Rio de Janeiro Reports

[Pahllus Maximus]

For the sake of yourself and everybody, get some tenofovir 300 MG for HIV protection (Gay men use it) and watch Hep see, or better still wear something that can delay a pop.

Syphilis is also a danger.

The alternative is Kazakhstan Gypsy tears in an amulet. I am so grateful Fox news put me onto the UFO / fake moon landing / CIA / 5 G conspiracy and along with Facebook enabled valuable theoretical breakthroughs that turns out were in the Pyramids but concealed by the Government, along with making gold and oil from water.

[Mr Enternational]

Every board complains about the same things. You have the cheapskates who always complain about how prices aren't like they used to be 25 years ago and ignore basic economics like inflation or the cost of living. People keep pointing to the average salary of workers in Brazil like that is what these girls should be charging. First off, the average standard living in Brazil would be considered living in poverty in the US.

The inflation argument would be done with a basket of goods. If the basket of goods has only gone up 20%, why would prostitution have gone up a whopping 500%? The USA has nothing to do with what is going on in Brazil. The average Brazilian male is not paying 1000 reais per night for a chick that would be in Mabs as a Mabs chick would attempt to charge a foreigner. The average salary of workers in Brazil matters because Brazilian men with Brazilian salaries are who their primary customers are. These men are not paying 1 month's salary to be with a chick the way some foreigners are coming along and paying that.

It is like locals have been fishing peacefully at a pond forever using fishing poles. Most foreigners will go down to the pond and fish the same way the locals are. Then comes a foreigner that decides he wants to fish with dynamite. Then another. Then another. Soon the locals change ponds and any other foreigner that comes to the old pond will have to bring dynamite or he is leaving fishless.

[Nounce]

Germany and the FKK scene seems to elide this rule, but perhaps could more represent the logic of a migratory labor force from the Balkans similar to the German phenomenon of the "Polish Plumber".

I think another reason is because it is an efficient operation so the girls can work more and make more money.

[SinfullyKorean]

Probably should replace one T65 line item with Termas Manhattan (formerly Cancun) it's also walking distance to 4 X4.

Thanks! Someone in SP forum mentioned T65 and I thought I didn't have it on my list. I've replaced with Manhattan/Cancun per your suggestion.

[SinfullyKorean]

This right here. At the end of the day, we are customers to these women. They need the money and we want to get laid.

This is probably the case for 99% of the audience here. There are your rare expats / locals who are playing the long game, getting laid for (almost) free. And if I were living there for more than a month, I'd probably be interested. But as a short term visitor, all I care about is getting a good lay. BB would be great, not a requirement. A requirement is finding a great GFE session that's not going to cost me an arm and a leg every session. It's also nice to know that bangable 10's are out there for a price (e.g. Scandallo and Centaurus). But it's also nice to know the other termas and clinicas offering much more budget friendly options.

As they say, different strokes for different folks.

[Nounce]

So, which customer do you think the girl likes better?

The conditions of your question is framed in a way that is bias toward a specific answer. I think VB1 will just say NEXT.

[The Cane]

This right here. At the end of the day, we are customers to these women. They need the money and we want to get laid.

There are always those mongers who start thinking and acting like they're something other than a client. But the hard reality is as you say. If you're paying her, then a customer you are. Granted, not all clients are going to be viewed and treated as equals in her eyes, but still any man who pays is a client nevertheless. Stop paying out the money, and make it clear that no more is forthcoming, and see what happens next. See how "special" you are then. She will be out of there faster than you can say Jack Robinson! In a New York minute!

[Anaggie]

And now since it is agreed that we are all customers, I would like to conduct a little thought experiment: Imagine a working girl, any working girl, has 2 repeat American customers with very similar good looks, affable personalities, and they are both decent in bed. Customer #1 pays the girl her absolute minimum and does her during her off hours. Customer #2 pays the girl her Barra Vip's asking price and does her in prime time. In addition, Customer #2 takes the girl out to restaurants and occasionally buys her gifts like expensive designer perfume. So, which customer do you think the girl likes better? If you think the girl likes Customer #1 better, you do not understand women.

This right here. At the end of the day, we are customers to these women. They need the money and we want to get laid.

[Safado69]

Probably should replace one T65 line item with Termas Manhattan (formerly Cancun) it's also walking distance to 4 X4.

My trip is coming up soon and I'll be getting my PCR test to get ready. Here's the list I've compiled so far. Please let me know if I'm missing any "must try" locations. I did post this in the SP forum, thought I'd post here, too. This list is in the context of most of my time being in SP and 4 nights in Rio.

Rio

Solarium.

Termas 65.

Dolce vita.

Mabs.

Terma 65 (whiskeria 65) - close to 4 x4.

4 x4.

Monte carlo termal.

Centaurus.

SP

Scandallo.

Abbora.

Moema Prime.

Enjoy Spa.

Miruna.

ClinicacTangara, Rua Tangar, 200.

Casaro Augusta, Rua Augusta 787 Consolacao.

Bomboa.

Connections club.

Julia 57.

Cafe Photo.

I should've started this list a little sooner, as I'm sure I've missed a few before I started taking notes. I'm really grateful for this community in helping me compile this list and getting a head start before I land. And I look forward to contributing with my own set of reports in the upcoming days. =).

[SinfullyKorean]

My trip is coming up soon and I'll be getting my PCR test to get ready. Here's the list I've compiled so far. Please let me know if I'm missing any "must try" locations. I did post this in the SP forum, thought I'd post here, too. This list is in the context of most of my time being in SP and 4 nights in Rio.

Rio

Solarium.

Termas 65.

Dolce vita.

Mabs.

Terma 65 (whiskeria 65) - close to 4 x4.

4 x4.

Monte carlo termal.

Centaurus.

SP

Scandallo.

Abbora.

Moema Prime.

Enjoy Spa.

Miruna.

ClinicacTangara, Rua Tangar, 200.

Casaro Augusta, Rua Augusta 787 Consolacao.

Bomboa.

Connections club.

Julia 57.

Cafe Photo.

I should've started this list a little sooner, as I'm sure I've missed a few before I started taking notes. I'm really grateful for this community in helping me compile this list and getting a head start before I land. And I look forward to contributing with my own set of reports in the upcoming days. =).

[TheDerilious]

That says it all.

You haven't been to Rio or Brazil.

Good luck, lad.

Agreed, but mongering is mongering. I've been to Chile, Argentina, SEA, Japan, China, Canada, and the good ol' US of A to engage in this hobby (maybe I have a problem) and it's all the same. Women charge what they can get and men pay the least they can get. There is no regional cabal that keeps prices up (like diamond miners) so you are getting market dictated prices. The internet has probably changed prices forever because these women see the value they can make in other places or online and adjust accordingly if they have the means to, but it doesn't actually matter because most women cannot afford to lose income waiting.

Every board complains about the same things. You have the cheapskates who always complain about how prices aren't like they used to be 25 years ago and ignore basic economics like inflation or the cost of living. You have the weekend warriors who come in throw a bunch of money down at the airport and expect to have perfect 10's with fluent English roll out the red carpet and act as their servants. Finally, the dreaded question-askers who want to be handed the keys to these perfect 10's by posters on this board without doing any work. People keep pointing to the average salary of workers in Brazil like that is what these girls should be charging. First off, the average standard living in Brazil would be considered living in poverty in the US. Why should these women strive for that life? Additionally, most of these women have 10 years of work in this business so they have to compact all of their earnings into this because they won't have any other skills when they eventually get married or are "retired" due to age / looks. Smart women can achieve more but let us be real here; most people in life suck at planning for the future.

Guys like Bearsi and ZebraStripes seem to understand this game well. Human social interaction will never be a straight economic transaction; it will always be contingent on external factors. Women are not the same game where you can figure out the rules to optimize your results. Hell, I think you have a great mentality for how you do things as well. You play the "game" and have found the price point that matches your interests, income, and style; that may not work for other people. You don't go around trying to beat the system by trying to scam the system, you just work within it to find your sweet spot. That's what we should all strive for in mongering.

[Member #4729]

I have not been to Cambodia, but I would take issue with the assertion that prostitution in the Philippines is without critical infrastructure and does not flourish there. The infrastructure may not look like Germany's, but it absolutely does exist. And how somebody can say prostitution doesn't flourish in the Philippines, I find absolutely astounding! Mind boggling! I noticed that you wrote Cambodia twice. Did you mean to say Colombia perhaps? If so, I would say the same thing. Infrastructure for flourishing prostitution.

Total agreement- late night brain fart that once submitted could not be edited. I think in my bleary mind I was comparing Philippines and Cambodia to nearby Thailand, which is obviously much more developed (flourishing) in terms of said profession. Still it should be noted, and I speak from experience, there is a great girly-bar scene in Phnom Penh which is very enjoyable and full of options. And mongers around the world do indeed head to Subic / Angeles / Manila, and to a lesser extent Cebu for a good time. Fields Avenue in Angeles is not Walking Street in Pattaya, but I've had great times there.

As for the double Cambodia- I think I meant to say Indonesia which has a small scene in Bali and Jakarta but would surely be much bigger if not for the whole Islam thing. I had a great time in Malang with a non-pro so the dating scene there is actually pretty great.

Thanks for holding me to it Mr Cane. And my what a lively board this is.

[Vagabundo1]

Moreover, if you offer a fair deal, and she likes you, she can actually replace working in a terma with you.

For example, Rihanna Noir was working in a dark side terma.

I offered her 400 pernoite.

She meets me at Central, and goes pernoite with me, which is more than she would probably make at the terma, maybe for more than one night.

She's still fucking some real BF back in Zona Norte, but she's with me pernoite instead of the terma, which she quit.

Yeah really.

It's all about skin to skin.

If she really wants your dick she wants the skin.

All the termas girls get tested. You can easily get tested.

Yeah really.

[WyattEarp]

We'll be getting a villa or something like that (any recommendations for some hidden gems? Greatly appreciated) in Copa or Ipanema (barra I liked the many options for cheap luxury condos / villas but the travel from the beach / termas girls is a huge miss for me, I like to step out and feel the sun and sand without planning a whole routine and terma girls are always down to fuck after their shift if they struck out that night and it's a pain to wait 30+ minutes for them to get to barra, prive girls are ok but not very GFE and are pretty mechanical to me IMO).

I'm a bit confused by the mention of renting a villa in Copa and Ipanema. These aren't resort towns. These are densely populated urban areas with high-rises and mid-rises. It's possible there are some old "villas" scattered around. Even if there are, affluent people who own a villa will have on-premises staff who watch the home even when renters are present. So they will likely enforce the rules of the house.

If you are truly set on finding a villa rental, your best bet is to look further west of Copa / Ipanema. However, you have to adjust to the distance from the center. There are also quiet neighborhoods like Jardim Botanico and Botafogo, but you aren't going to be near the fun beaches.

[WyattEarp]

The majority of these girls are more comfortable seeing the customer in the terma for the first encounter. After that, the customer can get her number and have her come to his place for a better agreed upon price. Going to a terma and getting a bunch of numbers doesn't mean you have any guarantee of girls coming over to your place. It's funny how the hit / miss ratio of this strategy is NEVER mentioned. So if you go to a terma and see someone you like and are getting along well with, do the test drive there. There's no shame in it. You're on vacation with limited time.

Yes, yes, no guarantees! Some girls won't respond. Some will text you for two hours that they are on their way and then flake. Something better to do came up for them. You might be on your last full day of vacation. The girl shows up three hours late while you wait in your apartment or the cafe downstairs. When do you take your Vitamin V? Is she fifteen minutes away or is she still at home an hour away?

This is why it's better to really work on a connection in the termas. That is why every experienced member recommends telling the girl that you will be there for another month. Learn some Portuguese! Vagabundo has the advantage of Portuguese language skills and being a local. The girls know they might be a regular in his rotation. If you are an attractive termas girl, you're going to be making great money for an unskilled, young Brazilian. One bloke leaving in three days isn't going to change their economics very much.

Dolce Vita and Mabs are good markets for carry out albeit small inventory. Same reason the old Help was (although much larger selection). There is more price transparency. You don't pay for the pomp and circumstance of Scandallo in SP. Everyone there will strike a deal for some lovin' that night. The price will tend to decline as the night wears on. However in an auction set-up, the girl might be obtained by another monger before you meet her ask.