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  1. #29873
    Quote Originally Posted by EihTooms  [View Original Post]
    I would also think around 500 - 700 baht for ST and 1,200 - 1,500 baht for LT is totally believable and doable on a regular basis with freelancers in Pattaya. For some of us, it is paying more than that for what is generally available in Pattaya that is unbelievable. If some reasonable standard combination of youth, looks, demeanor, skills and cooperation is the goal, that is. I'm sure there must be FLs in Pattaya who command thousands of baht for LT and can afford to say No to 1,200 baht offers left and right until they get their price. Somewhere.

    It can even be done with some regularity in the lower Sukhumvit and Patpong areas of Bangkok if you put your mind to it, are almost constantly on the hunt and aren't too picky about age, weight, overall looks (yes, facial attractiveness is a biggie in this regard) and skills.

    For the most part I pay freelancers in Bangkok 2,000 - 2,500 baht for LT. I can't remember the last time I agreed to pay more than that except for a lovely Vietnamese girl I met online over a year ago to whom I paid about 7,000 baht for a dream LT where my every sexual wish with her was fulfilled between 10pm and 12Noon the next day. I would go to 3,000 baht for LT if the girl was enticing enough and she would not budge.

    I prefer LT over ST. But when I do a ST it generally comes to 1,000 - 1,500 baht. Although I have agreed to as much as 2,500 baht for ST with a few Thermae girls..
    I totally believe Mr E prices are attainable. What he doesn't not want to disclose is what he is getting for those prices. Freelancers by and large are not an attractive group. You need to actually see what's on the street. You can spot a Prostitoot a mile away. Majority are under 1,000 k. Many are overpriced at 700. That's how bad they are.

    One of his bargain girls he mentioned doesn't attract Asian Johns. That gives a clue as to the type Mr E fancies.

  2. #29872
    Quote Originally Posted by MrEnternational  [View Original Post]
    So why did you give prices without posting any pictures period?
    I'm not claiming I get Hot Pretty Girls for 700 baht.

  3. #29871
    Quote Originally Posted by JimmyBoy99  [View Original Post]
    I have not heard of many 14-hour STs. She earned her 700 baht the first hour (or max the second hour). She was there for the next 12-13 hours because she enjoyed being with Mr. Enternational apart from the money.
    No. She drank me out of 700 baht the first hour! I have all this liquor. But when chicks come over I make them drink it only with ice. No problem. This chick is only 47 kg. She will have 1 or 2 drinks of this strong shit and be finished. WRONG! WRONG!

    First I let her try some Malibu. She said it was too sweet. I made her finish the serving though. Then she was staring seeing what she wanted to try next. She picked up the Amaretto, but I told her that was sweeter than the Malibu. So she tried the Gentleman Jack. After that she wanted more but I was not going to let her drink all of that. So she started drinking Chivas. She drank half of a 1 liter bottle of Chivas finishing it off.

    I literally had to cut her off. She was at the bar trying to see what to drink next. The only way I could stop her was to turn off everything in the room so it would be black dark and she could not see. Then I made her go to sleep. I have no idea how guys like dealing with drunk chicks. It is like herding cats. The next day I told her from now on there is a 2 drink maximum.

    Speak of the damn devil. She just hit me up trying to come over again.
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  4. #29870
    Quote Originally Posted by MonkeyPaw  [View Original Post]
    This is why beach is off limits. Has nothing to go with spread of Covid-19. Monkeypaw strikes again, told you so. Read my last sentence. Pretty good with this prediction stuff.

    https://pattayaone.news/bang-sean-be...***-reopening/
    Well it seemed a total waste of time from the beginning. There was practically nobody on the beach. The way they talk you would think people were gathering in packs. At Jomtien you would see a family here and there. We all know that the Thai people like to sit on the sidewalk with their mat and eat with friends. There were maybe 2 cases of this at Pattaya beach and 3 at Jomtien whenever I rode through. Here is a picture of Pattaya beach from over a month ago. NOBODY at the fucking beach.
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  5. #29869
    Quote Originally Posted by JimmyBoy99  [View Original Post]
    You're forgetting that very few (if any) other mongers have your charm and sexual attractiveness to Thai women, since you are the only one posting that he is getting ex go go girls (not Beach Road skanks) for 700 baht ST, as well as multiple freebie girls.
    I am also the only one posting she asked for 2000 and I told her no way. Other people are saying she asked for 2000 and I told her let's go. See the true difference? Has nothing to do with attractiveness and other bullshit. It has everything to do with opening your mouth.

    You think I get taxis from the airport for 900 because I am attractive to the male drivers? Or is it simply because they ask for 1500 and I SAY no way, 900 plus 60 for the tolls, while others are saying okay 1500 let's go?

    Ask FL Hawk about the last time he was here and I took him to my tailor. I said tell him all the stuff you want then ask him how much. No matter what he says, tell him that is way too much and you did not plan on spending that much. You should have seen how charming Hawk was with the tailor! No idea why this is so difficult for some people to do.

    Still haven't gotten to the report, but after I suggested MP ask chicks why they ask a certain price, I decided to do the same. The first reason the gogo chick that wanted 2000 short time said was because guys are going to ask for a lower price. In other words she starts high so it gives her room to negotiate. It has nothing to do with knowing what she is worth. And if she catches a guy who just pays the first price he is given, then it is a lucky day for her.

    I am not telling you anything that is going to cost you money to try out. You do not have to go buy any special clothes to try this. You do not have to make sure you have had a haircut and shave before you try this. You do not have to put on cologne or make sure your breath is as fresh as Everest peak. All you have to do is open your mouth and say that is too much. But it seems like that is kryptonite to some people. They will make every excuse for NOT negotiating.

  6. #29868
    Quote Originally Posted by DannyDuck  [View Original Post]
    Prices without face pictures is meaningless.
    So why did you give prices without posting any pictures period?

  7. #29867
    YYZtravel,

    The key to Pattaya as said many times over on this board is don't overplan. I still recall my first visit I had about 7 months to pre-plan. When I got there none of my planning mattered other than learning the baht bus route and selecting as nice a hotel my budget could afford along the baht bus route. Pattaya is a go with the flow sort of town. Hit Walking Street, LK Metro, Soi 6, walk along Beach Roach, hit the soapies, walk around Soi Buakhao and Soi 25, a place like iBar or 808, maybe try a G club or BJ bar. Wear dry fit light clothing and long shorts because it's hot in Thailand. Wear comfortable footwear because you will be walking a lot on very uneven sidewalks. Nice sandals are acceptable footwear in almost all places in Pattaya. You can pick up girls anywhere as Mr. E has posted here many times. Just go with the flow it will all work out for you. The girls will find you.

    If time permits, try a few days in Bangkok as well and compare the two cities. Go to Bangkok at the beginning of your trip directly from the airport. It's closer for the travel weary.

  8. #29866
    Quote Originally Posted by MrEnternational  [View Original Post]
    You are full of shit and this post has ZERO information in it. Nobody tried to touch your pockets unless it was a Thai ladyboy that you mistook for an Indian.

    A dangerous Indian guy in Pattaya? Get the fuck out of here.

    Newsflash: Everybody sees chicks as sexual toys; that is why guys come to Pattaya!

    Little budget? Chicks tell me that Indian guys are the ones who pay the most. No need to lie to me; I pay the least and find it no badge of honor or pride to be a big spender in a hooker haven..
    Good pick up Mr E. Turkish63's report was indeed rather strange for a first up contribution from a newbie. I see that his report has now been deleted after you saw straight through the BS. If I was a first time monger to LOS, I would be spending all my time chasing LBFMs and seeing how much pussy I could get. Now what does Turkish63 claim to do? He spends all his time observing, criticizing and writing about another ethnic tourist group. And other mongers believed that BS.

    FWIW, Indian cities are now full of AMPS (or at least they were before the Wuhan Reaper struck). Guess where the staff come from? If Indian men were that smelly, cheap and dangerous, I don't think thousands of LBFMs would be flying out of BKK to various Indian cities to service Indian cock.

  9. #29865
    Quote Originally Posted by Goferring  [View Original Post]
    It's not Mr E's good looks, wit and charm that is securing these deals. It's that he is there, now and dependable. I'm also guessing he treats the girls in a tolerable way so that they can provide positive references to their friends. Believe me positive or negative news spreads quickly. Snip.
    I have not heard of many 14-hour STs. She earned her 700 baht the first hour (or max the second hour). She was there for the next 12-13 hours because she enjoyed being with Mr. Enternational apart from the money.

  10. #29864
    Price shaming needs to stop.

    Not all of us wants to buy an old aging brown banana. We like nubile cutesy type girls.

  11. #29863
    Quote Originally Posted by PuteNut  [View Original Post]
    It's funny, I seem to achieve pretty much the same price points as Mr E on my best days, even though I mostly lack charm (but I'm a half decent negotiator). Also it doesn't read "horny bastard" on my forehead, which may help. It's more or less like buying a car, nothing remarkable about it. Totally doable. Up to you.
    I would also think around 500 - 700 baht for ST and 1,200 - 1,500 baht for LT is totally believable and doable on a regular basis with freelancers in Pattaya. For some of us, it is paying more than that for what is generally available in Pattaya that is unbelievable. If some reasonable standard combination of youth, looks, demeanor, skills and cooperation is the goal, that is. I'm sure there must be FLs in Pattaya who command thousands of baht for LT and can afford to say No to 1,200 baht offers left and right until they get their price. Somewhere.

    It can even be done with some regularity in the lower Sukhumvit and Patpong areas of Bangkok if you put your mind to it, are almost constantly on the hunt and aren't too picky about age, weight, overall looks (yes, facial attractiveness is a biggie in this regard) and skills.

    For the most part I pay freelancers in Bangkok 2,000 - 2,500 baht for LT. I can't remember the last time I agreed to pay more than that except for a lovely Vietnamese girl I met online over a year ago to whom I paid about 7,000 baht for a dream LT where my every sexual wish with her was fulfilled between 10pm and 12Noon the next day. I would go to 3,000 baht for LT if the girl was enticing enough and she would not budge.

    I prefer LT over ST. But when I do a ST it generally comes to 1,000 - 1,500 baht. Although I have agreed to as much as 2,500 baht for ST with a few Thermae girls.

    However, there is one gigantic glaring and critical difference about my P4P experiences anywhere in Thailand that I don't believe applies to any other regular poster on these threads and therefore likely renders much of my stated price ranges irrelevant to anyone else; 90% of the time I require an upfront agreement to engage in BBFS+CIP from the P4P girls I approach or that approach me in person or online. Sometimes, but not all that often, an upfront agreement for BBBJ+CIM will be enough to close the deal for me.

    That does not mean I choose a girl and then "go with the flow and see what happens in the room" and find myself scoring BBFS+CIP 90% of the time. Nope. That means I literally bring up the subject on the street, in the bar or club, online, you name it, and get a clear and unambiguous agreement from the girl that she would be fine with engaging in that with me before we so much as take that first step in the direction of my room.

    So I think we are really talking about a much higher "ask" of the girl in my situation than most other punters would ever dare. I doubt there are many punters out there doing what I do in Thailand AND regularly negotiating it down to 500 - 700 baht for ST and 1,200 baht for LT. Not with girls most of us would be willing to touch with a barge pole, that is. Although I am sure there are anecdotal exceptions.

    All that said, for years now about half the girls I have had in Bangkok were non P4P girls with regular jobs who got upset if I mentioned paying them for it beyond a token 100 - 200 baht for their taxi travel to and from my place. Right up to today. Naturally, that reduces the costs for sex that I've mentioned considerably. But that doesn't exactly pertain to the P4P issue.

  12. #29862

    Beach closure

    Quote Originally Posted by MonkeyPaw  [View Original Post]
    Containing the spread of COVID-19 is just an excuse. No tourist means no money. Means government doesn't get money. So they will close. It's the same as why are some restaurants still closed and some are open. It's about how much business and they can make. So what closed Walking Street was the lack of customers. I was there. Walking into Palace at 11 pm to only 9 girls on stage and 4 customers was sad. Even I thought, it's time to put them out of their misery and close shop. So the business owners made a few calls to their government buddies they pay off. The staff can't get mad to the government, so take the blame for us. Send them all home and packing. Hopefully this make sense. Look who works those beaches (vendors and water sports providers and lot attendants with their chairs). All pay a kick back. People using and trashing the beach for free fucks the government up.
    This is why beach is off limits. Has nothing to go with spread of Covid-19. Monkeypaw strikes again, told you so. Read my last sentence. Pretty good with this prediction stuff.

    https://pattayaone.news/bang-sean-be...***-reopening/
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  13. #29861
    Quote Originally Posted by PuteNut  [View Original Post]
    Also it doesn't read "horny bastard" on my forehead, which may help
    This is so true. I always secure the best time and prettiest girls on the last few days of my holidays, when the tank is near empty, I'm not lusting over every brown body that sits next to me and the girls effectively have to earn the pleasure of me taking them home. 😁.

    G.

  14. #29860
    Quote Originally Posted by JimmyBoy99  [View Original Post]
    You're forgetting that very few (if any) other mongers have your charm and sexual attractiveness to Thai women, since you are the only one posting that he is getting ex go go girls (not Beach Road skanks) for 700 baht ST, as well as multiple freebie girls.
    It's not Mr E's good looks, wit and charm that is securing these deals. It's that he is there, now and dependable. I'm also guessing he treats the girls in a tolerable way so that they can provide positive references to their friends. Believe me positive or negative news spreads quickly.

    I'm no expert on LOS but in the Philippine boards I've often commented that there are three pricing levels: Fresh of the plane big spenders; Repeat visitors; and Resident spend thrifts. I know many girls who are slinging 3000 P 30 minute STs to just arrived Chinese and 500 P afternoons to resident Dive Masters when the power bill is due. Like Mr E, the girls know that they can call up these guys at short notice and walk away with pocket money or bills paid regardless of if it's high season or not or if their bar is full or empty.

    Cheers. G.

  15. #29859
    Quote Originally Posted by JimmyBoy99  [View Original Post]
    You're forgetting that very few (if any) other mongers have your charm and sexual attractiveness to Thai women, since you are the only one posting that he is getting ex go go girls for 700 baht ST, as well as multiple freebie girls. Granted you are in Pattaya, which may be cheaper than Bangkok, since the rate there seems to be 2-3000 baht for non-street girls (per Gargano and EihTooms), but even Monkey Paw, who is also in Pattaya, is paying double or triple what you are paying for them.
    It's funny, I seem to achieve pretty much the same price points as Mr E on my best days, even though I mostly lack charm (but I'm a half decent negotiator). Also it doesn't read "horny bastard" on my forehead, which may help. It's more or less like buying a car, nothing remarkable about it. Totally doable. Up to you.

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