Pattaya Reports

[IMembr]

It's going to require something more in terms of effort, luck of the draw physically, ethnically, whatever in order to get that with some consistency.

This sums it up except money has to be added to that quote. Game does not matter as much either. Having "game" in the P4P world is laughable. Go to a club in Los Angeles and pick up an 8+ for free, and you have game. Then again, even a squirrel finds a nut once in a while.

Numbers is a universal language, and money is the driving motivation for these girls, 8+ or not.

[Blanquiceleste]

But I'm sure he is missed by many as he certainly contributed significant information to the board and wasn't just a commenter.

Ouch! You just made a few enemies here my friend. Personally, I agree with everything you say. Some folks just can't handle the idea that someone else is having more fun or is more capable or is getting laid more or whatever. 5555.

[EihTooms]

I have never understood courting or kowtowing to a chick you have to pay. Hell, I don't even do it with the chicks I don't have to pay. I have always said just to walk up to them and say lets go. If she is trying to earn something then she will go. If she is not then just move on to the next one. A hooker is a hooker, no matter if she is a 2 or a 10. In any other business isn't the one spending the money the one that os supposed to be courted? A customer courting the seller is ass backwards.

If that were even remotely true in the real world, we would read here and see with our own eyes in the red light districts nothing but punters with 8's, 9's and 10's walking to hotels and getting everything they want, no unpleasant surprses. And for merely sayng "Let's go" and payng no more than the going rate and often less.

That same story would be reported here over and over again with mind-numbing repetition. Otherwise, why would anyone bother picking up a dumpy older lady with a belly and a dropped ass?

But it isn't what we all can easily observe in the real world or read here.

[Goferring]

But would you say it is something they are doing or not doing on purpose? If so, then what?

Some people just can not fuck......

I have never had a chick in Thailand that I would say was doing something negative on purpose.....

I just think its human nature. Stunners simply don't have to put in as much / any effort to win a lot of business. There is no need for them to waste their energy. I certainly think that those that rely on repeat busines vs their looks attracting new customers every night do go the extra mile to ensure guys do come back.

Some girls just cannot fuck me the way I like it. They may fuck other guys to their satisfaction.

I'm not an expert on Thailand. However, I have had girls sabotage a session simply so she can do a runner and get back to the bar and other potential customers. This can be through poor performance or inciting a disagreement so I throw her out.

Of course, the above does not mean that pretty girls cannot be great lays. Several recent posts have shown lookers who kept their monger VERY happy.

[Goferring]

After a late sleep in and brunch I went to grab a massage along 2nd Road. My bad back was still playing up after the flight so I took some previous board advice and went with one of the older women. A great massage evened out the wrinkles. Lots of manual rimming and sack rubbing while I was face down and a full prostate massage to completion when I was face up. I was surprised to find there was no mention of price beforehand so I just left her a 500B tip when leaving. Flame me if I over paid.

I relaxed back in he room in the afternoon just to escape the heat and me sweating up a storm again. About 10 pm I walked around the corner to LK Metro. Billabong was full of people so I grabbed a spot near the corner. Unfortunately there was not too much eye candy so I only stayed for one drink. Most of the ladies were probably once attractive but were now well past 30. I was to later find that this was the case with most of the beer bars in the area with only 1 or 2 attractive girls in the bar and the rest older ladies. The gogos were another matter with lots of cute girls up on stage and milling around. Unlike the Philippines most were doing their best to put on a show rather than doing the bored stoner shuffle around a chrome pole. Paradise and Destiny had the best girls and atmosphere. Quotes were 1500+ tips of about 2500. Lots of girls fitted my preference of long and lean.

From KL Metro it was a decent walk to Walking Street. Still hot, I was seriously reconsidering my preference for walking every where. What a stupid idea. Not to mention that once the seal had broken, I was stopping for a pi$$ every 10 seconds.

The first couple of bars in WS were a serious disappointment with girls less attractive than LK, much more assertive drink requests and attitude when these were not immediately forthcoming. Most disappointing was that any decent set of tits were obvious bolt ons and not good ones at that. I've no idea of prices as I wasnt enjoying the vibe nor the girls' company.

Moving south, the atmosphere got a lot better, the girls were more fun and the gogos were worthy of stopping for a couple of drinks rather than one and done. Mid way down were the Russian bars then at the very end the Indian. I didn't hit any of the clubs / discos as I'm too old for that $hit. 😁

All up I preferred LKM (the gogos, not the beer bars) with it's better atmosphere and selection of pretty girls. WS obviously had the better lookers and partial / full nudity but their attitude and the over all vibe wasnt doing it for me on that night.

Enjoy. G.

[Mr Enternational]

Because the 7+ is far more likely to provide an exceptional experience than the girl who does not need to attract customers.

Sadly, I've had it proven many times that girls that are flooded with customers can give lack luster sessions where as girls that are keen for repeat business will try to give you a reason to come back.

But would you say it is something they are doing or not doing on purpose? If so, then what?

Some people just can not fuck. I have used a chick that I mess with in the Dominican Republic as an example before. She is a free chick that works at the bank. No problem with her not wanting to fuck. She likes to do it. But she is HORRIBLE at it. She always keeps her body stiff and locks her knees, even when she is on top. I have tried teaching her but to no avail.

I have never had a chick in Thailand that I would say was doing something negative on purpose. Most of the chicks that I mess with are freelance. Every now and then I will catch a chick that is freelancing and later find out they work at a gogo bar and it happened to be their day off. I can not recall any of them being anything to write home about in the fucking department. And as I said before, it was not because of something they were doing on purpose to ruin the session.

[Horatio]

Out of curiosity, on a scale of 1 to 10 how low will you go. And how would you score the median you do?

For me if 2 or below is ugly, and 5 or 6 is average. I have been with a 3 or 4. She was in her 40's, kind of saggy, but really sweet and wanted to please. I would say my median average is with a 6. I like a little older, in their low 30's, age wise. I don't think I have ever been with what people here would say is a 9. Though a few solid 8's, at least in my opinion.

[Goferring]

Why would a guy select an average looking girl when there's a prettier one at another bar?

Because the 7+ is far more likely to provide an exceptional experience than the girl who does not need to attract customers.

Sadly, I've had it proven many times that girls that are flooded with customers can give lack luster sessions where as girls that are keen for repeat business will try to give you a reason to come back. I routinely avoid "the" girl in a bar. Not because I'm intimidated by looks but because I'm pretty sure other, still pretty but not stunning, girls are more likely to give me a great session. #.

Also, some guys are more attracted to the more homely girls or those closer to their own age. Plenty of older guys exclusively select 30+ girls.

We don't all have the same taste in girls anyways. One person's 8 may be another person's 5. Some guy may have barfined a girl who they thought was an 8 but after a poor session rates her a 6 for looks.

Totally correct. Who am I to judge the attractiveness of of another guy's girl? He is free to spend his money on whom ever he wishes.

#either that or subconsciously I know that they wouldn't touch me with a barge pole. 😎.

Enjoy. G.

[Mr Enternational]

I can't understand the obsession on the Pattaya board about mongers wanting to prove they can pick up and bang an 8 or a 9. FFS, they are prostitutes.

I have never understood courting or kowtowing to a chick you have to pay. Hell, I don't even do it with the chicks I don't have to pay. I have always said just to walk up to them and say lets go. If she is trying to earn something then she will go. If she is not then just move on to the next one. A hooker is a hooker, no matter if she is a 2 or a 10. In any other business isn't the one spending the money the one that os supposed to be courted? A customer courting the seller is ass backwards.

[Engine Driver]

Why would a guy select an average looking girl when there's a prettier one at another bar?

We don't all have the same taste in girls anyways. One person's 8 may be another person's 5. Some guy may have barfined a girl who they thought was an 8 but after a poor session rates her a 6 for looks.

My point was that there's no need for the pissing contest as to who can get a 9 and who can't. They are all poorly educated prostitutes from poor rural backgrounds. Last time I looked, gold medals weren't being awarded to mongers with the most kills LOL.

[Siamsin]

We don't care who pick the hottest hooker as long as you pay there is no game. No money no honey thailand.

I would urge everyone, don't underestimate yourself. You have the most imp things these girls want, money. That is there purpose of being there.
8,9,10 scale girl, as long as they know that you can afford them, they will be very willing to go with you. I am from same region, never had a problem. There is a lady in Perth who advertises no African or Indians. Once offered her $100 more and she accepted the booking. Since that day I believe that your game has nothing to do with you getting girl, game can get you better or cheaper service at times, but most girls will prefer more money.

There is no game as long as you pay. I don't know why people are talking about games when it comes to hookers. A hooker is a hooker, she will say all you want to hear. Your dick is small (oh your dick is big), you are ugly (you are handsome) you are fat (you are strong) you are old (you look younger), you are not interesting (they listen to you as if they are interested) you are a foreigner (I don't like local men) you were bad in bed (I loved it) etc. It's their work to adapt to the client and know how to lie because they are used to all kinds of clients and are working girls. If they always say the truth they will lose clients. Western men are dump, Indian men are cheap etc but stereotypes mean nothing. There are so many stereotypes. We Brazilian guys are known to be machos, cheaters but it's just a stereotype and I don't care. If you enjoy, there is nothing to do with your ethnicity but more with your personality.

If you fuck a girl without paying cash, we can talk about the games. Travelling miles just to get laid with farmers, it's not game.

That's the most correct and sensible post I've read in a long time.

I can't understand the obsession on the Pattaya board about mongers wanting to prove they can pick up and bang an 8 or a 9. FFS, they are prostitutes.

I do agree with you guys to an extent that money will pretty much open any set of shapely legs in the p4 p scene. But how many punters are actually that exceptionally wealthy? Picture a rough looking, overweight dude with just got out of bed attire, walking into a top gogo bar and signalling 1 of the top 5 girls to go with him. His chances are absolutely zero. However, if he gives the mamasan 2 k and tells the girl he'll give her 20 k /30 k for ST with his requirements, I'm pretty sure she'll bite the bullet and consider it. Likewise with the Online Scene of ThaiFriendly and other dating apps which I'm more familiar with, where first impressions and profile pictures count, I can assure you that the exact same guy I described above will have zero chance of getting responses from the hottest girls on there, with a profile photo of him standing in a park or in his Speedos on the beach. But if he showcases his lifestyle with photos of him next to his Ferrari's, on his luxury catamaran, wearing a custom Bijan suit and matching Rolex etc, I'm pretty sure his inbox would be full.

Unfortunately most of us aren't that exceptionally wealthy, and that's where Game comes in. In the p4 p4 scene, it's the ability to pay a fair rate for the requirements the punter expects, and get all that from 8, 9 or 10 WG's constantly. Further perks of having good Game is to later spend much less or no money when repeating with some of these girls, just out of your pure ability to seduce and intoxify them with your charm. Game goes beyond WG's in that you're able to pull ordinary chicks from just about anywhere. It works especially well in Thailand where sex, sexual preferences and sexuality is openly accepted. Thai girls are far more liberal when it comes to sex and 1 night stands with foreigners, so having good game definitely helps.

Every single 1 of us has and uses some sort of game whether we know it or not. It's not just what you say to women, but everything about you, before you even say a word. Your demeanor, body language, attire, build, hygiene, multilingualism ability, scent, aura, approach etc. Hot girls get hit on every single day of their lives. Be it walking around the mall, in their neighborhoods, at work, gym, out with friends, on their social media accounts, everywhere. I asked 1 of my Thai friendly hookups when last she had used the app, and in my presence she logged in and within a minute of her being online, she had over 30 messages, an exorbitant number of profile visits and a couple of dick pics (LOL. Who the fuck does that shit) in that short space of time. She just looked at me and said, that's why she doesn't use it anymore. Having good game allows you to stand out from the crowd, be noticed, banter, and bed the girl you desire.

In the p4 p scene most punters, be it expats, holiday makers, business travelers, returning spouses etc, have budgets or limits that they abide to. Blowing your entire pussy budget on a few 9's or 10's in a space of 5 days of your 14 day vakay for example, isn't very smart if your intention to get those girls is offering them more money. But having good game when chatting to that 9 or 10, negging her, making her laugh, bantering, building rapport and curiosity, will easily allow you to get her to agree to some if not all your requirements for an acceptable rate. After a session with her, possibly see her at a reduced rate or no charge, hook you up with a friend, maybe even persuade her into a threesome. There's plenty of posts on the Thailand forum about guys that don't pay for sex or have a set few girls they see for casual rendezvous and that all boils down to their game imo.

[Horatio]

For me, pretty enough is pretty enough. All things being equal, prettier is better. But in my experience, it easier to meet a fun 7 then a fun 9, that maybe bc there are more 7's. It's usually cheaper also.

Why would a guy select an average looking girl when there's a prettier one at another bar?

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[Banana Boi]

I can't understand the obsession on the Pattaya board about mongers wanting to prove they can pick up and bang an 8 or a 9. FFS, they are prostitutes.

Why would a guy select an average looking girl when there's a prettier one at another bar?

We don't all have the same taste in girls anyways. One person's 8 may be another person's 5. Some guy may have barfined a girl who they thought was an 8 but after a poor session rates her a 6 for looks.

[Engine Driver]

There is no game as long as you pay. I don't know why people are talking about games when it comes to hookers. A hooker is a hooker, she will say all you want to hear. Your dick is small (oh your dick is big), you are ugly (you are handsome) you are fat (you are strong) you are old (you look younger), you are not interesting (they listen to you as if they are interested) you are a foreigner (I don't like local men) you were bad in bed (I loved it) etc. It's their work to adapt to the client and know how to lie because they are used to all kinds of clients and are working girls. If they always say the truth they will lose clients. Western men are dump, Indian men are cheap etc but stereotypes mean nothing. There are so many stereotypes. We Brazilian guys are known to be machos, cheaters but it's just a stereotype and I don't care. If you enjoy, there is nothing to do with your ethnicity but more with your personality.

If you fuck a girl without paying cash, we can talk about the games. Travelling miles just to get laid with farmers, it's not game.

I plan to travel to Thailand (Pattaya) not because I am homesick but because I like visiting different countries. I fuck everyday in my home country.

That's the most correct and sensible post I've read in a long time.

I can't understand the obsession on the Pattaya board about mongers wanting to prove they can pick up and bang an 8 or a 9. FFS, they are prostitutes.

[MongerForSex]

I am from same region, never had a problem. There is a lady in Perth who advertises no African or Indians. Once offered her $100 more and she accepted the booking. Since that day I believe that your game has nothing to do with you getting girl, game can get you better or cheaper service at times, but most girls will prefer more money.

There is no game as long as you pay. I don't know why people are talking about games when it comes to hookers. A hooker is a hooker, she will say all you want to hear. Your dick is small (oh your dick is big), you are ugly (you are handsome) you are fat (you are strong) you are old (you look younger), you are not interesting (they listen to you as if they are interested) you are a foreigner (I don't like local men) you were bad in bed (I loved it) etc. It's their work to adapt to the client and know how to lie because they are used to all kinds of clients and are working girls. If they always say the truth they will lose clients. Western men are dump, Indian men are cheap etc but stereotypes mean nothing. There are so many stereotypes. We Brazilian guys are known to be machos, cheaters but it's just a stereotype and I don't care. If you enjoy, there is nothing to do with your ethnicity but more with your personality.

If you fuck a girl without paying cash, we can talk about the games. Travelling miles just to get laid with farmers, it's not game.

I plan to travel to Thailand (Pattaya) not because I am homesick but because I like visiting different countries. I fuck everyday in my home country.