only my feet on the tile floor the 1st night vrs. covered sex in the bed, no DFK the 2nd night. At the time I felt the entire 3 night experience was comical and depressing so I dropped both girls. Ha Ha, but looking back it was a great punting memory, especially that all in 1st night with the original girl. I only wish there could have been a couple more sessions like that first night. I guess I blew it. But I should add that I met both girls at the same time and there was talk of a mnage a trois before I decided to take the original girl first and do her friend later so technically I did nothing that anyone should have gotten upset about. But then I am not a 18 year old Khmer hostess girl, so what do I know. 555.

I agree with you about "Fuck her. She had her chance" and not repeating under any circumstances if the session was bad for reasons beyond her stopping everything cold at the moment of penetration because a "go with the flow in the room" approach went horribly bad for me and she would in no way go for, lay there for or allow BBFS+CIP or replace it with BBBJ+CIM, which is what I was alluding to in my example.

At that point, the session is over and I will pay her something for her time and whatever else we've done up to that point, on a case by case basis. Often I will pay the entire going rate or what we agreed on. My bad for "going with the flow in the room" instead of making the "what for?" part of the arrangement as clear as possible upfront.

In which case the girl changing her mind later and wanting a second chance is fine, can even be great. But she would need to agree to those "if I don't, then you don't pay me anything" terms. I have also worked a lower payment into second chance sessions like that.

I have definitely had the second session go the way you described after taking a girl's friend or even just another girl in the same bar when the first girl wasn't around! LOL. Hell, I've had girls I've taken 4 times say NO to a fifth time after I dared to take another girl from the same bar in between.

[Mr Enternational]

I have no doubt that what you are saying is true and is the best way to go, however, I think it is more geared towards people living in Thailand or people who spend long periods of time there.

Living somewhere or being a long time visitor has nothing to do with nothing. I say this because I do the same thing everywhere I go. This is part of a report from 2007, my first and only time in Dubai. We left with some Ethiopian chicks out of a pick-up disco and went back to their place without discussing money or anything. These chicks started out wanting 1000 dirham, which at today's rate is US $272. We got them down to 150 dirham, or US $40 at today's rate. We spent the night at their place, me, my wingman, and the 2 chicks, all in the same bed.

we got deeper into our girls. we took their breasts out and started sucking them. i reached over to feel the tits of my wingmans 20-year-old girl. how supple they were. then it was back to dfk and ass grabbing. i started putting my hands inside of her pants in order to see how smooth her ass was. just then, out of nowhere, the subject of money came up! what a mood ruiner. they started with a number but it was in no way magic. 1000. be serious. i countered with 150. they laughed, but finally came down to 500. this is the part of the game where me and my wingman play good-monger, bad-monger.

my girl questioned why we would not give them at least 500. she said that the other guy had just parted with 1000 for their roommate. i told her that its a good thing for me that i was not the other guy. they went on to explain to us how they have to pay 4500 dirham/month for the apartment and 1000 (i dont remember if it was dollars or dirham) every three months for a visa. i was thinking to myself that surely this roach motel does not cost 4500 dirham/month. that is more than my fucking mortgage.

my wingman took over negotiations and using the classic line (havent you ever heard the saying that some money is better than no money?) that he uses worldwide was able to seal the deal at 150 dirham for each of them.

There was a clear difference between girls asking about 1000 baht and the girls in Gogo's asking 2-3000 baht, regardless of the venue. I fully understand that those same girls may have a hotter cousin or sister working at the mall or supermarket, but as a tourist with about 2 weeks to spend there, I'd rather get right to business with a quick transaction than to chase after cuties in malls with a 50/50 chance I may make a score, or may be offensive, esp since I don't speak any Thai.

The thing is that this is Pattaya. You do not need a gogo to get right to business. You only need a gogo to fleece you of your money. 90% of the chicks you fix your eyes to here are on the game. That means there is no chasing and no Thai is needed (most speak English anyway. I don't know where it comes from that English is not common among chicks in Pattaya). See a chick walking down the street or in a store and it is simply where are you going? (The first chick I fucked in Thailand (Angels Disco, Nana Hotel, Bangkok 2005) told me the most important thing you need to know to pick up chicks in Thailand is Where are you going; and she taught me to say it in Thai. The first Thai words I learned.) I am going with you.

You see a cutie in the mall. It is simply, what time you finish work; I want to meet with you. It is shooting fish in a barrel that does not have water in it. You can not miss. I have made report after report after report of this nature. If you are shy or whatever and have a fear of approaching a woman unless it is in a hooker den, then that is a horse of another color.

The girls who messaged me after a session, I'm pretty sure that if I told them I only had 700 to spend they would still come over, its better than nothing, one girl even volunteered to come for less. But I have also come across girls who would not budge from their stated price, because with so many other punters around, it won't be long before they get what they are asking for and I have seen that happen over and over again.

Chicks have messaged me wanting to come, and me not wanting to be bothered have told them I do not have any money. At which time they have said not to worry about money and that everything is not about money.

I fucked a chick the other day that wanted 1000 for short time. I told her that long time is 1000 and short time is 700. She opted for short time. I went to her room and fucked her. I told her that from now on I was only giving her 500 for short time and she agreed.

I think it all comes down to mongering style. A lot of times I read guys saying it is only an X baht difference. Don't go home wishing you had just went ahead and paid it. The truth of the matter is that today I remember none of the girls that would not budge. My mongering style is to get right to the point. Let's go fuck. How much do you want? If a chick does not want to accept what I am willing to pay or I am not willing to pay what she will accept, then it goes in one ear and out the other and I simply move to the next. There is no regretting and harping on it was only X more baht and could have possibly been the mother of all mongering sessions. Maybe for a guy that has to have some needle in a haystack he was seeking out that it took him 3 days to find, but I have never seen a turtle with speed or a chick that I need. And here in Thailand, there are so many chicks that will accept what I am paying, that a beat is not skipped if I don't reach an agreement with one.

Now if my mongering style was to be caked up in some bar or gogo or even disco plying a chick with drinks, aka making an investment trying to establish some chemistry, rapport, or whatever else, then the it is only an X baht difference may come into play. Hell, I would have already invested so much time and money in the chick, so sure then maybe go ahead and pay it. Good thing for me is that I am not that kind of monger. I prefer the no investment speed dating style over the investment courtship style. If she will not budge, then I have lost nothing, and I remember it the same way as I remember what I had for lunch on January 16th.

[Houston Player]

I never repeated, variety is what I'm looking for when I travel. But now I know that if I find a gem Ill repeat, just not everyday, maybe twice a week max, if I had a bad session.

There have been several posts now responding to Dazeup's post about repeating after a bad session. I believe we have misinterpreted the meaning of his post. Originally I had the same thought as others, why would you repeat a bad session. After reading his post a second time I believe his intent was to say that he rarely repeats, but after having a bad session instead of taking another new girl he will repeat with one of his better sessions in order to not have 2 bad sessions in a row.

I could be wrong, LOL.