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  1. #30001
    Quote Originally Posted by Filho  [View Original Post]
    A question to the experienced Rio guys here: what do you do on a Sunday, when all the Termas are closed, the Prives too and none of you numbers are working? What is you suggestion for a good day time / early evening session?
    This is a good day to call a girl on one of the escort sites. If it's too early they may be at the beach or sleeping. But sometimes if they're on the beach they'll still come.

  2. #30000
    Quote Originally Posted by CCRider1008  [View Original Post]
    So is it better to target ...
    I did not mean that. I am suggesting a time that there are still a lot of people so you can stay outside to find the place. Staring is a tactic at MC to get man to pick a girl quickly.

  3. #29999
    Quote Originally Posted by Balboa  [View Original Post]
    I totally agree, for me anyway.

    Other avenues to relax and clear the mind besides mongering, most especially when being somewhere for a lengthy period.
    Train bjj or krav maga.

  4. #29998
    When you get into town. Calibrate your dick to CPF of 75 r (two fucks in a 1 hour session for 150 r) at a centro prive with a few top rated girls from the local board. Then, if later, you decide to negotiate up from there, at least you are adjusting off of local best pricing.

    https://gparena.net/tds-areas.php?a=2

    And use the same site for picking termas.

    Personally, I like rua conceciao 116, the formerly secret terma. For the price of entrada at 4 x4 you can do 30 minutes with a girl. Yes, it is dark, dingy, smoke filled, but it is safe -- most of the clientele are navy enlisted poor (by our western standards) guys from the local navy base. But many of the girls are hot af, and some are from 4 x4, sick of pretending to like speaking english with passport bros who are overpaying, kkk.

    Quote Originally Posted by BallsDeep1980  [View Original Post]
    Which termas and which prives? I have only been to centaurus, Solarium, and Marrakesh. I've also been to Eden Spa a few times and have met a few girls on seeking. I liked Centaraus the most, and the girls from seeking werent too bad. The cheapest was Eden Spa and the place is pretty much trash imo.

  5. #29997

    Prive

    Sorry for the newbie question but what is a Prive?

    Quote Originally Posted by Xpartan  [View Original Post]
    Well, you can still talk to your buds about these unicorn $10 pussies, but you won't find them in real life. Granted it's been years since I last ventured into those paradisiacal urine-stench alleys of VM, but even then a 30-minute session would set you back $16-20, and I doubt it's gotten cheaper since then.

    Trash venues are only cheap up to a point. If you're OK with a 30-minute humping in despicable conditions, sure you can save loads of money. But if you want to take your sweet time, that's going to start costing more very quickly, and if you're -- god forbid -- not inclined to have sex in the same sweat- and jizz-soaked sheets used by generations of johns and hookers before you, then we're looking into the same 200-300 reals territory of a relatively decent prive. So what's the point again?

    Of course, if you're in Rio for weeks or months, then sure, go to trash prives and collect numbers. But it's still going to cost you way more than $10. Otherwise, I wouldn't bother unless out of curiosity.

  6. #29996
    Quote Originally Posted by Turgid  [View Original Post]
    Fake hooker: "Hey, you wanna have a good time?"

    Monger: "Are you an undercover cop?"

    Fake hooker: "No darling, come let me relieve some of that stress you seem to be under".

    Monger: "How much?"

    Fake hooker "You're under arrest". Slaps on handcuff.

    Love American Style.
    From https://www.feldmanroyle.com/sex-crimes/prostitution/.

    "Do Undercover Cops Have To Tell You?

    It is a common misconception that undercover cops have to tell you that they are police, if asked directly. However, under US law, police officers are permitted to lie and mislead suspects. Therefore, if you hope to differentiate an undercover cop from a prostitute, simply asking will not work.

    How To Tell If Its A Prostitution Sting.

    The bottom line is that there is no definitive way to tell if it's a prostitution sting. That said, undercover law enforcement will normally get straight to negotiations as they should not engage in any sex acts. Commonly, undercover cops will work quickly to encourage a suspect to state clearly their intentions to pay a certain sum of money for a specific sex act."

    Seems best to just say "Yes, I want to have a good time. Let's go" and don't talk about money. It is not illegal to pick up some one for unpaid sex, so what could they arrest you for? I doubt she would go with you if she is a cop, but it would presumably be entrapment if she brought up money, so she would probably just refuse to go with you.

  7. #29995

    100%

    Quote Originally Posted by Vagabundo1

    If you're going to be here for a period longer than a few weeks, and you should, then it is impertative to tie into non mongering groups like sports or education. The mongering life by itself is toxic, like pure alcohol, which will poison you if taken unadulterated.
    No one liles to discuss sad topics incl myself, but what you mentioned is very urgent. On few forums and other articles we're reading gringos falling to their deaths assuming suicides. Depression is no joke. If in your 30's or 40's this almost doesn't apply specially if you're still working and keeping busy. The idea is to have a purpose.

    DR and Thailand are the best places for 60+ mongers since those women don't have an issue to have a real relationship with you, like living together. Much harder to find that in Col or Bra since they're more sophisticated with arrogance and pride. You'll be taking care of the entire families in places where you find it but could be a fair exchange.

    There are some expats group I've found in Bra and haven't joined them yet, but those are very active in Col like 100 k users via many groups where you meet with locals on certain nights for dancing class, language exchange, etc. These activities are super important. Even joining a gym or hiking group.

  8. #29994

    All good

    Quote Originally Posted by Bravo  [View Original Post]
    Dude, you couldn't be more wrong. There is no such thing as "Ask an undercover cop if they are a police officer, and they must tell the truth". That is complete bullshit! Police officers lie 24/7.
    It's OK bud. Couple of you misunderstood.

    I didn't write that on behalf of you the client being safe from that. The hooker will ask you when you call if you're a cop. Undercover cops don't have to answer and if they lied charges on that sex worker will be dropped on the basis of entrapment. Laws maybe diff in FL vs other states.

    So all I wrote was if in her ad she says no cops should contact her, or she asks that herself, it's a sign that she herself is real. I wouldn't dare implying this is the same for all undercover work, strictly talking about how our hawkers get charges dropped back home.

    Anyhow, I only brought that up in this price / cpf discussion to highlight that mongers don't truly travel out of the US due to high cost, but mainly for the stupid laws that will get you jailed.

    Canada's even worse. Legal for the girls to sell sex, but illegal for the gents to buy it LOL. Yeah, exactly. Makes zero sense and a total trap LOL.

    Cost is by far the least issue as to why most of us travel. When locals or Airbnb hosts are trying to sell me on their beaches, I reply that I've lived near many my whole life. Then in my head thinking. Where the fuck are the cheap brothels in your area? That's what I want to know.

    Back to fucking in Rio for now.

  9. #29993
    Quote Originally Posted by Vagabundo1  [View Original Post]

    If you're going to be here for a period longer than a few weeks, and you should, then it is impertative to tie into non mongering groups like sports or education. The mongering life by itself is toxic, like pure alcohol, which will poison you if taken unadulterated.
    I totally agree, for me anyway.

    Other avenues to relax and clear the mind besides mongering, most especially when being somewhere for a lengthy period.

  10. #29992
    Quote Originally Posted by MaddTraveler  [View Original Post]
    ...... Also will ask you if you're a cop, and legally no charges can be filled if a real cop lies. When you live in the US and want P4 P you must know these tricks unfortunately.
    Fake hooker: "Hey, you wanna have a good time?"

    Monger: "Are you an undercover cop?"

    Fake hooker: "No darling, come let me relieve some of that stress you seem to be under".

    Monger: "How much?"

    Fake hooker "You're under arrest". Slaps on handcuff.

    Love American Style.

  11. #29991
    Quote Originally Posted by Nounce  [View Original Post]
    4 x4 is not a place to go too late. The girls work in shifts. If you are concerned about safety, go around 5 or 6 when there are still a lot of working people. I remember this is the time shift changes. The girls that start the shift may take another hour to prepare themselves before actually showing up in the club area.
    So is it better to target end of shift girls at 4 pm versus beginning shift girls at 6 pm? Shiny said he went to Monte Carol at 4 pm and was the only one in the terma, and 8 girls stood around looking at him. WTF. I don't understand. I would think all 8 would immediately be on him to make money. What am I missing?

  12. #29990

    Ethnicity can matter in price

    To be honest I live in Seattle and some Latino women charge $300 for full rushed service! . It's very rare that you'll find one that charges $150 for full service and if she does more than likely she's on drugs bad. Houston Tx used to be a $150 spot for Latino action now the price is $200's! I visit Mexico every month and the prices are literally gringo like hell $150-200! I am not a big fan of those rates!

    Quote Originally Posted by Kazeu  [View Original Post]
    I find it hard to believe you are getting 200 usd cpf in miami, Florida. It may be possible but I doubt the quality of a 200 usd girl in miami is the same as a 1000 r brazilian in rio. I'm happy to be corrected on this.

  13. #29989
    Quote Originally Posted by Vagabundo1  [View Original Post]
    In terms of CPF (Cost Per Fuck), the sweet spot has been centro prives and trash termas.

    The CPF is 150 r or 30 r USD. Alot of the best prive girls are as good as the terma girls, but they just don't want to work at night.

    We are now in and will be for the next 6 months, the best time IMHO.

    Just last night / this morning, Vagabundo had a pornstar from sao paulo over pernoite. On the plus side, she is a porn star, and we fucked, and she actually cleaned, did like a awesome job cleaning, and I only payed her 300 r for overnight. One the downside, she only fucked once as opposed to the minimum 2 and as many as 5 times I fuck with my regulars. We watched Dom again and Cidade de deus and Tropa de elite so I could pacify her Brazilian ears with some portoguese. Anyway, she used to work at a SP Clinica, then got wifed up by one of the owners, and now she doesn't have that relationship, which was predictable.

    On the downside too, is the fuck was too fast, bureaucratic, covered, and the experience has me thinking how bad a biz and life porn is. The prives are actually a source of hot new girls and much, much, much better sex.

    Well, and on VM, I did go there last Sunday as a bunch of new in town ISGers were looking for a Sunday fuck, and I met up with an ISGer at VM. We did a quick circle on the you, and I found Monique, and we fucked covered and the cost was 115 r, which is a substantial rise from the usual 70 r or 80 r before. Maybe I got gringothe? Anyway VM really does suck. We did go up to the 'suite'which was bigger. She brought a sheet, but the room was filled with beer bottles and condoms. With prives you get a clean room. But it is what it is.

    If you're going to be here for a period longer than a few weeks, and you should, then it is impertative to tie into non mongering groups like sports or education. The mongering life by itself is toxic, like pure alcohol, which will poison you if taken unadulterated.
    Which termas and which prives? I have only been to centaurus, Solarium, and Marrakesh. I've also been to Eden Spa a few times and have met a few girls on seeking. I liked Centaraus the most, and the girls from seeking werent too bad. The cheapest was Eden Spa and the place is pretty much trash imo.

  14. #29988
    Quote Originally Posted by MaddTraveler  [View Original Post]
    Also will ask you if you're a cop, and legally no charges can be filled if a real cop lies. When you live in the US and want P4 P you must know these tricks unfortunately.
    Dude, you couldn't be more wrong. There is no such thing as "Ask an undercover cop if they are a police officer, and they must tell the truth". That is complete bullshit! Police officers lie 24/7.

  15. #29987
    Because of shinycrazys recommendation I went to Eden Spa yesterday. I did not like any of the girls so they sent me down to the other place. Also there, not for my taste. Except for Ester, a big mulata with a nice ass. She looked a bit like Naomi Campbell with very light skin. Unfortunately she also had her attitude, so service was so so. Still I enjoyed it. She is already a bit on the hardened hooker side, but if you like these looks, it might be worth a try. I would rate her a 6, face maybe even 7.

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