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  1. #29788
    CPF (Cost Per Fuck) is the rationale.

    CPF in a clinica or prive comes down to 150 - 250 per hour, in a terma it is 2 x or 200% or 300% of that. How often do you come to Brazil and for how long? If you are only here for a few days, maybe it doesn't make much difference.

    ISG board members come here once every 5 years in person, and then get over invested in that memory being the best answer. And then the discussion gets dragged down into a contest of who has the best picture of Elisa Sanches' anus, etc. Let's all agree that fucking Elisa Sanches up the ass is a good thing. I just prefer to do it daily several times a day, every day.

    If you do it 24/7/365 for 1400 days at a time, the numbers start to make a difference. It's just econ 101.

    And the women are the same. You can fuck real porn stars in the clinicas and prives. You just need to do the research.

    My rationale is below, and in my 2200 posts, as this topic gets covered from time to time.

    RJ and SP are as far apart as a 20 dollar bus ticket in time by not much more than a trip to Pavuna from Metro Jardim Oceanico.

    For actual sex, I just prefer lower cost clinicas and prives. I like fucking during the day rather than at night, and then finding the best fucks for overnights at my place where I have all the comforts of home, my lube, etc, and better security. Of course.

    I do like termas for socializing, talking biz, meeting and hanging out with friends. For the same reason I pick restaurants, or ganja. BTW, the best cigar joint in RJ is Velha Havana, recommended by none other than a Brazilian Navy Captain. Good internet and near the RJ naval base.

    For those of us who live in Brazil we know the exact same girls are in SP as RJ. I could start a list, most recently the pornstar Kamila werneck, loira Penelope who worked at 4 x4 and Perola, who now lives in SP but visits RJ for carnival, and on and on. Perla girls like Jasminy Vilar go on to be pornstars in the best porn coming out of RJ. RJ SP are basically one megalopolis, and the talent moves back and forth on cheap bus rides, the pro move is to be the go to housing option in trade for services at the best beach in Brazil.

    Quote Originally Posted by FilthyBeaver  [View Original Post]
    Your opinion does not appear to be consensus re Scandollo. Is it money, girl looks quality, girl attitude, staff service / attitude, do you regularly get turned down?

    If if the entrance fee is acceptable to you which buys you some food, I'm going to assume it's not the money as it's expensive by Brazil standards, why wouldn't you want to bang someone who catches your eye there. It sounds like there's all shapes and sizes so there must be someone you might fancy and some reason you go.

  2. #29787
    For those of us who live in Brazil we know the exact same girls are in SP as RJ. I could start a list, most recently the pornstar Kamila werneck, loira Penelope who worked at 4 x4 and Perola, who now lives in SP but visits RJ for carnival, and on and on. Perla girls like Jasminy Vilar go on to be pornstars in the best porn coming out of RJ. RJ SP are basically one megalopolis, and the talent moves back and forth on cheap bus rides, the pro move is to be the go to housing option in trade for services at the best beach in Brazil.

    Quote Originally Posted by TheCane  [View Original Post]
    Of course, it's all a matter of opinion. There are plenty of people here who don't agree with yours. The majority I dare say. Well we all know the saying. Everybody has an opinion and an asshole. Including the beautiful blonde brancas of Brazil thank goodness! LMAO!

  3. #29786

    I'd like to know your rationale

    Your opinion does not appear to be consensus re Scandollo. Is it money, girl looks quality, girl attitude, staff service / attitude, do you regularly get turned down?

    If if the entrance fee is acceptable to you which buys you some food, I'm going to assume it's not the money as it's expensive by Brazil standards, why wouldn't you want to bang someone who catches your eye there. It sounds like there's all shapes and sizes so there must be someone you might fancy and some reason you go.

    Quote Originally Posted by Vagabundo1  [View Original Post]
    I've been to scandallo and no it is not worth fucking a girl there. It is worth having dinner there once to credit against the consumable, but then go to the clinicas which are world class.

  4. #29785
    I think there would still be a variety of preferences and opinions even if the topic of conversation were limited to "best bang for your buck. " VM, RJ Prive's, vs SP clinicas: we all know the cheapest, but what is the best or preferred venue in this category and why will always be in dispute. For example, I prefer the clinicas in this price range.

    If the topic were "best nightclub / bordellos" with "best" indicating highest quality, largest number of friendly girls available, and all that this implies, then there really is no contest. RJ's termas are good, I like a few, but good ain't exactly amazing. BTW, when did Help (amazing) close? I am sorry I missed it.

  5. #29784
    All depends what type of guy you are. If money isn't an object & you don't like to spend any time hunting, scandallo is convenient. Lets be honest.

    If your taking a short vacation, don't have much time, & want to enjoy with the boys, scandallo is convenient. It's where I met with the guys once or twice a month over a meal & sometimes a girl joining us. Sometimes, I did partake in getting a room.

    If money is an object & you are spending alot of time in sao paulo, then scandallo is a bad idea. You can save $ & have a great time doing some research online of escorts, going to cheaper venues, clinicas, rio, etc.

    I do believe girls on average are slightly better looking in sao paulo, but because it's only slightly, I have a hard time putting sao paulo over rio. I like them both equally. The beach is good for your health & a bunch of pollution / traffic of city life isn't.

  6. #29783

    Opinion

    Quote Originally Posted by Vagabundo1  [View Original Post]
    I've been to scandallo and no it is not worth fucking a girl there.
    Of course, it's all a matter of opinion. There are plenty of people here who don't agree with yours. The majority I dare say. Well we all know the saying. Everybody has an opinion and an asshole. Including the beautiful blonde brancas of Brazil thank goodness! LMAO!

  7. #29782
    Touchdown in rio. Having a hard time deciding if I like sao paulo or rio girls are better bang for the buck. Help me pick!

  8. #29781

    Back to barra VIP

    So I had Sofia come over recently and asked her for a profile of her clientle, she told me older Brazilian men. She lives in Copacabana, I asked her why many girls live in Barra, she said there are many very rich Brazilians there. Futeball players, businessmen etc. That's how they get the high prices. To have your pictures on the site costs 1,500 reais a week. I heard these same answers before. This girl was very hot, walked in sat down next to me and started DFK and it was all great from there plus reasonably priced, I would repeat. I also had a girl come over that I met in DV last week, second time was much better plus it wasn't 2 o'clock in the morning so I was much more alert.

    I see taxi cab drivers getting more aggressive, they see you standing on the curb calling an Uber and pull over and tell you they'll take you where you want to go, plus a lot of taxis are parked, Uber is giving them a run for their money.

  9. #29780
    I've been to scandallo and no it is not worth fucking a girl there. It is worth having dinner there once to credit against the consumable, but then go to the clinicas which are world class.

    Perola Negra is the best terma in Brazil and the world because it is on the beach, the best beach in the world, at classicobeachclub posto 2, barra the tijuca. Show me the beach at Scandallo? It is in Santos and Paraty and a hours long uber away. But it's worth doing SP several times in a lifetime until you realize you could live the rest of your life in RJ, and POA and Floripa, teaching college students english and banging the hottest ones, because teaching college kids, getting to know them and falling in real love with the hottest ones from say, Russia, is better even than being a unfuckable fuck who has to pay for sex in a sex club; get some game you unfuckable fucks and go get your dirty old man professor of English on!

    Quote Originally Posted by Steve9696  [View Original Post]
    To be clear it's unlike FKK because the girls are all dressed (nicely). But on balance it blows FKK out of the water, even during its heyday. I've been to Sharks and Oase and Globe and Palace and World and nothing holds a candle to Scandallo. It is my favorite venue worldwide by a wide margin and I've been nearly everywhere. Word of warning tho. I now find FKK a lot less exciting having experienced Scandallo.

    The other notable thing about Scandallo that exceeds FKK besides the glitz and glam is the whole girlfriend feeling to it. You know in FKK what's your name. Where you from. We go to room now? That is totally NOT Scandallo. It's common to hang out and party with your girl for 30 minutes or hour or more before you hit the room. Cuddle. Dance. Drink. Make out. It's all part of the scene.

  10. #29779
    Quote Originally Posted by Steve9696  [View Original Post]
    To be clear it's unlike FKK because the girls are all dressed (nicely). But on balance it blows FKK out of the water, even during its heyday. I've been to Sharks and Oase and Globe and Palace and World and nothing holds a candle to Scandallo. It is my favorite venue worldwide by a wide margin and I've been nearly everywhere. Word of warning tho. I now find FKK a lot less exciting having experienced Scandallo.

    The other notable thing about Scandallo that exceeds FKK besides the glitz and glam is the whole girlfriend feeling to it. You know in FKK what's your name. Where you from. We go to room now? That is totally NOT Scandallo. It's common to hang out and party with your girl for 30 minutes or hour or more before you hit the room. Cuddle. Dance. Drink. Make out. It's all part of the scene.

    Finally but this is not unique to Scandallo Brasileiras love to kiss. Every last one of them. And they are good kissers. Like they teach it in middle school or something! I once told my girl that some girls worldwide don't want to kiss and would have sex but not kiss. And she's like what the fuck is that? How can you have sex without kissing? LOL.

    Once you have done Brasil you will be hooked. Guaranteed.
    Quality hanging out time, kissing, and I assume a good experience in the room? SOLD!

  11. #29778
    Quote Originally Posted by Manny51  [View Original Post]
    So you think that Scandallo is worth the stretch? That is the impression that I have been getting on ISG-- that Scandallo is a singular, bucket list venue. I have travelled to many countries, and been on ISG for a while now. The only other place that I have heard of talked about with the same reverence was FKK Oase back in the day.
    Betcha by Golly Wow!! YES worth the stretch!
    https://youtu.be/9IpyJ8xUfio?si=LMPw35wYjX3XWEH7

    Come over to the Sao Paulo Thread to learn more.

  12. #29777

    Bucket List Must Do

    Quote Originally Posted by Manny51  [View Original Post]
    So you think that Scandallo is worth the stretch? That is the impression that I have been getting on ISG-- that Scandallo is a singular, bucket list venue. I have travelled to many countries, and been on ISG for a while now. The only other place that I have heard of talked about with the same reverence was FKK Oase back in the day.
    To be clear it's unlike FKK because the girls are all dressed (nicely). But on balance it blows FKK out of the water, even during its heyday. I've been to Sharks and Oase and Globe and Palace and World and nothing holds a candle to Scandallo. It is my favorite venue worldwide by a wide margin and I've been nearly everywhere. Word of warning tho. I now find FKK a lot less exciting having experienced Scandallo.

    The other notable thing about Scandallo that exceeds FKK besides the glitz and glam is the whole girlfriend feeling to it. You know in FKK what's your name. Where you from. We go to room now? That is totally NOT Scandallo. It's common to hang out and party with your girl for 30 minutes or hour or more before you hit the room. Cuddle. Dance. Drink. Make out. It's all part of the scene.

    Finally but this is not unique to Scandallo Brasileiras love to kiss. Every last one of them. And they are good kissers. Like they teach it in middle school or something! I once told my girl that some girls worldwide don't want to kiss and would have sex but not kiss. And she's like what the fuck is that? How can you have sex without kissing? LOL.

    Once you have done Brasil you will be hooked. Guaranteed.

  13. #29776
    Quote Originally Posted by Steve9696  [View Original Post]
    As Spartan says. Rio Termas are closed Sunday. Total ghost town. In So Paulo Clinica Tangara is open Sunday. And at night Casarao and Bahamas are open. All other majors are closed to my knowledge.

    Seeking Arrangement is a good option for Sundays either place.

    Scandallo is indeed pricey but a must see. My friend Mark who is new to this went to Monte Carlo in Rio last year and was blown away (as a newbie would be) I made sure we hit Scandallo this year and mind blown! But maybe it's best to work your way up and enjoy each step of the journey. Because it's all downhill from Scandallo.
    In addition to Tangara, clinicas Yankin, Miruna, Prime, Indy, and probably Brooklin are open on Sundays until about 7 PM.

  14. #29775
    Quote Originally Posted by Steve9696  [View Original Post]
    As Spartan says. Rio Termas are closed Sunday. Total ghost town. In So Paulo Clinica Tangara is open Sunday. And at night Casarao and Bahamas are open. All other majors are closed to my knowledge.

    Seeking Arrangement is a good option for Sundays either place.

    Scandallo is indeed pricey but a must see. My friend Mark who is new to this went to Monte Carlo in Rio last year and was blown away (as a newbie would be) I made sure we hit Scandallo this year and mind blown! But maybe it's best to work your way up and enjoy each step of the journey. Because it's all downhill from Scandallo.
    So you think that Scandallo is worth the stretch? That is the impression that I have been getting on ISG-- that Scandallo is a singular, bucket list venue. I have travelled to many countries, and been on ISG for a while now. The only other place that I have heard of talked about with the same reverence was FKK Oase back in the day.

  15. #29774
    Quote Originally Posted by NiteRiderCal  [View Original Post]
    Have anyone use Revolut ATM card recently in Brazil? Does it work? If not, which ATM card are you using and what exchange rate do you get? How are you getting your cash in Rio?

    I have always uses Revolut card because its market exchange rate and charge a 0. 5%fee. Unlike Bank of America which give a shitty exchange rate that is a few percent against me. This rate is better than any exchange house. However, 6 months ago, Revolut did not work at any Brazilian bank ATM. I went to the same bank that had work in the past, Itau, Bradesco, Santander. The only ATM that work was a 24 Horas ATM, but those none bank ATM are a total rip off. Luckily, I have a good Brazilian friend that let me borrow cash. This time, I don't want to bother people and I don't like the feeling of owing something to anyone.

    Is there a US bank which give you market rate or good exchange rate that you recommend? I still have time to open bank account before I go. A google search online, Charles Schwab ATM card come out on top recommended because there is no fee. But that doesn't mean anything, I did a search on exchange rate and it is 4 to 7% against you.

    Thank to anyone that can help with info.
    I just did 7 weeks in Rio and Campinas and used Revolut only. Next time I would upgrade to premium so you have unlimted exchange if you pay with card and 400 euro per month withdrawals with no fees.

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