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  1. #27571

    Thanks for the Insight

    Quote Originally Posted by CenTexCrash  [View Original Post]
    Small world! Last month crossed both of these destinations off my bucket list in one single swing thanks to multi-city booking on Copa Airlines.

    I already voiced my opinion on Medellin which appears 80/20 hater / spot on: Medellin is oversaturated with idiot gringos who overpaid and have grossly diluted going rates, and weird unexplained vibe specific only to Medellin and no where else on the globe: you will only enjoy it if you plan on being a regular / lifer. Casual one-time visitors won't have the same results as the seasoned pros. Even the first time visit involves a load a pre-planning to point it is almost a Catch 22 / Paradox of itself. Link: http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?583-Medellin-Reports&p=2781338#post2781338

    Most of this is hindsight I wish I knew more of when I initially booked the trip, hopefully your ride is much smoother than mine!
    Thanks for the insight! This was helpful, I guess at this point I will have to either gather my wits and go to Medellin knowing full well it's is saturated, or try Brazil. Man the choices LOL. When I was in Cartagena the girls on the beach (and the ones walking around Clock Tower) would always straight up be like 100 usd to which I would get their number and text them at lower rate later in the night, it worked I would say half the time. The other half I just stopped responding. I hope more guys read these threads so they how they are screwing up a great spot for guys like me to get their demon time on. Getting to Medellin from where I am at plus staying at Green LLeras hotel is something like $1100 for 8 night. Brazil Is pricey to get to but from what I'm reading service are less expensive. I have no problem spending money if I find a girl that is actually hot though.

    Would you or any other member say Villa Mimosa is safer during the day to find young girls and get their numbers? Having read the posts it seems that most of them show up night, I wonder if that's always the case.

    If I go to Rio I will surely contribute to this thread!

  2. #27570
    Quote Originally Posted by RavenBoy89  [View Original Post]
    Hi guys,

    Not trying to jack this thread. I have done my research on this thread, I went back to December 30,2021 and starting reading and made notes on prices, places, girls, I also had fun reading about Vagabundo01 and other members adventures, etc.

    I have been to Cartagena once and it was GREAT, didn't over pay and banged some really hot chicks and one really cute 20 year old, I found a lot of young girls at the beach at stall #4 I think. I have also been to Bangkok, great time but I love Latina women more. My main priority going is pussy, maybe if worked remote I would think about having a harem and staying there but hey it is what it is.
    Small world! Last month crossed both of these destinations off my bucket list in one single swing thanks to multi-city booking on Copa Airlines.

    I already voiced my opinion on Medellin which appears 80/20 hater / spot on: Medellin is oversaturated with idiot gringos who overpaid and have grossly diluted going rates, and weird unexplained vibe specific only to Medellin and no where else on the globe: you will only enjoy it if you plan on being a regular / lifer. Casual one-time visitors won't have the same results as the seasoned pros. Even the first time visit involves a load a pre-planning to point it is almost a Catch 22 / Paradox of itself. Link: http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?583-Medellin-Reports&p=2781338#post2781338

    Both scenes: renting a airBnb / hotel with a roof top pool / villa bungalow with a pool GREATLY increases your in-call session quality. More on that later.

    Villa Mimosa: link up with user Vagabungo or hire a body guard. Do NOT go into VM solo as a tourist! Just don't.

    When in VM or a termas, show the girl pics of you in your decked out room and decked out pool and ask for her WhatsApp.

    Spas usually cater to locals on their lunch break, tourists might not be impressed.

    One curveball that threw off my night owl status quo: Rio monger scene is done in broad daylight between 10 am-5 pm. There are club / termas options mainly Zona Centro open till midnight too. However especially Centro, the real sketchy ugly figures of Rio start trickling out into streets at these late hours. If you're still clubbing late night ready to fold up, ask club staff to arrange a Taxi waiting outside for you to leap into before you become a statistic.

    Saturdays and Sundays EVERYTHING is closed, so all those WhatsApp contacts you harvested earlier in the week? That's your weekend action.

    While on my trip, I was bombarded with several ISG PMs that in the case of both MDE and Rio, the real knockout girls follow the money trail and are not in either MDE nor Rio, they are in Bogota and Sao Paulo. Not sure if you're in a position to look into that?

    Most of this is hindsight I wish I knew more of when I initially booked the trip, hopefully your ride is much smoother than mine!

  3. #27569
    Quote Originally Posted by RavenBoy89  [View Original Post]
    I wanted to get some members opinion here. Having seen videos and read the threads on Medellin it seems that you can find young girls (NOTHING illegal, I mean 18-22) in el Centro, Parque Lleras, and Parque de el Poblado. There are no videos like that for Brazil, so I can only go by what I am reading here. It seems that the only way I can find younger girls in Rio would be Villa Mimosa walking around and talking, the beach IF I get lucky plus I can't Portuguese so I mean really lucky, or using a website but options are limited.

    I know there are members that have been to both places, if you could compare which one do you prefer in terms of quality, level of service, and hotness.
    Streetwalkers are not as plentiful in Brazil as Colombia. I've been to Bogota and Cartagena, but not Medellin, and AFAIK there are not many areas in Brazil like Santa Fe, or Tower Clock (or Pargue Lleras, it seems). But there is Vila Mimosa in Rio, although this is NOT a pleasant area. I can tell you it's rougher than Santa Fe and that means something. It's not especially dangerous, mind you, just the general vibe.

    In Brazil, there are tons of prives / terapias / clinicas ("massage" brothels) and boates ("night club" brothels). And yes, you can find your 18-22 year olds there, but you'll need to enter each establishment and look. They're not in your face like in the above-mentioned areas.

    I would say, in terms of quality and hotness, there is some kind of general parity here. Latinas are Latinas after all, although Brazilians are more diverse in looks due to a larger pool of ethnicities.

    As to level of service and work ethics, Brazilian women are unparalleled, IMHO.

  4. #27568
    Quote Originally Posted by RavenBoy89  [View Original Post]
    Hi guys,

    Not trying to jack this thread. I have done my research on this thread, I went back to December 30,2021 and starting reading and made notes on prices, places, girls, I also had fun reading about Vagabundo01 and other members adventures, etc.

    I have been to Cartagena once and it was GREAT, didn't over pay and banged some really hot chicks and one really cute 20 year old, I found a lot of young girls at the beach at stall #4 I think. I have also been to Bangkok, great time but I love Latina women more. My main priority going is pussy, maybe if worked remote I would think about having a harem and staying there but hey it is what it is.

    When I was in Cartagena I took proper precautions because of the drugging that go on there. I am not a drinker so I never drank with the girls in Cartagena, if I have to then a beer at the club but nothing at my place. Just fuck, while she says things to me in Spanish, god I love that.

    I wanted to get some members opinion here. Having seen videos and read the threads on Medellin it seems that you can find young girls (NOTHING illegal, I mean 18-22) in el Centro, Parque Lleras, and Parque de el Poblado. There are no videos like that for Brazil, so I can only go by what I am reading here. It seems that the only way I can find younger girls in Rio would be Villa Mimosa walking around and talking, the beach IF I get lucky plus I can't Portuguese so I mean really lucky, or using a website but options are limited.

    I know there are members that have been to both places, if you could compare which one do you prefer in terms of quality, level of service, and hotness.
    I have been to Medellin 5 times and I love it. That being said I am in Rio for the first time right now and I can tell you Rio is far superior in my humble opinion. It has everything that Medellin has and so much more. Logistically speaking meddy is much easier for me to get to and it is cheaper on average for everything (flights, lodging, food and of course girls). But the extra money you spend for Brazil is well worth it. You don't have to go to Villa Mimosa to find what you want either. It's everywhere here. They have daytime spots similar to the Medellin casas almost as cheap. The girls are beautiful and there's not as much plastic in Rio. I personally love the natural bodys. As far as age goes most working girls look to be 18-25 from what I have seen. If you can do Rio I think you will be impressed. Although Medellin is always a great time too and I will still go there but Rio scratches a special itch for this here particular monger that nowhere else I have ever been to can compare. Feel free to DM me for more info on either place.

  5. #27567
    The week in baseball -.

    I did a Monday night pernoite at Hotel Lips in centro for 140 for a hidro suite, and 300 r for the girl, Noemie Michelle Obama Bilas, 4 pops, probably 2. 5 hours of sex in the hidro, etc. Got her some food $100 r and breakfast like a vagabundo.

    Last week, went over to Mosaico with Senor Chege, but nothing done as it was a local holiday during carnival and the best girls were not there.

    More of the normal the last week, Saturday trips to centro prives for the 90 r for half hour specials, nice big tits on 22 year old girls who are 7's here, but 9's in North America.

    Personally, Vagabundo prefers post carnival, but new years on the beach in Rio was rad, and Carnival is always fun. Now, it's a little hot, but it will cool off in a few months.

    Lieutenant Commander Vagabundo, Swiss Naval Intelligence, Your Man in rio, Reporting.

  6. #27566
    Quote Originally Posted by RavenBoy89  [View Original Post]
    Having seen videos and read the threads on Medellin it seems that you can find young girls (NOTHING illegal, I mean 18-22) in el Centro, Parque Lleras, and Parque de el Poblado. There are no videos like that for Brazil, so I can only go by what I am reading here. It seems that the only way I can find younger girls in Rio would be Villa Mimosa walking around and talking, the beach IF I get lucky plus I can't Portuguese so I mean really lucky, or using a website but options are limited.
    Seems you have missed a big part of the Rio thread, which discusses privees, boates, termas, online. Don't expect to see what you need on youtube. You need boots on the ground.

  7. #27565

    Debating Between Medellin or Rio

    Hi guys,

    Not trying to jack this thread. I have done my research on this thread, I went back to December 30,2021 and starting reading and made notes on prices, places, girls, I also had fun reading about Vagabundo01 and other members adventures, etc.

    I have been to Cartagena once and it was GREAT, didn't over pay and banged some really hot chicks and one really cute 20 year old, I found a lot of young girls at the beach at stall #4 I think. I have also been to Bangkok, great time but I love Latina women more. My main priority going is pussy, maybe if worked remote I would think about having a harem and staying there but hey it is what it is.

    When I was in Cartagena I took proper precautions because of the drugging that go on there. I am not a drinker so I never drank with the girls in Cartagena, if I have to then a beer at the club but nothing at my place. Just fuck, while she says things to me in Spanish, god I love that.

    I wanted to get some members opinion here. Having seen videos and read the threads on Medellin it seems that you can find young girls (NOTHING illegal, I mean 18-22) in el Centro, Parque Lleras, and Parque de el Poblado. There are no videos like that for Brazil, so I can only go by what I am reading here. It seems that the only way I can find younger girls in Rio would be Villa Mimosa walking around and talking, the beach IF I get lucky plus I can't Portuguese so I mean really lucky, or using a website but options are limited.

    I know there are members that have been to both places, if you could compare which one do you prefer in terms of quality, level of service, and hotness.

  8. #27564
    You want high end porno sex with model looking girls or cheap dirty quick nut. Either is available with women of all different colors and body types.

  9. #27563

    Swing clubs?

    What are the best swing clubs in rio? Looking to go. How much is the cover and does anyone have their names / instagrams?

  10. #27562

    Actual Girl Talk?

    Hmmm prices. Minimum wage. Cell phones. Is anyone actually fucking anyone in Rio? Do tell! 😜.

  11. #27561
    This is one example.
    Quote Originally Posted by Combo  [View Original Post]
    ...A girl that's been in this game a while (and become well-known among the gringo crowd on FB or SA) might feel emboldened to hold out for a higher rate. I don't want that girl. The newer girls are generally a better experience.
    I will add some context based on my experience. Brazilians are generally nicer in negotiation. They don't get offended easily like the Paisas. They will either say no, or say something like the following image. Paisas are frequently rude. They will say something like who told you I would leave my house for XXX amount or something like that. But the reaction may have to do with the level of education so I am not really sure either
    Attached Thumbnails Attached Thumbnails image_2023-01-23_072538434.jpg‎  

  12. #27560
    Quote Originally Posted by MiamiBoy1  [View Original Post]
    Not necessarily. She could only have 1 or 2 long term sugar daddies prior, and once she is back on the market, her asking rate will be based on what she was getting from her SDs before. Prostitution is not your typical professional career, where you salary commensurates with your experience, education level, KPIs, etc. If a girl is hot and she knows it, she can easily start off with high rates at Scandallo. There is no need to gain experience working at clinicas or streets prior to working at Scandallo.
    I am trying to point out an irony without being too explicit. Some people value mileage so they will not go for what is considered high mileage ones and in this context, the high price. Borrow the investing term, high price ones are either fully valued or over valued, relative to the low mileage ones that are more likely to be undervalued.

  13. #27559
    Quote Originally Posted by Nounce  [View Original Post]
    What I am trying to say is not about how much. Let's look at it from the mileage point of view. I think most girls charge less when her hypothetical mileage is 0. By the time the girl get to 300/ HR, her mileage is higher.

    We are conditioned one way or the other by the cost of the country we come from. That is why I did the 300 proposal earlier because that is below my comfort zone, believe it or not.
    Not necessarily. She could only have 1 or 2 long term sugar daddies prior, and once she is back on the market, her asking rate will be based on what she was getting from her SDs before. Prostitution is not your typical professional career, where you salary commensurates with your experience, education level, KPIs, etc. If a girl is hot and she knows it, she can easily start off with high rates at Scandallo. There is no need to gain experience working at clinicas or streets prior to working at Scandallo.

  14. #27558
    Quote Originally Posted by MiamiBoy1  [View Original Post]
    $300/1 HR in Medellin? She can ask whatever she wants, and some sucker might pay it, but no matter how hot she is, I bet she won't get that rate consistently. Thank god, every city or venue has going rates in place, if costs of living and minimum / average wages were completely ignored and every monger paid whatever he was quoted, then we would not have them.
    What I am trying to say is not about how much. Let's look at it from the mileage point of view. I think most girls charge less when her hypothetical mileage is 0. By the time the girl get to 300/ HR, her mileage is higher.

    We are conditioned one way or the other by the cost of the country we come from. That is why I did the 300 proposal earlier because that is below my comfort zone, believe it or not.

  15. #27557
    Quote Originally Posted by MiamiBoy1  [View Original Post]
    I never said that a minimum wage job is equal to prostitution or should be equally paid. My point is that costs of living in each city / country and minimum wages should be taken into account when comparing p4 p rates in different countries. Don't you think that if city A in one country and city be in another country have exact same costs of living and minimum wages, they should have similar p4 p rates?
    The law of supply and demand along with cost and risks of doing business determines pricing.

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