Rio de Janeiro Reports

[Vagabundo1]

Did you look into getting a loan to buy the house in Brazil or did you pay cash?

Vagabundo prefers to bring as little capital onshore to Brazil as possible. He prefers to keep it somewhere in the Swiss Alps, all cyber accessible.

Mr Enternational is right on several fronts, and I still crack up at his Thai (insert farang here) meet the WG family. It's not really about sex. That takes you only a small way. A vagina is not a brain nor has language skills. For that you need a sentient person you can communicate with and have stuff in common for the other 95% of the time. Many, if not most of the girls don't have much on sale outside of selling their bodies, and I'd say that applies to many mongers who only have a wallet. The drunk cheap charlies of Thailand are an embarrassment. So many lonely and lost souls, and after they get "nutted out" , they think "what's the point" and are jaded out, meaning discover how empty they are without distractions. It is possible to find a lovely, smart and good person who happens to be a WG.

Possible but not probable. Same with "normal" females.

It's just that many WG have issues of poverty, abuse, drugs, pimps and / or obstacles and/or laziness at school or skilling up that puts them behind the eight ball more than normal girls. Parental income and commitment to education and setting good role models will make or break a child. Though I'm not a woman, getting fucked 5-10 times a day must be pretty numbing and hardens them up. Yet holding hands with some 20 year old is also fun, but it's just situational and pretending, so enjoy it, but know it will not last and don't try to control or possess it.

[The Cane]

A fat and growing net wealth, a group I talk to every day or two, and total freedom to travel is what works for me.

And a plus 1,000 percent to that!

[Pahllus Maximus]

Mr Enternational is right on several fronts, and I still crack up at his Thai (insert farang here) meet the WG family. It's not really about sex. That takes you only a small way. A vagina is not a brain nor has language skills. For that you need a sentient person you can communicate with and have stuff in common for the other 95% of the time. Many, if not most of the girls don't have much on sale outside of selling their bodies, and I'd say that applies to many mongers who only have a wallet. The drunk cheap charlies of Thailand are an embarrassment. So many lonely and lost souls, and after they get "nutted out" , they think "what's the point" and are jaded out, meaning discover how empty they are without distractions. It is possible to find a lovely, smart and good person who happens to be a WG.

Possible but not probable. Same with "normal" females.

It's just that many WG have issues of poverty, abuse, drugs, pimps and / or obstacles and/or laziness at school or skilling up that puts them behind the eight ball more than normal girls. Parental income and commitment to education and setting good role models will make or break a child. Though I'm not a woman, getting fucked 5-10 times a day must be pretty numbing and hardens them up. Yet holding hands with some 20 year old is also fun, but it's just situational and pretending, so enjoy it, but know it will not last and don't try to control or possess it.

Street Life by Randy Crawford (1979)

I play the streetlife, because there's no place I can go
Streetlife, it's the only life I know
Streetlife, and there's a thousand parts to play
Streetlife, until you play your life away

You let the people see just who you wanna be
And every night you shine just like a super star
That's how the life is played, a ten cent masquerade
You dress, you walk, you talk
You're who you think you are....

Anything valuable usually takes hard work, persistence and patience. Instant gratification is very costly. That includes the care and feeding of good friends. Keep a small group of good, trusted friends (not the BS facebook definition), trust defined as keeping secrets, lending money, being prepared to take you in at 3 am and generally go out of their way such as helping you build a house or boat. If you have 2-3, you have already won the lottery. These real social connections are the stuff of life. So too is rejecting the lies and brainwashing of social status anxiety and expensive baubles like cars, clothes. Laugh at them.

Like Mr Enternational I live well below my means, shop at Ross and Goodwill and have no qualms about it. A fat and growing net wealth, houses in 3 countries, a group I talk to every day or two, and total freedom to travel, great food and good mental and physical health is what works for me.

And yes USA is sex prison with a pretty fucked system ranging from shitty health care, puritanical BS, guns, corruption, greed, the highest incarceration rate in the developed world and idiotic culture wars over bullshit rather than "why have glovbalization that fucks my basic housing and income security" real conversation. Just the way the elites like it. Divide, distract, keep em dumb and busy to see what is in their rational long term self interest

[WyattEarp]

I read somewhere that a relationship / marriage is like chewing gum, its sweet and enjoyable at the beginning but in time the sweetness goes. I'm guessing that all the guys on ISG want the sweetness to continue forever so they keep buying new packs of gum. A guy who wants to continue chewing the same stick of gum will receive raised eyebrows from ISGers.

It's a hassle getting chewing gum off your shoe.

[Turgid]

People can absolutely develop feelings for each other. The reason why folks here get cynical is that they know it rarely works in the long run, especially if two people in question don't speak the same language......

I read somewhere that a relationship / marriage is like chewing gum, its sweet and enjoyable at the beginning but in time the sweetness goes. I'm guessing that all the guys on ISG want the sweetness to continue forever so they keep buying new packs of gum. A guy who wants to continue chewing the same stick of gum will receive raised eyebrows from ISGers.

[Mr Enternational]

Also, I can't be the only one who treasures the cheapness, simplicity and convenience of commercial sex in Brazil. I can tell them in no uncertain terms what I want, and 9 out of 10 cheerfully comply. To achieve a similar level of compliance with civilians it would take courting, patience, training and luck. In other words, time. And in my limited experience, courting civilians takes more money than any Brazilian GDP. I know you disagree, but again, that's my experience.

You know me like a book because I definitely disagree. If your only aim is to fuck someone then of course the GDP route serves best. But if you are also looking to meet people and establish friendships and relationships then civilian is what you want.

Most chicks I meet online. When you meet chicks online then show up, all the pieces usually fall right into place. 99% of the time there is minimal money spent if any money at all. Hell like I said sometimes you don't even have to spend on a hotel because you can stay with the chick. Many chicks have cars so no need for taxis. They can even pick you up at the airport. I always fill their car up with gas though. The chicks that do not have cars usually come to you on the metro so no need to pay for someone's expensive taxi. Maybe you go out to eat with them but you were going to eat anyway. Not sure what could be costing so much over paying a GDP unless you plan on taking trips with them or something.

[Xpartan]

I have not always spoken different languages and I have not always traveled a lot. But I have always been interested in normal women and have never thought to enter a serious relationship with a hooker. As a matter of fact, my motivation for learning different languages was so that I could talk to women. I do have a degree in French and Education so that has made things easier for me on the learning other languages front.

Kudos to you, seems like you are living a dream. Me? I can't travel more than I do. For reasons that have nothing to do with work or income, I'm stuck in the USA for the best part of the year. Furthermore, when I do travel, it often has nothing to do with mongering, I just go places I want to see. Some of my most memorable travel experiences have nothing to do with women. So there is that.

Also, I can't be the only one who treasures the cheapness, simplicity and convenience of commercial sex in Brazil. I can tell them in no uncertain terms what I want, and 9 out of 10 cheerfully comply. To achieve a similar level of compliance with civilians it would take courting, patience, training and luck. In other words, time. And in my limited experience, courting civilians takes more money than any Brazilian GDP. I know you disagree, but again, that's my experience.

I remember finding a woman on Par Perfeito (years ago. A civilian from Cabo Frio in her 30's. Stunning body for her age. Brought her to Buzios, spent a couple of blessed days together. I was quite smitten with her, actually. A week later (I'd been in the States by then), she hit me up for the money, LOL.

[Nounce]

Despite what someone might assume about me...

So you have choices based on your explanation. Do you choose her?

[The Cane]

Maybe you are thinking the American Dream is something that it is not. To me it is being able to get enough money to do what you want.

The goal ought to be to get to a point when you have enough money to do what you want when you want. For me, that's the real definition of freedom. Almost there!

[Vagabundo1]

The side, tangential point is the main point: living in rich world puritan pussy prison america sucks.

As for the girl, show me a beautiful girl, and I will show you a guy who is sick of fucking her.

If you can figure out the logistics of digital nomad, retirement living in Brazil cheaply but better, then that's the prize.

Despite what someone might assume about me, which I can completely understand, I'm in my early 40's I eat healthy and work out five days a week and in extremely good shape, I'm a salesman and I've slept with and dated a few of my coworkers and not uncommon for customers to ask me out or flirt. I've even dated a couple girls I've met at the gym so I'm actually very capable of interacting with other humans and dating attractive girls in my own country. I think part of the reason as I have a desire to live in a place like Mexico South America or Asians it's Much cheaper to live and in the US everybody is so materialistic in other countries people are happy with a lot less. I have worked my ass off too acquire the "" American Dream " to realize the American dream is not my dream now that I achieve that but anyways that's a little off topic. I'm not going to lie I have often question myself why I could fall for working girl, in Brazil I had success on the beach and on Tinder with girls who do not do that for work. Sometimes you just find a strong connection despite the situation I'm not saying that it's healthy I'm just saying that's how it is for me. Anyways despite how anybody feels about this topic on here I think it makes for an interesting discussion and see peoples viewpoints and experiences.

[Sperto]

I'm in my early 40's I eat healthy and work out five days a week and in extremely good shape, I'm a salesman

I don't mean to sound full of myself but I work out all the time I'm in really good shape and I'm a salesman

I'm 41 in great shape (not to sound like I'm full of my self but lets face it that matters sometimes)

Not once has she asked me for money and no I have not given any, except when we were together because she wasn't working and it's a lot less than she would get working.

I guess part of the reason why I was taking the seriouses because it 43 years old... I will give her credit that she's never asked me for any money I did give her about $1500 for the two weeks I was there just so she didn't have to worry about paying her bills because she wasn't at the club three or four nights a week working.

I think it makes for an interesting discussion and see peoples viewpoints and experiences.

You want viewpoints and experiences. Judging by what you write the girls must consider you to be (Brazilian expression) "A última coca-cola do deserto". You have fallen in love with a prostitute. You write she doesn't charge you, but there is really no need to as you pay her anyway. More than many Brazilian earns in a month.

Many first time visitors to Brazil get wild as they meet hot Brazilian GPS who give them better sex than they ever had in their life. These girls are smart and know how to make the gringos feel special. Soon they have a bunch of gringos sending them money on a regular basis.

I had a GP-friend who I used to meet for free sex. She used to work at Barbarella. She had three Americans sending her money and expensive presents (laptops, phones and even a dog) every month. She received so much money that she stopped working at Barbarella. Sometimes when we met at her apartment (the rent was payed by one of her boyfriends) she had to interrupt our sex to sweet-talk on of the boyfriends who called her.

[Mr Enternational]

I think part of the reason as I have a desire to live in a place like Mexico South America or Asians it's Much cheaper to live and in the US everybody is so materialistic in other countries people are happy with a lot less. I have worked my ass off too acquire the "" American Dream " to realize the American dream is not my dream

Maybe you are thinking the American Dream is something that it is not. To me it is being able to get enough money to do what you want. And if that want is living in another place then Dream achieved.

You are right about the materialism, but I think that is more of a young person's game anyway. At 50 I pretty much wear shorts from Goodwill, a t-shirt, and flip flops everyday. Versus when I was younger and had to have Polo everything. Overseas nobody looks at you crazy if you don't have a car. In most places in the USA you are kind of expected to have one.

[Mr Enternational]

I'm not going to pretend to know you, but from reading your comments on different boards, I think I can presume to know at least a couple of things about you.

1. You speak languages.

2. You travel a lot.

Now presume that you only have a week or two to enjoy your destination, maybe once or twice a year. Imagine further that you aren't fluent in Spanish or Portuguese. Would that affect your MO?

Dating might not be a hard work, but it takes time. And it's hard to win a woman's heart via Google Translate, LOL.

I have not always spoken different languages and I have not always traveled a lot. But I have always been interested in normal women and have never thought to enter a serious relationship with a hooker. As a matter of fact, my motivation for learning different languages was so that I could talk to women. I do have a degree in French and Education so that has made things easier for me on the learning other languages front.

When I first started learning Portuguese me and a buddy were on the bus headed to Vila Mimosa. I started flirting with the lady that takes the money. Then my buddy started talking to her and he got her number. She told him that she did not understand my Portuguese. Then not sure if it was the same trip but I was waiting on the bus headed back to the airport. I met a beautiful chick but she did not speak English and I hardly spoke Portuguese. We exchanged numbers but communication in the days before all these cell phones whatsapp and google translate was slow. Those were motivators for me to get in gear.

Then a couple of years later a buddy showed me Latin Cupid. The women on there were so beautiful. I said if I could speak Spanish I would be hell. That did not stop me though. First time to Peru I stayed at a chick's house. She did not speak English and I did not speak Spanish. But I spoke Portuguese and we were able to maneuver that way.

First time to Colombia I went to see a lawyer that I met on the site. She took the bus 14 hours to Bogota to see me. I did not speak Spanish and she did not speak English. I had bought a little translator thing and a Spanish dictionary from Target. That turned out to be shit. When I got back I took the translator back and still have the small dictionary.

First time to Dominican Republic I did not speak any Spanish. I was with a wingman from Miami though. I remember walking down the street talking to some hookers and one asked when I arrived. I asked my wingman how to say yesterday. He said ayer. Met a well to do chick on the site and she came to see me. We started dating. She spoke English though and now she lives in the States but still single. The rest is history.

All I can say is whether I have spoken local languages or not, I have never been motivated to pursue a serious relationship with a sex worker. Maybe I see things different because I am from the street and used to hang out with the pimps in high school and was a DJ in the strip club my last year of high school. It just seems ridiculous to me when there are so many normal women around.

By putting in a little effort you can meet and date them instead of the chick that fucks for a living. And this is coming from a guy that does not care if a chick is fucking other guys or not. Most boyfriends are really possessive and don't want their girl fucking other guys. To volunteer to try to turn the literal hoe into the proverbial housewife is beyond me.

[Xpartan]

But why with hookers as opposed to women that are not? I can only assume that these men do not associate with regular women, so that leaves only hookers for them to fall for. Like it is hard for me to fathom a guy dating normal chicks on the regular then fucks a hooker a couple of times and is all of a sudden in love. For me normal chicks are 5 course home-cooked meals and hookers are on-the-go snacks in between. I would never try to make the snack my main meal.

I'm not going to pretend to know you, but from reading your comments on different boards, I think I can presume to know at least a couple of things about you.

1. You speak languages.

2. You travel a LOT.

Now presume that you only have a week or two to enjoy your destination, maybe once or twice a year. Imagine further that you aren't fluent in Spanish or Portuguese. Would that affect your MO?

Dating might not be a hard work, but it takes time. And it's hard to win a woman's heart via Google Translate, LOL.

[Vagabundo1]

Much as vagabundo is a fan of Barra, the location of Hilton Barra sucks! Not at all near the beach. Search close to av gastao senges 395 if choosing barra.

Dear friends,

Which Hotel would you prefer?

Hilton Barra or Copacabana?

Barra is cheaper, Copacabana is near beach.

Which Hotel is better for our sports?

Thank you for any help!!