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10-02-18 22:28 #19123
Posts: 2041The subject of Brazilian economics and prostitution are shades of gray. Without trying to be diplomatic, everyone has made good points that don't necessarily conflict. I think Bwana made the point about girls advertising on websites or the UTR girls on social media. Is that optimal for tourists? Obviously, no.
I'm beyond my pick-up days, but I would presume the lousy economy makes more opportunities with non-pros. In the past, I would hit on every store clerk, cashier, waitress and any female that I came across. Most would smile. Some would take the bait. That was what made Brazil a blast. A trip to the mall could very easily wind up with a date that night.
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10-02-18 18:13 #19122
Posts: 62Originally Posted by WyattEarp [View Original Post]
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10-02-18 17:56 #19121
Posts: 2041Originally Posted by Sperto [View Original Post]
I had an older male relative who was part of the occupation force in Japan after WWII. Forgetting the tragedy of the war, his stories of picking up Japanese pros and non-pros sounded incredible. Some guys would have live-in, love-in maids. In a short period, the Japanese economy took off and prostitution subsided greatly.
Now post-WWII Japan is a unique case. I'm sure the ratio of available men to women was extremely problematic for women. I always thought post WWII Germany would have been an amazing time for an American male.
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10-02-18 17:39 #19120
Posts: 6422Originally Posted by Sperto [View Original Post]
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10-02-18 17:17 #19119
Posts: 4053The economy experts in the forum says recession means more prostitution. I doubt that's right in the case of Rio. The privê scene in centro in Rio should give a fairly good view of the current situation in Rio. Many privées have closed down because the lack of clients. The privées live on the locals coming in for a daytime f*ck. As Brazil is in a crisis right now there are less customers who can afford to visit privées. I've spoken with several puteiro gerentes who all told me how business has gone down because of the crisis. Even Vila Mimosa who charges R$60 have much less girls and customers because of the crisis.
F*ck for food? Why don't you go to Mabs with a grilled chicken and see if any GP is eager to make business (considering that many of the Mabs-girls are overweight girls you might be lucky)?
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10-02-18 14:12 #19118
Posts: 5656I have no problem with mongers visiting the poorest countries to get it on with the abundance of providers they say they see there. That would leave more for me in the richer countries which they say have less prostitutes. No one, however, will deny that that the country with the most prostitutes in the world is the good old USA the world's richest country. The problem however is the damned christian right who are f..king up the scene there. In spite of their actions the hookers are out in great numbers all over the country. However, give me Brazil, Canada, Thailand, Germany, Colombia where its cheaper and the working girls provide better service.
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10-02-18 05:51 #19117
Posts: 6422Will fuck for food!
Originally Posted by Gropai [View Original Post]
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10-02-18 04:25 #19116
Posts: 1077Originally Posted by WyattEarp [View Original Post]
https://www.imf.org/external/datamap...ADVEC/WEOWORLD
Then again, it will mean little to someone who doesn't understand what a recession is in the first place.
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10-02-18 03:37 #19115
Posts: 2041Originally Posted by Turgid [View Original Post]
I know some of those countries on the list have a local scene. You can hire a guide and he would take you through the local scene step-by-step. Your money will go very far. In fact, I know some adventurous guys who had a blast in Mozambique (women, beaches, food). Since I appreciate women of all races and ethnicities, I don't have any dietary restrictions.
I second what Gropai says. A little bit of charm can easily get you some non-pros. You can probably get an all-nighter for $30-$50 in those countries.
If you are predisposed to not find African women attractive that's your prerogative. In the cities, you will find attractive, young black women in the right clubs. We are not talking about villagers who have nursed three kids by age twenty.
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10-02-18 02:40 #19114
Posts: 504Originally Posted by Turgid [View Original Post]
I hope I'm not offending anyone but places like the Congo, Sierra Leone, Rawanda, just to name a few off your list. Most of the population of girls are not attractive or just borderline ugly. If you want to bang ugly chicks you don't really need to leave the country. You can't really compare to a place like Brazil, Columbia, DR where your going to find very beautiful attractive females. Model material. I'm sure there are model chicks in the Congo but it's very few. Most of them are ugly and most guys would not pay any real money to bang a chick in the Congo. Which is why there is no real mongering scene.
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10-02-18 00:51 #19113
Posts: 62Originally Posted by Turgid [View Original Post]
You should check out those places yourself before you say that. I don't know about others, but prostitution is rampant in Uganda. Almost any major club and bar have women roaming around looking for opportunities to make some money, pros, semi-pros, non-pros alike. You don't need foreign mongers to frequent this country to boost prostitution, most customers are local Africans. Men need to have sex, foreigner or not, so there's always business in the prostitution industry. In the poorest countries, women would even have sex in exchange for food instead of money. In fact, low income does make P4P easier, because the poorer a country is, the more likely you can get semi-pros or even non-pros to have sex: in Kampala, 50 percent of time you can approach a random non pro in the street and offer to have a date with her and buy her some nice things she usually can't afford, like a good meal, which is not expensive for a foreigner, and then get laid.
Bad economy does promote prostitution, because that's the fastest way, if not the only way, a hot girl can earn way more money than if she does other jobs. What brings down prostitution is something non-economical, such as government legislation, social morality, feminist awareness, etc. A good example is Cuba, which legally bans prostitution. Believe me, if prostitution was legal in Cuba, women would be crazy to sell their bodies for money. Another good example is North Korea. North Korean women are generally pretty, well, by Asian standards at least. Most of them don't need the surgery like South Korean women do to have a pretty face, but few of them think about doing prostitution to make money, even though the country's economy is bad as hell, because prostitution is highly stigmatized in the country, paid sex is regarded as a disgusting sin.
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10-02-18 00:01 #19112
Posts: 951Originally Posted by WyattEarp [View Original Post]
The establishments can pay the subornos to the authorities and they frequent the places as well for free-.
I know this for a fact as I met several detectives who work for SP police stationed in Rio and they all said same thing.
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10-01-18 21:31 #19111
Posts: 5656Originally Posted by WyattEarp [View Original Post]
28. Sudan -- GDP per capita: $992.
27. Benin -- $966.
26. Chad -- $919.
25. Nepal -- $918.
24. Mali -- $917.
23. Guinea-Bissau -- $910.
22. Ethiopia -- $909.
21. Comoros -- $869.
20. Tajikistan -- $848.
19. Haiti -- $847.
18. Rwanda -- $819.
17. Guinea -- $816.
16. Burkina Faso -- $750.
15. Liberia -- $722.
14. Uganda -- $711.
13. Togo -- $698.
12. Afghanistan -- $601.
11. Niger -- $510.
10. Sierra Leone -- $505.
9. The Gambia -- $500.
8. Madagascar -- $479.
7. Democratic Republic of Congo -- $477.
6. Mozambique -- $472.
5. Yemen -- $449.
4. Central African Republic -- $425.
3. Malawi -- $342.
2. Burundi -- $339.
1. South Sudan -- $246.
The above mentioned countries have the least incidence of prostitution in the world unless mongers have frequented these countries and have had better experiences than richer countries such as in Europe, Brazil, Colombia, Thailand, Costa Rica, Panama, Dubai, etc.
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10-01-18 18:34 #19110
Posts: 2041Originally Posted by Turgid [View Original Post]
And yes, I think the poorest countries generally have the highest incidences of p4p. When communist countries first started opening up in the 90s, they were great mongering destinations until some countries drove it underground. Also, the prices started to climb for the hottest girls in these former communist bloc countries as global mongers increased demand. I would tell you Venezuela should be where the action is heating up, but I think the hottest girls have bailed out for Spain and other countries. That's the flip side of globalization the hot girls can just as easy go to the affluent mongers in Europe and elsewhere.
I think BwanaD presents an interesting picture of today's mongering.
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10-01-18 08:17 #19109
Posts: 4053Originally Posted by BwanaD [View Original Post]
Regarding the amount of prostitution I find a big downturn, specially in the Capitals in Nordeste e.g Fortaleza, Recife, São Luís, Macapá etc. On the bright side even the most tiny cities in Brazil have puteiros. I've visted 79 cities in Brazil and I can't recall any city that didn't have any puteiro of some kind.
In the case of Copacabana the mongering is limited to Mabs, Dolce Vita, strip clubs, privées, termas, streetwalkers and girls frequenting the beach and quiosques. Vila Mimosa will be untouched unless they decide to construct the trem-bala train between Rio and São Paulo. Regarding the privées in centro. There are a few buildings that have got rid of all their privées, but there are still hundreds of privées left in centro. However the number of privées in centro have decreased the last years. Mainly because Brazil is suffering an economic crise. Less locals have money to spend on bunda so some privées have to close down.
As you wrote internet also have changed the mongering scene. The GPs use social media, escort sites etc to sell their bundas. The disadvantages are less security and in some cases less customers, but the advantages are several. No puteiro boss will take 40% of what the girls earn and they don't have to pay fines if they doesn't show up at work.