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  1. #30324
    Quote Originally Posted by Pimpampoumpipo  [View Original Post]
    Not putting a condom with prostitutes in a city like Pattaya or Angeles City is like playing Russian roulette with 5 bullets in the barrel of the revolver.
    I say the risk is much higher in the Germany AO clubs where girls go through 20 customers per day and get creampied by 20 guys at once in those gangbang clubs. Even popular girls at normal FKK clubs like Acapulco do BBFS.

    I don't know PI but I know Pattaya gogo girls will do max 2 guys per night but the majority are lucky to get 1 guy.

    Quote Originally Posted by NattyBumpo  [View Original Post]
    But you, Turgid, or whatever other fake handle you like to use, I have a question for you: have you ever been to AC? or Pattaya?
    :-0.

  2. #30323
    Quote Originally Posted by Turgid  [View Original Post]
    I suspect dishonesty of anyone who says they barebacked in Angeles City and did not pick up something.
    Why would real BM's lie about something as occupational as catching an STD? You catch it, you take care of it, and then you post a trip report about it if you want to. It can happen to anybody. It's no big deal. There is no stigma. But you, Turgid, or whatever other fake handle you like to use, I have a question for you: have you ever been to AC? or Pattaya?

  3. #30322
    Quote Originally Posted by Pimpampoumpipo  [View Original Post]
    When I have had too much to drink, I may skip the condoms although I know it is just a huge mistake. Afterwards, I still really get mad at myself for playing so badly with my health. Then I go through bad days and bad nights wondering if I haven't caught a disease that can be serious. And unfortunately my experience has already proved me right.

    Not putting a condom with prostitutes in a city like Pattaya or Angeles City is like playing Russian roulette with 5 bullets in the barrel of the revolver.
    I suspect dishonesty of anyone who says they barebacked in Angeles City and did not pick up something.

  4. #30321
    When I have had too much to drink, I may skip the condoms although I know it is just a huge mistake. Afterwards, I still really get mad at myself for playing so badly with my health. Then I go through bad days and bad nights wondering if I haven't caught a disease that can be serious. And unfortunately my experience has already proved me right.

    Not putting a condom with prostitutes in a city like Pattaya or Angeles City is like playing Russian roulette with 5 bullets in the barrel of the revolver.

  5. #30320
    Quote Originally Posted by XXL  [View Original Post]
    This girl certainly valued me as a regular customer because she always had time for me. Only once did she ask if she could come 1 hour earlier than my usual time, otherwise she just agreed to come when I wanted. She was probably not desperate for customers because she hardly ever (only once if I remember right) sent me a message to try and bring about a new meeting. She only reacted when prompted. I remember once the condom had broken and she hadn't seemed to give a damn.
    Just offer her to go and get tested together at the clinic if you want to bareback her. She will probably accept it.

    girl I ill-fatedly barebacked on the other hand hardly let a day go by without initiating. A different degree of desperateness was at play. I had sensed this and that was why I fell back on her for barebacking, on the rebound so to speak after my Number One turned me down. My mistake.
    You cannot know which girl will give you a disease unless you really know if she is infectious or what she is doing when she is not with you and which kind of guys she is meeting but that's a different story. In that case you've probably just been unlucky.

    Once I was staying with the same girl in Pattaya for more than two weeks. She gave me numerous BBBJ during that time but it's only a day before my departure that she infected me.

    She just changed the way she gave me her BJ and that was it, that got my urethra infected.

    Later I learned that it happened to other guys she had fucked and she knew she was giving the disease to other people but she was acting as if she was clean.

    So don't count on these girls to be cautious or ethical, they will just hide whatever they can, fuck any guy they want and take the money.

  6. #30319
    Quote Originally Posted by Goferring  [View Original Post]
    I beg to differ:

    Why is she a long term repeat if she is not performing required duties?

    BBFS is hardly the holy grail worthy of hooker worship or unlimited compensation. If it's a requirement and one girl won't provide, just move onto another that will.

    How definite was her 'no'? I'm all for respecting girls' limits but if she was just testing the water is she really prepared to lose a good customer over it?

    Cheers. G.
    Of course, all anyone has to do is move on to the next one who will.

    But I submit that a customer who wants an upfront agreement to go bareback with (the qualifiers I cited) a sober, notably above average looking young Thai girl under circumstances where she has plenty of time to think about it and plenty of other options available to her at the moment, is a customer who is going to be moving on a lot more often and engaged in the hunt a lot longer than the customer who is fine with an older or middling looking (or less) Thai woman, catches her as she is stumbling out of a bar at 4am and commences a "go with the flow in the room" approach with someone who very well might be so out of it by then no intelligent discussion about anything is necessary or even possible.

    Imo, the former qualifies as a much heavier lift for any punter than the latter with the additional moving on and continued hunt being the "lift."

  7. #30318
    Quote Originally Posted by Gargano19  [View Original Post]
    She was massage shop girl, I guess they get tested regularly.
    You're guessing wrong. Each shop have their own rules.

    In most places they might get them tested when they start working there and that's it.

    Unless it's a shop that advertise it as for the DD shop in Pattaya when they put each girls test on their website and they say they test them every month, but even then you cannot trust their tests.

  8. #30317
    Quote Originally Posted by Goferring  [View Original Post]
    I beg to differ:

    Why is she a long term repeat if she is not performing required duties?

    BBFS is hardly the holy grail worthy of hooker worship or unlimited compensation. If it's a requirement and one girl won't provide, just move onto another that will.

    How definite was her 'no'? I'm all for respecting girls' limits but if she was just testing the water is she really prepared to lose a good customer over it?

    Cheers. G.
    This girl certainly valued me as a regular customer because she always had time for me. Only once did she ask if she could come 1 hour earlier than my usual time, otherwise she just agreed to come when I wanted. She was probably not desperate for customers because she hardly ever (only once if I remember right) sent me a message to try and bring about a new meeting. She only reacted when prompted. I remember once the condom had broken and she hadn't seemed to give a damn.

    The girl I ill-fatedly barebacked on the other hand hardly let a day go by without initiating. A different degree of desperateness was at play. I had sensed this and that was why I fell back on her for barebacking, on the rebound so to speak after my Number One turned me down. My mistake.

  9. #30316
    Quote Originally Posted by Gargano19  [View Original Post]
    Even during lockdown and no tourists, I have seen hookers inbox on dating sites filled with 100's of dudes like us for meeting.
    Very true but how many of those inbox wanabees actually make the trip and are standing in front of her with 3 k in his wallet?

    G.

    P.S. The whole message a month before arrival vs only when in country is a whole other debate. 😁.

    Enjoy. G.

  10. #30315
    Quote Originally Posted by Goferring  [View Original Post]
    How definite was her 'no'? I'm all for respecting girls' limits but if she was just testing the water is she really prepared to lose a good customer over it?

    Cheers. G.
    You're just assuming that she has lack of other customers who are happy to do covered sex and pay. Even during lockdown and no tourists, I have seen hookers inbox on dating sites filled with 100's of dudes like us for meeting.

  11. #30314
    Quote Originally Posted by MonkeyPaw  [View Original Post]
    Should there really be homeless people when there are empty hotels and condos everywhere? The irony in that.
    No irony in it if you consider why the people are homeless. Is it simply because they could not afford a place to stay as I would say is not the case of most? More than likely there is some other underlying issue. Is it because they burned their house down after smoking meth as the guy in Chonburi did the other day? Is it because they gamble away all the money that comes into their hands? I certainly would not want anyone living in a place of mine who was not going to respect and take care of the place. I had to put my own brother out because he was so messy and never wanted to clean up; so a stranger would not stand a chance. And if a person has family that will not allow them to stay at their place then those red flags must be considered.

    Just like back home in the USA when people say how unfair the system is. My first question is did you go to school and do all your homework and study and do all that you were supposed to do. Usually the people complaining are not those that have painstakingly followed the prescribed methodology. At some point personal responsibility has to be taken as to why one has not been able to gain any traction or why one does not have a place to stay. You can't just fuck off the entire time then decide you are entitled to something that you have not earned while others around you have been busy earning what they have.

    I love my closest cousin very dearly, talk to him almost every day, and he is one of my best friends. Hell, I even took part of his GED test for him back in 1989 so he could go to the Marines. Now he is almost 50 years old and has fucked off most of his life doing nothing. (When he was married his wife even gave him money for him to live in Pattaya and he fucked that off as well.) A few months ago he had a disagreement with his mom and asked if he could come stay at my place. My answer was no fucking way. If you are almost 50 and don't have your own place by now then there is nobody to blame but yourself. Nobody is about to lay up in my shit doing nothing while I am out working hard to pay for it.

  12. #30313
    Quote Originally Posted by EihTooms  [View Original Post]
    What you attempted to do with your long term repeat girl is one of the heaviest lifts in the P4P world, imo. So it isn't surprising her answer was No.....
    I beg to differ:

    Why is she a long term repeat if she is not performing required duties?

    BBFS is hardly the holy grail worthy of hooker worship or unlimited compensation. If it's a requirement and one girl won't provide, just move onto another that will.

    How definite was her 'no'? I'm all for respecting girls' limits but if she was just testing the water is she really prepared to lose a good customer over it?

    Cheers. G.

  13. #30312
    Quote Originally Posted by Gargano19  [View Original Post]
    Pretty much 100% agree with what you said. Another point made by a monger couple of posts back, is age. If someone is 60-70+, they might be more inclined to go bareback. What's thr worst case, die with STD in 70's?.
    That means they have not learn what it means to empathize, even at that golden age of supposed "wisdom. " Those are the type that really has the "all about me, myself, and I" mentality. What about passing that shit around and can lead to deformed babies and shit. But let me guess, that's the female's responsibility. The ones with true ego always have a reckoning to deal with in the end.
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  14. #30311
    Quote Originally Posted by MonkeyPaw  [View Original Post]
    My take is that if they can sit there and jack themselves off with a condom on looking at porn, then they can cum with a condom during sex. It's 100% mental. Has anybody masturbated to a real steamy porn and only lasted like 15 seconds? But yet during sex can last so much longer? It's in the mind. Often, I have to fantasize that I'm some John (which I am), trying to get this dumb ass hooker pregnant by busting a nut in her pussy and then leaving her ass for the next girl. And that's how I manage to cum with a condom, aside from the gobs of 100% aloe vera gel instead of KY. Last girl I banged, condom snapped. I heard it and also felt it. She did not. It took me about 2 seconds to pull out, wash my dick, and had her suck me to a CIM finish in which she ate it all (thanks to pineapple juice). The risk is just not worth it because technically, what's the reward?
    Pretty much 100% agree with what you said. Another point made by a monger couple of posts back, is age. If someone is 60-70+, they might be more inclined to go bareback. What's thr worst case, die with STD in 70's?

    On breaking condom, that doesn't happen much with me. But just last month it broke and I didn't felt it until I made 5-6 more strokes. Took it out and bang, it was broken. Hmm I should've cleaned it first, but I just put another condom, added some lube on her pussy and my rubber and continued LOL. Though I washed it with more attention than usual after finishing. She was massage shop girl, I guess they get tested regularly.

  15. #30310
    Quote Originally Posted by XXL  [View Original Post]
    I wanted to go easy on my stash of Sagamis L-size since BOOTS in Pattaya have not been restocking them since the lockdown started.

    The plan was to go bareback every other day. My all-time Pattaya favourite declined, which pissed me off somewhat. I fell down on a cheaper, less good-looking girl who accepted provided I added 200 on top of her usual 1000.

    The first barebacking was only 6 days ago and today I'm back from BHP hospital with a diagnosis of gonorrhoea (always have to call the spellchecker on that word). One shot in the buttock and a fourfold dose or oral azithromycin. I had done this girl covered many times before going bareback with her, including DATY, which warrants the conclusion that condoms are good protection and that oral contamination is negligible.

    Lesson 1 : never assume a girl will go bareback with you no matter how long-standing and solid your relationship with her.

    Lesson 2 : bareback promiscuity in this environment is a shitty hobby.
    Sorry to hear you had that problem, XXL. Does that mean you will never again go bareback or just that you will chalk it up as a bump in the road you are willing to deal with in this hobby and move on as before?

    What you attempted to do with your long term repeat girl is one of the heaviest lifts in the P4P world, imo. So it isn't surprising her answer was No. Asking (and getting) an upfront agreement to go bareback from a notably above average looking young Thai female under circumstances where she is sober, has plenty of time to think about it and many other options at her disposal, not "go with the flow in the room", not after she reeled drunk out of a bar at 4am and so on, is not something most punters would even dare try.

    The only thing more of a challenge than what you tried with your long term girl would be if you had requested that upfront agreement on meeting her for the first time. That move is definitely not for faint of heart punters.

    BTW, I think it might be fairly easy to get gonorrhea orally and have met a couple of men who said they got it that way via DATY in either Thailand or the Philippines. Although, for whatever reason, my percentage of times getting an STD from going bareback for 45+ years with thousands of women and engaging in a monumental amount of DATY and BBBJ along the way is similar to Natty's 0.00%. But maybe mine is something like 0.001% because I did catch a dose of easily cured trichomoniasis from a university girlfriend in my early 20's.

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