Rio de Janeiro Reports

[Balboa]

Brasil has changed the past ten years for sure. The girls now approach it like hourly consultants and lawyers. They want to be to maximize their dollars per hour.

Again, it all depends on the venues and girls you choose.

Gringo venues, termas, etc, I'm sure that is true.

I am very frequently in both SP and Rio and have no problem finding girls that want to hang all day / night for in actuality, whatever money I want to give them.

I'm generous with good, cool girls, but not a bobo either.

I'm no better than anyone else obviously. I'm just frequently in Brazil, I search off the beaten path, I do speak pretty good portuguese and I'm not difficult to hang with, lol.

[WyattEarp]

This is especially true if they also have nowhere to go or nothing to do (single no kids). The issue in the 1900's and early 2000's were many stayed in crowded GP's shared rooms especially during lucrative special event or holidays. Where staying in a nice BM's location with AC and nice clean sheets / bed was a good incentive to stay longer and provide moderately good service versus going back to a crowded shared room.

Yes, I couldn't have said it better.

It was an interesting time. I spent a few nights in a shitty apartment in one of those buildings near Help. The girls were crammed into small, no A / see apartments. I called it the beehive. The hallways smelled like hairspray when the girls were getting ready for the night. They would have their doors and windows opened to increase the ventilation and would be chatting up a storm in the hallways.

It was definitely easier back then, but it helps to make like "Fonzie" as Samuel Jackson says in Pulp Fiction. So be "cool". LOL. It helps to have snacks, soda, beer and liquor. Slow things down and chill.

I ask if they want to stay and go out to breakfast or lunch. Most Brasilieras like the beach. When they say, they don't have a bikini. I say we will go buy one in the morning. Some of the girls appreciate non-monetary generosity. There are always inexpensive, bikini shops near my hotel or apartment. If the girl seems nice and a good performer, I might offer a tip that I will give her in the morning.

[UniversalX]

In the 1990's and 2000's, you could get a very hot girl who would just hang out and chill until round two maybe even into the next day. Others would be getting dressed and kissing you goodbye soon after blowing your first load. As a generalization, I thought this out the door mentality was more a Paulista trait. Carioca girls can be more chill if they're comfortable and having a reasonably good time.

This is especially true if they also have nowhere to go or nothing to do (single no kids). The issue in the 1900's and early 2000's were many stayed in crowded GP's shared rooms especially during lucrative special event or holidays. Where staying in a nice BM's location with AC and nice clean sheets / bed was a good incentive to stay longer and provide moderately good service versus going back to a crowded shared room.

[Mr Enternational]

Maybe I should have just given the money in the beginning, counted it as a loss, and kept the relationship with Victoria (wonder if I should approach if I see her again).

Why? So you can get fucked over again? They probably already see you as easy pickings.

[WyattEarp]

You can negotiate for 2 hours but you have to confirm that it will be for as many nuts as you can bust. In their minds, it was 2 hours or 1 nut. Once you came, the date was over.

Even many of the terma girls have this attitude. You book an hour and you nut in 15 minutes and they are ready to take a shower and go back downstairs. I have had girls get annoyed when I tell them to get back to work, but they knew better than to give me an issue because we can complain to the manager.

You did well to just cut your losses and pay them to leave. Unfortunately, Brasil has changed in the past 10 years and become more business like.

Side note: An older traveler told me to always get pictures of the girls before you go to the room. He did it for 2 reasons

1) If the girl was unwilling to take pictures at the club, beach, restaurant, then she definitely wont allow pictures back in the hotel. Ditch her

2) If she gives you a hard time or is a lame fuck, you now have a picture that you can show your buddies so they don't waste their time or money with them.

The condom thing in duplas, triplas, etc. Is serious stuff for many of the girls. We did a festa with four guys on four Termas 4 x 4 girls. Yes 4 x 4 x 4 x 4 if that makes sense. These girls were absolutely organized and they got a condom off and a new one on like a Formula One pit crew. Of course, you need a lot of condoms.

Brasil has changed the past ten years for sure. The girls now approach it like hourly consultants and lawyers. They want to be to maximize their dollars per hour.

In the 1990's and 2000's, you could get a very hot girl who would just hang out and chill until round two maybe even into the next day. Others would be getting dressed and kissing you goodbye soon after blowing your first load. As a generalization, I thought this out the door mentality was more a Paulista trait. Carioca girls can be more chill if they're comfortable and having a reasonably good time.

[Jefferson1993]

Which is exactly where I met them.

Most especially if you get girls from the gringo venues like Mabs, Dolce Vita, etc.

[Jefferson1993]

Yeah, you're right. That's another thing I should have made very clear. Yeah, I'm glad I did, not worth the headache. There is always more. I also really like that side note. Thanks for the advice.

You can negotiate for 2 hours but you have to confirm that it will be for as many nuts as you can bust. In their minds, it was 2 hours or 1 nut. Once you came, the date was over.

Even many of the terma girls have this attitude. You book an hour and you nut in 15 minutes and they are ready to take a shower and go back downstairs. I have had girls get annoyed when I tell them to get back to work, but they knew better than to give me an issue because we can complain to the manager.

You did well to just cut your losses and pay them to leave. Unfortunately, Brasil has changed in the past 10 years and become more business like.

Side note: An older traveler told me to always get pictures of the girls before you go to the room. He did it for 2 reasons

1) If the girl was unwilling to take pictures at the club, beach, restaurant, then she definitely wont allow pictures back in the hotel. Ditch her

2) If she gives you a hard time or is a lame fuck, you now have a picture that you can show your buddies so they don't waste their time or money with them.

[Balboa]

You did well to just cut your losses and pay them to leave. Unfortunately, Brasil has changed in the past 10 years and become more business like.

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Most especially if you get girls from the gringo venues like Mabs, Dolce Vita, etc.

[Bravo]

Thoughts I have right now:

- IDK if dancing at clubs with the girls is weird here or if it was just two I talk to (I think it is just them).

- Start a timer everyone see when they get there and if you need to pause for any reason make it clear.

- if you don't have a fat stack of condoms, talk about how they want to do it (I had 4 or 5).

- Another frustrating thing was when I was fucking one the other would try to be off dancing or just away until I motioned them over. I personally want dual contact the entire time and need to make that clear.

- Be immediately weary if someone promises you two hours. These hoes can't hang that long with back to back sessions.

- Maybe I should have just given the money in the beginning, counted it as a loss, and kept the relationship with Victoria (wonder if I should approach if I see her again).

- Those bodies are the ones I'm looking for out here, and it was a good time for what I had. I just wanted my second round, and so I'm less that satisfied.

You can negotiate for 2 hours but you have to confirm that it will be for as many nuts as you can bust. In their minds, it was 2 hours or 1 nut. Once you came, the date was over.

Even many of the terma girls have this attitude. You book an hour and you nut in 15 minutes and they are ready to take a shower and go back downstairs. I have had girls get annoyed when I tell them to get back to work, but they knew better than to give me an issue because we can complain to the manager.

You did well to just cut your losses and pay them to leave. Unfortunately, Brasil has changed in the past 10 years and become more business like.

Side note: An older traveler told me to always get pictures of the girls before you go to the room. He did it for 2 reasons

1) If the girl was unwilling to take pictures at the club, beach, restaurant, then she definitely wont allow pictures back in the hotel. Ditch her

2) If she gives you a hard time or is a lame fuck, you now have a picture that you can show your buddies so they don't waste their time or money with them.

[Jefferson1993]

Day four in Rio ended up being a really aggravating one, but that's not till the end. I slept in, as normally, and found a place online called Billy the Grill. It is located at: Miguel Lemos, 56 - Loja A. Copacabana, Rio de Janeiro. RJ, 22071-001, Brazil. It was just far enough that I thought it'd be worth the 9 R uber ride. The uber pulls up to the address and says the number of the building and points. I saw the number but didn't see any restaurant sign. I hopped out, and walked over. One look at the dude sitting on a chair behind the locked gate told me that was not the place (I asked anyway and looked dumb AF). Point is I could not find Billy the Grill in that immediate area so be aware if you're craving that one. I walked around and ended up stopping at Combinado na Brasa. I ordered chicken plate that came with a nice Pico, black beans, fries, and a lot of rice; I also ordered two cocktails and a mango drink. All in all it came out to about 73 R.

Talked to Vagabundo1 for a bit and planned to link up later this week. Stayed at the restaurant for awhile after I finished my meal and drinks.

Walked back to the place, hit an ATM, and waited for it to get a bit later so I could go see what Dolce Vida is about. It opens at 2300 so I figured I'd stop it around 0000 and it would be mostly going. I walked over and got there around 0035.50 R is the cover charge to get in, they ask and write down you name, and then give you a card. This card is actually for keeping track of the drinks and stuff you buy while you're there and then you pay it when you leave (just a tab card).

To my surprise the place was basically empty. There was literally 5 people besides the workers. Two girls with guys already dancing with them and one other woman holding a drink. I walked to the back to see the rest and that was it. The room is pretty small, I feel like it could get pretty congested quickly. One of the workers told me it normally doesn't pick up until 0200 and then again before they close at 0600. You are allowed to leave and come back without paying again. I decided to stay and had a drink.

The lone girl was good looking, tall, good size ass and tits. So I smiled and motioned her to come over, I tried dancing with her and she only really entertained it for as long as it took to exchange names and a compliment. She asked if I knew how this place worked. I wasn't sure if she meant there were rooms we'd use there (there are not) so I said no tell me. Then I realized she was just saying the girls are working and I was like I got that. We talked price. She wanted 500 R for an hour and I told her that for 500 I wanted lots of kisses with tongue, BBBJ, and cum in mouth (CIM). She said she won't do CIM and she does condom for everything and I sent her on her way. A few more girls started trickling in. Nothing special so I just avoided eye contact or made sure not to smile at them.

Then a couple of girls came in with nice fat asses that looked real. One was lighter skinned, probably a be cup, with a natural large afro. The other was dark skinned, probably an A cup with dreads that only come to probably her chin. The lighter skinned girl had the fatter ass so I smiled at her and motioned her to come over. I started dancing with her and she also only danced for a few moments (pretty awkward). She asked if it was my first time in Brazil, I said yes and she said that she is an escort. I wanted to laugh, idk why these girls don't think it's obvious. I asked how much and she said 500 R for TWO hours. I told her what I wanted (same as before) she said she won't do CIM but she does do BBBJ. I paused and thought. Then she motioned her friend to come over. The darker friend was immediately more affectionate (I believe her name is Victoria). I gave then some hugs and felt them both up a bit to confirm they were natural and asked how much for both. The light skinned girl said 600 are each for two hours, I called her out and she said 500 are. I confirmed that it was two hours starting at my place and she said yes. I agreed and we left. Dolce Vita made me pay 70 are to take them with me.

We got back to my place about 0110. I played some music and they began tweaking and stripping. Victoria was much better despite the lighter girl having a bigger ass (Victoria's is still great though). They took turns sucking me while the other kissed me. I noticed the lighter girl was making an effort to not use her tongue, at one point I told her to stick her tongue out so I could lick it (barely came out). Victoria was basically licking / sucking / eating my face which was great. We started fucking and the first issue I hadn't thought of came up. They wanted a new condom every time I switched girls (and I wanted to switch a lot). In the past I've just kept the same condom on the whole time. I blew it off at first but after about 20 minutes I was on my last condom. I told them stop this isn't going to work. The light skin girl said why. We went back and forth about it, me saying I wasn't going to get my time worth at this rate and her saying we've been dancing for so long and we were wasting time and to just fuck her. I told her to stop the time because this is a problem and at this rate they'd be leaving at 1 hour. We agreed it had only been 30 minutes since they got there. They also decided to keep the open condom for light skin (just keep putting it back on) and the last one for Victora. We kept fucking (very turned off by light skinned girl at this point). Before which, I actually pulled out my phone and started a stopwatch, light skin said that isn't the time and I replied the time is this plus the 30 minutes you've been here and and she agreed. Then she finally got me hard again (after telling me I needed me to focus while she was sucking) I motioned Victoria over and we kissed while I got sucked which got me hard.

I switched the last time to Victoria and made her cum then I came in the condom. Light skin went to the shower and Victora wiped her cum off me and started sucking my dick again, amazingly, until light skin got out of the shower then she went to clean off. They came back and started getting dressed. At this point it's about 0220. I asked if we were going to keep going. Light skin said baby no I said two hours and then I told her it had only been one. She just shook her head. I put some pants on and only gave them 500 R for doing half the work. She said they had been there for two hours and she was wrong about the time before. We argued for about 25 minutes getting louder and louder. She said she was calling the cops and said please and pointed out the window to the cops across the street. We kept arguing, and I think I offered to give them 300 each. Eventually felt myself losing my temper and pulled out the extra 500, walked them to the door, basically threw it at them and slammed the door.

So very frustrating, and even more frustrating because I really liked Victoria and would definitely session with her alone again and again.

Thoughts I have right now:

- IDK if dancing at clubs with the girls is weird here or if it was just two I talk to (I think it is just them).

- Start a timer everyone see when they get there and if you need to pause for any reason make it clear.

- if you don't have a fat stack of condoms, talk about how they want to do it (I had 4 or 5).

- Another frustrating thing was when I was fucking one the other would try to be off dancing or just away until I motioned them over. I personally want dual contact the entire time and need to make that clear.

- Be immediately weary if someone promises you two hours. These hoes can't hang that long with back to back sessions.

- Maybe I should have just given the money in the beginning, counted it as a loss, and kept the relationship with Victoria (wonder if I should approach if I see her again).

- Those bodies are the ones I'm looking for out here, and it was a good time for what I had. I just wanted my second round, and so I'm less that satisfied.

[Jefferson1993]

Day 3 was a very slow day for me. It was Sunday and most of the spots are closed. Woke up and there was a whole farmers / food market outside my window set up in the few hours I was asleep! I'm across from the Square Serzedelo Corra and the entire block was surrounded with stands selling everything from raw fish, whole raw chickens, and pork to flowers, fresh fruit, and pastries. I walked through that for awhile and had some pastries.

They also close down half of the main road in front of the beach so people can run, bike, Rollerblade, and just be on it. I'm not sure if this is an every Sunday thing or if something special was going on yesterday, but it was pretty cool. I had lunch at Rondinella with a water and two cocktails for about 80 are.

Then one of the dudes I met the night before hit me up and said he was at Mabs looking around, I thought is was pretty early for anyone to be there. When I got there he was talking to this bombshell, light skinned, blonde girl. She ended up calling another girl, bombshell, tan with brown hair for another guy that was there that was leaving that night. The blonde charged 500 are for the hour plus uber unless he came to her place. I don't know how much the brunette charged. She was probably worth it (even though I'm sure her tits were fake). They walked back to her place for the good time. The other guy took the brunette upstairs.

I walked the busy street and just took in the sights and took the time to reach out to more girls on BarraVips. Most messaged back, it seems like a few have automatic messages sent up to send you rates when you message them. Most are 500 are some are 400 are, most charge extra for anal or don't do it. One girl, Jade, had the audacity to charge 700 are an hour with no extras!

So today was slow, mostly messages and chilling in the market or the beach. Also found a nice cigar shop just down the same street Mabs is on (Gullo Tabacaria Copacabana). Not a huge smoker but I'll probably grab some before I leave. I did get messaged by Bruna from the night before so that was a quick easy one.

[Jefferson1993]

Thank you, I really appreciate that. So far I think your plan will be spot on!

These are great reports. I have never been to Rio, but it is in my plans for the fall. From all the reading I have done, it looks like maybe the Hilton Copa, with visits to MAB, Eden Spa, Dolce Vita, Termas TMC, and the centro daytime massage places will be my plan. Following your posts closely! Thanks!

[WyattEarp]

I think the specific note of someone's skin color to be characterized as african american is a bit much since it's really the cultural that makes you more part of a group. Like previously mentioned of how latin kids who were born and lived a few years in their respective country and moved to the US and completely assimilated to the western way of life. They have latin / south american citizenships, brown skin yet they are distinctly westernized and you'd could easy spot the difference between the two under a minute. I know many white Christian missionaries who have moved to latin / south america and have raised a white family who are more hispanic than hispanics in the US.

The term african american originated during the slave trade when african people with african names that spoke african languages were shipped out to the americans and that's why it's so odd when people use it to define black americans as that link has long since gone and been replaced with anglo names and english speaking people.

In the usage I understand here in the United States, African-American is used like Irish-American or Italian-American. They are simply ethnicities. The same is true with Latin-American. Jennifer Lopez is Latin-American.

Not to get all historically correct, but I don't think slaves were deemed "Americans" by the people and States holding them in slavery. I don't even think there children were considered true Americans.

[Bearsi]

It is interesting. Some of my friends who are first generation Latin are basically white just because of how they grew up. Some of them actually tried so hard to assimilate because they didn't want / like the attention and didn't want to get made fun of growing up. Now they look back and wish they wouldn't have cared as much and and show a lot of pride for their heritage. The one I'm talking about specifically was even born there and came to the US and a small child.

I knew a few who's parents actively didn't speak to them in Spanish so they would learn English as their primary language. And yea you would be made fun of, I recalled kids being sent to ESOL classes and treated a bit different. Their parents wanted them to get the best education they never had and ESOL classes really hampered that so I can understand their reasoning. It sucks because knowing spanish is really key and vital in a few states and will be more in demand as they hispanic population in the US keeps growing.

I actually went out with a peruvian girl who immigrated here when she was 8 and now she is 24 and is a "No Sabo" kid which is a term for latin kids who don't know any spanish. She actually had a valley girl accent which made it even more funny.

It's the taco bell effect. It keeps some elements of the roots but has been completely molded to western standards.

I guess the more appropriate term would be Anglicisation but layman's term of gringo by the brazilian works too as they don't pussyfoot around as you can tell from the lyrics from their funk music.

Don't know why people would be offended to be called gringo when they have a anglo sounding name and speaks the king's english.

African American means something very particular. It's an ethnic group originating in the United States with sub-Saharan Africa (black) ancestry. That excludes both Usain Bolt and Elon Musk. Bolt is not from the United States, and neither is Musk originally, who also doesn't have sub-Saharan Africa (black) ancestry (he was born of white South African parents). Therefore neither of them is "African American."

I think the specific note of someone's skin color to be characterized as african american is a bit much since it's really the cultural that makes you more part of a group. Like previously mentioned of how latin kids who were born and lived a few years in their respective country and moved to the US and completely assimilated to the western way of life. They have latin / south american citizenships, brown skin yet they are distinctly westernized and you'd could easy spot the difference between the two under a minute. I know many white Christian missionaries who have moved to latin / south america and have raised a white family who are more hispanic than hispanics in the US.

The term african american originated during the slave trade when african people with african names that spoke african languages were shipped out to the americans and that's why it's so odd when people use it to define black americans as that link has long since gone and been replaced with anglo names and english speaking people.

[ShinyCrazy]

Yesterday was my second day in Rio.

These are great reports. I have never been to Rio, but it is in my plans for the fall. From all the reading I have done, it looks like maybe the Hilton Copa, with visits to MAB, Eden Spa, Dolce Vita, Termas TMC, and the centro daytime massage places will be my plan. Following your posts closely! Thanks!