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  1. #7557
    Where can I find Sperto's latest guide?

  2. #7556

    Price heckling

    Gentlemen,

    It is a time-honored tradition in this part of the forum to chew out a guy if he overpaid. But really, it adds nothing to the forum to make some snide or sarcastic remarks, or to question somebody else intelligence or manhood or whatever, pointing out that he was had. Yes, there is a bit of a function in the price discussion in that it establishes an accepted baseline. But that can already be had much better and more concise by reading Bubba Boy's Rio guide or consulting Sperto's list of centro places.

    And there are a few things to consider:

    1. Attacking people on the price they paid for services will just discourage future honest post from them and others. Whatever they paid, they already paid. Nothing changes that at the time of posting. Adding insult to injury is not needed and not productive.

    2. The value of a session can be freely negotiated with freelancers. And there are many many considerations that go into this. Time constraints, competition from other males, visual appeal and age (of both participants in the transaction) , special needs, nervousness, monetary supply on the buyer side, amount of alcohol consumed prior, personal connection felt, lack or abundance of other options (again, on both sides) , language skills, flirting skills, perhaps even dancing skill, nervousness, whatever.

    3. Value is in the eye of the beholder. Look at the comparison to meals: I like eating at kilo places, and I also like eating at places like Marius. Both get you filled with calories, so why is Marius more than 10 times more expensive? Sometimes you are in the mood for a bit more ambiance or whatever, and you pay the higher price. It depends on the circumstances and what you would like out of them. (Fellow board member Christopherd and I once drove this to stupid extremes when we first mongered at VM, but then decided to each blow ~R300 on a long taxi ride and dinner at a very expensive seafood restaurant. I still laugh at how crazy that was, but what is done is done.)

    4. Paying a lower price for a given session does not make you a better man. Neither does paying a higher price. It's just what it is, and it all depends.

  3. #7555
    Quote Originally Posted by HelpRules  [View Original Post]
    What do you think is the cause. They had fast food back in the day. The beaches were there. Did they just quit walking.
    This is a trend everywhere in SA (save maybe in Argentina) and in Carribeans. In Colombia too, seems that many women are potbellied and with rather fat asses. Also keep in mind that the average height in Brasil is low (5'2" for women) , which plays a role in the BMI calculation. The roads are definitely not paved with tall and slender beauties in this part of the world.

  4. #7554
    Quote Originally Posted by Frenchieboy  [View Original Post]
    I am now in RIO and yesterday I have paid 400 reals for the night from 10 pm to 10 am (balcony's girl)...
    Christmas comes early for the Balcony girls.

  5. #7553

    The female will always choose who she want to be with period.

    Quote Originally Posted by Eric Cartman  [View Original Post]
    First off, props for the Jamaican patois. Bravo sir! ("What I care about what some other dude do." That's up there with I Love You Man's "I'ma slappin the bass, man! Slappin the bass!" ahahahah.) Well, for what it's worth, it annoys me for a few reasons. One, I am an INTJ (Wikipedia it) so loud, startling noises (like drunken Brazilian guys shouting) [CodeWord140] me off. Motorcycles and guys driving by with loud music too. That's life. Moving on.

    Two, they tend to monopolize the chicks for the duration of their stay. Even though they rarely ever bang the chicks. They grab some hot chicks, sit with them, grope them, buy them some choppes, and keep them out of circulation. So they limit my supply.

    Frankly both things would bug me even in my own country. It's not us-vs-them or locals-vs-gringos, it's a behavior thing.

    Am I happy for you that it doesn't bother you? Sure am. Wish I could be there with you. But I'm not. So there's my explanation. Unless your question was rhetorical.

    Honestly, I am not a big fan of the big-bunda loiras at Solarium. I like fit slim girls or fit big girls. Too many saggy bellies for me there. Which is great for you, as you love the place. So the Cartman is not all up in your biznez. Therefore more for you! Bravo sir. Head on down and knock yourself out. As the Cartman will be in warmer climes. With chicks who, to me, seem to have a better attitude as well.

    Peace out.
    Well the Kid Cisco have some rules too and that is the female will always choose who she wants to be with PERIOD! And I don't care WHERE in the world you go and I have been places around the world and lived around the world when I was station in the Navy I would go to night clubs, bars, malls you name it I seen NBA players and OBESE short business guys run up in chicks faces and watch females diss them and turn their backs and walk away from them ONLY to step up to a guy they find to be cute or fine. Just because some NBA player or NFL player make some millions or you have some geeky NERD with 300 reals and a free entrance pass in his pocket and he is boring as hell to be around and can't make them laugh without sounding corny or goofy guess who the chick is going to want to be around?

    If she have to be in a place 8-10 hours a day and have her bills paid up she is going to want to be around guys or a group of males she want to get a good LOUD laugh and talk and play around with rather than be with some geeky gringo that just want to ask do she take it up the ass? Or do she take a cum shot in the face LOL LOL

    You see I been going to Brazil since the late 70's and to other places around the world I stand 6'5 barefoot and I keep myself fit in shape and don't have some beer BELLY I am always groom to the "nines" so I just stand by myself and IF some chick is with some Brazilian dude or with some geeky NERD trust me! When I say this EACH time the " Kid Cisco" MAKES EYE CONTACT with that chick or any chick I am interested in and she makes EYE CONTACT with me and she likes what she sees trust me she will find a reason to get up and get away from that trick and make her way to me either she just tells the guy she sees a friend she have to say Hello, to or she have to go to the restroom or hell she just get up and step away and CHOOSE ME! To talk to I have had girls slip me their number when they give me a hung and kiss or the cheeks. These girls are smart and NOT shy when they see what they like.

    Hell, its NOT some we vs them with me I don't think of myself as some dumb ass goofy NERDY gringo that don't get ass BUT a few times a year when he is on vacation in some other country paying for ass. I get ass NO MATTER where I am. In the states (Vegas, NYC, LA) etc. Or in Spain DR Colombia Costa Rica etc. There are MANY chicks in Rio to pick from IF a chick makes EYE CONTACT with me and I smile or wink at her its up to HER to CHOOSE if she wants to come with me or not or stay there with the trick she is with. IF she wants to laugh for hours and drink his choopes he brought her guess what? That is up to her! He doesn't have a gun up beside her head forcing her to stay there and EVEN if he doesn't session with her that's up to HER to decide.

    I won't NEVER pour salt on another player game or in this case another trick game. And I will NEVER fight over some nameless faceless hooker I may NOT ever see again. Like I told me before IF I lived in Rio I may not EVER step foot in some Termas I have may 1st week full with dimes I met on Facebook RIGHT NOW I asked for a friend request they look and view my pictures of me looking fit and good and dress to the nines they like what they see they are always hitting me up trying to chat with me when they see me online.

    Look it's the same way in strip clubs these strippers can look and see a guy that NEVER go to strip clubs put once or twice a year (like THE KID CISCO) LOL and step to me pull up a chair and talk without asking for choopes to drink or asking me to take her to VIP. She knows she want to see me outside the club or not and either she slip me her number or she don't there will ALWAYS be fat OBESE lonely horny tricks that will spend their paycheck on her.

    Hell, IF I lived in Rio and Termas chicks always see me running up in the Termas handing over my 400-500reals and free entrance pass she will feel hell he either a loser or something is wrong with him, hell I work my ass off at times 10-12 hours a day and still find time to hit the gym go running and still go out on dates and have a main lady. Hell (THE DONALD) Trump runs hotels etc. He still found time to date and get married a few times LOL so there is NO excuse. Hell get a B-12 shot or drink a 5 hour drink or something LOL

    And as for BIG BUNDA blonds at Solarium I don't care for OBESE belly chicks either and (the Kid Cisco) sure as hell not going to fly 9 hours to pay to fuck them either and I DON'T LOVE the place I do like or will go there and check out the place you see (the kid Cisco) doesn't live in Rio and I have a limit amount of time to be in Rio so guess what? I am going to check out a few places most of the girls I met on facebook will see me after work so in the mornings I will work out and shop and see what I can pick up at the malls also I know a few guys that have retired and live in Rio and they NEVER I repeat NEVER go to the termas they told me when they 1st came to Rio they would run up in the termas all the time (that last for a short period of time weeks to a month or so) and than they are sitting up their play list LOL LOL

    To keep it 100% I wouldn't want to hang out or be around anyone that lived in a country 24/7 for years and ALL they knew or went to were termas / Spas and couldn't roll up in some nice night spots or clubs or lounges and pick up chicks or knew chicks they wasn't ex hookers etc. That just (the Kid Cisco) take because I know IF a dude came to my city I could take him to spots that he didn't have to pay by the hour to be with a chick. PUT let me say this I am not hating or putting down cats that do this some guys and I realize some guys have NEVER found their game. I know guys that played in the NFL and if it wasn't for their pockets they would NEVER get ass. LOL

    And IF LOUD music such as "Slappin the Bass" annoy you guess what? Going to Termas with LOUD music and lound laughing slapping ass Brazilians annoy you maybe going to Termas isn't for you maybe try hitting up lounges and meeting fly smart chicks on facebook those that have REAL jobs working at hotels, or working for the airlines or banks or going to school or working or owning a store in the mall those are some of the chicks I have met over the years get in shape post some pictures on face book of yourself and see how many chicks hit on you.

    Peace out.

    The Kid Cisco

  6. #7552
    Quote Originally Posted by Frenchieboy  [View Original Post]
    I am now in RIO and yesterday I have paid 400 reals for the night from 10 pm to 10 am (balcony's girl) , that was my third trip here in the last 2 years

    I am in BAlcony since the begining of this week and there are not many beautiful girls as usual but you are lucky like me you

    Can find some really nice girls (for me only 3or 4 per night) tonight my last night here and I will spend another night with the same girl for 400reals.

    What is different now in Balcony it's that they always want to give more drinks when yours is empty so drink slowly!

    Sorry for my bad english I will write a longer report when I will be back home
    Man you paid R$400 for a girl at Balconi. 10p-10a! Sad, Balconi gdp are not worth over R$150, and Brasileiros say that's too much.

  7. #7551
    What do you think is the cause. They had fast food back in the day. The beaches were there. Did they just quit walking.

  8. #7550
    Quote Originally Posted by Camelot13  [View Original Post]
    I pay 300. 500R for a session. That usually lasts about 2-3 hours. My typical is to go over there and find a girl or two and go to a motel for the remainder of the night. Services are all over the board but my needs are pretty vanilla so honestly I have never bothered to ask. I used to love Help and these places have a little of that feel left. Obviously, you are getting a pro but it is more of a GFE. I have dated in Brazil and I can do ok. So when sport fucking, I want a stunner.

    The quality of girl is closer to Barra Vips. The person I know who works on Hotside uses 4 year old photos. She gets good reviews on Gp Guia so no one seems to mind but the idea irks me.
    I am now in RIO and yesterday I have paid 400 reals for the night from 10 pm to 10 am (balcony's girl) , that was my third trip here in the last 2 years

    I am in BAlcony since the begining of this week and there are not many beautiful girls as usual but you are lucky like me you

    Can find some really nice girls (for me only 3or 4 per night) tonight my last night here and I will spend another night with the same girl for 400reals.

    What is different now in Balcony it's that they always want to give more drinks when yours is empty so drink slowly!

    Sorry for my bad english I will write a longer report when I will be back home

  9. #7549
    Quote Originally Posted by Prosal  [View Original Post]
    Right. Even gouverment admits that obesity touches more than 23% of the population.
    Been coming to Brazil for 7 years and I have definitely noticed it. You would almost never see anyone in a normal crowd that was heavy and now the whol e middle class is big.

  10. #7548
    Quote Originally Posted by Abzsafado  [View Original Post]
    They are definitely fatter, or in some cases more muscular. Even the government admits it.
    Right. Even gouverment admits that obesity touches more than 23% of the population.

  11. #7547
    They are definitely fatter, or in some cases more muscular. Even the government admits it.

    Quote Originally Posted by HelpRules  [View Original Post]
    For the guys that went to Brazil in the 80's or 90's- what do you think of all the talk of the girls in brazil getting fatter. Is it just guys getting spoiled or are they really alot fatter than they were back then.

  12. #7546
    Quote Originally Posted by Eric Cartman  [View Original Post]
    Hi. Thanks for posting. Can you provide more useful details about your recent visits to these places? Like: what were the asking prices for what time / service, what did you end up negotiating / paying, what services were provided, etc?

    Last time I was in barbarella a 7/10 chick wanted r500 as her ask and wouldn't budge even after I explained in live here and never pay more than r200.

    I think you can find hotter chicks on hotside for r300.

    So that would be great if you can post some details. Thanks
    I pay 300. 500R for a session. That usually lasts about 2-3 hours. My typical is to go over there and find a girl or two and go to a motel for the remainder of the night. Services are all over the board but my needs are pretty vanilla so honestly I have never bothered to ask. I used to love Help and these places have a little of that feel left. Obviously, you are getting a pro but it is more of a GFE. I have dated in Brazil and I can do ok. So when sport fucking, I want a stunner.

    The quality of girl is closer to Barra Vips. The person I know who works on Hotside uses 4 year old photos. She gets good reviews on Gp Guia so no one seems to mind but the idea irks me.

  13. #7545
    Quote Originally Posted by Bravo  [View Original Post]
    One of my friends in Rio swears that they shut down the kitchens in the Marriott and the Sofitel hotel because they were serving food that was past its expiration date and a number of tourists had complained about being sick after eating there.
    Reason is more greed and corruption than carelessness (deals passed between cuisine crews and suppliers). Brasilians greediness has no limits. They are the most untrustworthy people on the planet IMO.

    Holy shit. Poisonned food even in fives stars hotels. And not in just one, but in four. Rio, what a shithole.

  14. #7544
    Quote Originally Posted by Camelot13  [View Original Post]
    I have been reading the forum for a while and I am surprised that I am the only person who like Barbarella's, Ciccolini (?) or Erotika. I probably run around to these places less, only going once or twice a month but I love them. I go out with friends and after having a great night that ends a bit early, I then run through a couple of these places. Or when I have some gringos in town, we head over there. Even Barbarella's is suffering from a talent drought but it is rare that you don't see some real stunners.

    In a few more years the Copa scene will be dead at the rate it is declining, and then I will have to find a new place to live.
    Hi. Thanks for posting. Can you provide more useful details about your recent visits to these places? Like: what were the asking prices for what time / service, what did you end up negotiating / paying, what services were provided, etc?

    Last time I was in barbarella a 7/10 chick wanted r500 as her ask and wouldn't budge even after I explained in live here and never pay more than r200.

    I think you can find hotter chicks on hotside for r300.

    So that would be great if you can post some details. Thanks

  15. #7543
    Quote Originally Posted by Sperto  [View Original Post]
    The hotels were Marriot, Sofitel, Pestana and Rio Othon Palace.

    http://www.rac.com.br/noticias/nacio...eis-do-rj.html

    I shouldn't worry about eating out as long as it's popular places like Porcão, Aipo Aipim, Big Nectar, Kice Suco etc.
    This is a very common occurance in Rio. They bust places all the time, Suco Bars are probably the worst offenders. It is actually quite common for people in their houses to eat food that has gone past the expiry date, so I guess the same workers that toil at the local eateries don't think twice about it. As long as the food smells ok they will eat it, even if it is past its expiry date.

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