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  1. #30069

    Feedback on sa

    Didn't realise would spark so much debate but fair enough I understand we don't want to spoil the market. Would just say we are talking about two different markets here. I've spent some proper time in Rio now. This was my 3rd time. My first trip I did spend as little as 800 BRL for an SA girl to be fair and a lot of "mileage" out of that 800 too from a university student. Invited to party with her etc as well. I also got scammed for 4. 5 k. I would accept this one was a pure scam as wasn't aware of the local market at this time & paid a US / Europe SA price. The second trip I visited some prives etc and paid sub-200 on occasion. I still mostly stuck with 4 x4 which was a lot more expensive. Especially for takeout. I would typically offer 1,000 BRL to girls on top of the takeout fee from 4 x4 - the girls explained they get c40% of the takeout fee from memory. Yes this is expensive but I'm only interested in meeting super-attractive / all-natural / english-speaking & I found more than 1 at 4 x4.

    I guess this last trip the difference was this 2nd SA girl (Lorie) is probably the best out of the 150+ that I have seen worldwide. So is she overcharging for rio, probably yes. But seeing someone like her (all-natural / authentic university student / speaks near-fluent english / proper GFE / well-travelled & very intelligent & made this old-man feel very young again) I would pay 3 k to again. I have seen someone in Rio for 150 BRL. I would forget this experience within a week but remember probably the 3 k spent on SA Lorie for a very, very long time. Keen to fly her out etc. She told me upfront that she wouldn't meet for less than 3,000 because she had exams coming up. Maybe she would take a little less. I offered 2,000 and she just flat-out said no. Try her and see if she scammed me or sticks to her guns at that price, would be interested to know! My feeling here is that top-tier GFE experience SA will be able to charge such numbers as there will always be people willing to pay. Like I said (and I am of average means by no means rich) I would rather spend money on meeting someone truly memorable like this instead of a lot of less-appealing girls. Though I am sure there are some diamonds to be had even at the 150 BRL level, I can't see a well-travelled / english-speaking university student etc being found there. Hope I get proven wrong as it will make my next trip much cheaper! I am going to sort out bitcoin to upgrade so can discuss more via PM.

  2. #30068

    Paris Tuesday night

    Paris Tuesday night.

    Tacoma a ISGer and I went to Paris last night, which was anticlimatic as I had trained 60 minutes Muay Thai at a university where I was smoking ganja with hot ass college chicks and the workers, but I was all pumped up from 60 minutes at a high heart zone rate so I wanted to go grab some ass and some numbers.

    The hottest ass in paris is a new one, jessica, big not horse big bunda, she would not give me her wassap and even claimed she did not have insta. How is that for a fckin heisman?! As I have alluded to, reverse racism is a thing, as she is mulatta and I profile as white though I am half asian, which is not exactly a minority, is it? Anyway, I am a victim of the hottest black women who enact reverse racism against me, haha. Perhaps she was justified in lying to me as I made my first impression with her with sunglasses on over a big black eye from a fall on a hike though everyone obviously thinks it is from being punched, which is plausible as I box 2 times a week with the muay thai team on campus. But I grabbed her ass. She would do a 40 minute session for 350 r. I don't give a fuk, as I was not going to session anyway, as was my wingman who has all the pussy he can handle from SA and repeats etc, as do I, and in any case talking to and chasing real college girls is more fun and exciting anyway, who needs apps, well there are the right wassap groups.

    Ok, anyway, I do know melissa, who has been there at paris for 3 years, and I have pernoited with her and she gave a bad session to senor nounce a few months ago. I chatted to melissa about a threesome, but I know how that goes, all covered, and then there are two girls at your place and scandalo, lose your apartment, etc, so it was just a idea. I would go to praia macumba smoke some ganja and fuk on the beach with these hoars anytime, but I have hoars for that who perform well.

    Anyway, the realest and best in some ways interactoin of the night was with the girl at the front desk, who is also hot af BTW. On the way in I say, I am a professioal, I am a go go boy like bruna surfistina dj, that gets a laugh. On the way out, I repeat the line, and she offers me a discount. My bill is 44 (30 entrada and 14 r for my diet coke). I give her a 50. And she gives me 10, a 4 reais discount. But she does it with a sexy smile which says, hey vagabundo, I want to have your gringo lips and tongue buried between my legs eating my burning pussy on command. To which I say, eu sou go go boy, eu tenho piroca 32 centimeters, grosso (I have a thick 12 inch dick). Normalmente, meninas me paga 500 reais por hora por voce vou fazer disconta. (normally women pay me 500 reais an hour to fuck them, but for you I will do a discount). She laughs and say, por mim 200 reais. (for me 200 reais, right? There is a cop, policia militar officer REDACTED sitting there with a 9 mm on his hip. I am playing a russian playlist (thanks miamiboy) on my gamer earbuds to learn russian for my real love a 22 year old russian exchange student who sits on my face while I play those songs every Tuesday and thursay in the muay thai room where I have a key. (see world according to garp).

    So anyway, having gained 4 reais by my winning sense of humor, in front of her boss and a cop, I take out my earbuds because I might be offending some locals, and with my superb verbal judo, I go get the only new number of the night, I get the number of the cop, REDACTED!

    How is that for smooth.

    I go back to casa vagabundo, listen to russian music, like Miyagi I got love, play radio on music. youtube.com, and I play videos of my russian tutor sitting on my face which I shot Tuesday afternoon on the muay thai mats with her light pink pussy lips, and then her asshole, impaled on the bright pink usb dildo that a fellow ISG member brought me in January (17 usd on amazon), a 43 minute long video that is interrupted by her squirting all over my dji action 4 which fortunately has a scuba case.

    The key to giving good head to a chick who can pick any dick in rio is to be her slave, and to use just the tongue.

    And let her pick the porn.

    Even if it is hardcore fem dom porn.

    I mean, I don't care if she watches chicks with strapons fuck guys up the ass on the macbook as long as she lets me put my medium sized but thick dick up her ass to shoot a quick wad between writing her masters thesis at the library, which closes at 22 h, which is when I leave campus.

  3. #30067
    As a comparison, see.

    https://barravipsrio.com/acompanhant...yasmin-mineira

    Yasmin mineira.

    Ok, she is hot af.

    But by hoar years (dog years) she is old.

    And she will ask 1500 are.

    I fuk ed her for 150 in motel malaga and in a airbnb in botafogo in 2015 when she was 18 (do the dog year math).

    You can find plenty of mineiras (the hottest brazilians) in photoaccompanhantes and even vm (I have some pics), and do them bare for 150 at your place after doing a session in their spot.

    But that takes some work, which means you need to come for minimum 2 weeks, better 2 months, and even better just don't leave rio and give power of attorney on your house in the rich world so you can sell it when you get addicted to bare teen carioca kunt like henry 'vagabundo' miller.

    And while I am at it here is some great investment advice.

    Buy recreio property.

    Easy to see the metro out here in 10 years if not 2.

    Quote Originally Posted by MaddTraveler  [View Original Post]
    No matter what part of the world you monger in, this isn't something girls do often pros or not. Most women won't talk about their previous experiences since they want to appear as a good inexperienced girl for you. That's a common and cheap sales tactic even telemarketers and scammers use; telling you so and so paid this and that. Same when a btch is telling me her ex did this or that then the imm reply is go back to that mofo. Why you left if he was so good? It's a nasty and disgusting trick and why would any man fall for that? Simpin at a new level.

  4. #30066
    Spot on!

    Now, end of month (April), I tell my girls I am out of money (which is true in my checking account, tho not brokerage), and get pernoite bbfscip 250 r, and put them on the same city bus that I ride in and out with them to and fro, which shuts them up about the uber and saves me the uber and the time to go get change to pay the uber, actually 99, so I guess panda boy has my data too.

    Quote Originally Posted by Tribute15  [View Original Post]
    I am stunned. 3 k reals per session. I paid 700 reals for per noite for a stunner from Emporio Banho. All holes included, sin condom and CIP. I felt I got the short end of the stick, because Vagabundo says he pays 400 reals for his per noite. I met a beauty at Perola Negra and she came over for 4 hours everything included was 500 reals. Whenever I travel anywhere nowadays, and met beautiful women, once I hear their prices, I immediately use Brazil as my measuring gauge. I will convert and think of how many stunners and wonderful session I can get in Rio. That makes me pause and rethink.

    Still blown away thinking of how many top end escorts or sessions at Termas 3 k can get me. BTW you can tell you overpaid, if after 2 sessions, the girl cancelled on the third. Too each his own.

  5. #30065

    Nailed it

    Quote Originally Posted by TheCane  [View Original Post]
    Can't believe someone paid 6,000 Reais for a session like that. Totally outrageous and unnecessary. One can pay less for better service. Way less! GFE or PSE or whatever. Geez! I tend not to comment on what guys pay but when I saw that had to gasp WTF? Really? That's not what a seasoned monger does. That's just what a horny guy with money to blow does. And don't let him come back and tell us he's seasoned. He's not. Because his actions speak louder than any words to the contrary. Tute hit a payday windfall! And will then come back talking about what her last sugar daddy paid her. Yeah well, I'm not him! So you can get to stepping up out of here!
    No matter what part of the world you monger in, this isn't something girls do often pros or not. Most women won't talk about their previous experiences since they want to appear as a good inexperienced girl for you. That's a common and cheap sales tactic even telemarketers and scammers use; telling you so and so paid this and that. Same when a btch is telling me her ex did this or that then the imm reply is go back to that mofo. Why you left if he was so good? It's a nasty and disgusting trick and why would any man fall for that? Simpin at a new level.

  6. #30064
    Quote Originally Posted by NiteRiderCal  [View Original Post]
    OK. I will be going to Rio soon, with 4 different cards. Capital one 360 master card, Schwab visa, Wise MC and revolut visa. If none of it work, I will ask my Brazilian friend to help me out. But I don't like asking people for help. From reading the link below, it seem Brazil don't want people to come to their country and spend money. The rest of the world love tourist.

    https://www.expat.com/forum/viewtopic.php?id=1063282

    Any of you have any success using USA debit card at the ATM within the past 6 months?
    You will be fine in Rio with the cards you have, and credit cards work well everywhere. I have been to only one remote city that the ATM don't take foreign card at all.

  7. #30063

    Wow

    I am stunned. 3 k reals per session. I paid 700 reals for per noite for a stunner from Emporio Banho. All holes included, sin condom and CIP. I felt I got the short end of the stick, because Vagabundo says he pays 400 reals for his per noite. I met a beauty at Perola Negra and she came over for 4 hours everything included was 500 reals. Whenever I travel anywhere nowadays, and met beautiful women, once I hear their prices, I immediately use Brazil as my measuring gauge. I will convert and think of how many stunners and wonderful session I can get in Rio. That makes me pause and rethink.

    Still blown away thinking of how many top end escorts or sessions at Termas 3 k can get me. BTW you can tell you overpaid, if after 2 sessions, the girl cancelled on the third. Too each his own.

  8. #30062

    SA. Story Time

    Quote Originally Posted by TexaBroad  [View Original Post]
    Next time I think I will ask for one SA girl to spend a full 4 days with me perhaps and try and get a better price for that than 2 k or 3 k for a few hours. I understand both are expensive but really felt like they were worth it, especially the SA girl I saw at 3 k funnily enough.
    Yeah like others are saying your wild and crazy bro and didn't just overpaid, you got robbed.

    I met couple girls on SA, one wanted 600 r and spent several hours and went all the way; the other claimed she was a non pro and made it clear several times in writing didn't want money. Didn't bang her yet and she want a normal LT relationship, so we're just chatting. Many other offers were within 600-1000 r range which for short term 2-3 hrs but normally say ok when I counter at 500-600. I haven't met some of those yet since I only got 1 dick and they got to get in line LOL. Also I've met better looking girls in person or similar beauties in clubs / termas, etc where many also speak English / Spanish w better rates.

    So here's my main take on using apps in Brazil so far. Pros and cons:

    Pros: As a foreigner you'll be matched with many girls that speak English, Spanish. They're happy to connect with you just to practice their Eng and they're excited about it (nonpros). Everyone's experience may be diff as it depends on your pics, looks, age. Within a week I connected with more 50+ women on Bumble and Tinder alone, mostly non pros, and decided to only meet with the few that speak Eng or Spanish. That keeps me busy on cheesy dates since I like to smoke and drink, dance, do bullshit and just chill. Those are the good ones. SA here in Rio is 90% pros or SB with experience.

    Cons: For Tinder or Bumble here in Rio, girls you match with will bounce or even you will lose interest if you cannot communicate in Portuguese outside of a very select few. Especially if the girl is a true nonpro and trying to find romance, they won't date you to converse solely via Google translate. And lots of time will be wasted if you're here short term or just few days. Not worth it.

    For SA, being mainly pros, many many of them are scammers and that turned me away a bit. For ex one wouldn't tell me her exact town, claimed she lives in the country side about an HR away from Rio. We conversed a bit and we decided on meeting, we decided on no commitment, no pricing, and would only have dinner and decide later if there's a vibe. She then asked if ID pay her bus ticket, and that if it's late that evening to get a hotel for her or allow her to stay at my apt since doesn't travel late by bus. I said sure you'll be in the hands of a gentleman, no worries. She flirted and assured me that I'd love her and said likely we'll be doing "things".

    Then she sent me a bus ticket of 211 r, as the amount to reimburse; I replied sure. Then I thought about it and asked again, hey, what's the name of your town again? You never told me!! Each time she'd change the topic, then I noticed also that the receipt doesn't contain a date, name, etc. I immediately said to her, dear, I would only pay and reimburse that ticket if it shows your name, a date, and trip info like to and from destination, I'm not stupid!! You are clearly trying to scam me, also I've been in rio for a min and I know a 1 hour bus ride costs like 5-10 r, and put a huge laughing face to mock LOL. I'm always a nice guy unless you make me an ahole.

    She replied she didn't like that drama and said lets cancel. I replied oh yeah I already did. So it seems it's actually her thing, meeting dumb and stupid gringos all day, sex or not she'll profit an easy 200 r for doing nothing since likely live near copacabana area. Many others use fake pics obviously, and was contacted by many others that pretended that they're far away and want travel money. Yes SA has scammers everywhere, but I have used it in the US and few other countries especially Col, and the level of sharpness of the girls in Rio seem to be on a different level. They're smarter and smoother. Bottom line I used it for fun since already had a paid membership when arrived from Col, however there arent as many users as Col and also there are many venues / clubs here to meet quality women. Final verdict is using apps here is only good if your bored, working at home some days and want to chat while you're busy to kill time. It works also if you're rich, not too bright or shy in person and willing to pay 5 x the going rate.

  9. #30061

    Btw

    If you want to see what these onlyfans or privacy girl will do or how they look go on simpcity. If they are popular, most likely you can find their leak video.

  10. #30060
    Quote Originally Posted by Bravo  [View Original Post]
    What the fuck has happened to my beloved Rio de Janeiro. From guys making it rain, to mongers paying 3-6 thousand Reais for 3 hours? I swear there should be a test before mongers are given a visa to fly to brasil! Glad you had a good time, but jeez you spent wayyyyyy more than you needed to. Please hook up with some vets before your next trip!
    3-6 K for 3 hours is ridiculous. I normally get girl from 4 x4 or other termas to spend 4 or 5 hours with me for 1 K. I never pay one Reai more than that. This time I'm in contact with an Onlyfans girl I found on Twitter, she want 2 K for 5 hours. I will go to Brazil next week, I'm still debating if I should agree to this or not. She do video chat for 10 reai per minute. I guess there are guy in the US who will pay for it. Hahhaha. What do you guy think?

  11. #30059

    Brazil ATM withdrawal

    OK. I will be going to Rio soon, with 4 different cards. Capital one 360 master card, Schwab visa, Wise MC and revolut visa. If none of it work, I will ask my Brazilian friend to help me out. But I don't like asking people for help. From reading the link below, it seem Brazil don't want people to come to their country and spend money. The rest of the world love tourist.

    https://www.expat.com/forum/viewtopic.php?id=1063282

    Any of you have any success using USA debit card at the ATM within the past 6 months?

  12. #30058
    Quote Originally Posted by Bravo  [View Original Post]
    What the fuck has happened to my beloved Rio de Janeiro. From guys making it rain, to mongers paying 3-6 thousand Reais for 3 hours?
    LOL. Me and my girlfriend were just in Jericoacoara and "Fortalazy" from Tuesday to Sunday. I did not spend that much money for the entire trip, including her plane ticket from Recife and the rental car. If a chick in Brazil told me to pay that much to fuck one time, I would think I was on one of those shows like Punk'd. It just can not be real. I can't help but to figure 15 years ago in the 1. 52 days 3,000 reais would have been US $2,000! 3000 reais is still 3000 reais though no matter how you convert it.
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  13. #30057

    Ditto

    Quote Originally Posted by Bravo  [View Original Post]
    What the fuck has happened to my beloved Rio de Janeiro. From guys making it rain, to mongers paying 3-6 thousand Reais for 3 hours? I swear there should be a test before mongers are given a visa to fly to brasil! Glad you had a good time, but jeez you spent wayyyyyy more than you needed to. Please hook up with some vets before your next trip!
    Can't believe someone paid 6,000 Reais for a session like that. Totally outrageous and unnecessary. One can pay less for better service. Way less! GFE or PSE or whatever. Geez! I tend not to comment on what guys pay but when I saw that had to gasp WTF? Really? That's not what a seasoned monger does. That's just what a horny guy with money to blow does. And don't let him come back and tell us he's seasoned. He's not. Because his actions speak louder than any words to the contrary. Tute hit a payday windfall! And will then come back talking about what her last sugar daddy paid her. Yeah well, I'm not him! So you can get to stepping up out of here!

  14. #30056
    Yeah for that price you can pay the tuition of a muy thai negra for the nursing school on the bus to duque de caxis and have her swallow your loads and cum in her pussy for 3 years.

    Quote Originally Posted by Bravo  [View Original Post]
    What the fuck has happened to my beloved Rio de Janeiro. From guys making it rain, to mongers paying 3-6 thousand Reais for 3 hours? I swear there should be a test before mongers are given a visa to fly to brasil! Glad you had a good time, but jeez you spent wayyyyyy more than you needed to. Please hook up with some vets before your next trip!

  15. #30055

    I assume absolutely ZERO research was done before the trip?

    What the fuck has happened to my beloved Rio de Janeiro. From guys making it rain, to mongers paying 3-6 thousand Reais for 3 hours? I swear there should be a test before mongers are given a visa to fly to brasil! Glad you had a good time, but jeez you spent wayyyyyy more than you needed to. Please hook up with some vets before your next trip!

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