Rio de Janeiro Reports

[Torgoch]

Nice report!! It's all in the details.

glad you liked it.. just trying to put something back into the forum having got a lot of help and information off it over the last couple of years

[/QUOTEpPuta Playa]Please check out Termas Black and White if you have time. ...[/QUOTE]

I will try to do so .. I'll probably leave it until my last week here ..

[/QUOTE=Puta Playa]When you go to Florida, look for a loira named Bella. This girl is crazy and you'll know her if you see her. She was barking like a dog when I fucked her doggystyle, doing all kind of crazy things, acting super hyper, rimming me, you name it. Same way the next night. Probably inhales all the money she earns before she even leaves the building, but I loved the results.[/QUOTE]Wow. Sounds like one to enjoy. She gets a mixed rating on gpguia. One report ends with "MUITO, MAS MUITO, MAS MUITO POSITIVO" and the other says "muito negativo", but I'm happy to take a punt on your recommendation. I'll try Florida next week. I won't be doing much this weekend as I have to catch up with my work having spent time on "extracurricular activities". Weekend seems the best time to do it with most places shut.

I'm renting an apartment on Av Prado Jr and, as you mentioned in one of your reports, there is a bar on the other side of the road from me where girls are still hanging out drinking round 0700. Some of them look a bit rough but there was an absolute stunner there this morning. On a whim for some quim (that's slang where come from for vagina), I tried to get over the road to talk to her as she left but with traffic I couldn't get across Prado and NS Copa before she had walked down the road and into Nikos. Damn. Mind you a Nikos girl, good looking and dressed well would probably want muito R$. She also saw me but kept walking so I gess she wasn't interested. They can't be starting that early in Nikos, maybe girls sleep over there between shifts?. Maybe I'll set the alarm a little earlier tomorrow and try to see who is out there after Balcony has closed down and having been unsuccessful is ending the night with a few beers at sun-up?

Although I set out last night to go to MV30/Aquarios (aka Termas 61), I ended up at 4x4. Since 502 were having a Halloween party, I thought maybe 4x4 might as well? Having heard that the parties at 4x4 are very good with lots of girls I thought I'd change my plans. No luck with a party, but I ended up with my Rio favourite. Lavinia, who was celebrating her last day at work before her 29th birthday on Sunday and was in party mood. Tall, big bunda, big boobs, big personality, good GFE, likes to DFK within seconds of meeting you, "loves" her job and makes sure that you enjoy it as much as she does. All I will say is that things got extremely hot and sweaty.

[Member #3439]

I'm here for 4 weeks with work, so I'll try out some of the other Centro termas (maybe MV30, T61, T31, T81, Florida. We'll see), it gives me something to do in the evenings (!) and report back.

Nice report!! It's all in the details.

Please check out Termas Black and White if you have time. I sessioned a B&W regular who was moonlighting at Florida on her day off a few months ago. Top GFE performer and she was insistent that I take her phone number and call. I thought to call or maybe ride to B&W to see if the entire crew is so good, but never got around to it. Pic is below, so you can see it wasn't looking like an Uruguaiana 210 staffer or anything, bleh. The place is off the beaten path for both tourists and safado Centro office workers, so I bet the girls actually have to work for the money there.

http://www.internationalsexguide.inf...hmentid=135938

B&W was rumored to be right in a favela. Everyone talked about it off and on but no one reported on it. Now we have google streetview and can see that's it's not ghetto. It's on my list for the next trip, perhaps you should try. I can see from streetview that onibus 497 stops right in front of it.

http://maps.google.com/maps?client=o...ed=0CBMQnwIwAA

When you go to Florida, look for a loira named Bella. This girl is crazy and you'll know her if you see her. She was barking like a dog when I fucked her doggystyle, doing all kind of crazy things, acting super hyper, rimming me, you name it. Same way the next night. Probably inhales all the money she earns before she even leaves the building, but I loved the results.

Thanks guys for the advice on MDE. I had to book for San Jose today instead because the MDE Avianca flights that I needed were already booked solid, but will be using your info as guide to the MDE thread resources and planning MDE for my next short trip. I've heard of the former Medellin mansion, i gather it's the South American answer to BKK Eden or Pattaya Hell Club. Sao Paulo could benefit from having a place like that. I'm surprised Brasil doesn't have guaranteed service clubs. Even the termas performance is all over the place. Ane at Luomo, last year.. no anal, tried CBJ, WTF...then Pietra at L'uomo, this year, took it up the ass for almost 30 minutes and then swallowed the fruits of her labor. Someone needs to enforce a standard at those price levels. I hear Hell Club has a money back guarantee to motivate the girls.

[Poucolouco]

Can anyone on the board tell me if L'Uomo, Centaurus, and the other termas' are open during Carnival? Thanks.

MCruddy

All open except Sunday. Luomo is open on Sunday.

[Poucolouco]

Staying in Ipanema and wondering where to get local GPD. I know all the spots in Copacabana (Balcony Bar, Pussycat, Franks, etc), but don't know of anything local in Ipanema. I know Centaurus is on the boarder with Ipanema, but looking for something last minute late in the night. Something like a Meia Petaca or any place to mix, mingle, and make a selection. Also, any SW's in Ipanema? Thanks.

MCruddy

Try Shenanigan's in Ipanema.
http://www.shenanigans.com.br

[MCruddy]

Staying in Ipanema and wondering where to get local GPD. I know all the spots in Copacabana (Balcony Bar, Pussycat, Franks, etc), but don't know of anything local in Ipanema. I know Centaurus is on the boarder with Ipanema, but looking for something last minute late in the night. Something like a Meia Petaca or any place to mix, mingle, and make a selection. Also, any SW's in Ipanema? Thanks.

MCruddy

[MCruddy]

Can anyone on the board tell me if L'Uomo, Centaurus, and the other termas' are open during Carnival? Thanks.

MCruddy

[Golfinho]

As someone who travels to Rio multiple times per year I strongly object to your characterization of the oil rig guys who are there every 28 days as "oil patch trash." My experience has been that they are clean, quiet, respectful and usually sleep most of the flight. Also, I have learned a lot more from them than from your typical ignorant American traveler.

As someone who travels to Brazil multiple times per year, who cares. A Brazilian physician (female) in the next seat became engaged in conversation with one of these folk. Polite woman got treated to the full discourse of life upon the rig. While Brazilian children gaped in astonishment at the site of authentic American proletariat. Thanks to the anonymous Texan who shared with me the terminology. Hell, I'd nevah even been to the Lone Star State, much less seen the oil patch. Enjoy the learning.

[Hughdad]

Wow, so many assumptions on this board. Sorry, but I don't get excited by dirty tramps that see more than five guys a day. IMHO, it is nasty and dangerous! I left my wife because we never connected the way I desire. Been with my ex for 16 years...at a very early age. A relationship is the LAST thing on my mind. I am enjoying life and doing everything I always wanted to do.

BTW, I just left Vegas two months ago. I shagged a wealthy woman from the NW and the sex was lame! The first night I met six different women and every single time the cock clocked, so I chose someone a little bit more mature. It was great conversation, but lacked passion. I don't go to Vegas to buy pussy.

My problem these days is that my interest doesn't last after the third encounter with any woman. I have always fantasized about sex with a hot Brazilian woman. Any slum can go there and throw money around. I'd rather challenge myself and have her ass wide open both figuratively and literally. I don't care how fine she is...I'm not thinking about making a love connection.

Damn, let me do things my way! It is not about money either. I am not cheap. I spend freely on women if she properly fuels my ego. I will properly spend more over the course of a day on a non pro than than guys drop at Centarus. I feel I got plenty of years left before it is all about money. Im willing to put forth the effort to find a gem.

In closing, I looked in the photo gallery. I was rarely impressed! I'm not coming all the way to Brazil for some average, out of shape, used up piece of ass. I wonder about some if the guys grading scale. I can't wait to post my trip and pics. I will succeed!

Go get 'em Sport. But just so you know, you are writing in a forum that is about paying for sex. There is a non-pro forum here too. But, I'm rooting for you. There are guys here that are successful in getting free sex and developing ongoing relationships. Portuguese is required.

[Hughdad]

Arrived in Rio yesterday and heard from gringo management that whereas prior to the demise of Help, when 85% of their clientele was black usa, now their units are being rented primarily to 'families' and europeans. The present economy appears to be pricing out the bottom of the market. On the Continental flight over, the majority of passengers were Brazilian nationals (and would have been higher % if not for the 'oil patch trash'). Haven't seen this since the eary '90s. Looking forward to this one for the first time in a while.

When flying back and forth from Houston I shared many flights with oil rig workers. Hard working guys, but they really look down on Brazilians. Very red neck attitudes and they don't hide their prejudices.

[Hughdad]

I know you are probably trying to be positive, but really, most US woman suck. Most are materialistic,(especially in relative terms to foreign ladies) selfish, much harder to please, far more demanding, and unfeminine thanks to the feminism that has ruined woman in this country. Go to vegas and all you get are STUCK UP bitches who think they are too good for most guys and just are nothing more than cock teases. NO thanks. Its not impossible to hook up in vegas, but its highly unlikely. Woman are mostly there to feed their egos. My buddies and I have met woman in vegas, but have yet to score on a trip to vegas. We are good looking guys too. Some guys score, most guys dont. Go to most foreign countries and MOST guys score. Nuff said.

Most guys score in foreign countries by paying for it. My firend lives in Henderson suburb of Vegas. We went out to bars where the locals go and he was scoring just fine. He is average looking but is a funny dude with lots of confidence. Most US women don't suck. Many come off sounding like they hate men, because most US men are dickweeds. But spend a short breaking through that with humor, confidence and manners and you are on your way. With your attitude, I can see why you would never be able to score with readily available US ladies. "Nuff said."

[Bubba Boy]

Here's a link for the 'Medellin List":
http://www.internationalsexguide.inf...&postcount=509

The list is pretty current.
For the casas on the list, pay attention to the casas listed under Villa Nueva 1 and 2.
One of the Villa Nueva lists is for one side of the main street, Oriental and the other Villa Nueva list is for the other side of the street.

All within walking distance of eachother in el Central.
There are always guys out on that main street and around, handing out cards for new or established casas.

Prices are inexpensive at about $20-30 US for an hour, quality depends on your luck, it varies.

IMHO, Medellin is much better than San Jose, CR, and less expensive.
For a first timer, consider staying at the Medellin Mansion or now called the Casa Blanca 1 or the lower key affililiated Casa Blanca 2.
Invaluable information available there from the staff and fellow guys staying there, especially for a new guy there.

I know Medellin and all of Colombia very well, and I dig it, however, since discovering Brasil about 4-5 years ago, I prefer Brasil, though Colombia is generally cheaper and closer to the US.

Have fun!!

I have been to Medellin a number of times, pretty much agree with all of the above. One more thing, it is quite safe now. The rep it had, in that it was dangerous, was justified 15 years ago when Pablo Escobar literally owned Medellin. Now totally different. Probably safer than Rio and a hell of a lot cleaner and efficient.

[Ricker]

... On another note. Lots of you guys are knowledgeable about MDE. Can someone PM me and point me to the equivalent of Sperto's list for MDE casas? I see a list and a series of photo maps, but the info looks possibly out of date. My schedule opened up for some hobbying, so I am about to book a trip to San Jose CR for the week after next ...

Here's a link for the 'Medellin List":
http://www.internationalsexguide.inf...&postcount=509

The list is pretty current.
For the casas on the list, pay attention to the casas listed under Villa Nueva 1 and 2.
One of the Villa Nueva lists is for one side of the main street, Oriental and the other Villa Nueva list is for the other side of the street.

All within walking distance of eachother in el Central.
There are always guys out on that main street and around, handing out cards for new or established casas.

Prices are inexpensive at about $20-30 US for an hour, quality depends on your luck, it varies.

IMHO, Medellin is much better than San Jose, CR, and less expensive.
For a first timer, consider staying at the Medellin Mansion or now called the Casa Blanca 1 or the lower key affililiated Casa Blanca 2.
Invaluable information available there from the staff and fellow guys staying there, especially for a new guy there.

I know Medellin and all of Colombia very well, and I dig it, however, since discovering Brasil about 4-5 years ago, I prefer Brasil, though Colombia is generally cheaper and closer to the US.

Have fun!!

[Torgoch]

I, m in Rio for 4 weeks. Mainly work but with a few free days and free evenings. Time to do a bit of exploring off the usual monger trail.

With the rising costs in Rio there has been some interest on the forum in visiting the other centro termas apart from the "premier division" ones (eg 4x4, Cancun, T65). Last night I paid a visit to Termas 502 and here are my observations to help others who may be interested in going. I hope that this helps prepare 502-newbies for a visit so at least you know what to expect when you go in.

I had been to 502 before, a couple of times several years ago, when I had the pleasure/privilege of spending a couple of hours with Darlene, who sadly appears to have retired from the termas now. It appears that 502 used to be bunda heaven with Darlene, Soraya, Sumara and Aninha (and maybe Aaliyah?) all having worked there at some point in the early to mid "naughties". This time at 502 I didn't indulge but I stayed for about an hour and half to soak up the atmosphere and scope out the talent – I always try to last at least an hour in a termas even if I don't end up sessioning (although sometimes it is just not possible!), just in case my dream girl had just been snapped up for an hour just before I walked in. It also gives you time to size up the vibe, talk to a few girls and watch how they interact with others to scope out possibilities. Last night and tonight is Halloween with some girls dressed up in skeleton-type bikinis (with bones up the front that glowed in the dark) and wearing pointy witches hats. Some girls just had skimpy bikinis (well what little bits of material covering their "bits") which glowed in the dark.

1) Location

502 is on Rua Alfandega, just off Rio Branco. I found the easiest way to get to it is from the Urugaiana Metro station: take the Presidente Vargas exit from the subway, once on the main road Vargas (which straight ahead of you on exit) turn right and walk down Vargas until you reach Rio Branco, turn right again and R. Alfandega is about 25 yards on the right. 502 is the first building on the left in R. Alfandega. It will take you a couple of minutes to get there. You can also get to 502 by walking straight out of Urugaiana and heading to Av. Rio Branco and then turning left but this means walking down a less well-lit and less-busy street after dark. Also, if you don't like the idea of being around Urugaiana after dark you can get off the metro at Carioca, turn left on exit and walk down the main street until you reach Alfandega, this will probably take you 10 minutes as you have to cross a couple of main roads. I arrived at 8 and left at 9. 30 and there were plenty of people still around the streets on the way home from work. I've not walked around this area later than 10-11 pm but others have provided advice in the forum about being around Centro late at night.

2) Getting in and getting started

You have to walk up quite a step set of stairs to get to the entrance desk, the guy at the bottom of the stairs will stare at you to size you up as you walk in, the guy at the top of the stairs will give you a cost-card which is filled in with your drinks and any sessions you have. You don't need to check in at the front desk, but you pay here on the way out. You don't change into a robe here, you walk in the bar straight off the street. Entrance is R$20 which includes three free beers. I've not had more than 3 drinks here so I don't know how much the drinks actually cost. I didn't check the costs of the sessions but I believe it is R$140 for an hour. You can also session for 20 or 40 minutes. You give the barman your card t be marked for drinks and any sessions will also be marked on the card. You pay on the way out.

3) The termas itself

Basically it is one long room with seats and tables down the sides and a bar at the opposite end to the way in. The music (Brazilian, MPB, some hip-hop) was very loud which makes conversation difficult and if you are tall like me, the flashing lights seem to be almost at eye level which can be quite blinding. Nobody was smoking in the bar. There are a couple of small stages with poles and whilst I was there girls got up and gave dances lasting 5-10 minutes (depending on the interest that they get) moving from clothed (I. E. A skimpy bikini) to naked. The dances appeared to be on the hour. They did seem to allow some touching and interaction as they danced, I didn't do any of this but it seemed like touching some areas was ok (butt, legs, arms, back) but others were not (pussy), the girls would indicate to the guys whether they had crossed some line or rule about touching. One girl did stop dancing and walk off after a guy leaned in and shouted something up her ass (what's that about? I saw that happen a couple of times, a guy leans in and yells something up their ass?). I watched a few girls dance and it seems like you have to initiate any interaction. You can sit down on the seats on the side to scope out the scene but a lot of guys stand up on the floor which means that you can get blocked in from seeing/talking to the girls as they walk by. This time I didn't session but I seem to remember from two years ago that the rooms were adequate but not palatial, the room that I had contained a sex chair as well as a bed which made for some interesting positions! You walk back to the entrance and then through another door to reach the cabines. I may go back there tomorrow night and if I session I can describe the cabine. The room was not packed but pretty busy. I would estimate something like 20 girls and 50-60 guys in the bar. Definitely many more guys than girls. The guys all looked like locals to me and were a range of ages, some dressed like they had just come off the beach (T shirt, shorts) and others lie they had just come from work (suits). The atmosphere was pretty neutral/friendly, I didn't get any "what is the gringo doing here" stares.

4) The girls (the really important bit)

Finally, I hear you say, he's finally got onto the critical bit. As I said, 502 in the past appears to have had a reputation for big bundas (based on forum comments), which as a bunda-boy was appealing to me. There were some present last night but most girls were on the skinny side, nevertheless they still manage to extract every jiggle and wobble out of their arses when they shake them! I spoke to 5 girls whilst I was there – my Porto is not great but I can hold a basic conversation and ask the important questions. It is difficult to talk below a shout in the room due to the noise level, so I couldn't pick up any names.

In my opinion most of the girls are not at the top end of the scale which you are more likely to find in the top termas but there were a couple of very pretty girls. At the other end of the scale there was one that looked like a bloke in drag to me, but she (I'm assuming she was a she, I didn't talk to her) worked the room hard and seemed to be getting some attention, bless her. There are a range of ethnicities and body shapes there but most girls there last night were of African or mixed (Mulatta)heritage but there were also some latina-looking and branca there as well (I hope that sentence doesn't offend, I'm basically trying to say that the mix was mainly black with some other ethnicities as well). Quite a few of the girls are on the slim-side but with lovely asses. Most of the girls looked natural to me, though there was one girl (who looked familiar – maybe done porno) with a couple of silicon hemispherical bolt-ons. There were a few 'curvy' types for those of you like a bit more meat and several big bundas on show. I prefer a girl whose thighs are as wide as her shoulders and whose arse finally arrives a couple of seconds after she does, so I tended to focus my attention on them. There were a couple of those present. I spoke to two extremely pretty and slim girls, another one who was curvy and cute but had a piercing on her face which looked like a big zit and was a little offputting and two with bunda grande. One of these popozuda beauties was a girl who looked a bit like Joyce Oliveira with a big butt (I couldn't catch her name but she was pretty flat chested so I am pretty sure that it wasn't her) and there was another latina loira who had a bunda that approached Darlene-levels although not quite as big – wide in the thigh and a perky gravity-defying popozuda (she is 21 so it hasn't started to get too flabby or head south yet). She was the only girl that I would have sessioned with but she turned out to have a bad attitude. When I sat down to talk to her, she was sitting in a sulk and not really wanting to talk at all. What I managed to get out of her was that her name sounded like Polly/Pony/Tony? (I asked her 3 times but couldn't hear with the noise and she looked pissed off as I kept asking her to repeat). She was a bit drunk and was sulking as she had been there for 2 hours and had not sessioned yet. Talking to her was difficult and she just wanted to sulk rather than talk and in the end she just got up and walked off! A shame as she could have been the girl I sessioned with if she had been a bit happier and interactive. I may drop by tonight, if nothing works out at another termas and try talking to her again.

As I said, to my eyes the quality of the girls covered a range from very pretty to less so and to be honest, I've seen a similar range of beauty in top end Centro termas (4x4, Cancun). Perhaps there are more mid-range and less top-end compared to 4x4 or L'uomo but it was as good a range as I saw on my last visit to Cancun.

5) So what are the differences between 502 and the top-end Termas?

The first and obvious big difference between 502 and somewhere like 4x4 or L'uomo is in how the girls interact with you. They tended to work their way round the room, stopping to talk to guys who reached out to them to give them a hug or a kiss or grab their butt, before moving on. Some girls did spend long periods of time talking to the same guy or group of guys but they may have been their regulars? The girls that I spoke to didn't indulge in much small talk. Perhaps it was because of my limited Porto and none of them spoke any English. But they also tended to move on quickly when talking to locals as well. The conversation moved quickly from greetings (Hi, swap names, do you want some company?) to "do you want to fuck? " in a matter of minutes. If the answer was "not right now", "maybe later" or anything other than "yes" then they didn't stick around and would move on. This is in contrast to my last visits to 502 a couple of years ago, when I had several girls sit and talk to me for 15+ minutes although I had visited in the early evening when it was quieter with fewer guys present. It may be that this time with a room full of guys they were trying to maximise their success rate by moving on quickly to the next guy/possibility. It may be a little unfair to say this, but it seemed that a lot guys were there to drink beer and ogle/grope girls and this seems to rub off on the girls' attitudes (mind you ogling was what I ended up doing! Although I did go in with the intention of sessioning).

Secondly, girls don't tend to come up to you and start a conversation, so you have to take the initiative (I had 3 girls come up to me in 1. 5 hours). If you are sitting on the side, they may come up and loiter in front of you, adjusting their clothing to show off their assets whilst preening in the mirror, but few of them try to make eye contact with you unlike at places like 4x4, L'uomo and Cancun. If they walk past you on the floor they may brush past you but they don't linger. You have to make the first move, even making eye contact with them as they walk past won't attract them over as most of the guys are staring at tits and ass as it walks by, so how do they know that you want them to come over? I noticed that most guys reach out and BRIEFLY grab flesh – arm, back, or mainly butt – to get the girl's attention. If you sit and wait for action, you will sit and wait a very long time!

Thirdly, there doesn't seem to be much small talk or kissing/cuddling going on in the bar – if you think it will be like 4x4 or L'uomo where some gata will sit with you for 20+ minutes, let you grope her and will be sticking her tongue down your throat within a couple of minutes, think again. Like I said, it is more business-like. "Hi", "you want to fuck? ", "lets go". It may be that I caught it on a busy night but there didn't seem to be the atmosphere or opportunity for relaxing foreplay to scope out the girl before deciding.

Fourthly, the obvious big difference is the price, a one hour session in 502 will cost you R$160 (20 entrance/3 drinks plus 140 session) compared to R$270 at 4x4 after 5pm when you don't get the entrance waived (50 entrance + 220 session).

In conclusion, I hope that this info is useful for anybody who is thinking about venturing beyond the normal Centro termas visited by us gringos (4x4, Cancun, T65). Bear in mind that beauty is in the eye of the beholder, so the best thing to do is to go there and check it out yourself: entrance is cheap and includes 3 drinks. You may find a gem, or your ideal type, however, if nothing takes your fancy then have a couple of beers before heading off to 4x4, at least you get to eye pussy and bunda whilst drinking!

I'm here for 4 weeks with work, so I'll try out some of the other Centro termas (maybe MV30, T61, T31, T81, Florida. We'll see), it gives me something to do in the evenings (!) and report back.

[Exec Talent]

Arrived in Rio yesterday and heard from gringo management that whereas prior to the demise of Help, when 85% of their clientele was black usa, now their units are being rented primarily to 'families' and europeans. The present economy appears to be pricing out the bottom of the market. On the Continental flight over, the majority of passengers were Brazilian nationals (and would have been higher % if not for the 'oil patch trash'). Haven't seen this since the eary '90s. Looking forward to this one for the first time in a while.

As someone who travels to Rio multiple times per year I strongly object to your characterization of the oil rig guys who are there every 28 days as "oil patch trash." My experience has been that they are clean, quiet, respectful and usually sleep most of the flight. Also, I have learned a lot more from them than from your typical ignorant American traveler.

[Member #3439]

Could be a lot of locals working in centro, but not many tourists.
I prefer visiting the casas around 11 AM, before the lunch rush.

P.S What is MDE?

Thanks, Sperto. It's good to know. I always want to hit the casas early, but those naughty Club Florida girls typically keep me occupied till 3 or 4 in the morning, I write reports and post pics, and then I'm sleeping too late to hit the casas early. It's a vicious cycle.

MDE is Medellin. I was going to go there and see what all the hype is about. I was looking at prices across Lima, Asuncion, BsAs. What I see is highly variable service, covered BJ's (sacrilege) and prices that aren't much lower than Rio Centro. MDE seems to be the only decent alternative in this part of the world. With Latin America mongering going up in price all the time, at some point people in Europe will say screw this and just go camp out at the Partytreffs in Germany instead of going to South America. Unfortunately I live on the other side of the pond and our 'Anti-Sex League' doesn't allow such hedonistic places..