Pattaya Reports

[Java Man]

But did you really dread flying across the world to look for mediocre looking girls?

Beauty is in the eye of the beholder. I'll take a 7-8 mediocre girl over a starfish 10, with GPS. A less than 10 will perform better, IME. That guy crying over 100 usd! US escorts are averaging 350 usd and up. 100 usd equals a Quick visit with women on the ole backpage forum, or 3-4 BJ's from a street hooker. LMAO.

[Java Man]

flying to South America is less stressful on the body and there are plenty of places with great gals that are not as expensive as Thailand. Argentina's economy is not so great now, so I am sure if your Spanish is good and you are adroit on the web.

Argentina, NO!! I'm sure the guys on the Argentina board will disagree with me. But! I was in Buenos Aires a few years ago, and stayed in the downtown area. Went to a lot of places. NOT once did I see a head turner. Got to any major city in the world and you'll find beautiful women. Not in Argentina, at least for me. I also don't recommend The Dominican Republic, unless you like starfishes.

[Banana Boi]

Which of those places is easiest to get around? Vientiane Laos or Phnom Penh, are they places you would recommend to someone who just wants an easy safe mongering stop for a week or two?

PP is very safe and very easy to get around since it is tiny. The main area is 6 very short blocks by 2 regular blocks where all the bars are. Pontoon and Le Cyrcee are also within walking distance but you may want to pay $2 for a tuk tuk ride instead. Darling Darling at the Naga World casino is also a short tuk tuk ride away. There are other bars nearby on the 170's streets.

Spending 2 weeks in PP for me was long. I prefer 3 or 4 night visits if I go. It's only a 1 hour AirAsia plane ride for under 100 USD from Bangkok.

[Horatio]

Which of those places is easiest to get around? Vientiane Laos or Phnom Penh, are they places you would recommend to someone who just wants an easy safe mongering stop for a week or two?

Thailand is by far not the cheapest place to monger based on girl prices and hotels. If you want cheaper options, consider Jakarta, Phnom Penh, Angeles City, and Laos.

[Nyezhov]

If you don't think Thailand is good for P4P, what would you suggest is worth it? What would make 100 usd worth it?

Save a little money up and go to an FKK. Or try to make it in the USA. 20 years ago, you came to Thailand to monger. After that, you figured out it was a cool place and you came back for other reasons. For those of us coming here for years and / or living here, we know how to play the game and mongering is just another thing on the list we can do.

But coming here because you are looking for cheap sex? Nope. Unless you are into Chicken Shacks, and you would need someone local to tell you where they are. The days of Third World sex prices in Thailand diedn 15 years ago plus. Now its just another country where you can get laid at a price.

[Healli]

In a nutshell, no it isn't worth it unless you have a specific fetish for Thai women. As Banana Boi stated, there are other places in Asia that are not as expensive and since you are in the US flying to South America is less stressful on the body and there are plenty of places with great gals that are not as expensive as Thailand. Argentina's economy is not so great now, so I am sure if your Spanish is good and you are adroit on the web, there will be some great gals that are way cheaper than BKK. I would not choose Thailand as a P4 P destination these days. IMHO the value is just not there. These gals are no more worth 100 USD short time then I am worth a million dollar football contract at my advanced age. To each his own, there are people that still think it is ok at these prices; I am not one of them.

If you don't think Thailand is good for P4P, what would you suggest is worth it? What would make 100 usd worth it?

[Goatscrot]

I see. I was just taken back that some sessions can go for like 100 us. I was looking through the BKK escort section and those are like oc MP rates. Is it worth the trip for someone that's not thrilled about being on a plane for so long?

In a nutshell, no it isn't worth it unless you have a specific fetish for Thai women. As Banana Boi stated, there are other places in Asia that are not as expensive and since you are in the US flying to South America is less stressful on the body and there are plenty of places with great gals that are not as expensive as Thailand. Argentina's economy is not so great now, so I am sure if your Spanish is good and you are adroit on the web, there will be some great gals that are way cheaper than BKK. I would not choose Thailand as a P4 P destination these days. IMHO the value is just not there. These gals are no more worth 100 USD short time then I am worth a million dollar football contract at my advanced age. To each his own, there are people that still think it is ok at these prices; I am not one of them.

[Banana Boi]

I see. I was just taken back that some sessions can go for like 100 us. I was looking through the BKK escort section and those are like oc MP rates. Is it worth the trip for someone that's not thrilled about being on a plane for so long?

None of us enjoy flying half way around the world unless we're in business class in a lay flat bed. I can advise you if you think 100 USD is a lot to pick up a top girl in Bangkok or Pattaya then you're likely better off not coming to Thailand if you're looking for top looking girls. Not all of us have the skill set that someone like Mr. E has to pick up top Pattaya girls for 700 baht. Expats like Mr. E and I also have time to our advantage as we can wait a girl's 10 day work rotation to end and see the girl on a day off, saving the barfine. I'm not saying that you would be unable to find a top looking girl in Thailand for 3000 baht but you're going to have to do some searching.

As you likely already read a top looking gogo girl in Pattaya from a bar like Palace or Sensations could run you 7000 baht ST including barfine and a few rounds of drinks. Add 2000 more if you want LT. Of course if you want run of the mill gogo girls you can still find them within your budget, on Soi 6, G clubs, massage joints, etc in Pattaya. But did you really dread flying across the world to look for mediocre looking girls?

Thailand is by far not the cheapest place to monger based on girl prices and hotels. If you want cheaper options, consider Jakarta, Phnom Penh, Angeles City, and Laos.

[ScottHall]

Those are gogo bar establishment prices. Pricing does that when there are middlemen to be paid. You can find the same girls on their time off or freelancers for much less.

I see. I was just taken back that some sessions can go for like 100 us. I was looking through the BKK escort section and those are like oc MP rates. Is it worth the trip for someone that's not thrilled about being on a plane for so long?

[Naked Gunz]

I wouldn't call that guy a fool at all. A Loser yes, but not a fool. He is still with that Thai girl years later and living in an apartment in the USA with her. He still has basically no money to his name and he never did pay any dowry. And the kicker is that Thai girl is still very good to him. He won all the way around.

He isn't actually. It's all for show. They are extremely happy and lovely couple right now. If you follow the 90 day fiance scene you would know. They are hilarious together and actually in love.

Yeah, your right, I don't follow bullshit "reality TV", cause I can't stomach it. I have never seen such stupid shit in my life. Has the world gone mad? Our heroes cured diseases, died for world peace, and changed society for good of man. Now am supposed to hang on to yet another dumbass that too stupid to know you don't buy Thai Kunt demanding a dowry for the family. Another example of people airing there laundry on social media and TV. I guess I'm the "old dude" in the room that won't change. I just want a good shag for not too much money and the world aint got to know about it. I just posted this dude for the obvious newb to beware for the Thai dollardigger. If their happy, its only for TV. The TV show prolly paid for all their shit, and once the cameras are gone, she will be gone to the first cute boy that make a move on her with her new green card.

[LittleBigMan]

Avenue Plaza as in Nana Plaza style set up?

Where will they get decent looking girls from to work at these places?

Pattaya is already overflowing with a lot of gogo bars that are lucky to have five people in them.

Or maybe some existing gogo bars will relocate??

Catering particularly to Indian clientele is a good idea as according to reports and TAT data they are the number one tourists who have the money.

I wish them luck.

It should be noted the new landlord group is Baku (Indian Billionaire) he basically made an offer to the Thai owners who built and run the Avenue for 9 years. The Thai owners had the money to built but since day one had problems filling and keeping tenants it must have been one big headache with Tenants constantly coming and going. Baku makes a great offer to run the Avenue now the Thai owners just sit back and collect the rent from Baku.

Baku being the new landlord couldn't care less directly whether bars or gogo find enough girls that is directly the renter problem although it would benefit him greatly that all business runs in the black. To fill the Avenue he is taking less rent rumor like half of what bars and gogos are paying to top that off he isn't asking for key money upfront to rent that is of major importance to anyone wanting to rent in Pattaya especially in areas like WS and LK.

I just had dinner last night at the new location for Tequila Reef in Welcome town. The TR use to be on Soi 7, for twenty plus years. I was told their lease was for 3 years each renewal just to have the privilege of leasing they had to lay out 3 million baht never return that doesn't include the rent each month. A beer bar I was told went for something like 50,000 baht each month and it also included key money. There is a hair salon between 7-8 closer to Beach Road, a shack pay 50,000 baht a month and another 10,000 baht for electricity and water. Regardless of the area 7-8 business closing the Thai landowner family has no intention of lowering rent in fact it seems as we say all the time when times are bad to raise the prices which is why TR decided to leave.

Whether Baku can make the Avenue successful I'm thankful that there are more options because what isn't going to change is places opening and closing. Many of the BB, Nightwish group? Even rumor the reason why the Happy group closed Peppermint a possible move to get in first. Rent is half with no key money! Smart move so far?

As for Baku, so call Gentlemens clubs opening all over the place same as the Nightwish group I've been to the majority of them once they are all the same not a lot of customers reason why not enough girls you lay on your back and spread your legs to make money and that requires customer they are daytime places mostly reason pretty much empty at night. Every time I go in for the first time they think I'm police.

Enjoy, Merry Christmas Happy New Year! You know what they say. Next year same shit different day!

[ItIsMe83]

What an idiot! Don't be this fool. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=foGtGPc27kk.

He being so badly played by a Thai, not even worth anybody's time for the world to see.

He isn't actually. It's all for show.

They are extremely happy and lovely couple right now. If you follow the 90 day fiance scene you would know. They are hilarious together and actually in love.

[Java Man]

How many of their bars have you gone to?

I think all of them. LOL Club Baku was good when it opened, but now has less girls. Baku Lounge had girls at the previous location. Went to the new location when after they moved in, and had 2 girls. Supposedly they got more now, I'll have to go by it again. The two Baku bars on Soi 6 are constantly dead. Only the New one was Hopping on it's opening day, but its been dead since then. Common problem: not enough girls. Out of all of them, I like Club Baku. I'll keep going back there at least for one beer.

[Smoothy]

What an idiot! Don't be this fool. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=foGtGPc27kk.

He being so badly played by a Thai, not even worth anybody's time for the world to see.

I wouldn't call that guy a fool at all. A Loser yes, but not a fool. He is still with that Thai girl years later and living in an apartment in the USA with her. He still has basically no money to his name and he never did pay any dowry. And the kicker is that Thai girl is still very good to him. He won all the way around.

[Bouvis]

Indian based Baku Group intends to turn Avenue Mall to a 3rd gogo bar area in Pattaya set to open March 31,2020.

Ha ha ha. Just noticed the opening date.