Pattaya Reports

[Blanquiceleste]

Thanks. I researched on Jakarta scene, its centered over few hotels, there are no street walkers or small shops.

I guess you have not researched enough then. Did you not follow Smoothy's posts on Taman Lawang?

[Sound7]

"I am sure if I hit WS I could have exhausted the budget. " ISG quote.

What is WS? Are certain skin color restriction in play atWS?

Cultural Code of Conduct:

Do people cut in line or walk in certain pattern and acts? Yes Are some tourist Asian group more aggressive than the local population or other non Asian groups? Tourist can be aggressive for various reasons including jet lag, depression, anxiety not familiar to the surrounding and adjustment issues. No 12 step program currently available to address the tourist issues. This forum and others provide some help in dealing with reality in general.

WS?

As a tourist I found Thai culture and places in Thailand.

Non confrontational. Sir, more massage.

Believe or not, I know about the Chinese even when I visited China in the late 80's 90's but I never really noticed or pay any attention maybe because I did pushing on my own. Although I'm Chinese made in the USA brand I come from the largest Chinese community so pushing was part of growing up in Chinatown I never complain if they were older that is how I was taught good or bad. On this particular bus line, it is free for all.

I have nothing against Indians only know one or two that I work with and they weren't really Indian born and raised in England but had some shortcomings may be from their old school parents?

My reference with them here is really based on what I read here and what I've seen around town for a number of years even before they got here in the large numbers.

[TjMaster]

I looked at some of the old reports from 2006 etc and I notice that the girls didn't look that good and neither was the prices that much cheaper it was something like 1500ST and whilst that may not be possible today 2000ST in Bangkok (Pattaya 500 vs 800/1000) is still very possible. So I can't really agree that the past was so much better, the biggest change for me is that 2006 I thought Thailand was the best, now I know there are better places if comparing bare bone basics but nevertheless Thailand still has certain attractions that makes it worth the effort. The biggest change for me is that 2006 etc white men were treated as gods, now they are relegated to second place and I'm sure that is what irks the old old days men more than the prices and looks of the girls.

I would have to agree with you on 2006! I've been in the game for a few decades and there was something magical about Thailand, especially Pattaya, in 2006. Thailand is still magical today. Thai women (that aren't too mercenary) are the sweetest on earth. No destination can really compare. Pattaya has changed my views forever.

[Shamester]

No alcohol is served on Sunday except on the beach.

[Paolo99]

Moved on to Tantra. Much different vibe. Good talent. Topless parade. Found #324 to be takeout quality. Speaks good English. Nice rack. Tattooed up from working at Phuket. Short time is 2 hours. The deal breaker was only 2 shots vs 3 shots.

I don't get it.

Are you saying that she was OK for 2 shots during the ST while you wanted 3 shots instead?

Normally ST from these gogo girls is 1 shot only, so you were already lucky if she accepted 2 shots. 3 shots in 1ST I don't think you will get it in a WS gogo.

Recently I've been played by a girl in a non popular gogo on WS for a ST. I wanted to barfine her but requested 2 shots. She said it was already too late but she would gladly do it the next day if I come earlier.

The next day was completely another story and I didn't barfined her at all.

[Ass Addict]

After banging a Beach Rd FL, I asked her whether she goes with Indian men. No, she said, because they smell too much. Except Indian men from England and America are okay. They don't smell.

Apparently the issue is that after going with these smelly Indian guys LT, the chicks have to go to the beauty parlour the next day to get the smell out of their hair.

Man, you're being obsessed by these guys. Stop talking with these BR girls. Just bang them and get rid of them. Don't try to understand their lives or whatever they do, it's not good for you.

[MutantChicken]

Thanks. I researched on Jakarta scene, its centered over few hotels, there are no street walkers or small shops.

What your researched is what is accessed by western men, I can assure you there plenty of streetwalkers / small shops there are places label panti panjit which is "massage" but offers FS.

[Jicks]

Thanks. I researched on Jakarta scene, its centered over few hotels, there are no street walkers or small shops.

Jakarta and Phnom Penh. Jakarta if you like the point and shoot brothel scene and PP if you like the small bar scene. 25-30 USD per hour in Jakarta. 40-50 USD per night in PP. Jakarta has tons of girls. PP not so much. imo looks of the Jakarta girls would blow away Soi 6 girls. PP would be slightly better than Soi 6 looks.

[Franga]

After banging a Beach Rd FL, I asked her whether she goes with Indian men. No, she said, because they smell too much. Except Indian men from England and America are okay. They don't smell.

Apparently the issue is that after going with these smelly Indian guys LT, the chicks have to go to the beauty parlour the next day to get the smell out of their hair.

[Shamester]

On Friday, started at soi 6. Found a winner at seduction. Shall do a 2 hour short time before departure. Mixed Thai that speaks good English.

My original favorite was boxed in by a farang before the club opened. Later discovered he was only buying her drinks. She looked terrified.

Moved on to walking street. Expected to bar fine a chica from Palace. Much different lineup. Hot young thin chicas. Impressive lineup. My chica was no where to be found. She was 31 and spoke good English. Good enough to bar fine.

The problem with Palace is the girls don't speak English. Plus many aren't seeking bar fines. Only eye candy.

Moved on to Tantra. Much different vibe. Good talent. Topless parade. Found #324 to be takeout quality. Speaks good English. Nice rack. Tattooed up from working at Phuket. Short time is 2 hours. The deal breaker was only 2 shots vs 3 shots. Kept saying it was club rules. LOL.

Back to soi 6. Found my original fav available. Bar fined for long time. Shared a drink at a walking street bar. Walked back to my hotel.

Complete GFE. 2 shots in the evening. 2 shots on the morning. During the last shot my left look massively cramped up. Needed to stop. It was painful.

Obtained a Thai massage to remedy. Worked. Returned to soi 6. Sessioned with one of my favs at Heroes. Good GFE session. Unfortunately she was extra fiesty. Discovered she has a dilemma about visiting her BF in Sweden. Resting tonight.

[Java Man]

So October 13th, 14th and 23rd are public holidays. Does that mean that all bars, notably soi 6 bars, will be closed on those days?

They'll close at Midnight Sunday, (Sat night,) for 24 hrs: bars, and discos. Some places will open off the grid, look for people drinking from coffee cups or plastic cups. The massage places Should be open. It's a Dry day, you can't buy liquor. At the 7-11's & family mart's too.

[Ed Setra]

By night bazaar, I am referring to the massive complex of bars near the Made in Thailand market going east.

Identify the bars? Fubar, Ben's Bar, Matador etc... Though I admit given that they seem to change every year, I take little note of the names often.

Got it, thanks.

[Lanthano]

Nice report Lanthano. Where is the Night Bazaar? Is that Soi Made in Thailand or Treetown area? Can you identify any of the bars there?

Thanks.

Hi, thank you. Sorry, I tend to use my own terms as I don't hang around the Pattaya thread enough. By night bazaar, I am referring to the massive complex of bars near the Made in Thailand market going east.

Identify the bars? Fubar, Ben's Bar, Matador etc... Though I admit given that they seem to change every year, I take little note of the names often.

[Ed Setra]

After spending all of last year in Frankfurt in the RLDs and FKK clubs, I finally needed to get out and remind myself that the rest of the world is still there. Easily arranged a direct flight to Suvarnabhumi with Lufthansa (10.5 hours for 570 euro), 130 baht bus ticket and I was back in Pattaya for my 3rd trip.
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Nice report Lanthano. Where is the Night Bazaar? Is that Soi Made in Thailand or Treetown area? Can you identify any of the bars there?

Thanks.

[Lanthano]

After spending all of last year in Frankfurt in the RLDs and FKK clubs, I finally needed to get out and remind myself that the rest of the world is still there. Easily arranged a direct flight to Suvarnabhumi with Lufthansa (10.5 hours for 570 euro), 130 baht bus ticket and I was back in Pattaya for my 3rd trip.

In short Pattaya is still great but significantly diminished compared to my last visit in 2017.

The nightlife and easy mongering is unbeatable here. However clearly it has become quieter as there are less people here compared to my trip two years ago. (It's low season and raining often) It's clear why: strong baht and slightly increasing prices in baht. At the time of writing: 33.5 baht to the euro.

The majority of the farang I met in bars on many a day seemed to be expats rather than tourists. That isn't to say they're not around, but they seemed to mostly be the type that come 3 times a year anyway.

Bars on walking street overwhelmingly Asians to the point that some seemed to cater to them exclusively. Except on certain busy weekend nights. Usual mainstake gogos still there Peppermint, Baccara, Wildcats, Windmill, Happy, Living Dolls.

Pinup is there which I am note sure whether it is new, which has lineups of 40 girls dancing at any given time. Needless to say, I never barfine at gogos anyway.

Soy Phukao gogos were very good (except Ninja a gogo).

I spent most of my time in the LK Metro / Soy Phukao area and Night Bazaar, often going around in a perfect circle to visit everywhere.

Prices:

Prices have gone up generally. Examples to put things into perspective: barfine girl from beer bar back in 2017 for 1500, I come back to the exact same bar and same girl and she won't go below 2000. (However, 1500 girls are still around just the average price seems to have risen).

Another bar on soi 7, girl I was speaking to has the gall to ask for 3000. And the worst shock of all: Insomnia / I-bar where the girls all one night seemed to demand 3000.

No wonder that Pattaya on the whole seems much quieter.

With the notable exceptions, gogos on walking street seem to open and close frequently. However unlike my last trip, there did not seem to be a shortage of acceptable girls in the bars.

Prices update:

Beer bars:

LDs: 120-130 baht.

Barfines: 300-500.

Girl: 1500-2000 LT.

Gogos on walking street:

LDs: 175-200 baht.

Barfines: 1000-1500 baht.

Girl: 3000-4000 upwards LT.

Gogos on soy phukhao / LK Metro:

LDs: 160-175.

Barfines: 800-1500.

Girl: 2000-3000 upwards LT.

Gentlemen's Clubs (similar prices on soy 6):

Blowjob for 30 minutes (if offered) : 500 + 300 BF=800 beht.

Short time: 1000-1300 + 300 BF= 1300-1600.

What I did differently this time:

-gentlemen clubs: good but not my thing. Soy bonkoot has a number. My preferred one was Babylon. The advantage of these clubs is that they open early, are air conditioned, can be quite entertaining, offer daytime short time action. But given that I have the FKKs at home, apart from the much better service level from the girls, nothing that special to me. No entry fee.

I only just found Tahitian Queen on beach road (open since 1978), which is also open during the daytime. Probably more a bar than a gentleman's club but pretty close.

-tinder / thaifriendly / other apps: this really seems to be the future here. Plenty of girls on there looking for customers, little hassle, you can order out from the comfort of your hotel room, no running around bars with lady drinks and barfines. I would add that you have absolute stunners on there. Many people coming here used them without any issues that I spoke to during my trip. Definitely cost-effective.

My experiences:

-Aleks (Lek): sort of working in bar but not really, but is: slim, in night bazaar. First night, drank together till 4 am, she came back with me, 1000 paid in the morning. Exchanged numbers.

-Tata on tinder late 20's: after an unsuccessful all-nighter, got her to join me from 10 am to 5 pm same day, came to my hotel, good service, 1500 baht.

-Girl from bar in beer garden in soi 13/2 : dark and slender, smiley, good service other than she wasn't sure whether her period was coming on or not, changed little however (multiple pops) 2000 baht + 300 BF.

-Soi 13/2: another slim 25 year old cute girl from bar, good experience 1500 + 300 BF.

-Insomnia girl: 1500 early morning, very good.

-Girl from Babylon: Short Time 1300 together + lady drink, really good service, stayed with me until I left the club.

-Girl from bar at Night bazaar: skinny, short cheeky girl, good at pool 1500 + 400 BF.

-Girl from bar in small beer garden on soi 10 : Great, tall and slightly larger build 1500 + 300 BF.

-Girl from bar in back part of Night bazaar: short and dark and not great, left earlier than agreed 1500 +300 BF.

-Pisticha: Freelancer on tinder for 2000 baht last night. After 3 weeks in Pattaya I was slightly destroyed for my last night. Had spoken to her on tinder over those weeks, she met finally me at my hotel and boy was she absolutely gorgeous, tall, slim, pretty, just as in her photos. Unsuccessful first round at night, banged her in the early morning once the beer and fatigue had cleared.

My recommendation: tinder and apps are now solid alternatives to the beer bars and discos in Pattaya. Used them twice and rate of success was about equal. Expect to pay 1500-3000 for LT which is competitive imo with LT at a beer bar, including barfine and first lady drink.

My general personal notes :

3 weeks in Pattaya may not be too much for other people, but it was for me. 2 weeks is well enough.

More Indians and Chinese in Pattaya for sure, but honestly, I never had any trouble with them and they definitely are no competition at the venues I went to. Indians seemed to avoid peer bars largely, are not let into the gogo bars (heard stories of some gogos demanding 1000 baht cover charge for entry), and stick with either street walkers or the soapies. (Every soapie I popped into was filled with Indians).

Lady drinks in gogos are a ripoff and never worth it. Slurp slurp, gone, forgotten, next victim.

Candyshop syndrome is difficult to avoid if you are like me, picky about the girl and you only do long time. A lot of the girl are just passive and aloof and making a connection is difficult if you're not always approaching yourself. (usually they do open up once you make the step and buy a lady drink). I only do slim girls, not too old with at least a minimum of good attitude. However I admit that that could make me miss out on great service sometimes and in the bars, I just risked hopping and getting more and more drunk and going home alone or to Insomnia at 4 am.

Short time with the price changes, is less worth it if you live in Germany. Yes, it's longer here but I for the 20 euro difference, I won't bother in future unless I'm really strapped for time.

Barfine or do not by midnight or 1 am by the latest, or else you run the risk of not finding anything suitable.

Insomnia failed this time for me I am afraid. The girls asking and not budging from 3000 unless you spend more hours there and keep haggling just sucks unless you really like partying at insomnia until the early morning.

I would estimate even if you are as frugal as I am, to be spending at least 3000 baht each night. Money flows like water here in Pattaya. 70 baht there, 150 baht there, 300 baht there...