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  1. #18609
    Quote Originally Posted by Rio Bob  [View Original Post]
    Yes it's a small world, we've all slept in the same beds one time or another and with the same GDP's!
    Actually we havn't slept in the same bed. I never stayed in that apto, I just know the owner and visted the apto many times.
    I have stayed in another apto in the same building many times.

  2. #18608
    Quote Originally Posted by Sperto  [View Original Post]
    If that's the apto, yes several times. One of the few aptos in that building with a balcony. Nice kitchen btw.
    Rio is a small world.

    Edit: Judging by your photo I doubt it's the apto that I first thought.
    Yes it's a small world, we've all slept in the same beds one time or another and with the same GDP's!
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  3. #18607
    Quote Originally Posted by Rio Bob  [View Original Post]
    You've been there?
    If that's the apto, yes several times. One of the few aptos in that building with a balcony. Nice kitchen btw.
    Rio is a small world.

    Edit: Judging by your photo I doubt it's the apto that I first thought.

  4. #18606
    Quote Originally Posted by Sperto  [View Original Post]
    Nice video of Pestana roof top bar.
    I can recommend RioBobs other videos.
    Specially this one:
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IakQaj5CNwo&t=229s

    I'm curious, this video is it filmed from Rua Baro de Ipanema 22 (apto 1102, a quite small but high standard apto with a balcony)?
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NkBTNpINWfg
    You've been there?
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  5. #18605
    Nice video of Pestana roof top bar.
    I can recommend RioBobs other videos.
    Specially this one:
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IakQaj5CNwo&t=229s

    I'm curious, this video is it filmed from Rua Barão de Ipanema 22 (apto 1102, a quite small but high standard apto with a balcony)?
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NkBTNpINWfg

  6. #18604

    My take on crime in Rio and Favelas.

    Quote Originally Posted by ExecTalent  [View Original Post]
    Trust Rio Bob. He was the tour guide for Cabral's captain, Gaspar de Lemos, when he first landed in Rio.

    I used to visit with flight attendants staying at the Sheraton and was a victim of the police shakedown Rio Bob mentions. They stopped my taxi, asked me to get out and put their hands in my pockets. My biggest concern was them planting drugs. However, when they discovered little money on me, I was free to go. This happened at night and coming to the hotel. Not an experience I recommend. Good thing I was wearing dark pants.

    Having spent some time at a friend's house in Recreio dos Bandeirantes, near Water Planet, I cannot recommend the area for mongering. It is a great place if you want to relax and enjoy a middle class community, but not much else. Barra has some great restaurants and I used to travel there from Copa by van, but again, not where you want to be..
    I walked the entire stretch of Copacabana beach and Ipanema practically every day for exercise for the last 3 months. Only saw one street offence. Be careful in the day of people walking too close behind you on Atlantica Avenue. A street rat tried to steal the purse from a guy and two Brazilian women. A lot of screaming and shouting and fists flying and the thief legged it. That was broad daylight. Learn 20 good phrases or words in Portuguese and that helps. We really do look vulnerable and out of place so quickly study what the locals do and copy it all. Re taxis, the guys hanging outside Dolce Vita will always overcharge you. Download the uber app and use it. Its at least 50% cheaper than the yellow cabs and there's no hassle. I used it 50 times without any problems.

    Favelas and Funke parties. If you go to these then I think you are risking your life. I was with a favela girl for a month and went to the beach with her brother etc. I got to know a lot of what happens there. It isn't pretty and the locals are totally controlled by the three main gangs who run these favelas. If you go into a Favela and it all goes wrong the Police won't be coming in to help. You are completely at the will of the gangs. These parties are drug fuelled, all the security (young lads) are all carrying weapons. Three weeks ago the Military Police raided a funke party in Rocinha Favella in Rio after a military Policeman was killed two weeks before. They shot the two doormen dead by sniper fire at the door, entered the party and killed 9 more. Reports say 6 were shot in the back of the head (execution style), another 12 wounded. The reports vary between news agencies. It was only on the news for 1 1/2 days! If you inadvertently get caught up in the middle of that then you are screwed big time. Just do not risk it, its their world and we aren't welcome, we don't know the warning signs and even if you were fluent in Portuguese the noise of the music and the drug trance state that many are in means no-one will be able to help you. We might think its way out and a bit risque to go to such a party but its not worth the risk. Most Brazilians wouldn't even consider going to such a party.

    According to google reports, 3100 military police have been killed in the last 10 years in Brazil. Most in Rio and Sao Paulo. That's nearly one a day. Apparently three are injured each day, and about 10 a day have shots fired at them but the bullet misses. Nearly all this intense action is in or close to a favela. In the last three months I heard a lot of gunfire during the hours of darkness near the favela by General Osario subway near Ipanema. I also heard a ton of rifle fire near Rocinha. Two weeks ago in broad daylight the police challenged a suspect on a bus. The CCTV shows the suspect firing at police through the window. The police completely opened fire on the bus. Windows were exploding and I believe either one or two passengers were killed, the suspect and a load wounded. That was about 3 pm in the afternoon! Don't for one minute think this is a safe venue. Like others have said, keep a clear head and blend in. But no matter how careful you are it is possible to be caught up in the middle of something bad in Rio at the moment. Its sad because 99.9% of the people are genuine nice people and deserve better than this.

  7. #18603

    A peak into the roof top at night Pestana Hotel

    Quote Originally Posted by RioBob  [View Original Post]
    Like everybody has said the Rio Sheraton is a fine hotel and perfectly safe, only problem is you will have to take a taxi everywhere you go. One thing I've noticed about it's location is that sometimes at night the military police have traffic stops there because of it's proximity to the favelas, they will stop your taxi and look inside if there are 3 men you could be subject to a search or even if all 3 of you have girls going back to the hotel. This is not fun as they are toting machine guns and they are looking for drugs, I don't trust them. I have experienced this on several occasions and always been clean but I still don't trust them.

    I would recommend you stay in Copacabana at the Pestana hotel and walk to Monte Carlo or even Centaurus plus take the metro to Centro for 4 x4 or uber it to Solarium. I would not waste my time on those places in Barra or Recreiero as there have been reports here in years past that quality is very low.

    I think you would be safer in Copa as you would be closer to everything you want to do. Even at night just go to Mabs or Dolce Vita and bring girls back to your hotel no problem. I noticed that in the Pestana during the day you usually have to register the girl but at night the people behind the desk don't want to be bothered and keep their heads down just as long as you're discreet. The hotel has a nice pool on the roof top to hang during the day and at night has a bar and DJ and sometimes you will find girls there, just bring them to your room. Have Fun!
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2ojH...ature=youtu.be

  8. #18602

    The Voice of Reason.

    Quote Originally Posted by RioBob  [View Original Post]
    Like everybody has said the Rio Sheraton is a fine hotel and perfectly safe, only problem is you will have to take a taxi everywhere you go. One thing I've noticed about it's location is that sometimes at night the military police have traffic stops there because of it's proximity to the favelas, they will stop your taxi and look inside if there are 3 men you could be subject to a search or even if all 3 of you have girls going back to the hotel. This is not fun as they are toting machine guns and they are looking for drugs, I don't trust them. I have experienced this on several occasions and always been clean but I still don't trust them.

    I would recommend you stay in Copacabana at the Pestana hotel and walk to Monte Carlo or even Centaurus plus take the metro to Centro for 4 x4 or uber it to Solarium. I would not waste my time on those places in Barra or Recreiero as there have been reports here in years past that quality is very low.
    Trust Rio Bob. He was the tour guide for Cabral's captain, Gaspar de Lemos, when he first landed in Rio.

    I used to visit with flight attendants staying at the Sheraton and was a victim of the police shakedown Rio Bob mentions. They stopped my taxi, asked me to get out and put their hands in my pockets. My biggest concern was them planting drugs. However, when they discovered little money on me, I was free to go. This happened at night and coming to the hotel. Not an experience I recommend. Good thing I was wearing dark pants.

    Having spent some time at a friend's house in Recreio dos Bandeirantes, near Water Planet, I cannot recommend the area for mongering. It is a great place if you want to relax and enjoy a middle class community, but not much else. Barra has some great restaurants and I used to travel there from Copa by van, but again, not where you want to be.

    Unlike Sperto, I have been the victim of some attempted muggings. What saved me was being alert and a full water bottle which I held by the neck and used like a club. Don't drink too much. Stay with your group and if you sense danger (usually a small group of teens) then move quickly to the other side of the street.

    Another suggestion is when possible, hail a moving taxi rather than a stationary one. The moving one generally are driven by hard-working honest guys and the stationary ones by lazy guys looking to gouge gringos.

    And, please don't be just a taker. Let's hear about you and your friends' experiences.

  9. #18601
    Quote Originally Posted by MRusa007  [View Original Post]
    Plan is getting finalized. 6 days / nights.

    Sheraton. Decided to stay away from Copa due to all the gossip of military problems / safety issues.

    Land there on Friday. I have been to MC and Solarium. So very much know how they operate.

    Haven't been to Cafe Paris and Perola Negra in Barra.

    How does these 4 compare against each other. Which one should I go first.

    Cafe Paris and Perola Negra. How many girls are there on an average.

    We like the GDPs to be 8, 9, 10's. If possible.

    What is the entrance, 1 hour, and room fee in these places.

    Again, Solarium and MC, I have all the details.
    I already answered you about the questions on Paris Cafe and Perola Negra and told you it is better to stay in Copacabana if your only purpose is to monger in Rio de Janeiro.

    Vidigal is low risk, that favela is pacific and many gringos live there. I also told you favelas in zona sul are low risk because they are pacific.

    Robberies happen more on the beaches and not in the favelas. Why steal poor people when there are many wealthy people down the street that are on the beach.

    You won't have trouble bringing girls to your hotel, all depends on the receptionist you meet. Some are bastards or bitches and some are nice and cool and all depends on your way of acting.

    They can book or call a taxi for you.

    I also told you: The quality is good in those 2 places because wealthy and upper class Brazilians go there. Just avoid to go there Mondays because it is dead. Thursdays night are the best days.

    The entry and programa price I already told you, please check your previous threads.

    Enjoy Brazil.

  10. #18600
    Quote Originally Posted by MRusa007  [View Original Post]
    Thank you Balboa. I am not an expert, but 3 times Rio traveller. I am going with 2 newbies who are scared as hell. So I want to ensure my good friends have a good time and I don't put them into any trouble.

    Any specific respones on my questions on paris cafe / perola negra etc.

    Haven't been to Cafe Paris and Perola Negra in Barra.

    How does these 4 compare against each other. Which one should I go first.

    Cafe Paris and Perola Negra. How many girls are there on an average.

    We like the GDPs to be 8, 9, 10's. If possible.

    What is the entrance, 1 hour, and room fee in these places.
    Like everybody has said the Rio Sheraton is a fine hotel and perfectly safe, only problem is you will have to take a taxi everywhere you go. One thing I've noticed about it's location is that sometimes at night the military police have traffic stops there because of it's proximity to the favelas, they will stop your taxi and look inside if there are 3 men you could be subject to a search or even if all 3 of you have girls going back to the hotel. This is not fun as they are toting machine guns and they are looking for drugs, I don't trust them. I have experienced this on several occasions and always been clean but I still don't trust them.

    I would recommend you stay in Copacabana at the Pestana hotel and walk to Monte Carlo or even Centaurus plus take the metro to Centro for 4 x4 or uber it to Solarium. I would not waste my time on those places in Barra or Recreiero as there have been reports here in years past that quality is very low.

    I think you would be safer in Copa as you would be closer to everything you want to do. Even at night just go to Mabs or Dolce Vita and bring girls back to your hotel no problem. I noticed that in the Pestana during the day you usually have to register the girl but at night the people behind the desk don't want to be bothered and keep their heads down just as long as you're discreet. The hotel has a nice pool on the roof top to hang during the day and at night has a bar and DJ and sometimes you will find girls there, just bring them to your room. Have Fun!
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  11. #18599
    Quote Originally Posted by Sperto  [View Original Post]
    No matter where you go in Rio, violence, shootings and robberies can occur. Since I went to Rio the first time 1991 I've never been robbed. No need to worry as long as you use common sense. Just enjoy yourself. Going around being scared is a big mistake. The bandits and thiefs can smell your fear just like dogs and you'll more likely be a victim.
    True!

    You can get robbed in any big mongering city from Medellin to Santo Domingo and Fortaleza to Salvador Sao Paolo to Rio. Fear is a bad aftershave so don't apply it. I've only ever had 2 skirmishes in 26 visits to Rio-more fights than robberies but I've fought more growin up in US and Europe so. Act like you know where you going-fake it till you make it. And don't bring a towel to the beach. Its got "rob me I'm a gringo" printed on it. Do as the locals do. Rio has caused me no problems and as Komo and others know I go to the gutter lookin for diamonds, I'm in the favelas at Baile funkes and everywhere in between. Just be good peoples and respectful not scared and if you try and learn portugues it will only improve everything tenfold.

  12. #18598
    Quote Originally Posted by MRusa007  [View Original Post]
    I am going with 2 newbies who are scared as hell. So I want to ensure my good friends have a good time and I don't put them into any trouble.
    No matter where you go in Rio, violence, shootings and robberies can occur. Since I went to Rio the first time 1991 I've never been robbed. No need to worry as long as you use common sense. Just enjoy yourself. Going around being scared is a big mistake. The bandits and thiefs can smell your fear just like dogs and you'll more likely be a victim.

  13. #18597
    Quote Originally Posted by MRusa007  [View Original Post]
    Thank you Balboa. I am not an expert, but 3 times Rio traveller. I am going with 2 newbies who are scared as hell. So I want to ensure my good friends have a good time and I don't put them into any trouble.

    Any specific respones on my questions on paris cafe / perola negra etc.

    Haven't been to Cafe Paris and Perola Negra in Barra.

    How does these 4 compare against each other. Which one should I go first.

    Cafe Paris and Perola Negra. How many girls are there on an average.

    We like the GDPs to be 8, 9, 10's. If possible.

    What is the entrance, 1 hour, and room fee in these places.
    Like I said, the Sheraton is great, your buddies will love it.

    They'll make you register guests, at no charge though.

    That said, during the daytime you can usually walk right to the elevator with your girl, they won't notice.

    At night they (security) keeps a more vigilant eye.

    I've never been to the 2 places you were asking about in Barra.

    Enjoy!

  14. #18596
    Quote Originally Posted by Balboa  [View Original Post]
    The Sheraton is fine!

    It's a nice hotel, great view, great facilities.

    I've stayed there many times.

    Never a problem.

    I walk to Vidigal during the day for food, farmacia, etc.

    Anywhere you go there's always some sort of risk.

    The Sheraton is low risk.
    Thank you Balboa. I am not an expert, but 3 times Rio traveller. I am going with 2 newbies who are scared as hell. So I want to ensure my good friends have a good time and I don't put them into any trouble.

    Any specific respones on my questions on paris cafe / perola negra etc.

    Haven't been to Cafe Paris and Perola Negra in Barra.

    How does these 4 compare against each other. Which one should I go first.

    Cafe Paris and Perola Negra. How many girls are there on an average.

    We like the GDPs to be 8, 9, 10's. If possible.

    What is the entrance, 1 hour, and room fee in these places.

  15. #18595
    Quote Originally Posted by DJFourMoney  [View Original Post]
    The best looking BW I have ever seen are in Brazil and it's not even up for debate. It's funny how Black women in America adopt Meghan Markle (who is biracial) but most look like Serena Williams or Issa Rae.

    I'm not into BW either for a whole host of reasons and then Pro Blacks, White Knight Canadians and Europeans don't seem to like when I say that as the former thinks I'm a traitor and the latter believes it's un-pc.

    All those men are welcome to rescue those THOTS if they must.
    Enjoy having sex with the girls you want, and forget what people tell you what to love. You just have one life and just do what you like. Men and Women are free to choose what they want to do with their money and body and who they want to have sex with.

    Many men like to play the false Samaritan.

    You are not a traitor because you like some kinds of women.

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