Pattaya Reports

[Syzygies]

Why does everything end up being about the 1990's?

Its simple. One's early experiences are formative. Guys don't like it when the whole ballgame changes. We keep looking for things similar to the old days. Many posters particularly focus on the large inflation for price of bar girls, with many causes I guess. Bargirls were once one of the cheapest ways to monger and get a girl for the whole night.

Other guys will tell me the 70's and 80's were far better than the 90's. Ha ha. I was here is 83 briefly but restricted with a wife in tow. So I could not really appreciate it, other than I managed to find out how exciting a nude Thai girl could be, but could not communicate at all.

Guys that grew up in the Rock music era, will prefer Rock music forever.

Some aspects of change are really irritating to some of us, however we accept it and move on, still looking for girls that are like the old days' girls. A hell of a lot of fun.

Some of us move from having two or 3 fuck sessions per day (in our more crazy early days), to having quality girls but far less often. I still aim for 2 or 3 girls if visit an FKK in Europe, but visit much less often. In Thailand there is no rush. If we don't find a great girl, we can go without. There is nothing wrong with endless repeats of a set of trusted good performing hot girls (we can look forward to getting the same as what we got before).

We can change. Long ago I did a lot of Soapy sessions (no Oilies), but rarely do Soapies any more. It must have changed too much for me, or just not convenient. Some good Soapy venues closed or declined too much. Everything was great before prime minister Thaksin Shinawatra but that is long ago. In his era, many girls were cleaned out for one reason or another, not being a native Thai citizen, was just one reason. Girls had to have valid ID showing a suitable age too. The bad economy times hurt the business badly too.

When I was 35 I was very much a preferred customer I think (even in the Thermae ha ha). I recognise that this is not the case anymore. More like a difficult customer now. We have to face facts. Live has things other than fucking and playing up with young girls.

If one had a time machine, I think old guys would much prefer to travel to the past rather then the future. The Future might be horrible. Ha ha. See German TV Series "Dark" re time travel (it is suspenseful) but future looked not so nice. We know very well what the past was like.

I am lucky my Mrs has a hot body and still very appealing to me sexually, and I get more than I used to. So I tend to need less mongering. In the 90's, she was just a skinny kid. I could wish I met her a few years earlier, perhaps in 1999 when she was just 20. Is it a rare thing, to not get bored with sex with the Mrs (as yet) after 14 years?

[XXL]

In many respects, things truly were better in the '90's. Even more so in the '80's. For the most part, AIDS didn't exist...

Wrong, AIDS was a deadly untreatable disease in the 90's. Now no longer.

[Rob Jones]

I think you guys would hate AC! There, an LD buys you the right to interview a girl to check if she's on her period. That's about it. No fondling or DFK ever!!

I have never been to the Philippines, that is why I put my comment in the Pattaya Reports.

[Ebauche]

Why does everything end up being about the 1990's?

I have a saying in real life. If a person talks about what they did in the 80's and 90's it means they have no life / aren't getting enough now. They're living in the past. Hate to guess that's the case for guys who continuously talk about the 90's on ISG too.

In many respects, things truly were better in the '90's. Even more so in the '80's. For the most part, AIDS didn't exist. We didn't have the Identity Politics bullshit. We'the won the Cold War, but the crazies in smaller countries and extremist organizations hadn't yet become a reality. One can have a very satisfying present yet yearn for what has passed.

[Member #4698]

I think you guys would hate AC!

But, love Manila! Burgos Bars are very hands on and almost everything else too. I have had up to 3 girls blowing me at the same time in more than one Burgos bar and that was just for the audition.

[Engine Driver]

I agree 100%. I want a return on my investment so I expect kissing, mutual fondling and the perception that if I pull the trigger on a bar fine that I will be fucked senseless.

I think you guys would hate AC! There, an LD buys you the right to interview a girl to check if she's on her period. That's about it. No fondling or DFK ever!!

[Rob Jones]

For the life of me I still don't understand the beer bar concept where a guy buys a girl a drink and she remains behind the bar. Why would a guy buy a girl a drink with no DFK and mutual groping?

I agree 100%. I want a return on my investment so I expect kissing, mutual fondling and the perception that if I pull the trigger on a bar fine that I will be fucked senseless.

[Banana Boi]

Why does everything end up being about the 1990's?

I have a saying in real life. If a person talks about what they did in the 80's and 90's it means they have no life / aren't getting enough now. They're living in the past. Hate to guess that's the case for guys who continuously talk about the 90's on ISG too.

[Bouvis]

I first went to Pat Pong in the early 90's and was just amazed. As a young lad, I had been to the Kings Cross strip shows in my country with full on-stage fucking action, but the sleaziness of Pat Pong was on another level. Me and a mate went to the usual ping pong ball, cigarette, razor blade and banana shows. When the young lady shot out the banana from her pussy, me mate just picked it up and ate it as if that was a perfectly normal thing to do. As a young man on his first overseas mongering tour, I was just stunned.

I think I was in the bar that night as I vividly recall a punter eating a banana after it had been violently catapulted across the room. My first real expose to Sleazy fun was also in Patpong. Climbing the stairs to The Kangaroo Club I had no idea what was in store for me. The first thing I saw on that steamy rain soaked day when I walked through the door was a fellow monger sitting on a bar stool with his white jeans down around his ankles and a true professional getting to work on him. From memory this was before lunchtime. Every girl in that tiny bar was available for pipe cleaning services and all had smiles on their faces. You could get the service whilst sitting at the bar, they had small doors cut out at the front of the bar or you could go to some side room and have a curtain drawn. I sat at the bar and had a few beers whilst getting sucked off long and slow whilst having a conversation with an American about The Super Bowl as he was reading from the newspaper sports section whilst have his tube snake charmed. This bar was dirty, filthy, stinking, beautiful. I miss those times.

[Engine Driver]

In early 90's, in Pat Pong, was not uncommon for a girl to sit next to you and put your hand straight inside her panties, and invite a finger to go in deep. This was like bait to catch a fish. There was no total nudity in those days except in Pat Pong shows. This was quite a shock to a moderately innocent monger, never experiencing this behaviour before. Also had a couple of bars where guy would be swamped by multiple girls to start immediate blowjob. Was quite dark in there and eyes still adjusting to the dim light if coming in from outside light. There was no charge for the BJ, you just had to buy the girls drinks (maybe 4 or 5 girls all contributing) which were cheap in those days. Naturally full groping was included. Shame the girls got less and less raunchy over the years in Bangkok.

Phat Pong was a common lunchtime destination for multi girl BBBJ with groping and maybe even going to a fuck in the back room. Girls seemed to be shy about actual fucking. Maybe due to Thai boys hanging around the bar too. The old days were extra fun. Seems like the most raunchy sessions can still be had, but became much more costly.

I first went to Pat Pong in the early 90's and was just amazed. As a young lad, I had been to the Kings Cross strip shows in my country with full on-stage fucking action, but the sleaziness of Pat Pong was on another level. Me and a mate went to the usual ping pong ball, cigarette, razor blade and banana shows. When the young lady shot out the banana from her pussy, me mate just picked it up and ate it as if that was a perfectly normal thing to do. As a young man on his first overseas mongering tour, I was just stunned.

[Franciscass]

No worries, I don't think your trying to argue. I don't mind a bit of discourse.

I get it Linylo, a little toing and froing without personalizing differences can be helpful to both parties.

[Syzygies]

For the life of me I still don't understand the beer bar concept where a guy buys a girl a drink and she remains behind the bar. Why would a guy buy a girl a drink with no DFK and mutual groping?

Ha ha. Just to be friendly? Perhaps to obtain useful gossip and information. The worst of all is to buy mamasan a drink, since she will keep annoyingly returning.

However not nearly enough DFK and mutual groping going on in Bangkok in return for drinks, in some bars. It is a useful interview technique too. Overly timid girls are not that useful on the bed.

Some girls seem to need some alcohol too loosen their morals a lot. Met the odd prim and proper one that alcohol stuffed up, because she became far too slutty for my taste.

In early 90's, in Pat Pong, was not uncommon for a girl to sit next to you and put your hand straight inside her panties, and invite a finger to go in deep. This was like bait to catch a fish. There was no total nudity in those days except in Pat Pong shows. This was quite a shock to a moderately innocent monger, never experiencing this behaviour before. Also had a couple of bars where guy would be swamped by multiple girls to start immediate blowjob. Was quite dark in there and eyes still adjusting to the dim light if coming in from outside light. There was no charge for the BJ, you just had to buy the girls drinks (maybe 4 or 5 girls all contributing) which were cheap in those days. Naturally full groping was included. Shame the girls got less and less raunchy over the years in Bangkok.

Phat Pong was a common lunchtime destination for multi girl BBBJ with groping and maybe even going to a fuck in the back room. Girls seemed to be shy about actual fucking. Maybe due to Thai boys hanging around the bar too. The old days were extra fun. Seems like the most raunchy sessions can still be had, but became much more costly.

[Goferring]

What info were you looking for? Cheap beer, cheap girls. Just make sure age and looks aren't high in your criteria for girl selection. Sure there are exceptions but they are few and far between.

For the life of me I still don't understand the beer bar concept where a guy buys a girl a drink and she remains behind the bar. Why would a guy buy a girl a drink with no DFK and mutual groping?

Are the beer bars getting much business? Last time I was in town, admittedly it was low season, the beer bars were deserted of girls and customers.

It must be a failing business model as the previous visit maybe 10 years ago there were many more bars with huge complexes along Beach Road holding litterally thousands of girls. I didn't see any of that earlier this year.

Cheers. G.

[Banana Boi]

I don't see reviews on Pattaya beer bars, I see it's more popular here than in Bangkok. Can anyone add something on Pattaya beer bar.

What info were you looking for? Cheap beer, cheap girls. Just make sure age and looks aren't high in your criteria for girl selection. Sure there are exceptions but they are few and far between.

For the life of me I still don't understand the beer bar concept where a guy buys a girl a drink and she remains behind the bar. Why would a guy buy a girl a drink with no DFK and mutual groping?

[Banana Boi]

Palace had by far the most amazing gals in Pattaya. Have to say, best collection of GoGo gals I've seen in my 20 years in Thailand. Place was packed and we were the only two western guys in the place. Lots of very young Asian punters. Makes me happy to see young guys out in the P4 P scene. Shame that most young western guys are too PC, scared, and whipped to be out whoring.

Young Farang for some unknown reason believe the girls at Sapphire are prettier than the Palace and Pin Up girls so they all hang out at Sapphire.

I haven't seen a new pretty girl on soi 6 in over a year!