Rio de Janeiro Reports

[Komo753]

Rio De Janerio is still a gold mine, The Game has changed so you always have to adapt. Most recently when I visit Brazil I don't even mess with the Termas like 4 x 4 and Cancun like that, and I hardly ever mess with Mabs, Its nothing but gutter trash, and old ex Help Girls, I have seen girls work in Mabs that were working in help since 1992. Right now I'm cool with a few brazilian girls, I even know a famous funk singer that on the side she is willing to due something strange for some change.

The Funk Singer that I'm cool with, I fuck her and I also let her find me some girls for me, or I browse social media sites and let her contact the females for me, She of course she is brazilian so speaks Perfect fluent Portuguese, So my success rate is almost 95% that the girls that I contact will come to my apartment, unlike before when I would get alot of flakes which I can understand, my apartment was in Copacabana and alot of these girls live very far, I realize when it comes to women and meeting people on social media, It's easier for a female to trust another woman than a strange gringo using google translate..

Rio is dead not because of the crisis but because of the stupid corrupted police, lawyers, judges etc, when you open an brothel, you don't know what will happen. You have to know many termas pay the police to keep their business open, few year ago, 4 by4 was closed for two months because they had no money to pay the police.

Sao Paulo is in Brazil, mongering there is way better, many clubs, many girls from other states.

If the girls charged you, they are money bitches, in the termas many girls don't work everyday or they don't make clients everyday, in 4 by 4 there are girls that only work twice a month. 4 by4 is not strict the girls can come as they like. Unlike cancun, the girls seem to be more pro because they only do this job. In 4 by4 they have many girls, many girls don't come everyday.

I speak portuguese I don't have trouble picking regulars in lapa. That's why I can meet some termas girls without paying them, I only offer restaurant something like that and buy the show ticket for them etc or I pay them like 200 - 300 reais all night. Some terma girls I paid cash some I did not pay cash. Some terma girls tried to charged me more so I just answer I ll think and call you if I need you, there are bad roots everywhere.

[ForceSteeler]

Non-pro charging? If not a puta let say a piranha or papa-gringo. Not that it really matters.

IMO, the best sex in Brazil is given by non-pro's who f*cks without charging for the sex. Nothing beats the combination of easy regular brazilian girls and pro's to fulfill the urgent needs.

When I mean non-pros I'm talking about women that are not working and are not in the game like that, I have fucked a few non-pros for free from Tinder, but there usually either very average / overweight or just plain old (Late 30's and Early 40's).

If I want the really hot 9's and 10's, I will usually have to give them money for there cab and also if she is a really hot chick she is usually going to want something for her time, Maybe if I was fluent in Portuguese I can maybe get a really hot chick for free.

But I don't mind giving them $70-$100 bucks, for their time at the end of the day, I'm paying all this money for flights and flying all the way to Brazil, and spending a lot on hotel / apartments, so why make the big fuss about giving a really hot chick money. Back home in the matrix if I want a really hot brazilian chicks I'm going to spend money, a lot more than $100 bucks, when you factor taking her on dates, and dinner, etc. And that's if I hit the first night, alot matrix chicks want you to wait months before you even smell the pussy.

[Sperto]

I was fucking alot of Non-Pros and the sex was way better and the price was way cheaper

Non-pro charging? If not a puta let say a piranha or papa-gringo. Not that it really matters.

IMO, the best sex in Brazil is given by non-pro's who f*cks without charging for the sex. Nothing beats the combination of easy regular brazilian girls and pro's to fulfill the urgent needs.

[ForceSteeler]

4 by 4, the price is fixed, 360 reais an hour for any girl with room included, there is a shower in every room.

I am in Sao paulo, Sao Paulo is way better than Rio de Janeiro, more clubs, more different girls. If you speak Portuguese it is very easy to negotiate, nightlife is way better than rio, mongering in sao paulo is better than Rio de Janeiro.

Your goal is only to pick freelancers in the clubs brothels or fuck in the brothel rooms and go to the brothels without using robe and you like negotiate and enjoy nightlife, better to go to Sao Paulo. Mongering in Sao Paulo is way better than Rio de Janeiro (more variety and very easy to find european Brazilians (German and Italian) and japanese Brazilians if your goal is to enjoy beaches and daytime activities or go to brothels like FKK (termas) better to go to Rio de Janeiro.

Rio De Janerio is still a gold mine, The Game has changed so you always have to adapt. Most recently when I visit Brazil I don't even mess with the Termas like 4 x 4 and Cancun like that, and I hardly ever mess with Mabs, Its nothing but gutter trash, and old ex Help Girls, I have seen girls work in Mabs that were working in help since 1992. Right now I'm cool with a few brazilian girls, I even know a famous funk singer that on the side she is willing to due something strange for some change.

The Funk Singer that I'm cool with, I fuck her and I also let her find me some girls for me, or I browse social media sites and let her contact the females for me, She of course she is brazilian so speaks Perfect fluent Portuguese, So my success rate is almost 95% that the girls that I contact will come to my apartment, unlike before when I would get alot of flakes which I can understand, my apartment was in Copacabana and alot of these girls live very far, I realize when it comes to women and meeting people on social media, It's easier for a female to trust another woman than a strange gringo using google translate.

But Yeah Last Year when I was in Brazil, I was fucking hot brazilian chicks nothing but 9's and 10's, that would never set foot in a place like Mabs, or is not getting fucked by alot of men every month like the typical termas working girl. I was fucking alot of Non-Pros and the sex was way better and the price was way cheaper, Brazil is in a crisis now so its a gold mine, a lot of chicks willing to do something strange for some change.

So my advice if you're lazy like me and don't care to learn Portuguese, Try to find a down ass Brazilian chicks and have her find girls for you and give her a nice tip or if you're a newbie, I guess you can go to the termas and find a cool chicks and get her number and make connections that way!. You will find a lot of gems.

[FuckAfMedDig]

Dear all,

Any word on MC. From RTFF it appears it is closed or about to close. Can someone please provide an update. Also, few hotels are quite close to MC such as Olinda Rio. Anyone stayed there? Is it GFE.

Appreciate your input.

Cheers.

MC is still just about open but receiving p4 p resuscitation in the remote hope the vibe, the dj and the good times (rich gringoes / rich cariocas) come back.

IF you start seeing Ivan disguised in womens clothes and the fat controller as well you know the recruitment has gone officially down the drain and its time to run.

The favorite song of the talent at MC is Exodus by Bob Marley.

They all have it on rotation on their Samsungee 8.

Solarium and Centaurus wait with open arms like receiving a long lost daughter back in the fold.

Olinda is NOT a GF hotel.

None of the hotels on Avenida Atlantica really are apart from maybe very discreetly bringin one up in the daytime for a few hours providing she doesn't look like what she is and occasionally giving the security a

"propinha(tip) or a Guarana(not the SODA-this is slang for a bribe)-also known as a Cafezinha(a small coffee(a small "gift")!

There is a couple of nuggets to keep in your mind.

They all love a Guarana in Brazil wink wink.

Its very front line so keepng up appearances is important.

Remember the hotels make money from bullying us gringo mongerers into paying a guest fee blablabla.

Like their economy isnt already on its knees but this is the infamous Brazilian mentality in business so eloquently covered elsewhere.

Ignore the proximity to MC and go to nearby IBIS (posto 5 or 2) or Best Western (posto 2) or those types. There are a few on Siqueira Campos- Atlantico hotel is decent and roughly opposite Siqueria Campos station that is

GF as well providing you make

reservation for 2 upfront and tell them" my friend is coming another day".

This worked for me at Best Western Ipanema (Sol)

My first visit as a 100 % green newbie with zero portugues and no clue looking for Termas that had been shut for a year(Luomo) etc I stayed on Atlantica down the road from Copa Palace.NOT GF!lol

[FuckAfMedDig]

How much do the girls at 4 by 4 charge for an hour now? 400 reals? How about Mabs? Solarium? I am planning to go to Rio for the first time in November. Any info and suggestions will be very much appreciated.

There is actually no set answer to this as its dependent on you and how you treat the girl,how much she really likes you,how late it is and whether she had a customer that day-did a program-whether you live alot closer

than she does to work so an all nighter would make sense and also a bit of portugues will surely help but the guideline is:

As a complete newbie be prepared to be taken for a ride.

ID be very surprised if 4 x 4 girls quote you less than 400 to come bang-Mabs girls will try the same whilst offering the native speaking the same ass for less than half.

They can probably be bargained down a bit.

Centaurus / Solarium girls noticing you're fresh off the boat and can afford to go to Centaurus / Solarium will charge you up to and around 500 probably.

Please tell them they make half of that with a smile and go from there.

Tel them YOU WONT TELL NOBODY they accepted half and you will tell all the mongerers in and outside the place you paid 500 and it was amazing and you wil give their number to rich friends.

Gamesmanship.

This worked for me in a few spots and also in tier 2 spots like FLorida bar once where i astonishingly enough met a very hot negra from Meyer in Zona Norte who i repeated with a few times.

She wanted some intros to guys with money and wanted info and help to Europe and shed hit me off handsomely if I could so of course i could.



ID say start by not doing the super gringo wide-eyed thing and accept what they say-if you are a cool guy and treat them well and kindly and they like you-hopefully you will be able to get some cheaper take outs and some "normal dates" with the girls where you pay food / drinks / night out-it is very possible.

Stand your ground and this will be the good Rio habit created.

Remember the terma girls will try and charge you what you pay at the terma to come.

Remember they only make around 200-250 an hour for themselves in the good ones.

In the lower tier ones they make maybe 100 an hour.

Even in MC / Solarium where it says 300+ for an hour attributed to the girl (roughly) -on the bill- she has to pay a weekly amount to MC to keep her spot alot of times so that comes down to beforementioned averages.

If all else fails, hit the lower tier termas and pay much less to enjoy just as much and you might see me there doing just that!

[Komo753]

How much do the girls at 4 by 4 charge for an hour now? 400 reals? How about Mabs? Solarium? I am planning to go to Rio for the first time in November. Any info and suggestions will be very much appreciated.

4 by 4, the price is fixed, 360 reais an hour for any girl with room included, there is a shower in every room.

If you session before 6 pm you don't pay entrance.

Solarium is OK, there are many good looking girls, just the price is exaggerated, the rooms are not better than 4 by 4 and Cancun, if you session 40 minutes the price is around 500 reais in a cabin, only the entrance you pay 110 reais.

Mabs, most girls have been working there for many years, that is why there are always the same girls in this place, most of them are ugly or old, some girls also work in vila Mimosa the dirtiest puteiro in Rio de Janeiro. Mabs. Mabs is same girls all the times, most of them are dirty.

There are many clubs in Copacabana, I never go to Copacabana clubs because they are more a gringo trap that's why you don't see Brazilians there even in Mabs, the only Brazilians you see there, are the bitches, the staff, the beggars and the guys that try to take you to the club where they work.

If you are into black girls, low end termas are better, the rooms are clean and the bar is clean (t31 and 502 are good clubs and safe). If you are into whiter girls, high end termas are better (4 by 4 and solarium) there is only one black girl out of 50 girls. Most girls are white or light brown.

I am in Sao paulo, Sao Paulo is way better than Rio de Janeiro, more clubs, more different girls. If you speak Portuguese it is very easy to negotiate, nightlife is way better than rio, mongering in sao paulo is better than Rio de Janeiro.

Your goal is only to pick freelancers in the clubs brothels or fuck in the brothel rooms and go to the brothels without using robe and you like negotiate and enjoy nightlife, better to go to Sao Paulo. Mongering in Sao Paulo is way better than Rio de Janeiro (more variety and very easy to find european Brazilians (German and Italian) and japanese Brazilians if your goal is to enjoy beaches and daytime activities or go to brothels like FKK (termas) better to go to Rio de Janeiro.

[Wantoknow]

It is very easy to meet girls outside terma, you just have to know how to talk. All the termas are different, every guy is different.

From my experience, I prefer 4 by 4 over Cancun, the atmosphere is better, there are always more girls. Many people say 4 by 4 is more macho just to let you guys know we don't go to the termas for guys but we go for girls. It is very easy to meet and talk to the girls you like physically. Many new talents, more variety.

Cancun is very weak, the infrastructure is good but the atmosphere is very slow, I met some nice girls but never the girls I like physically. The girls seem to be less motivate and more tired, it is as if they don't like what to do.

They prefer old guys that have defunct penis over healthy men. They are lazy and no conversation, many girls have been working there for many years there. Not many new talents. The waiters look tired unlike 4 by 4. Cancun is often dead especially Monday and Tuesday.

How much do the girls at 4 by 4 charge for an hour now? 400 reals? How about Mabs? Solarium? I am planning to go to Rio for the first time in November. Any info and suggestions will be very much appreciated.

[Komo753]

I can't speak for PipeLayer99 or Komo753, but there is some game and communication involved. I always treat termas girls like I would a girlfriend. Brazilian girls especially seem to appreciate the allusion. Talk to the girl about what she likes to do, what music she enjoys. I will invite the girl to meet me and ask her what she likes to drink or eat. If she is chill, I might say we'll meet at the beach by my apartment. A sense of humor and a smile go a long way.

If all your doing is grabbing the girl in the terma, staring at her body and discussing anal and other sex acts in great deal, perhaps you won't get the girl to meet you outside the terma.

If you have game back home, all of this should be pretty intuitive for you. In Rio, you will have game and money working for you.

It is very easy to meet girls outside terma, you just have to know how to talk. All the termas are different, every guy is different.

From my experience, I prefer 4 by 4 over Cancun, the atmosphere is better, there are always more girls. Many people say 4 by 4 is more macho just to let you guys know we don't go to the termas for guys but we go for girls. It is very easy to meet and talk to the girls you like physically. Many new talents, more variety.

Cancun is very weak, the infrastructure is good but the atmosphere is very slow, I met some nice girls but never the girls I like physically. The girls seem to be less motivate and more tired, it is as if they don't like what to do.

They prefer old guys that have defunct penis over healthy men. They are lazy and no conversation, many girls have been working there for many years there. Not many new talents. The waiters look tired unlike 4 by 4. Cancun is often dead especially Monday and Tuesday.

[WyattEarp]

I can't speak for PipeLayer99 or Komo753, but there is some game and communication involved. I always treat termas girls like I would a girlfriend. Brazilian girls especially seem to appreciate the allusion. Talk to the girl about what she likes to do, what music she enjoys. I will invite the girl to meet me and ask her what she likes to drink or eat. If she is chill, I might say we'll meet at the beach by my apartment. A sense of humor and a smile go a long way.

If all your doing is grabbing the girl in the terma, staring at her body and discussing anal and other sex acts in great deal, perhaps you won't get the girl to meet you outside the terma.

If you have game back home, all of this should be pretty intuitive for you. In Rio, you will have game and money working for you.

[WorldWanderer]

Dear all,

Any word on MC. From RTFF it appears it is closed or about to close. Can someone please provide an update. Also, few hotels are quite close to MC such as Olinda Rio. Anyone stayed there? Is it GFE.

Appreciate your input.

Cheers.

[Eric Cartman]

Hello everyone,

Thank you for all of your reports, they have been very helpful. I have been to FKKS which were amazing and Tijuana which was a drag. I want to try Colombia and Brazil out so I was considering arriving in Bogota Friday Nov 17 for 3 days leaving Monday Nov 20 to Medellin for 3 days, then to Rio Nov 23 Thursday for 6 days and my final stop Sao Paulo for 6 days. I've been told Rio is best during the week and they have FKK style clubs. I am still a little confused on what to expect in Colombia. It sounds like they have FKK style clubs but smaller or I would have to find a prepaid. Any recommendations would be greatly appreciated. I decided to do this trip after visiting some local strip clubs that have had an influx of Cubans. So sexy compared to the other girls. Should I try and split the days more equally? Less days at Sao Paulo? Oh I am also a gringo.

You will have best success in Rio from Monday thru Friday visiting privees / clubs / boates in Centro and, if necessary, Zona Sul. I would only spend those days in Rio (come on a Sunday, leave on a Sat).

For SP, the clinicas are open on Saturdays and I believe some on Sundays, as well as during the week, so you can spend a weekend there with still opportunities to go out to moderately quality places.

Equal days seem like a good idea, given what I just said.

Consider using the domestic airports (SDU- CGH) from Rio to SP.

We all look forward to reading your reports on Rio here, and on SP in the SP forum.

[DukesFord]

Hello everyone,

Thank you for all of your reports, they have been very helpful. I have been to FKKS which were amazing and Tijuana which was a drag. I want to try Colombia and Brazil out so I was considering arriving in Bogota Friday Nov 17 for 3 days leaving Monday Nov 20 to Medellin for 3 days, then to Rio Nov 23 Thursday for 6 days and my final stop Sao Paulo for 6 days. I've been told Rio is best during the week and they have FKK style clubs. I am still a little confused on what to expect in Colombia. It sounds like they have FKK style clubs but smaller or I would have to find a prepaid. Any recommendations would be greatly appreciated. I decided to do this trip after visiting some local strip clubs that have had an influx of Cubans. So sexy compared to the other girls. Should I try and split the days more equally? Less days at Sao Paulo? Oh I am also a gringo.

[Pipe Layer99]

Exactly. ...I told her on the phone "you make 150 an hour at Afrodite minus what they take which prob aint much but you prob bag a 100 an hour".
I haggled with her about an all nighter -she was saying 400/500-I laughed.
I told her that she makes 180 an hour there tops so tryina charge me gringo prices meant she not diggin me like I dig her so lets leave it.
... I said you can come for 200.
She agreed happily-- bb and CIM. Stayed 6 hours.
I bought her sth from the kilo.
Next time she stayed the night for 200 at IBIS. Great time.
Anyway -moral of the story is-they all got stories-even the cool ones can go south. Some are cool for years then dissapear. Some you get tired off. Etc.
Live life and keep note.

Excactly. And yet some knuckleheads still don't get it! Laughing my ass off at the idiots.

[Bravo]

Only because your game is weak,. They can have the SAME price! The price for the Actual session, not including the room price. Figure the shit out.

I have had few girls come over from 4 x4. 1 girl fucked me for 100 reals including ass with 2 pops on a Saturday afternoon, and that for a short time 2 hours /2 pops. Another one fucked me all night for 150. In fact, the night I saw her at 4 x4, I was going with another girl. I told her I she came come to my place after work. AND she did come. She met me outside after 12.00, we went to eat in Centro. Had some Frango a Passarinho, fries and beer. Then I had everything, including her ass. And the next day in the afternoon.

If you can't get a terma girl to go with you for HER portion of the price, then that's your problem.

Thank you Pipe Layer, I am sure if I follow your advice, I too will be getting girls from Centaurus for a piece of bubble gum and 3 reais for bus fare!! You are a god to us "non game, no clue having " mongers!! I can only hope to one day be as cool and awesome a monger as you are!! Valeu!!