Rio de Janeiro Reports

[Mr Enternational]

The dollar vs Real was bad area 2011 I think. But I think you failed to understand the point that I was making. Brazillian will update prices while comparing with P4P cost in the global market with the global market. For instance, I just bought Samsung Galaxy 8+ in UK for 800 British Pounds and you can purchase it for US $1100 in the USA. It will cost you 3300 Reals in Brazil. The Brazilian p4 p owners are smart enough to update their prices while comparing with the cost and level of sex service in Germany, France, Ukraine etc. Wake up man. They are not stupid anymore. Welcome to Globalization.

What are you talking about man? Samsung Galaxy? That has nothing to do with comparing costs or currency changes. Sure there can be an amount of price discrimination over different markets, but for the most part that has to do with import taxes.

I still say it is a ridiculous "theory". In 2015 and 2016 when the dollar gained against the euro, did all the FKK owners in Germany start increasing their prices? No fuck shop in country A decides their prices on what is going on in countries B through Z. You guys act like these places are giant corporations. It is a hoarhouse with 30 chicks working there where a guy can go get his rocks off for 40 minutes.

Talk about overthinking. Will someone that has boots on the ground just go ask these guys why they are moving the prices up instead of giving into all the economic theory of hoarhouses stuff.

[FuckAfMedDig]

I think it was 90 BRL back in June. If you really need to know the exact price give them a call or send an email.

If Ivan and the fat controller in Monte Carlo (good cop / bad cop) want to attract people again make it free to get in or charge a small fee towards consumacao.

Charging nearly 100 reais to get in excludes many and is totally unrealistic,especially considering the very lazy recruitment of girls going on.

I could see it closing by 2018 if it carries on in this vein.

Solarium seems to fare slightly better allthough more expensive and out of curiosity, how is Centaurus getting along?.

If we are on the tier 1 analysis,4 x 4 wasnt bad-Cancun lacked talent as usual and T65 shouldn't have bothered reopening.

Playground already shut (tier 1/ tier 2) again and Cafe Romance there isn't enough feedback on so can't be that great.

Back to the gutter again for me.

[Komo753]

It's really quite simple. Foreign exchange rates are part of the price mechanism. Sometimes the FX rate leads where local prices more sensitive to international markets will go up. Sometimes FX rates lag whereby the currency devalues because local prices are increasing unsustainably faster than the relative international markets. One thing for sure is there a correlation between prices and the FX rate for an economy like Brasil that is not big enough or independent enough to be immune from this effect.

It's correct that you'll see this effect manifest first in things like hotels and real estate. Particularly in desirable locations in cities and coast front. If you see a currency massively devalue (let's use the recent Argentina experience for example), your best bet is to get down there immediately before local prices adjust. Believe me, the local prices do adjust sooner than later. Good luck trying to get someone to sell you an attractive property at the local currency price set before the devaluation.

Real estate in Rio is dropping, not only termas are rising the price, I saw many restaurants raising their price, Brazil is a country with much tax especially when you export, if the real drops the prices will be more expensive for exported products not for local pussies. I think the problem is only in Rio, Rio is the most expensive city in Brazil. Taxes are worse in Brazil nowadays, if the price is more expensive, it is not because of the real, it is because of competition, there are less termas. In the past there were more termas, clubs and brothels that worked well so the prices were better because they compete.

[Pipe Layer99]

I will be in Rio at the end of August. How much was in entrance fee to Monte Carlo?

I think it was 90 BRL back in June. If you really need to know the exact price give them a call or send an email.

[Komo753]

No dj in Monte Carlo means no vibe starter. Place is finished if they can't even afford a dj.

Total silence and a bunch of plastic girls with too much make up. Sounds as exciting as Copa beach on a rainy day.

RIP MC good times were had.

It is time they change their price so that they attract more Brazilians instead of trying to attract gringos.

[FuckAfMedDig]

I would not be surprised if a termas like Monte Carlo is hurting, The Economy is very bad, so most brazilians Do not frequent these termas like they use too, Also there is not alot of mongering tourist like back in the early 2000's to pick up the slack, because the P4 P is somewhat dead, and Traveling to Brazil is expensive.

No dj in Monte Carlo means no vibe starter. Place is finished if they can't even afford a dj.

Total silence and a bunch of plastic girls with too much make up. Sounds as exciting as Copa beach on a rainy day.

RIP MC good times were had.

[Jubby007]

The dollar was not 3 to 1 in 2007 and 2008.

The dollar vs Real was bad area 2011 I think. But I think you failed to understand the point that I was making. Brazillian will update prices while comparing with P4P cost in the global market with the global market. For instance, I just bought Samsung Galaxy 8+ in UK for 800 British Pounds and you can purchase it for US $1100 in the USA. It will cost you 3300 Reals in Brazil. The Brazilian p4 p owners are smart enough to update their prices while comparing with the cost and level of sex service in Germany, France, Ukraine etc. Wake up man. They are not stupid anymore. Welcome to Globalization.

[Rahsta]

On a quick pass through on my way back to the the States, I stopped by Rio to get a feel of the current climate. Arriving from Lisbon just before 18 hs local, I went to Copa, Delirio to be exact, just around 20 hs, to have a look - 3 garotas in the line up. Chose one for 30 minutes before going to Monte Carlo. By 22 hs there were 7 guys including me and 19 garotas. The climate was blah as there has not been a DJ for nearly two months I am being told and the girls are simply sitting waiting for someone to approach or to just pass the time. Definitely a different time. I understand all that is going with the local economy but Monte Carlo is hurting, and hurting bad. Just as I imagine with many other establishments. I am on the way to Mabs now just to take a look. I won't be surprised if it is ruin also.

I will be in Rio at the end of August. How much was in entrance fee to Monte Carlo?

[ForceSteeler]

On a quick pass through on my way back to the the States, I stopped by Rio to get a feel of the current climate. Arriving from Lisbon just before 18 hs local, I went to Copa, Delirio to be exact, just around 20 hs, to have a look - 3 garotas in the line up. Chose one for 30 minutes before going to Monte Carlo. By 22 hs there were 7 guys including me and 19 garotas. The climate was blah as there has not been a DJ for nearly two months I am being told and the girls are simply sitting waiting for someone to approach or to just pass the time. Definitely a different time. I understand all that is going with the local economy but Monte Carlo is hurting, and hurting bad. Just as I imagine with many other establishments. I am on the way to Mabs now just to take a look. I won't be surprised if it is ruin also.

I would not be surprised if a termas like Monte Carlo is hurting, The Economy is very bad, so most brazilians Do not frequent these termas like they use too, Also there is not alot of mongering tourist like back in the early 2000's to pick up the slack, because the P4 P is somewhat dead, and Traveling to Brazil is expensive.

[Rahsta]

I'm not surprised that you are anticipating to not stay Brazil in over a month in future. Back in 2007 and 08, I have made several trips to Brazil and rented apartments for a 3 to 6 month contracts from local Rio property owners for really cheap. At that time, I used to rent it for nearly Real 1200 per month (US $400) for a furnished 1 bedroom near help disco area. Everyday, I used to go out of my mind over deciding what to do each day as I had endless options seven days a week from several escort services, Termas, bars, and Help Disco. The Rio P4P scene was at its peak during 2006-2009. I used to come to Rio for a long 3 to 6 months long vacation to get away from the world and spend my time peacefully in this paradise. Those were the best days of my life.

It looked like you got bored in a month and I don't blame you. The P4P market had not been the same and the attitude of the girls changed due to increased level of competition and lower income. Nearly, all the escort service agencies, Help Disco, few Termas, Balcony bar and other left over options have shut down permanently for the past few years. The economy is not the same anymore. I had seen an increase in Brazilian escorts in London escort sites asking for 150 British pounds which is equivalent to 600 Reals per hour and they have no problem getting clients who can afford this price here.

Brazil P4P industry compete with the global p4 p market, thus they increase the prices so they can earn the same amount in US dollars. Just two years ago, a one bedroom in Copacabana was around 600 thousand Reals and now it's 900 k Reals because the owners want to sell it with the same US $ market value. The similar strategy is executed by the Terma or other P4P business owners.

The problem with the footwork is that it requires time to do your research. If someone has time and money to visit Brazil over 2 weeks, more power to you. However, due to the availability of very few options left, I think it's smart to stay there for max 2 weeks and enjoy Rio while it last.

The dollar was not 3 to 1 in 2007 and 2008.

[Diegoff61]

On a quick pass through on my way back to the the States, I stopped by Rio to get a feel of the current climate. Arriving from Lisbon just before 18 hs local, I went to Copa, Delirio to be exact, just around 20 hs, to have a look - 3 garotas in the line up. Chose one for 30 minutes before going to Monte Carlo. By 22 hs there were 7 guys including me and 19 garotas. The climate was blah as there has not been a DJ for nearly two months I am being told and the girls are simply sitting waiting for someone to approach or to just pass the time. Definitely a different time. I understand all that is going with the local economy but Monte Carlo is hurting, and hurting bad. Just as I imagine with many other establishments. I am on the way to Mabs now just to take a look. I won't be surprised if it is ruin also.

[Jubby007]

Just completed a month in Rio and is Rio on the p4p decline?-yes probably.

Can you still find super hot chicas there-surely.

It all depends on perspective but as far as p4p I have to say it has declined or maybe urbanized/gone independent/more girls working 3.4 spots as the big termas arent bringing in the bread.

I think you have to even more be willing to do the foot work in trash areas and other neighborhoods to find jewels.

The mainstream termas to me did not have the level of talent it did 3 years ago.

I did find 4 diamonds in the trash spots/ tier 3 termas / boates however.

I did break my mabs duck and found a few cute ones there too-reasonably priced..

I'm not surprised that you are anticipating to not stay Brazil in over a month in future. Back in 2007 and 08, I have made several trips to Brazil and rented apartments for a 3 to 6 month contracts from local Rio property owners for really cheap. At that time, I used to rent it for nearly Real 1200 per month (US $400) for a furnished 1 bedroom near help disco area. Everyday, I used to go out of my mind over deciding what to do each day as I had endless options seven days a week from several escort services, Termas, bars, and Help Disco. The Rio P4P scene was at its peak during 2006-2009. I used to come to Rio for a long 3 to 6 months long vacation to get away from the world and spend my time peacefully in this paradise. Those were the best days of my life.

It looked like you got bored in a month and I don't blame you. The P4P market had not been the same and the attitude of the girls changed due to increased level of competition and lower income. Nearly, all the escort service agencies, Help Disco, few Termas, Balcony bar and other left over options have shut down permanently for the past few years. The economy is not the same anymore. I had seen an increase in Brazilian escorts in London escort sites asking for 150 British pounds which is equivalent to 600 Reals per hour and they have no problem getting clients who can afford this price here.

Brazil P4P industry compete with the global p4 p market, thus they increase the prices so they can earn the same amount in US dollars. Just two years ago, a one bedroom in Copacabana was around 600 thousand Reals and now it's 900 k Reals because the owners want to sell it with the same US $ market value. The similar strategy is executed by the Terma or other P4P business owners.

The problem with the footwork is that it requires time to do your research. If someone has time and money to visit Brazil over 2 weeks, more power to you. However, due to the availability of very few options left, I think it's smart to stay there for max 2 weeks and enjoy Rio while it last.

[Mr Enternational]

Dude, I have an MBA so I'll stop there, but just know what we are talking about is a floating currency that isn't pegged to the dollar in a BRICS country (B is for Brazil).

Just to turn this into a pissing match, I have an MBA as well. In International Business. And wouldn't you know of all the places where I studied Brazil just happened to be one of them. But I will take note and remember that whatever happens to the real, the opposite will happen in the termas.

[WyattEarp]

You think that the Real getting decimated in the last few years didn't spurn them raising their prices? Hell yeah it did, of course it did and many hotels / rental apartments went total USD pegged to combat the currency fluctuations.

It's really quite simple. Foreign exchange rates are part of the price mechanism. Sometimes the FX rate leads where local prices more sensitive to international markets will go up. Sometimes FX rates lag whereby the currency devalues because local prices are increasing unsustainably faster than the relative international markets. One thing for sure is there a correlation between prices and the FX rate for an economy like Brasil that is not big enough or independent enough to be immune from this effect.

It's correct that you'll see this effect manifest first in things like hotels and real estate. Particularly in desirable locations in cities and coast front. If you see a currency massively devalue (let's use the recent Argentina experience for example), your best bet is to get down there immediately before local prices adjust. Believe me, the local prices do adjust sooner than later. Good luck trying to get someone to sell you an attractive property at the local currency price set before the devaluation.

[PatmarBeleza1]

This is all so pedestrian.

Has anyone gotten a pro to seduce a non pro?

Had the wife over in April at boteca Belmonte and I found a Morena Clara in the boteca. The non pro supposedly has a boyfriend, so I am thinking of sending some pros with weed to seduce the non pro in a weed fueled lesbian orgy which inevitably I participate in.