Rio de Janeiro Reports

[Nounce]

Judging from the large, free market in Sao Paulo called "Scandallo" no one makes the market. It is about as efficient as a market can get foreigner or not. (Unless of course, you believe the rumor that the same girls who service men in clinicas in the afternoon show up at Scandallo at night.) Sao Paulo escorts of similar quality require similar compensation as the Scandallo girls. From this I take, the marginal buyer in SP has no power.

I think if it is efficient, most girls should be able to make more money by having more customers per night, and also at a lower price. The girl make more money at lower price by fucking more. The current setup seems to benefit the club and a subset of girls more.

[Vagabundo1]

Reverse Cycle Ops.

Your average top tier stripper at 4 x4 works 16 h to 24 h at 4 x4, maybe goes to Mosaico a few nights a week to fuck who she wants.

Your average top tier prive girl works 12 h to 18 h at a centro prive.

You, the foreign monger, parachuting into GIG or SDU for 2 weeks, staying at Av Atlantico are, by yourself, not going to make a difference, but in the union of gringos, may be able to, and by playing smart, definitely could do well.

The Swiss Naval Infantry teach something called Reverse Cycle Ops, or we own the night, or we are best when they are worst. Cariocas are cold blooded animals, scared of the dark because that is where vagabundos lurk, so, you want to play where they are not occupied. One strategy is simply to get the number of the terma girl and get her to a motel in centro during lunch or the afternoon before her shift at 4 x 4 starts, then take her to buzios, or even closer and better IMHO, to Marambaia Cafe / Pousada on the weekends. Boom. Sundays for 4 x 4 girls (or prive girls). The prive girl on the other hand -- a pernoite once a week (Because if she is any good, she is being dicked down for 8 hours a day from 11 h to 19 h; for example, I am a victim of my own success, ie, stephany, last time I checked which was Monday was booked solid to 17 h when I asked about her at 12 h.) That will show vagabundo that he should not share information too widely. Does the average local girl like a gringo? F no. Fat, often. Can't speak porto, always. Smelly, often. Bad hygiene, often. Money, that's the only saving grace. Small dick, usually, which is why he's paying for it. Asshole, almost always. Old, often. Asian, often, and not a plus for the average latina or negra. But you can play smart. Go reverse cycle: ie, go for the afternoon session at a centro motel (see the guiadomoteis), go for a rare weekday pernoite, go for the weekend pernoite or viagem always. And cross talk with your fellow gringos.

Or you could just be brilliant in the basics, as the Swiss Naval Infantry like to say in their basic school:

For prives, show up at 11 h, and get the apresentacao early so you can get the first session; or you can call ahead and book at girl who has high reviews on GPArena.

For the termas, show up in the afternoon, and ditto.

And if you are really a squared away Monger, you could follow the example of JimmyBoy, who stays at Hotel Atlantico Tower. Logistics, Logistics, Logistics. That is like 250 meters from 4 x 4, and less than 800 m from all the centro prives.

Staying in a Ave Atlantico hotel may be the going trend for newbies, of which there are many, but you don't have to be a lemming. You should stay at Hotel Atlantico Tower or Transamerica. Be the bat, not the ball. Gain and maintain the initiative. Be the hunter, not the hunted.

I haven't mastered it.

These are just my observations.

It is clearly an inefficient market.

[Vagabundo1]

I haven't mastered it.

These are just my observations.

It is clearly an inefficient market.

I'm sure there is a nugget of information here that can be applied. The best a foreign monger can do in any country is make contact and make offers. Perhaps with some charm a foreigner strolls into 4 x 4 and makes a proposition to one of their top tier hotties, she think it's a great deal and accepts without issue. She instead might require a foreigner premium because you know language, culture, income disparity etc. Makes it necessary for her to ask for more. One foreign dick in several weeks ain't going to make her nut.

Judging from the large, free market in Sao Paulo called "Scandallo" no one makes the market. It is about as efficient as a market can get foreigner or not. (Unless of course, you believe the rumor that the same girls who service men in clinicas in the afternoon show up at Scandallo at night.) Sao Paulo escorts of similar quality require similar compensation as the Scandallo girls. From this I take, the marginal buyer in SP has no power.

So why do you think the Rio market is inefficient other than you have proclaimed you have mastered it? I don't think a marginal buyer who drops in for a week or so is going to have the ability to play any inefficiencies.

[WyattEarp]

The Marginal Buyer.

In an inefficient market, the marginal buyer is king.

You, the ISG member in Rio, are by definition, the marginal buyer.

OK, let's put that up on the chalkboard.

The 'market' in Rio is defined by natives of Brazil. Guys who make 1300 reais a month, who rent for 400, and who have the odd 50 twice a week, maybe, to spend on sex, so they go to centro prives or VM.

economist.com recently noted that a PhD medical researcher is making like 4000 a month, and she's moving to France because Brazil sucks.

In that market, 4 x 4 is as good as it gets. It is the top. Maybe there are some at solarium who are better, but Vagabundo having been to both, is here to tell you, Solarium just spends more on pharmaceuticals. The quality of the chicks is the same. MC? Please. That's warmed over 27 year olds who are rejects from 4 x4...

I'm sure there is a nugget of information here that can be applied. The best a foreign monger can do in any country is make contact and make offers. Perhaps with some charm a foreigner strolls into 4 x 4 and makes a proposition to one of their top tier hotties, she think it's a great deal and accepts without issue. She instead might require a foreigner premium because you know language, culture, income disparity etc. Makes it necessary for her to ask for more. One foreign dick in several weeks ain't going to make her nut.

Judging from the large, free market in Sao Paulo called "Scandallo" no one makes the market. It is about as efficient as a market can get foreigner or not. (Unless of course, you believe the rumor that the same girls who service men in clinicas in the afternoon show up at Scandallo at night.) Sao Paulo escorts of similar quality require similar compensation as the Scandallo girls. From this I take, the marginal buyer in SP has no power.

So why do you think the Rio market is inefficient other than you have proclaimed you have mastered it? I don't think a marginal buyer who drops in for a week or so is going to have the ability to play any inefficiencies.

[The Cane]

And who are we? Even accounting for "high class problems" of whether you like blondes in tier 1 termas or negras in VM, we, the ISG members are the happy few, the guys who can get laid, when we want, any time we want. Judging by the pathetic rich world men who are my 'friends' on social networks and who whine like little girls in message boards, but who are married to some post menopausal dry pussy church chick who they support because she cooks 3 times a day, and who doesn't fuck like the girl in the next room at the motel in Reno, they are the sad, the guys who jerk off maybe, instead of getting some.

I see these thirsty men out here tripping over themselves and kissing ass on fat, unattractive, bossy women trying to get some of that depreciated pussy! If there's one thing a committed monger is not, it's "thirsty" for some puss and ass! No way am I going to settle for "standard fare" when I know I can be boning hot, 20+ year-old Brazilian brancas and morenas, 70% of them in the ass (that's my Brazil LAA or Lifetime Anal Average)! We may all have our own individual challenges, but achieving sexual satisfaction ain't one of them! I gots 99 problems, but getting some pussy ain't one! And I will keep mongering until either I can't get it up anymore, I can't afford it anymore, or I'm not breathing anymore! So help me God!

[Jimmy Boy 99]

Went last week to Vivo and Tim stores to get a Brazil phone number but neither would give me SIM card without a CPF, and Tim wouldn't even reactivate my previous phone number without a CPF. I remembered a post by Vagabundo about getting one from a kiosk but could not find the post in a search. Met with Vagabundo on Wednesday to go to Casa Bombeiro and asked him where he said to get the card. He said it was at Central metro station, so we walked there because it was fairly close. There is a Tim stand in front of the entrance with a sign saying a SIM card is 10 real. Told the girl there that I did not have a CPF. She called another girl over and told her I had no CPF. The other girl took out a stack of SIM cards and gave me one to put in my phone. She then activated it and it worked fine. For 10 real you get the chip, 20 days of unlimited calls, and 9 gb of data, and it is rechargeable. Hell of a deal. Thanks, Vagabundo.

Here is the info you were looking for.

[TShelby]

I am going in two weeks and I am interested in knowing exactly the location to go to get the sim card! Thank you!

Sorry friends, I can't find the Vagabundo post where was talking about the best place to buy a SIM card, I'm going to Rio next week and I'd like to have more information to waste as little time as possible. Obrigado.

[Vagabundo1]

The Marginal Buyer.

In an inefficient market, the marginal buyer is king.

You, the ISG member in Rio, are by definition, the marginal buyer.

OK, let's put that up on the chalkboard.

The 'market' in Rio is defined by natives of Brazil. Guys who make 1300 reais a month, who rent for 400, and who have the odd 50 twice a week, maybe, to spend on sex, so they go to centro prives or VM.

economist.com recently noted that a PhD medical researcher is making like 4000 a month, and she's moving to France because Brazil sucks.

In that market, 4 x 4 is as good as it gets. It is the top. Maybe there are some at solarium who are better, but Vagabundo having been to both, is here to tell you, Solarium just spends more on pharmaceuticals. The quality of the chicks is the same. MC? Please. That's warmed over 27 year olds who are rejects from 4 x4.

The "market" is the centro terma. Most upwardly mobile, or white collar Brazilians are office workers in centro. They make between 1300 and 4000 a month. They go bang a hot prive girl with between 80 and 120. Maybe they go to VM on their way home, or to work. Many work 12-6 or some odd hour shift.

The number of ISG members in town at any given time is at most 7 multiplied by 3 (assuming that two times as many are just lurkers, or just guys who show up at 4 x 4 by their word of mouth). That is a negligible number. 20-30 dicks in a megacity of 12 million, of which say 3 million are fucking age males. The market is that great mass of Brazilian men looking to get the poison out.

And who are we? Even accounting for "high class problems" of whether you like blondes in tier 1 termas or negras in VM, we, the ISG members are the happy few, the guys who can get laid, when we want, any time we want. Judging by the pathetic rich world men who are my 'friends' on social networks and who whine like little girls in message boards, but who are married to some post menopausal dry pussy church chick who they support because she cooks 3 times a day, and who doesn't fuck like the girl in the next room at the motel in Reno, they are the sad, the guys who jerk off maybe, instead of getting some.

Well, its Thursday, and Vagabundo is still a little tired after the good marathon fuck on Tuesday, tired in a good way. Ana Foxxx says she wants to do a pernoite. So I may do that. Nia Nacci is texting vagabundo again to come over to barra so Vagabundo can defile her.

The plan from tboy2121 was to do barra today, see Transamerica and hit some termas. We will see what happens.

[ManchesterLad1]

Me being that guy, you're correct, LOL.

But right above on the same search page you can see RioBob confirming the HJ nature of that establishment.

In any case, you've got your answer.

Just to make sure you understand I'm not patronizing you (sorry if I gave you this impression).

When you ask a question you might get a narrow answer to that particular question, nothing else.

When you search for an answer, you get the answer to your question and wealth of other information that can help make your trip unforgettable.

As Senhor Vagabundo and other veterans have said.

Start with the reports of distinction.

Read the replies and discussions based on these reports.

Thank you, yes I definitely enjoy the Rio forums more than others as y'all actually talk about valuable info not asking about covid tests etc.

[Vagabundo1]

Pernoite, BBFS, 500 r.

She comes in and we bang BBFS, she upsells to 500, but that is OK. We have already said 300 r pernoite 3 times a week. We fuck on the couch, bed, balcony for 3 hours or more. We hit it on the leather chair with roller wheels on the balcony. I brew sun brewed tea on the balcony, and put granola and protein powder in the 250 ML bottles from engov, the recovery drink. I am trying to get back in shape, and having stopped drinking it comes off quickly. Weed, though I would ideally quit that too, is much more healthy, and a constant winner with the girls. I also serve her some dinalle white wine, chilled. I am such a fucking hero. BK for dinner, enough for breakfast in bed, which we are eating as I type this. The porn must be set to play on silent and the booming speakers are the best investment you, the monger, will make. You play Felipe ret, start radio, on music. google.com, you are in there like Flynn. We had a Flynn in the SWISS guard, some asshole that the pope hand picked due to some Irish priest who ended up sucking dick like all the goddamn puritans, but I digress.

Some of that about priests, above, is just great screenwriting, but I don't tell my editor.

The girl came from a centro prive. I will be at cinelandia metro starbucks at 12 h30 . Today, a ISG member is bringing his girlfriend into 4 x4, and Sergeant callsign DJ Vagabundo, swiss naval special warfare, the recipient of the swiss navy cross for covert actions in the battle of Lugano, will be playing the tunes for the tutes to spread their cheeks.

[Vagabundo1]

Pernoite, BBFS, 500 r.

So Vagabundo is doing pernoite. Having stopped drinking and working out more. Our hero is going on 3 hours of fucking the latest negra. A high % of negras from prives and VM will BBFS. I told her 300 pernoite, when she got into the love shack, she upsold me to 500, but that's nothing, so I slid my bratwurst into her negra pink slit and commenced to plough her and we had a great fuck, suck, including on the balcony, where a chair positioned away from the balcony makes a great spot to fuck, with weed and white wine, tea, and Felipe ret full albums on the ryobi speakers and again, thanks to General Palcon, Corporal Vagabundo has batteries. We then ordered some bk, and am watching Netflix.

Good night.

Tomorrow DJ Vagabundo will be playing 4 x 4, and Smokersrule will be there, along with his girlfriend, who will be wearing a strapon.

Monday, sergeant flight surgeon DJ Vagabundo, swiss naval special warfare, attacked td33 with ISG member tboy2121 with his bodyguard Colombian frank, and the three amigos fucked the usual suspects from top to bottom, then went to vanetti, then to hotel Atlántico tower, then to 116, where a hot little negra, Nicole, teased sergeant DJ Vagabundo, who had been promoted and awarded the swiss navy cross for pulling a wounded teammate out of an ambush. After some further patrols with prime minister jimmyboy99, swiss banking authority, and stargazer, the team moved to 4 x 4, where they were treated badly by a dancer named Yasmin who was quite the ****. We will send in some black pip layers to get medieval on her ass, haha.

[Xpartan]

Only saw one in the photo; which the guy says he's not 100 percent sure.

Me being that guy, you're correct, LOL.

But right above on the same search page you can see RioBob confirming the HJ nature of that establishment.

In any case, you've got your answer.

Just to make sure you understand I'm not patronizing you (sorry if I gave you this impression).

When you ask a question you might get a narrow answer to that particular question, nothing else.

When you search for an answer, you get the answer to your question and wealth of other information that can help make your trip unforgettable.

As Senhor Vagabundo and other veterans have said.

Start with the reports of distinction.

Read the replies and discussions based on these reports.

Search for the terms that interest you -- the search engine here is quite good.

Read the local gparenadotnet forum. It's amazing how far Google Translate has come.

Ask questions after you've done your homework, and people will be happy to help.

Travel to Rio and have the time of your life.

Write the report.

Good luck!

[TravelGuy79]

As Xpartan noted, Arpoador the very small point joining Copacabana and Ipanema is a very good choice. Familiarize yourself with a map of Copacabana and Ipanema. You will see the East side of Ipanema is basically joined to the Southwest side of Copacabana. So don't overthink it. It's all right there. Walking back and forth during the day is no big deal. Going to one beach or the other is no big deal.

Some guys like staying down at the opposite end (Northeast) of Copacabana due to its proximity to Mabs and Dolce Vita. Since I do not recommend walking around at night and choose to take Ubers instead, there really isn't a reason for me to stay at that end of Copacabana.

Thank you for that advice I will definitely check that area out. Sorry for those that got annoyed by asking the same question twice a few weeks apart but I'm just tying to get as much knowledge as I can to make my first Brazil trip nice. Its my first trip since Pattaya In Feb. Of 2020 and exited to escape work life for a couple weeks. I was definitely a little timid about my first trip to East Asia but the great advice really prepared me and I ended up having a fantastic time. I would've loved to go back but Covid makes that impossible now but I'm excited to try a new area of the world.

[Vagabundo1]

I did think about buying a shorty websuit shirt at decathlon when I went there with stargazer the other day. The water temperatures are such that it would make it more comfortable. I will probably try double rash guards for a next step though. I try to keep my cloths to a minimum so, theoretically, I could take off on an hours notice.

Great tips on what to bring, I will bring rash guards and other stuff with me, I would have forgotten those without reading your posts. I see some kitesurfing pictures near posto 1 in Barra da Tijuca. It makes me wonder if I should bring wetsuit

[Jimmy Boy 99]

Went to 156 Rio Branco about 4 PM. 6 of 8 girls at Dudas (3320) were busy, which surprised me as I thought that would be a slow time, so left. Also went to check out Lolas (3225) but it closed up shop. Went to Bel Prazer at 185 instead.