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  1. #29849
    Say you pay 4,000 for an average Happy girl just because you like her. I say don't worry that you are inflating the market price for others, the frugal types. The market price is based on millions of transactions over time. If the avg girl thinks she is going to get 4,000 every time time she will prolly starve to death. The market doesn't support the 4 k.

    Do you really think a fella who gets 50% off regularly is keeping market prices down for all of us? NO. More like the quality just isn't there.

    You make the call. I say spend what you want.

  2. #29848
    Quote Originally Posted by DannyDuck  [View Original Post]
    I find it pretty much a waste of time to Bargain. The girls know what they are worth.

    Example. All girls will start at say 2,500ST. Those who regularly get guys to pay 2,500 will not give you 50% discount.
    So you know this because you have tried it many times and it never worked? Because the 47kg (I have a scale in my room and she got on it talking about how she gained 2kg) light skinned chick that is in my bed right now told me 2000 baht for short time yesterday. She told me she used to work at Peppermint Agogo. I told her 2000 baht, NEVER. I pay 500 baht for short time and 1000 baht for long time. We settled on 700 baht for short time. 65% discount? 14 hours later and she is still here. But I will write that report on what a big waste of time taking 2 seconds to bargain was later.

    P.S. They are renting pussy. It cost them nothing. They were born with it. Know what they are worth? LOL. Tell that to the Thai guy that has had his foot in her ass her whole life and see what he thinks about it. Sounds like you are playing the simp card.
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  3. #29847
    Quote Originally Posted by DannyDuck  [View Original Post]
    I find it pretty much a waste of time to Bargain. The girls know what they are worth.

    Example. All girls will start at say 2,500ST. Those who regularly get guys to pay 2,500 will not give you 50% discount. Now those fuglies sure will give you a huge discount. Its mostly a matter what a guy fancies. Those that like discounted girls like a girl who's face is not one of her strong points. Maybe a bit hefty, or too dark.

    About Indians. Hahahaha.

    I like LBM take on the economics of Pattaya. Personally for the majority of Pattaya girls I just don't see how they make money. In popular Nana Bar I see 10 girls barfined in 15 minutes many a time. In Pattaya one girl is barfined in one hour.
    I have never been much of a Price Policeman and I generally agree with you that girls who know they can get a customer for their asking price in 10 minutes are not likely to give you a 50% discount out of desperation.

    But I will say there is value in engaging in some form of the bargaining process even if you don't get a 50% discount, if you only get a 20% discount and even if you get no discount at all from their initial asking price.

    For one, it conveys the message to the girl that the money and what you get for it matters to you.

    And for another, you might agree to pay her asking price (if she will not budge from it) but only if you get this and that in the room, things that are really important to you but are not typically on the regular menu.

    That is bargaining/negotiating for better "assured" and agreed upon service rather than for a lower price. Often MUCH better service.

    I am a big fan of that form of bargaining, particularly when a 500 baht difference either way is relatively meaningless. Hell, 1,000 baht difference is often meaningless to me if it is the difference between getting exactly what I want from this exact girl I want or walking away to continue shopping and spending on drinks (if only for myself) and other shit along the way.

    IMO, there is real value in making the effort to bargain for at least those two reasons.

  4. #29846
    Quote Originally Posted by GettingFedUp  [View Original Post]
    The strange thing about common sense is its rarity, particularly in Thailand, especially in Pattaya!
    Yes, not only in Pattaya when it comes to Bacteria / Hygiene it isn't taught in the Thai government school, what little is can't be applied or re-enforced in general in a poor Thai home.

  5. #29845
    Quote Originally Posted by Bdonkadonk  [View Original Post]
    One thing is certain and that is the number of people dying from road accidents in Thailand during one year will be so much higher than those who will die from Covid-19 in Thailand this year. Most Thai people don't care about the danger of the careless traffic and take risks going with their motorbikes too fast and sometimes without even helmets. Some Thai people think that it is their destiny (buddhist belief) if they will die in a motorbike accident, and just don't seem to care, but when I was in Thailand recently I didn't hear one Thai person saying they didn't care about getting sick in Covid-19 and if dying, that it would be their destiny. Many were scared of getting sick or passing it on to their parents for example, the elder generation.
    LOL. Boy these mfs are funny as shit. Chick I picked up last night didn't want to put her helmet on and didn't want to take her mask off! She still had that mask on 5 minutes after we got to the room. I had to tell her to take it off. Bih had the nerve to tell me how important it is to be safe. You were not telling me that when I was handing you that helmet. I guess they pick their own poison. Already more people have died in drunk driving accidents since they opened alcohol back up on Sunday than have died from Covid in the past few months.

    https://thethaiger.com/coronavirus/c...n-road-carnage

  6. #29844
    Quote Originally Posted by Pimpampoumpipo  [View Original Post]
    ... Maybe there is more deaths from crossing 2nd road in Pattaya each year than deaths from covid-19 in all of Thailand.
    Could very well be so. Don't know how many died when crossing 2nd road last year. One thing is certain and that is the number of people dying from road accidents in Thailand during one year will be so much higher than those who will die from Covid-19 in Thailand this year. Most Thai people don't care about the danger of the careless traffic and take risks going with their motorbikes too fast and sometimes without even helmets. Some Thai people think that it is their destiny (buddhist belief) if they will die in a motorbike accident, and just don't seem to care, but when I was in Thailand recently I didn't hear one Thai person saying they didn't care about getting sick in Covid-19 and if dying, that it would be their destiny. Many were scared of getting sick or passing it on to their parents for example, the elder generation.

  7. #29843

    Thanks for change this

    Quote Originally Posted by YyzTravel  [View Original Post]
    Hey folks,

    Just got gone reading the past 100 pages here, and while the past 30 are pretty corona specific, I have found out a TON of information. I thought I would share this for everyone who might want to be considering a trip there when things open up. Just FYI. I have a trip booked in Jan, and before I get the haters telling me it's high season, it's the only time I could pull away that far for a week, so willing to brave the crowds. Also, my guess is that it won't nearly be as crowded next year given Corona, and I don't' want to have moist balls all day while I'm outside, I like to save that for when they are in a girls mouth.
    [INDENT]
    • Mr. Ent (and many many others) knows what the fuck is up. He is boots on the ground, knows his shit, and likes to fuck women. Period. This guy has been a solid contributor for a long time. Many others fall into this category as well, but he stands out for sure with his no-bullshit attitude. Bro, I'm really hoping to pick your brain about my wishlist closer to my trip. Will do a lot of planning but would be nice to buy you a beer for all the amazing work you put into this board
    • Hotels - people vary a lot. Some people like are adamant about AirBNB, some like hotels, some like The Hilton, some Queen Victoria. In my short answer, I'm going to stay someplace in between Soi6 and walking street. No idea where yet, but will likey grab something in Dec to ensure my deposit doesn't just melt away with so many things closing
    • Soapies - some people like them, some people don't. Maybe overpriced, may not be. Each person has their own budget - but the idea of a beautiful woman who is above average giving me a soapy sounds like a great fucking break in between blowjobs, short times and breaks for food
    • GoGos - some people hate these, and most people agree they are overpriced. To me, it's a cheaper version of an American strip club. I love the idea of buying 3-4 girls' drinks while they put their titties in my face and jerk me off there. This sounds fucking great if you have the money. If you don't, or just don't like to spend big - they stay away
    .
    Thanks for change the conversation about the virus and finally write something I'm interested to read.

    About the map, it'd be awesome if you can share it!

  8. #29842

    55 Dead in Thailand

    Quote Originally Posted by Pimpampoumpipo  [View Original Post]
    Thank you for your empathy for the deaths of covid-19 in France and their families.

    What I am saying is the lack of discernment of the measures taken by governments and their improvisation. Although I understand that the situation is unprecedented, that we have no knowledge about covid-19 and that visibility is fair from one day to the next.

    But rather than closing the beaches, leaving the entire population confined and sinking the economy, is it not better to confine populations with risk? People with comorbidity and the elderly (and often both)?

    I remind that to date there are 55 dead in Thailand because of covid-19.

    Maybe there is more deaths from crossing 2nd road in Pattaya each year than deaths from covid-19 in all of Thailand.
    That 55 dead number is ridiculously low. If you believe that, I have some oceanfront property in Dijon, France I can sell you at a cheap price. I personally know of 2 people in Buriram that died. One was a lifelong, dear friend in his early 60's with no known underlying medical issues. At the time of his death the governor of Buriram was reporting zero cases in a news article. Obvious lies as my friend's wife was also in the hospital with C19 as well (she survived).

    I agree we need to keep the at risk population at home and start to open businesses back up. We can't keep the World shut forever. I do have a concern about younger people going back to work and spreading it to their elders. And I miss my grandchildren.

  9. #29841
    Quote Originally Posted by Pimpampoumpipo  [View Original Post]
    Thank you for your empathy for the deaths of covid-19 in France and their families.

    What I am saying is the lack of discernment of the measures taken by governments and their improvisation. Although I understand that the situation is unprecedented, that we have no knowledge about covid-19 and that visibility is fair from one day to the next.

    But rather than closing the beaches, leaving the entire population confined and sinking the economy, is it not better to confine populations with risk? People with comorbidity and the elderly (and often both)?

    I remind that to date there are 55 dead in Thailand because of covid-19.

    Maybe there is more deaths from crossing 2nd road in Pattaya each year than deaths from covid-19 in all of Thailand.
    I don't want to get into a drawn out discussion of what governments should be doing, but look at the case of Sweden. They quarantined the elderly and other at risk people, and had no social distancing for others, to try to build herd immunity. Despite being a low pop density country with great healthcare and infrastructure, they haven't fared well compared to similar countries with stricter lockdowns.

  10. #29840

    Chance favors the informed

    Quote Originally Posted by YyzTravel  [View Original Post]
    Hey folks,

    Just got gone reading the past 100 pages here, and while the past 30 are pretty corona specific, I have found out a TON of information. I thought I would share this for everyone who might want to be considering a trip there when things open up. Just FYI. I have a trip booked in Jan, and before I get the haters telling me it's high season, it's the only time I could pull away that far for a week, so willing to brave the crowds. Also, my guess is that it won't nearly be as crowded next year given Corona, and I don't' want to have moist balls all day while I'm outside, I like to save that for when they are in a girls mouth.

    • Mr. Ent (and many many others) knows what the fuck is up. He is boots on the ground, knows his shit, and likes to fuck women. Period. This guy has been a solid contributor for a long time. Many others fall into this category as well, but he stands out for sure with his no-bullshit attitude. Bro, I'm really hoping to pick your brain about my wishlist closer to my trip. Will do a lot of planning but would be nice to buy you a beer for all the amazing work you put into this board
    • Hotels - people vary a lot. Some people like are adamant about AirBNB, some like hotels, some like The Hilton, some Queen Victoria. In my short answer, I'm going to stay someplace in between Soi6 and walking street. No idea where yet, but will likey grab something in Dec to ensure my deposit doesn't just melt away with so many things closing
    • Soapies - some people like them, some people don't. Maybe overpriced, may not be. Each person has their own budget - but the idea of a beautiful woman who is above average giving me a soapy sounds like a great fucking break in between blowjobs, short times and breaks for food
    • GoGos - some people hate these, and most people agree they are overpriced. To me, it's a cheaper version of an American strip club. I love the idea of buying 3-4 girls' drinks while they put their titties in my face and jerk me off there. This sounds fucking great if you have the money. If you don't, or just don't like to spend big - they stay away
    • SOI 6 - sounds like people like this, and then hate it as well. A mix of hotels, restaurants, bars, and places where you can get a girl if you are not just ugly, or an asshole. Grab a girl, sit down with a drink, chill, and get blown. If you like it, get their number and LT later, or just ST then. I mean, seriously, it sounds like you can grab lunch, sit around playing with titties, get a blow job, and all in you are less than $50 USD. Guys - I have paid more for a burger and beer in some places in the USA for that kind of money. This is the place I'm going to start my hunting each day that I don't have a online chick lined up
    • Walking Street - A lot of people are pissed off it got too commercial. Sorry guys, the world changes. Sounds like it could be a lot of fun, or a whole lot of rip off pending who you are, how you act, what money you have or don't have, and whom you are with or not with. Tons of variables, and likely a pretty solid hunting ground if you are willing to pay a bit more. Plus, seriously, there is a Hooters there. Gotta bang a hooters girl, in uniform, this is a bucket list item for me.
    • Beach Walkers - Most people agree that the quality here is a lot lower, but the price point is much lower as well. I have seen a few success stories, including that one where a guy could not have sex due to emergency surgery and he met a nice girl there who took care of him and gave him a two-hour blowjob... holy fuck, I need to get that girls number. But for the vast majority of people, they are telling me it's pretty slim pickings or gotta be a little desperate. You may find a gem, but gotta be willing to dig
    • TF/TM - sounds like the girls play the game here too. Have a healthy mix of girls on there, plus your enjoyment from the street, bars, etc. Catfishing seems high on this, but asking for recent pics, and telling girls to take a hike if they are not themselves seems a common way. Most guys have not said this, but meet the girls in a lobby or somewhere else, if you wait until they get to your room, you might lower your standards A LOT just out of convenience.
    • Money - some people are locals, some people are cheap-ass / broke visitors, some people are 2-week millionaires, and almost every level in between... almost all of them dislike the others for some reason or another. Here is my stance: Nice to know the going rates, don't overpay, but if you want to splurge and get 4 girls at a time for a nice group BBBJ and fuck, I'm not about to sit there and think "is this really worth the $150 to me, or should I try to pull it down to $130. Spend your money wisely, don't flaunt it, don't be an asshole, and if you play your cards right you can get great service for a great price.
    • Food - I went back literally 100 pages guys - and I saw THREE restaurants listed. Pattaya brewhouse, SandMan sports bar, and Hooters. Nice to see where our priorities are If anyone has any suggestions, more than
    • Maps - I found a couple of maps. But they were WAY outdated. I made one that has almost every bar, BJ bar, hotel, gogo bar, soapie, etc on it. I need to find a way to share it anonymously, but once I do, I will share it with you all. I have no idea how accurate it's going to be after coronavirus, but I will try my best to update it then.
    • White people - Most everyone on here thinks most punters are 50+ white people out of shape. Also, if you are white, expect the girls to always ask you for more money. Fuck that noise. I'm a lot younger, in shape, and want the girls to want me physically too. I know the primary rule, don't fall for a working girl and they will tell you anything. But you get WAY better service from my experience if they are attracted to your body and your wallet.
    • Be specific Tons of guys want to bareback, most want anal, most want CIM, etc. Tell a girl upfront, and don't wait to get surprised. This may be a bit easier While this is a bit candid, most people are saying here it's pretty par for the course. Hi, nice to meet you, I'm in Pattaya this week, want to meet up? (Sure!) - Great, I want BBBJ, and cum on your face with tongue out
    • Privacy -in short, don't expect it. There are cameras, of all types, everywhere, videobloggers, etc. If you are that concerned, wear glasses or a hat, and know you still may end up on one of the many YouTube videos of Pattaya. HeyYYZ, is that you getting blown in that video? Nope, wasn't me. (It was)

    That being said gents. I'm boots on the ground (fingers crossed nothing major changes) on January 22nd 2021. If anyone wants a hunting partner, or if you are local and I can buy you a beer and a BJ as a thank you for all the info, reach out!
    Good intel and ideas. Bang on and thank you for regurgitating the stuff that mattered before this pandemic.

  11. #29839
    Quote Originally Posted by GettingFedUp  [View Original Post]
    The families of the 25,812 who have thus far died in France of Covid-19 may have a different view. That's about the same as the population of Biarritz or Rochefort gone, snuffed it, dfunt, mort.
    Thank you for your empathy for the deaths of covid-19 in France and their families.

    What I am saying is the lack of discernment of the measures taken by governments and their improvisation. Although I understand that the situation is unprecedented, that we have no knowledge about covid-19 and that visibility is fair from one day to the next.

    But rather than closing the beaches, leaving the entire population confined and sinking the economy, is it not better to confine populations with risk? People with comorbidity and the elderly (and often both)?

    I remind that to date there are 55 dead in Thailand because of covid-19.

    Maybe there is more deaths from crossing 2nd road in Pattaya each year than deaths from covid-19 in all of Thailand.

  12. #29838

    Thank you

    Hey folks,

    Just got gone reading the past 100 pages here, and while the past 30 are pretty corona specific, I have found out a TON of information. I thought I would share this for everyone who might want to be considering a trip there when things open up. Just FYI. I have a trip booked in Jan, and before I get the haters telling me it's high season, it's the only time I could pull away that far for a week, so willing to brave the crowds. Also, my guess is that it won't nearly be as crowded next year given Corona, and I don't' want to have moist balls all day while I'm outside, I like to save that for when they are in a girls mouth.

    • Mr. Ent (and many many others) knows what the fuck is up. He is boots on the ground, knows his shit, and likes to fuck women. Period. This guy has been a solid contributor for a long time. Many others fall into this category as well, but he stands out for sure with his no-bullshit attitude. Bro, I'm really hoping to pick your brain about my wishlist closer to my trip. Will do a lot of planning but would be nice to buy you a beer for all the amazing work you put into this board
    • Hotels - people vary a lot. Some people like are adamant about AirBNB, some like hotels, some like The Hilton, some Queen Victoria. In my short answer, I'm going to stay someplace in between Soi6 and walking street. No idea where yet, but will likey grab something in Dec to ensure my deposit doesn't just melt away with so many things closing
    • Soapies - some people like them, some people don't. Maybe overpriced, may not be. Each person has their own budget - but the idea of a beautiful woman who is above average giving me a soapy sounds like a great fucking break in between blowjobs, short times and breaks for food
    • GoGos - some people hate these, and most people agree they are overpriced. To me, it's a cheaper version of an American strip club. I love the idea of buying 3-4 girls' drinks while they put their titties in my face and jerk me off there. This sounds fucking great if you have the money. If you don't, or just don't like to spend big - they stay away
    • SOI 6 - sounds like people like this, and then hate it as well. A mix of hotels, restaurants, bars, and places where you can get a girl if you are not just ugly, or an asshole. Grab a girl, sit down with a drink, chill, and get blown. If you like it, get their number and LT later, or just ST then. I mean, seriously, it sounds like you can grab lunch, sit around playing with titties, get a blow job, and all in you are less than $50 USD. Guys - I have paid more for a burger and beer in some places in the USA for that kind of money. This is the place I'm going to start my hunting each day that I don't have a online chick lined up
    • Walking Street - A lot of people are pissed off it got too commercial. Sorry guys, the world changes. Sounds like it could be a lot of fun, or a whole lot of rip off pending who you are, how you act, what money you have or don't have, and whom you are with or not with. Tons of variables, and likely a pretty solid hunting ground if you are willing to pay a bit more. Plus, seriously, there is a Hooters there. Gotta bang a hooters girl, in uniform, this is a bucket list item for me.
    • Beach Walkers - Most people agree that the quality here is a lot lower, but the price point is much lower as well. I have seen a few success stories, including that one where a guy could not have sex due to emergency surgery and he met a nice girl there who took care of him and gave him a two-hour blowjob... holy fuck, I need to get that girls number. But for the vast majority of people, they are telling me it's pretty slim pickings or gotta be a little desperate. You may find a gem, but gotta be willing to dig
    • TF/TM - sounds like the girls play the game here too. Have a healthy mix of girls on there, plus your enjoyment from the street, bars, etc. Catfishing seems high on this, but asking for recent pics, and telling girls to take a hike if they are not themselves seems a common way. Most guys have not said this, but meet the girls in a lobby or somewhere else, if you wait until they get to your room, you might lower your standards A LOT just out of convenience.
    • Money - some people are locals, some people are cheap-ass / broke visitors, some people are 2-week millionaires, and almost every level in between... almost all of them dislike the others for some reason or another. Here is my stance: Nice to know the going rates, don't overpay, but if you want to splurge and get 4 girls at a time for a nice group BBBJ and fuck, I'm not about to sit there and think "is this really worth the $150 to me, or should I try to pull it down to $130. Spend your money wisely, don't flaunt it, don't be an asshole, and if you play your cards right you can get great service for a great price.
    • Food - I went back literally 100 pages guys - and I saw THREE restaurants listed. Pattaya brewhouse, SandMan sports bar, and Hooters. Nice to see where our priorities are If anyone has any suggestions, more than
    • Maps - I found a couple of maps. But they were WAY outdated. I made one that has almost every bar, BJ bar, hotel, gogo bar, soapie, etc on it. I need to find a way to share it anonymously, but once I do, I will share it with you all. I have no idea how accurate it's going to be after coronavirus, but I will try my best to update it then.
    • White people - Most everyone on here thinks most punters are 50+ white people out of shape. Also, if you are white, expect the girls to always ask you for more money. Fuck that noise. I'm a lot younger, in shape, and want the girls to want me physically too. I know the primary rule, don't fall for a working girl and they will tell you anything. But you get WAY better service from my experience if they are attracted to your body and your wallet.
    • Be specific Tons of guys want to bareback, most want anal, most want CIM, etc. Tell a girl upfront, and don't wait to get surprised. This may be a bit easier While this is a bit candid, most people are saying here it's pretty par for the course. Hi, nice to meet you, I'm in Pattaya this week, want to meet up? (Sure!) - Great, I want BBBJ, and cum on your face with tongue out
    • Privacy -in short, don't expect it. There are cameras, of all types, everywhere, videobloggers, etc. If you are that concerned, wear glasses or a hat, and know you still may end up on one of the many YouTube videos of Pattaya. HeyYYZ, is that you getting blown in that video? Nope, wasn't me. (It was)

    That being said gents. I'm boots on the ground (fingers crossed nothing major changes) on January 22nd 2021. If anyone wants a hunting partner, or if you are local and I can buy you a beer and a BJ as a thank you for all the info, reach out!

  13. #29837
    Quote Originally Posted by GettingFedUp  [View Original Post]
    The families of the 25,812 who have thus far died in France of Covid-19 may have a different view. That's about the same as the population of Biarritz or Rochefort gone, snuffed it, dfunt, mort.
    We all don't want people to die. Got Milk?

    However you cannot shut down the world because old People are dying a bit more than usual.

  14. #29836
    Quote Originally Posted by MonkeyPaw  [View Original Post]
    I have no such luck. Call me "unlucky" Ducky. I've tried to to bargain before and got "no" as an answer. I've reached a point where guys on this site have sent in their Thai girl connections. Hey if you are stuck in your own home country and can't be here to help these girls eat or pay rent. Let Monkeypaw do the charity for you. Honestly, better me than another person on this board right? Lots of weirdos and psychos out there. I'm pretty transparent and you haven't heard a bad thing come out of these girls mouths about me, especially since I drink a lot of pineapple juice. Hopefully by know you understand the Monkeypaw standards to what I am willing to fuck. Nothing beats the gift of giving when you are able to help out a girl in need through these harsh and desperate times, even though you are thousands of miles away. All it takes is a quick message "My buddy is in Pattaya and since you need money, he needs hot girls. Click and send."

    P.S. Unless you don't believe in this sharing is caring stuff. I was sitting and eating mangosteen on Buakhao and can tell you now, the psychos are out hawking desperate chicks offering as low as 200-300 baht or some food and alcohol in exchange for bareback sex. Like I said, better me or them? Who knows when they will run into the next guy like the Irish Briit with the machete.
    I find it pretty much a waste of time to Bargain. The girls know what they are worth.

    Example. All girls will start at say 2,500ST. Those who regularly get guys to pay 2,500 will not give you 50% discount. Now those fuglies sure will give you a huge discount. Its mostly a matter what a guy fancies. Those that like discounted girls like a girl who's face is not one of her strong points. Maybe a bit hefty, or too dark.

    About Indians. Hahahaha.

    I like LBM take on the economics of Pattaya. Personally for the majority of Pattaya girls I just don't see how they make money. In popular Nana Bar I see 10 girls barfined in 15 minutes many a time. In Pattaya one girl is barfined in one hour.

  15. #29835

    Thai beauty standards

    Quote Originally Posted by Allover  [View Original Post]
    Absolutely true. I remember going to movies in Thailand and watching all the ads before the movie started. The ads only showed young, very light skinned Thais. Not a darker, Isaan complexion ever was shown on the screen.
    Quote Originally Posted by Downandup  [View Original Post]
    Thai's love the lighter skin, just look around at how much skin whitening creams and make-up are on sale.
    Quote Originally Posted by LookAtWorld  [View Original Post]
    No idea about local Thais but definitely in KL, where they are considered exotic / preferred. Just search for any KL escorts site and see Thai girls pictures, you will understand what I am saying.
    What I meant by "white" was not the color of skin. I meant more of the the "Eurasian" look. I get most Asian countries dig the white skin because it means that perhaps your lineage wasn't always poor rice farmers working in the hot sun. In the Philippines, "mestizas" are held in high regard. Not sure which is more preferred the Chinita mestiza (Chinese) or the Western mestiza. So that was what I was asking. Do the Thais prefer the Chinese mix look or the Western mix look as a higher standard. Go go bar girls will do what attracts their favorite customers with big bucks. I've seen them morph from Darkies all the way to the Korean or Japanese look. I go with whatever I'm attracted to, usually big eyes, slim, petite, long legs and hair, whatever that look is called. I wonder what the ranking would be especially looking at their beauty pageant winners history and movie stars. Maybe, they charge or want more to recover their surgical expenses is my guess.

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