Rio de Janeiro Reports

[Jan 156]

I let it be known as soon as I stepped foot in the place. When I came around the corner, the manager was standing right there. I immediately said "I hope you guys got your computer fixed. You guys are getting bad reputation on the internet for adding drinks to american's bills and them forcing them to pay when they leave! Did you resolve that problems yet?"

He just looked at me and said "oh yes, yes! We took care of that, that doesnt happen anymore!"

Great tactics. Pre-empting any aggro. Bitching afterwards has rarely got me anywhere. I´d like to think it was accidental - I would always suggest it was - as you did - so they can save face as well as ´correct´it. I love the expression on guys faces when they are adding up bills - often putting little numbers in a box on a big sheet. Creative stuff - a bit like sudoko only with many more than one right answer . . .

Treat it as a game. One you gonna win but without ripping the other guy´s throat out. The object is to get your money´s worth and a fair deal - not spill blood lol. He´s probably just been told to get away with it if he can, but not to the extent of pissing people off. If people act pissed off big time afterwards there´s not exactly that much to gain by giving them money back.

[Bravo]

I don't think they do it on purpose. That would be bad for business. They argue with you because the system is automated so how can there be a mistake. LOL. Also because guys get drunk and forget what they did. But definitely check carefully because mistakes do happen. And if you are sure, stay calm but stand your ground.

Some places could care less if you complain. I remember about 2 years ago MC had a big problem with drinks being on monger's bills. They had bills where they supposedly ordered 10 red bulls and vodka or 10 tequilas. When the guy would b*tched up a storm, they would knock like 3 drinks off the bill!!!


I let it be known as soon as I stepped foot in the place. When I came around the corner, the manager was standing right there. I immediately said "I hope you guys got your computer fixed. You guys are getting bad reputation on the internet for adding drinks to american's bills and them forcing them to pay when they leave! Did you resolve that problems yet?"

He just looked at me and said "oh yes, yes! We took care of that, that doesnt happen anymore!" One of the few times that mentioning the internet worked out for me.

[SlimHoleDrill]

Check always your bill, you can find not nice surprise and when they correct it immediately and they say nothing, it is clear they plan in advance to fuck you, cause most of gringos pay without check the bill and they know it....

I don't think they do it on purpose. That would be bad for business. They argue with you because the system is automated so how can there be a mistake. LOL. Also because guys get drunk and forget what they did. But definitely check carefully because mistakes do happen. And if you are sure, stay calm but stand your ground.

[SlimHoleDrill]

SlimHoleDrill,

I was here exactly one year ago and despite the prices a lot changed.

Girls that ask how is in the other termas and if the girls there work is nothing never happens to me last year.

I think girls and not me or us, are depressing.

My idea of terma is where girls make me come alive, cause I pay them, not they me.

Actually i do not need to somebody makes me come alive, but I do not need boring girls with crossed arms around me at these prices only because they have pussy, I do not need pussy to live and even less I need terma with so low vibe.




Delecti,

I agree, but yesterday was my third times in 10 days at luomo, the other two times it was pretty dead, yesterday they was lucky, as with the other places closed all the customers met in only one terma, from today it will be different again at luomo as the few customers, much less than one year before, will spread out in all the termas.

Hey, no problem. It's all just IMHO. YMMV. If you make visits to Rio, you will undoubtedly find conditions different, sometimes better for you, sometimes worse. Sorry it seems not to be working very well for you this time. It can be pretty frustrating if your time is limited and your expectations are not being fulfilled. If you like company you can try 22. But it is down market and usually not (m)any gringos. There should be other guys hanging around so that the place is 'rocking' as much as it ever is. On th other end of the economic scale, probably Centauras will have some activity.

Anyway, the girls always complain when it gets slow. I was only sharing one way to deal with that. I personally don't like it so much when the places are packed. But a moderate amount of activity is nice. I have decided I have no control over this aspect and that I will have fun regardless. To each his own. And as I said, it's all IMHO and YMMV.

[Flexinbk]

Check always your bill, you can find not nice surprise and when they correct it immediately and they say nothing, it is clear they plan in advance to fuck you, cause most of gringos pay without check the bill and they know it....

Tell me about it, receptionist got mad at me when I pointed out my bill was incorrect several times, had to call the manager because she couldn't figure it out. Here's a thought, if they try to pad your bill, dispute some of the legitimate charges, maybe that will cause them to have second thoughts about adding some extra stuff.

[Eros74]

Check always your bill, you can find not nice surprise and when they correct it immediately and they say nothing, it is clear they plan in advance to fuck you, cause most of gringos pay without check the bill and they know it....

[Jamaicanceo]

look, nothing has changed in the ternas (except prices). you just need to understand rio. this is jan. and a lot of people in rio go on vacation. i reckon that most of the people in termas either live in rio or come there on business. when people are on vacation, you can't have meetings so business travel to rio between dec. and canaval is always way down. no offense to the people on this board, but i just don't think the number of sex tourists is that big in the termas. help was another story.

let me assure you, there are still beautiful girls in the termas with even more beautiful attitudes. if you can't have fun in a quiet terma, try a little harder. think about your job. do you like it when nothing is happening? same with the girls, so go in and make it happen. they will love you for it.

as an example, i went to l during a big futball match and i was the only guy in the place. the girls were sitting around, legs draped on each other, cuddling like a bunch of cats. almost licking each other. for the first time i understood where 'cat house' came from. i spied a couple of new faces, ordered a bottle of wine and sat between them. they immediately warmed up and came alive. i shared the wine, bought a few drinks and i was king of the hill. i had an excptional session and when i came back out, after a few minutes i was double teamed by carolina and someone else i forget and they wanted tequila shots. how could i resist?

up to you but a quiet terma can be a blast.

i am sure the economy and higher prices also have an effect but people will get used to it.

i agree with you slim. but when i was a young salesman, i was only good as my last sale. if you're selling tires and people are walking into the shop and there are more ambitious salesman than i then he will get the sale. however, if a customer walls into the business and no on approaches and makes him comfortable until some one is able to service him then he will leave and go where they want his business. terma girls are selling sex, so they need to act like they want a customer to spend their money. i'm not going to kiss someone's ass and pay too. with that attitude a salesman will starve, and the same for gdp.

[Papae Noel]

On the LatinEuro site, select BR1328 and there is a pic of a girl inside Help, I believe. Slimtower says it's definitely inside Help. Anyone know her?

I posted the link in a previous post - now that link takes you to a different girl.

[Jan 156]

Conc.132 Niteroi

20R entrance inc 4 choppe
1hr 190R.
Offered A enthusiastically without it being requested. Opening time last Tuesday was 8pm, a little later than I remember it before. I asked what time they shut - no fixed time, but maybe around 2am. Rooms not as cold as 4x4. Optional lockers and normal clothes in the lounges/bars/dance area. She got a bit aggreived that I wasn´t too bothered about accepting her phone number so I took it anyway.

[Jan 156]

As to Non-Pros: A friend with NO Portuguese and first time in Brasil, but no lack of courage, has been walking up to and talking to girls in the street all the time. A couple of joggers, a girl looking in a store window, etc. Of about 10, only one wouldn't talk to him and give him a telephone number. We'll see how well the later rendezvous work, but surely suggests that a measure of confidence (translated: no fear of rejection) is the most important ingredient in meeting girls on the street. Oh, and these were clerks, accountant, female taxi driver, etc. Not GDP, or at least not full time.

My wingman used to do this, he was brilliant at it. We would mostly work the subways and the street but also Maracana. He had zero Porto as well but many of the educated girls would know a smattering of English. When he ran out of chat I´d take over and vice versa. We used to challenge each other to chat up the most attractive, non-chat-up-able girls we could see. We mostly got phone numbers, never an outright rejection.

Another tactic is similar to the one mentioned by Lukasek - we´d pay them into a nightclub. Not just to collect phone numbers - but to use them as bait. Especially good if they are very hot looking but maybe not up for it the first night. Then we´d put them in a taxi and go back in the club.

[John Cricket]

Meia Pattaca: Empty most of yesterday. I haven't eaten there for years, but I always rent an apartment near by. At 2 p.m., (14:00) there was not one customer there, but 6 waiters in white standing around. In the evening, a couple of Brazilian families eating a late dinner. Not one GDP or potential customer. Clearly the days of this location as "Meia Putteria" are over. (Is Hooker Beach next on the death knoll?).

Well, it WAS a holiday, after all, and a lot of people headed for the hills.

[Eros74]

Look, nothing has changed in the ternas (except prices)...

Let me assure you, there are still beautiful girls in the termas with even more beautiful attitudes.,,,so go in and make it happen. They will love you for it.

I spied a couple of new faces, ordered a bottle of wine and sat between them. They immediately warmed up and came alive....

SlimHoleDrill,

I was here exactly one year ago and despite the prices a lot changed.

Girls that ask how is in the other termas and if the girls there work is nothing never happens to me last year.

I think girls and not me or us, are depressing.

My idea of terma is where girls make me come alive, cause I pay them, not they me.

Actually i do not need to somebody makes me come alive, but I do not need boring girls with crossed arms around me at these prices only because they have pussy, I do not need pussy to live and even less I need terma with so low vibe.

...Still a slow night, but the girls were friendly and fun. A smile and a fun attitude and the place comes alive....

Delecti,

I agree, but yesterday was my third times in 10 days at luomo, the other two times it was pretty dead, yesterday they was lucky, as with the other places closed all the customers met in only one terma, from today it will be different again at luomo as the few customers, much less than one year before, will spread out in all the termas.

[Delecti]

Just a couple of observations:

Meia Pattaca: Empty most of yesterday. I haven't eaten there for years, but I always rent an apartment near by. At 2 p.m., (14:00) there was not one customer there, but 6 waiters in white standing around. In the evening, a couple of Brazilian families eating a late dinner. Not one GDP or potential customer. Clearly the days of this location as "Meia Putteria" are over. (Is Hooker Beach next on the death knoll?)

Loumo: Was open yesterday, despite the religious holiday. Apparently, based upon conversation with other guys, everywhere else was closed, ie: MC, Centaurus, etc. Talked to Bia who said that she believes that the American tourist volume is way down, mostly due to the devaluation of the dollar compared to the real. Same thing for most of Europe, except for the Italians. (Don't know why it wouldn't effect them, thought they used Euro's too!) Still a slow night, but the girls were friendly and fun. A smile and a fun attitude and the place comes alive. If you sit there quietly and don't interact, it could be pretty dull.

As to Non-Pros: A friend with NO Portuguese and first time in Brasil, but no lack of courage, has been walking up to and talking to girls in the street all the time. A couple of joggers, a girl looking in a store window, etc. Of about 10, only one wouldn't talk to him and give him a telephone number. We'll see how well the later rendezvous work, but surely suggests that a measure of confidence (translated: no fear of rejection) is the most important ingredient in meeting girls on the street. Oh, and these were clerks, accountant, female taxi driver, etc. Not GDP, or at least not full time.

[SlimHoleDrill]

look, nothing has changed in the ternas (except prices). you just need to understand rio. this is jan. and a lot of people in rio go on vacation. i reckon that most of the people in termas either live in rio or come there on business. when people are on vacation, you can't have meetings so business travel to rio between dec. and canaval is always way down. no offense to the people on this board, but i just don't think the number of sex tourists is that big in the termas. help was another story.

let me assure you, there are still beautiful girls in the termas with even more beautiful attitudes. if you can't have fun in a quiet terma, try a little harder. think about your job. do you like it when nothing is happening? same with the girls, so go in and make it happen. they will love you for it.

as an example, i went to l during a big futball match and i was the only guy in the place. the girls were sitting around, legs draped on each other, cuddling like a bunch of cats. almost licking each other. for the first time i understood where 'cat house' came from. i spied a couple of new faces, ordered a bottle of wine and sat between them. they immediately warmed up and came alive. i shared the wine, bought a few drinks and i was king of the hill. i had an excptional session and when i came back out, after a few minutes i was double teamed by carolina and someone else i forget and they wanted tequila shots. how could i resist?

up to you but a quiet terma can be a blast.

i am sure the economy and higher prices also have an effect but people will get used to it.

[Phunluv]

A Brazilian asked me today why Help was so unique? I told him the truth. Guys who didn't have a prayer of scoring with women in their own country could come to Rio pretend they were in a regular nightclub and leave with a woman who would never have given them the time of day back home. Even if the economy improves, I do not think guys will come to Rio just to have sex. It was the fantasy they were after (and got). Hanging outside of Balcony just doesn't have the same feel. TA was big enough that guys could still get that fantasy feeling.

Well, I can't speak for other guys but from what I saw in front of Help and inside it, you'd have to be pretty delusional to able to "pretend they were in a regular nightclub."

I would be the first to admit that I'm no Don Juan but it seemed to me most of the guys there also didn't think it was their looks and charms that was convincing the girls to go off with them, LOL!

Fantasy is nice, I like fantasy. But I also like reality. Particularly the reality of a good sex session at a reasonable price with a young pretty girl (who's a bit poor and needs my money) with little bullshit and courtship involved. I really like that reality!

Was at MC this afternoon/evening and there were about 50 girls wondering where their next meal was coming from. It was so quiet you could hear a G-String drop.

Now that's a hilarious line!

The termas has that same fantasy feel. Going into a bar and having sex with any girl there.

I do agree with you here that the termas is more like a fantasy world. It's a lot of fun and I enjoy it, but you've got to be crazy to think these girls really feel anything for you once you step out of the venue. Heck, the notion of one of these chicks "falling for me" scares me more than lifts my ego!