Rio de Janeiro Reports

[The Cane]

A certain stench wafted in the air as I ascended the staircase into Termas 502. Yes, now we've taken a step closer into the dirty underbelly of mongering in Rio de Janeiro, Brazil. It will be totally worth it if I can find another "unicorn" up in here I reminded myself. You see, during my first several trips to Rio, I pretty much stuck with the Tier 1 termas. It took me a while to venture out and step off of the beaten path into more unknown territory, especially for tourists. And when I did, man was I rewarded!

Her name was Gabby (pictured), and she was totally everything I like most when it comes to a branca. Really pretty face, long blonde hair, big eyelashes, attractive nails, nice stature, and a big booty! Plus dirty, nasty in the room! Gabby seemed to be totally out of place in a club like 502. Not just that she was a branca, but that she was so, so much hotter than any other tute who was there (a 9 on my scale). What's she doing here I thought? She was with somebody else when I arrived, and at the same time looking over and grinning at me. Dude left with her to go for a session. I was determined to get on her next, and I did too! When she came back, I literally competed with other mongers in there to get here attention, and I was the lucky winner. And this girl starts to rock my world immediately, looking me dead in the eye and saying, "I like Black Label. And tonight, you are going to be my Black Label"! Damn these Brazilian tutes say and do the darndest things LOL! No question but that I was going to session with Gabby, and after a few drinks we were up in the room fucking. Gabby put on a good PSE performance, saying and doing the kind of stuff I like, including getting butt fucked. When we both got back to the boite, Gabby gave me a big wet kiss. Then, it could not have been more than 5 minutes before she was going to do another room with another horny monger. The girl was hot! She made all our dicks get hard LOL! Glad I had my turn on her.

So every since that time, I have always made it point when in Rio to stop in on 502 at least once. Just to see if I can find me another Gabby. Another unicorn. But sadly, each time I have failed! On this particular Monday in September 2019, I would say there were about 12 girls there when I arrived early around 6:30 pm. That number remained pretty steady for the couple of hours that I remained. I would say that at least 3 or 4 of the girls rated about a 7. But the others were simply just mostly unattractive or fat. After a while, one of the girls sat next to me, and asked me on Google Translate if I was waiting for somebody in particular. I replied, "Yes, I am. The rare unicorn". She playfully hit me on the arm hehehe! I was willing to hang in there a few hours. Have some drinks. See what might happen. Will the unicorn show up? But alas, no unicorns in 502 on this night! Maybe it was a once and only, never to happen again, kind of thing. I'm feeling like Linus during Halloween waiting for the Great Pumpkin LOL!

I wasn't willing to spend all night waiting around for a unicorn to show at Termas 502. Finished several drinks and got out of there. I decided to take a walk up Rua do Alfandega, just to see what I might find. As I walked along, I heard some loud music blaring from another bar. I thought to myself, "There's some pussy in that place. I know it. A monger just knows where and how to sniff out the pussy, and I know there's some pussy up them stairs"! The staircase was long and steep, just like at 502. Got up there, and sure enough it was a pussy place! I had no clue what the name of it was, so I used Google Translate to ask one of the 5 or so tutes in there. She didn't seem to know herself, and had to ask somebody! She then typed in "119 Showhouse". Like I said, there were maybe 5 tutes there, with the optics ranging from about 7 to butt ugly (like the one who I asked about the name since she was unoccupied with a client). There was no entrada fee, and a bottle of beer was $R10. There was a pricing chart on the wall. I saw that 1 hour with a girl was listed at $R160. That's about $40 USD. Low price, but also low quality. The ugly one who I asked about the name of the bar asked me if I wanted to fuck, or was I just there to drink. I assured her that it was the latter LOL! Had my one cerveja, took a leak, and left.

OK, so now what am I going to do? I realized that I had not eaten all day, and I was hungry. I did not see too many places around that I was familiar with. There was some open-air Brazilian place, but I wanted to make sure I went someplace where I would like what I bought. There was a McDonald's around the way, so I went to that. Ate. Now what? Well, I knew there were other joints in the Centro area that I could go to in the evening. But, for some reason, I just wasn't "feeling" it. I wasn't feeling Rio. This is supposed to be my number 1 mongering destination, but things are "off". I decided to retreat back to my room. Come back to fight another day. Tomorrow. See if I can do something then to rekindle the magic. Like this guy (and VilaMimosa) said, maybe it's true:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BPls...rt_radio=1&t=5

[The Cane]

Also someone said they pay 10 x amore than 400 R in their home US city. 4000 R or $1000 Usd. I have a lot of money but I could never pay that. Ever - because even though I have lots of $ now, I grew up poor and could never shake that.

To correct the record, I did not say that I actually pay 10 times as much. I said it would cost 10 times as much in my city for the top talent per my tastes. What it costs and what I'm willing to pay are two different things. I absolutely don't pay that. I go to Brazil instead and pay 10 times less (yes, that's a good deal in my mind)! And you've got the math wrong. What the porn star charged me here in Rio was $R400 (not $R4000) for two hours (not one). So, that's roughly $50 per hour. Using that as the hourly rate then, 10 times as much would be $500 per hour, not the $1,000 you stated. Either way, whether it's $1,000 per hour or $500 per hour, I'm not paying that kind of money out to a tute either! Would rather load up on much cheaper sex during a nice vacation somewhere, which I'm going to be taking anyway.

[Putero1]

This tipping bullshit is out of control. They see westerners as stupid and weak and that's why they do it.

If you can't afford to pay your own ride from the airport and shack up with hags to save money, I can understand that 400 Reais may be a lot for you. Seems The Cane is doing just fine. Certainly appreciate the reports.

As for me, I paid 450 Euros at a place in Switzerland for a romantic fantasy with a Brazilian nota doze. The room was fantastic as was the experience. I would do it again tomorrow. On the other hand, I have been to Vila Mimosa once and have no plans to return.

People pay what they want to pay. If it makes you feel better to pay 800 R or 400 R, then "do you," because that is where you are at in your head. But for each of you that overpays, there are as many who pay the same girl half, and some who pay nothing. In my case, I decided that paying nothing is too expensive. However, I know, I always know when I am paying too much because you lose respect from the girl. Just like Dave1111 said. So actually when you pay too much, you get less. Also someone said they pay 10 x amore than 400 R in their home US city. 4000 R or $1000 Usd. I have a lot of money but I could never pay that. Ever - because even though I have lots of $ now, I grew up poor and could never shake that. [Deleted by Admin]

[Exec Talent]

Don't worry about it. Paying Reais $400 completa for a hot escort is the going rate. If she's a porn star, that's a bonus.

I agree with you on the clinicas. If this was the SP thread, we might start a war.

If you can't afford to pay your own ride from the airport and shack up with hags to save money, I can understand that 400 Reais may be a lot for you. Seems The Cane is doing just fine. Certainly appreciate the reports.

As for me, I paid 450 Euros at a place in Switzerland for a romantic fantasy with a Brazilian nota doze. The room was fantastic as was the experience. I would do it again tomorrow. On the other hand, I have been to Vila Mimosa once and have no plans to return.

[WyattEarp]

What irks me more is comments about how much a monger pays, and it's why I rarely talk about prices. I mean, I think that sometimes people are just a bit much. So, I pay $R800 an hour for a hot tute at Scandallo in Sao Paulo, and that's way too much for some guys. OK, I get it. Then I get to Rio, and now I'm paying half that at $R400 (less than half really if you include the entrada, consumo, and love hotel charge), but getting twice as much time for "completa" service per Brazilian standards, and still that's too much?

Don't worry about it. Paying Reais $400 completa for a hot escort is the going rate. If she's a porn star, that's a bonus.

I agree with you on the clinicas. If this was the SP thread, we might start a war.

[VilaMimosa]

I went to Solarium last weekend. For whatever reason, I've always liked to visit Solarium on a Saturday. Saturday is Solarium day, so that's when I went. I got there early around 6:30 pm with one thought on my mind. Tonight, I'm feeling like a blonde. I'm wanting a loira branca for anal sex. Solarium has a reputation for being a terma where you can find blondes, and with good reason. However, I was disappointed on the night that I went. I saw only three. One was way too heavy, the other one just did not appeal to me physically, and the third one was just too much of an obvious fake who wasn't pulling it off well. No blondes for The Cane on that night.

The vibe in the boite was good though! Much better than the depressing scene I found at Centaurus. The bar area for Solarium is really tiny though, so it doesn't take much to fill it up. When I arrived, I would say there were twelve girls there, and maybe about what? Ten guys? Within a couple of hours, there were at least 25 girls there, and maybe 20 clients. A large group of Japanese men came in, so that helped. The most attractive girl there according to my standards was this really pretty morena. An easy solid 8 on my scale. The problem was that I had just had that the night before at Centaurus. Well, Taish at Centaurus turned out to be a branca with a really deep, deep tan (so harmful to her skin), but hell she looked just like a morena. I mean she and the one I was eyeing at Solarium looked like they could have been related.

The trill is gone baby.

I got you you're right it's not like 10-15 years ago and it never will be.

4 x 4 or any other place is the same no more 9's and 10's.

[The Cane]

I went to Solarium last weekend. For whatever reason, I've always liked to visit Solarium on a Saturday. Saturday is Solarium day, so that's when I went. I got there early around 6:30 pm with one thought on my mind. Tonight, I'm feeling like a blonde. I'm wanting a loira branca for anal sex. Solarium has a reputation for being a terma where you can find blondes, and with good reason. However, I was disappointed on the night that I went. I saw only three. One was way too heavy, the other one just did not appeal to me physically, and the third one was just too much of an obvious fake who wasn't pulling it off well. No blondes for The Cane on that night.

The vibe in the boite was good though! Much better than the depressing scene I found at Centaurus. The bar area for Solarium is really tiny though, so it doesn't take much to fill it up. When I arrived, I would say there were twelve girls there, and maybe about what? Ten guys? Within a couple of hours, there were at least 25 girls there, and maybe 20 clients. A large group of Japanese men came in, so that helped. The most attractive girl there according to my standards was this really pretty morena. An easy solid 8 on my scale. The problem was that I had just had that the night before at Centaurus. Well, Taish at Centaurus turned out to be a branca with a really deep, deep tan (so harmful to her skin), but hell she looked just like a morena. I mean she and the one I was eyeing at Solarium looked like they could have been related.

Not seeing the blondie I was looking for, and not wanting to repeat with somebody who looked like what I had enjoyed the night before, I settled in with some drinks and a couple of appetizers to see who might show up. After a few hours of waiting and seeing, nobody I wanted showed, so I decided to cut out of there and come back to the hotel. I went up to the hotel bar to have a look around when I got back. I had heard that sometimes ladies of the evening could be found up there. I didn't see any, but granted it was still quite early in the evening. It was cold and window up there, so I decided to just go for a nice long walk along Avenida Atlantica. This is something I like to do in Rio. I walked all the way down to MABS, where I chose to stop and order a couple of more appetizers. Well, they call them appetizers at these restaurants, but some of the portions are just so huge that I can't finish them all. Of course, being a monger, I took some time time check out the talent. Although still kind of early, there was some talent on the stroll. Maybe as many as 10 tutes, and there were about 3 or 4 of them that I thought were kind of cute! Solid 7's. One of them winked at me as I ate my food LOL! There were also some clearly fat and washed up ones. I wasn't seeing anything good enough to keep my interest. Ate, paid, and out of there!

After paying up at MABS, I decided to roll over to Barbarella. This is another one of those "love" or "hate to love" places for most Rio mongers (primarily the latter I think). On my very first trip to Rio way back when, this place used to be packed to the gills with tricks and tutes! And I'm talking you could find 8's and 9's up in there, with an occasional 10. My routine was I would go to Help and not see anybody I liked, then get myself over to Barbarella where I could pull somebody late to take back to my hotel room for sexual relations, usually an attractive blonde. Well on this night, oh man how depressing! Even worse than at Centaurus! Maybe only 5 bored girls, and not even that many men on average at any one time! I did see a blonde who came in after a while. She looked good from a distance. But when I finally got her attention and got her to come to my table, her face looked kind of "used up" and past its prime, and she reeked of really bad cigarette smoke from head to toe. Nope! Not about to happen. Looks like this is going to be a bust of a night.

I finished up my two drinks and headed back to the hotel. I was thinking. Thinking, thinking, thinking! Something is missing in Rio now. Something is "wrong". Is it the place? Or, is it me? I actually think it's a little bit of both. Yes, I guess that with a certain amount of trips, the novelty and the excitement can wear off. But, I think it's more than that though. That "vibe". It's missing. It's gone. And the talent. It's not as good as when I first came. I'm talking about finding 8's and 9's at termas like Centaurus and Monte Carlo. At Barbarella too, even if some guys did view it as kind of a "clip joint". I don't know. I'm just not having the kind of a mind-blowing time in Rio as I have in the past. I don't know. Maybe it's time to think about taking a break from coming to Rio again for awhile. I just don't know. Maybe the scene in and around Copacabana really is on its death knell. I hope things will be better in Centro. If I go to 4 X 4 and find that sucks too, then I know it will be time to blow this popsicle stand!

[The Cane]

C'mon Man! Don't bust The Cane's chops over a throwaway comment. He writes a lot (mostly good stuff) and I understood what he was trying to say. I'm not sure he realizes that most porn girls don't make a lot of money from filming. I'm not even sure they make $1,000 per scene, but it's not worth analyzing.

Actually, I do understand that, although I can honestly say I didn't know that it was as low as $100 in Brazil or Mexico. And you're right about even the $1,000. Only a bigger, established star in the States is going to get that kind of money. I do know some things about the American porn industry believe me. A lot in fact! I research and read about that shit LOL!

What irks me more is comments about how much a monger pays, and it's why I rarely talk about prices. I mean, I think that sometimes people are just a bit much. So, I pay $R800 an hour for a hot tute at Scandallo in Sao Paulo, and that's way too much for some guys. OK, I get it. Then I get to Rio, and now I'm paying half that at $R400 (less than half really if you include the entrada, consumo, and love hotel charge), but getting twice as much time for "completa" service per Brazilian standards, and still that's too much? Give me a break. Look, that's 10 times less than what I would pay per hour in my American city for what I like, with far greater service!

And the clinicas? OK yes, they are a deal money-wise, but only if you like mostly 5's and 6's. I don't, and I'm not going to come all the way to Brazil just to bang 5's and 6's. I've been to enough clinicas already to know that nobody is going to get away with telling me that the same high optics found in the nightclubs can be found with consistency in the clinicas too. It cannot, as I have seen with my own eyes, so I pay what I can afford to in order to acquire what I want. And that's to fuck lots of pretty girls (7's and up) in their butt holes!

Another thing I want to point out too. It's not just tourist money that is propping up clubs like Scandallo and Cafe Photo. Places like that would not last without Brazilian men patronizing them with their money too. As has been said many times before, there is sometimes a tendency to overvalue the importance of tourist money when it comes to the impact of mongering in any economy. You ordinarily need the locals to be in on it first, or else the business cannot be sustained, and it will fold. If you go to a place like Scandallo, it's mostly Brazilian people in there who are spending the money on eating, drinking, and fucking. Not a gringo tourist like me.

Mongering is like politics in that first and foremost, it's all local. If there is no local skin (cash) in the game, then in most normal circumstances a place like a Scandallo or a Cafe Photo or a Bomboa is going to fail and have to close its doors. Don't blame the tourists mongers for those high Scandallo prices. Blame it on the locals! And if you too want to play with them, then you got to pay! Up!

[WyattEarp]

C'mon Man! Don't bust The Cane's chops over a throwaway comment. He writes a lot (mostly good stuff) and I understood what he was trying to say.

I'm not sure he realizes that most porn girls don't make a lot of money from filming. I'm not even sure they make $1,000 per scene, but it's not worth analyzing.

[The Cane]

I recently had a two-hour session in my hotel room with a "ruiva" named Sophia. I have a weakness for attractive redheads, so when I saw her ad, I decided to give her a try. I'm glad I did. Sophia has been featuring on www.riosexsite.com. You can't see her face there, but when she showed up, I was satisfied with her total appearance, including her pretty face. I have found Rio Sex Site to be one of the best escort sites I have tried anywhere in the world. This is also where I found Elisa Sanches. The pictures have been legit, the girls are active (not lots of stale or fake ads and photos), and the girls I contacted on the site (a handful) all got back to me. I have sessioned with two from there, and I have been pleased with both of them. I turned down one of the hot blondes because she told me she didn't do anal, and I really wanted anal from her if I was going to do her. At least she was honest.

At 22 years of age, Sophia is a very young university student, but I can tell you that she has a solid head on her shoulders, and is enjoying what she's doing! I was very impressed with her intelligence, thoughtfulness, and aim to please. She was a little vixen in bed too who gave good BBBJ / CIM service, and liked a good, hard pounding from multiple positions. Lots of kissing too for those of you who require DFK. We did not do anal, but she will consider it on a case-by-case basis. Depends on size. Now, I like to spend some time talking to these girls if I can. I always learn something interesting, including things about themselves, their family life, why they're escorting, stuff about the sex the industry, and what their plans are for the future.

For example, she explained to me that one reason why Rio Sex Site is one of the best is because the girls have to pay $R700 (I believe that's monthly) to keep an ad posted on there, whereas some other sites are garbage and full of fakes because it's free to advertise on them. An ad fee of $R700 is considered to be expensive in Brazil, so if you see a girl on Rio Sex Site, then she's one of the ones who is serious about what she's doing, and she's making good money to be able to consistently afford to advertise her services. Sophia has been escorting for about a year now, and may seek to take a break by the end of the current university academic year. I rate her overall appearance a 7, and her performance an 8. If interested, you can get her contact details at www.riosexsite.com.

[JuveStadium]

This idea was in my bucket list for quite a while.

What a mess with p stars?

What stars? They're just girls who fuck in front of cam.

If you want porn"stars"than go to Sao Paulo.

No one of them works at prives in centro.

For me the best one was Monica Santhiago when she was in her prime about 10 years ago.

The one I like is funky bunda mulher melancia.

Enternational got point greetings from VM.

[The Cane]

I was just saying that she would still not make much in American porn and would have to fuck on the side regardless of which porn industry she worked in. And it costs way more to live in Los Angeles where the majority of American porn is made, than to live in Rio. Bottom line is that one is not going to make a living just by doing porn.

I understand that, and that's exactly what I told her, and she seemed to have no clue. She said, "I didn't know that". Geez! But stop and think about it a minute. To earn $1,000 a shoot like a top star in the States would be to earn 10 times what she earns in Brazil for a shoot with the same star status in her country! Now, who wouldn't want to earn 10 times their pay for their job? I know I would! As you say, there is the reality of the cost of living though.

But then again, think about it some more. Suppose she only did one shoot a week, earning $1,000 a shoot. That's $4,000 in a month. Many honest, hardworking people don't earn that much. You won't get rich, which is what I told her, but you can more than survive in LA off of that. To make "comfortable money", I agree with you that she would have to fuck on the side. Do stripping (which she mentioned). Show up at shows and conventions and sign autographs. Sell stuff online. It's a lot of hard work, and how many girls can really keep all of that going for how long? Before their bodies and souls start to break down?

Porno stars, especially the women, mostly have a short shelf-life. They are a dime a dozen! Used up and thrown away. I told her to not keep holding on to some false dream of making it big and getting rich off of doing porn in America. There are plenty of others who have come and gone before her. Used up, trashed, and left broken. Hell, I think it would be better to quit the porn altogether if one can, and just be totally independent doing the escorting. Or, maybe get behind the camera versus in front of it. But even then, it's a cut throat industry, and you really have to work to set yourself apart to be successful and make some money, even from behind the camera.

[Mr Enternational]

Thanks for reading and actually comprehending what I wrote. I think.

The point is whereas an American porn actress might get $1,000 a scene, Elisa is getting only $100 for hers. So, she absolutely is hustling in the escort side of things to make ends meet since she doesn't get much from the porn here in Brazil. What Mr. E finds to be "false" about that, I don't know. If he is insinuating that I was somehow saying that working in porn in America would mean no more need to escort, that is false, as I was not.

Sorry. I guess it gets lost in the way you keep writing it. You attributed the reason to her fucking on the side to be that she does not make much in Brazilian porn. Then you say that you are not saying she still would not be doing side fucking if she worked in the American industry. So the Brazilian industry is NOT the reason she is doing side fucking., since she would do the same in another industry

She's not making shit for what she does, and she knows it, even though she has won multiple awards as a top Brazilian porno star. That's why she's hustling and escorting on the side to earn money and wishing that she could break into the American porn industry where more cash is to be had.

You then go on to say that she wants to break into American porn to make more, insinuating that if she did that, then she would not longer need to fuck on the side as a supplement to a porn income.

I was just saying that she would still not make much in American porn and would have to fuck on the side regardless of which porn industry she worked in. And it costs way more to live in Los Angeles where the majority of American porn is made, than to live in Rio. Bottom line is that one is not going to make a living just by doing porn.

[WyattEarp]

Joyce Oliveira when she was at 4 x 4 in '06.

Quite a few 4 x 4 girls did porn during or after their tenure there. I don't know of anyone working there currently who has shot porn scenes.

[The Cane]

As for what's a deal and what's not a deal, that's a matter of perspective and what you're used to. If you were just in Sao Paulo at Scandallo fucking really hot chicks for $R800 an hour (plus entrance fees and consumption fees), then next you're fucking somebody else who you find to be hot for two hours at $R400 (with no entrance fee and consumption fees), well that is definitely going to look and feel like a deal. If you live in the States in a city where the hottest girls want to charge $500 an hour and deliver much less service than somebody who is charging you only $100 for two hours to let you jizz in her mouth and fuck her in the ass, then yes for me that's definitely a deal (including not having to worry about the legality of it all).

And let's not forget those love hotel room charges in Sao Paulo either! So no entrada, no consumo, no room charge, I don't have to leave my hotel and spend cab fare to go get it, and completa (DFK, BBBJ, CIM, cunnilingus, anal sex and play) at $50 dollars an hour with a hot Brazilian girl? Uh yeah, that sounds like a deal to me! And if that deal is too rich for somebody else, then that's their problem.