Rio de Janeiro Reports

[Vagabundo1]

116, formerly the secret terma, was a fav of fukafmedig, who came here a few times in 2020.

It was a fave because it always had a top 10% of girls who were porn star quality, as did T31, one of the go to dark side termas, not very far away.

We chatted about it here as the secret terma, then the board members who haven't been here for 2 years, with extra time on their hands figured out it was boate 116.

Why go there?

4 x 4 has a pricing structure of 400+ for an hour, and 116 has a structure of 120 for an hour.

If you are in town for a week, maybe it doesn't make a difference.

If you are in town for a month, it starts to make a difference.

The real sweet spot, IMHO, is not 116 and VM, but rather mosaico.

Mosaico after midnight is a really good option; Paris too really only gets going at or after 23 h.

4 x 4 in point of fact is not open 7 days. But I guess you mean tier 1 termas, maybe you mean solarium and Perola negra and Paris.

I always go back to bubba boy, who basically wrote that he likes the 116 class places, and that he got most of his P4 p sex at those places at 33% or 50% of the cost of the 4 x4 places.

He got numbers at 4 x 4, but got most of his sex at the prives or the "trash" casas.

You get guys coming into town, who have their faces buried in their phones because they are helpless without google translate to communicate, much less their other apps for transportation, etc. 4 x4 is your place. No smoking, better ventilation. Good wi fi so you can actually communicate, after a fashion. But my point is that it is not really communication if you are handing a cell phone back and forth.

One other thing about 116. It is not just negras, though the best negra IMHO is there. It is the morenas, the morena claras, the real latina bundinha (no bunda, and definitely not bundao) who are in 116. You can "trash" 116 for whatever reasons you have, but the best Latinas are in 116. You won't do well with them if your "game" is handing a cell phone back and forth to "talk". It is a little bit harder, and in that slight degree of difficulty, I find the art. Just as in the same way I know I could go to a zoo and shoot a big game animal, I find going to 4 x 4 boring as f. I go mainly because I like hanging out with fellow gringos.

So there it is.

Oh, and why go to VM? Because it is steps from Mosaico. You must go to Mosaico, IMHO. The best girls always come from Mosaico. That's just a simple fact. It is where cariocas go to fuck cariocas. As I said, the effing DJ from 4 x 4 went to Mosaico on Monday night after work to find a girl for him and / or his friend to fuck. Enough said.

[TjBrazil]

You can't trust most Brazilian men because number one they are jealous of us. We have plenty expendable income and they don't.

Also, they hate that we go over there and bang all their women. All they do is grab ass and we actually go to the room. I find the Brazilian women love us for that. They want to make money.

Bottom line is the more info you give them about yourself the higher chance they use it against you. Never tell them you stay at a apartment and never tell them the real hotel you're at. Give them a fake job, fake hotel and you are a Uber driver or work as a waiter. It's served me well. Robbing your apartment is easy. Pay off the doorman and they are in when you go to the beach. I met people that had their apt wiped out. Laptops phones money. Everything. And that was when the economy was better for them. Now they are starving since the pandemic.

[Gabriel071]

Saturday 00:00 report.

After a nice dinner I took an uber to 116 and it looked like they were closed. The business next door downstairs was the only one that appeared open, and the area seemed sketchy so I left.

Mosaic on the other hand was jam packed and loud! People overflowing into the streets and sidewalk. I did not like that environment so I left immediately but you can tell that this is the place to be if this is your scene.

Dry dick and blue balls for me tonight. Better hope Sunday.

[Gabriel071]

116 girls do go outside.

Excellent news. I will invest more time in 116. Both girls I saw did not seem to have cellphones so I thought maybe they live at 116.

I forgot to ask if they are open on weekends. Guess I will find out shortly as I will swing by now at Saturday 2330. Having a late dinner in.

Sa ya Teresa. Sick of the Copacabana tourist crowd on weekends.

[Gabriel071]

I still can't wrap my head around why people go to the greatest hooker destination in the world and want to bottom feed in places like VM and 116. I rather go to 4 x 4 every night for 7 nights than step foot in VM and 116.

I can answer that one.

The reason I prefer normal / everyday girls is the same realm I watch amateur porn and of PSE pornstar porn. It seems more natural, real, IOP than fake breasts, overdone makeup and stripping. Again, just a matter of taste. I feel more comfortable with everyday girls that are still good looking and good service but just don't look like they are career women. I tend to find that in mod market level both at home and abroad.

Great Joy is to be had when you found a unicorn.

Great sorrows to be had when you overpaid for plastic pussy.

I'm not looking for bottom feeders, at least not in my mind. I'm looking for "amateur" pussy.

[Vagabundo1]

116 girls do go outside.

Glad to hear VM-style talent is available at 116, and perhaps that is all the reason I need to avoid VM for now. I do like everyday women like 116, and love the price and ease of access. I just wish the offerings were cleaner. Do you think a 116 girl would be willing to travel outside of 116?

As to 4 x 4 and mosaico, they are on my list hut I can already tell it's not my style. I've been to so. Iload establishments before and never seem to have a good time no matter how attractive the women or services. Not really into PSE or OSS-style women or services. I am an oddity in our mongering culture.

My true preference, if I had it my way, is to find a civilian but that's not happening with my lack of Portuguese language. I am anchored to my phone for translation and have tried this before in other countries but it never works out well. Lesson learned for next time I come to Rio or any nation. Learn the language or at least enough to speak to a girl.

[TjBrazil]

I still can't wrap my head around why people go to the greatest hooker destination in the world and want to bottom feed in places like VM and 116. I rather go to 4 x 4 every night for 7 nights than step foot in VM and 116.

[Gabriel071]

116 v VM, 116 v 4 x 4 - good questions.

Yes, at night 116 has better selection.

My pro forma day, if I had just one day in Rio would be:

12 h30 - meet at cinelandia starbucks, go to VM (by metro, go to sao cristovao station).

In the afternoon, after maybe fucking at VM, go to centro prives.

After fucking establishing a CPF (cost per fuck) of 75 reais per half hour at VM or a prive, then go to.

116 (opens at 15 h) (no cover). 116 is basically same quality as VM, but a little better. Talent crosses over. That means the same girls who work at VM work at 116.

Then go to 4 x 4 (50 r cover). This is tier 1. Often, you will find a VM girl who is top 5% who will be in 4 x4 a week later. A negra named Ivy now at bel prazer, is a example.

After 4 x 4, then go to:.

Glad to hear VM-style talent is available at 116, and perhaps that is all the reason I need to avoid VM for now. I do like everyday women like 116, and love the price and ease of access. I just wish the offerings were cleaner. Do you think a 116 girl would be willing to travel outside of 116?

As to 4 x 4 and mosaico, they are on my list hut I can already tell it's not my style. I've been to so. Iload establishments before and never seem to have a good time no matter how attractive the women or services. Not really into PSE or OSS-style women or services. I am an oddity in our mongering culture.

My true preference, if I had it my way, is to find a civilian but that's not happening with my lack of Portuguese language. I am anchored to my phone for translation and have tried this before in other countries but it never works out well. Lesson learned for next time I come to Rio or any nation. Learn the language or at least enough to speak to a girl.

[Gabriel071]

Guess we each have our own idea of paradise.

Indeed everyone has their own tastes and they cna change like the weather. I generally prefer thin Negras with small tits and small ass. Rio may not be for me in that regard! But I am all about variety and have experienced women I would either not normally pursue or have access to back home. The HDH BBFS Independant I have in my rotation is not normally my style but she has the "Rio" branding to her body composition, and she gives me BBFS with a nice pussy. I just wish she'd lay off the spermicide or warn me about it before going down on her.

[HoyaDay]

Lots of hotties. Wasn't sure it was worth them hype when I went on Thursday but it lived up to it on Friday. They close on the weekend so all the girls ask to go out with you average charging $500 r for 1 HR.

[Exec Talent]

VB so you're suggesting to go to 116 at night for better selection? It seems like this place won't take much more people to get packed inside.

I went back today (Friday afternoon) and saw a different girl: got my BBFSCIP. However, the room we got did not have running water which is bad for cleanup. Hers and mine. I'll be returning in a few days to see her or another girl again. For now I think I need to get back to HDH BBFS girl to clean my palllete and enjoy a better environment, or maybe I'll give 4 x 4 a go. I checks spit 4 x 4 website and maybe it's just me but the girls don't look very good. It could just be a matter of taste. And what I've read on GPARENA, it seems pricy. More pricy than seeing a Copacabana independent.

How much different is VM than 116? Now having attended 116, I'm intrigued.

Guess we each have our own idea of paradise.

[Vagabundo1]

116 v VM, 116 v 4 x 4 - good questions.

Yes, at night 116 has better selection.

My pro forma day, if I had just one day in Rio would be:

12 h30 - meet at cinelandia starbucks, go to VM (by metro, go to sao cristovao station).

In the afternoon, after maybe fucking at VM, go to centro prives.

After fucking establishing a CPF (cost per fuck) of 75 reais per half hour at VM or a prive, then go to.

116 (opens at 15 h) (no cover). 116 is basically same quality as VM, but a little better. Talent crosses over. That means the same girls who work at VM work at 116.

Then go to 4 x 4 (50 r cover). This is tier 1. Often, you will find a VM girl who is top 5% who will be in 4 x4 a week later. A negra named Ivy now at bel prazer, is a example.

After 4 x 4, then go to:

116 (walk over, recon the route during day).

Mosaico / VM (after midnight is best).

As I have said if you are a veteran of a NATO country or Switzerland, Vagabundo will be your guide. We have a good crew of Swiss Navy veterans in town now, including a total of 3 operators.

You cannot judge 4 x4 from the website photos. Those fotos are not of actual 4 x 4 girls Go at 19 h and the top girls will do a strip tease dance, which is good.

You should go to mosaico night club, and go there during the day. You can take the 457 bus direct from copa to VM if you are a spartan sperto / vagabundo monger.

VB so you're suggesting to go to 116 at night for better selection? It seems like this place won't take much more people to get packed inside.

I went back today (Friday afternoon) and saw a different girl: got my BBFSCIP. However, the room we got did not have running water which is bad for cleanup. Hers and mine. I'll be returning in a few days to see her or another girl again. For now I think I need to get back to HDH BBFS girl to clean my palllete and enjoy a better environment, or maybe I'll give 4 x 4 a go. I checks spit 4 x 4 website and maybe it's just me but the girls don't look very good. It could just be a matter of taste. And what I've read on GPARENA, it seems pricy. More pricy than seeing a Copacabana independent.

How much different is VM than 116? Now having attended 116, I'm intrigued.

[Vagabundo1]

Yes, at night 116 has better selection.

My pro forma day, if I had just one day in Rio would be:

12 h30 - meet at cinelandia starbucks, go to VM (by metro, go to sao cristovao station).

In the afternoon, after maybe fucking at VM, go to centro prives.

After fucking establishing a CPF (cost per fuck) of 75 reais per half hour at VM or a prive, then go to.

116 (opens at 15 h) (no cover). 116 is basically same quality as VM, but a little better. Talent crosses over. That means the same girls who work at VM work at 116.

Then go to 4 x4 (50 r cover). This is tier 1. Often, you will find a VM girl who is top 5% who will be in 4 x4 a week later. A negra named Ivy now at bel prazer, is a example.

After 4 x 4, then go to:

116 (walk over, recon the route during day).

Mosaico / VM (after midnight is best).

As I have said if you are a veteran of a NATO country or switzerland, Vagabundo will be your guide. We have a good crew of Swiss Navy veterans in town now, including a total of 3 operators.

You cannot judge 4 x4 from the website photos. Those fotos are not of actual 4 x4 girls Go at 19 h and the top girls will do a strip tease dance, which is good.

You should go to mosaico night club, and go there during the day. You can take the 457 bus direct from copa to VM if you are a spartan sperto / vagabundo monger.

VB so you're suggesting to go to 116 at night for better selection? It seems like this place won't take much more people to get packed inside.

I went back today (Friday afternoon) and saw a different girl: got my BBFSCIP. However, the room we got did not have running water which is bad for cleanup. Hers and mine. I'll be returning in a few days to see her or another girl again. For now I think I need to get back to HDH BBFS girl to clean my palllete and enjoy a better environment, or maybe I'll give 4 x 4 a go. I checks spit 4 x 4 website and maybe it's just me but the girls don't look very good. It could just be a matter of taste. And what I've read on GPARENA, it seems pricy. More pricy than seeing a Copacabana independent.

How much different is VM than 116? Now having attended 116, I'm intrigued.

[Sperto]

I'm I'm Centro can't find any Pacheco or similar drugstores that do Covid testing. They say you have to go to a lab to get it done.

Rio have several farmacias in every block in Centro. Why do you need Pacheco to make a covid test? If you insist on Pacheco to make the test I think there is a site that shows all Pacheco farmácias in Centro, it's called Gurgle Maps or something similar.

How much different is VM than 116? Now having attended 116, I'm intrigued.

Club 116 isn't very different from VM. Just as VM, Club 116 is a Trash boate. It have been a trash boate for decades, but for some reason it got fame in this forum the last year.

I have no idea what BBFSCIP is, but if you have dome something at Club 116 without a condom you might need to look for a Pacheco just as HoyaDay.

[Gabriel071]

This is a fair review, both good and bad.

The bad is the appearance, and the ventilation. Going in looks like the opposite of the JW Marriott -- it is not friendly to Americans, Gringos, English speakers, and the White Man's Burden. Upstairs, everyone smokes. In contrast to 4 x4 where there is no smoking, it is not friendly to the average white dude from the States.

That said, if your goal is to fuck a hot young woman, then this is a must know, go to place before and after 4 x 4 etc. If you go at the afternoon before 5, you will get fewer girls in selection, and if you go after 4 x4 at 23 h, you will find many more hoars, and have a higher BBFS rate. In fact, there are super hot morenas. They do not have to fuck you, and many will blow you off because they have some regular who buys them cheap beers and cigarettes, but you will find Latinas and negras and mulatas of real porn star quality.

It is a good review, thanks.

VB so you're suggesting to go to 116 at night for better selection? It seems like this place won't take much more people to get packed inside.

I went back today (Friday afternoon) and saw a different girl: got my BBFSCIP. However, the room we got did not have running water which is bad for cleanup. Hers and mine. I'll be returning in a few days to see her or another girl again. For now I think I need to get back to HDH BBFS girl to clean my palllete and enjoy a better environment, or maybe I'll give 4 x 4 a go. I checks spit 4 x 4 website and maybe it's just me but the girls don't look very good. It could just be a matter of taste. And what I've read on GPARENA, it seems pricy. More pricy than seeing a Copacabana independent.

How much different is VM than 116? Now having attended 116, I'm intrigued.